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12:00 AM
@Makyen I don't think I was aware of that rule, good to know
 
Ron
@halfer o/ Long time no see.
 
Heya
 
Ron
I am glad to see you back.
 
Cheers. I'm still actively editing, but since I do that too much anyway, I sometimes get a cv-pls break :-)
 
The timeline makes for interesting reading... (well not really)
 
Ron
12:04 AM
@halfer I managed to loose my reviewer badge after some account mix up. No biggie.
 
@Ron Looks like you have it back though :-)
 
Ron
@halfer So I do! One is missing. I was assured they will all be back after 24h.
 
@Ron I've never been much of a badge collector, tbh. I don't really know what I have.
But then I am not much of a rep collector either these days :=)
 
Ron
@Lankymart You should not be posting requests for questions you have a stake in.
 
Doesn't seem like an exact dupe to me
 
12:11 AM
@Ron "i'm sorry this is my first time in this chat"
@SamuelLiew maybe not, but its close enough...forget the fact its got no attempt from the OP at all (that alone should be enough).
 
Ron
@halfer Me neither. But I am aiming for the gold language badge only to be able to avoid trivial questions in an interview. Provided they agree to it.
 
@Ron "don't ask me any hard questions plz, see I got this exemption badge on Stack" :-)
 
Ron
@halfer Here is my gold badge, take me to your queen.
 
@Ron and @Lankymart requests to close as duplicate with the duplicate-target being one which is answered by the requester are acceptable. If we restricted that, then those people who are active in low-traffic tags would have serious problems, as they are often the ones who have answered the canonical questions. What is not permitted is if you have asked or answered the question on which you want people to act (or about edits which you have made).
 
@Ron "Ello Liz me love, 'ow ya doin'"
"Ur lookin' majestic today"
 
Ron
12:16 AM
@Makyen Noted.
 
Right, need to close the laptop for me. \o night all
 
@Makyen I know...just being facetious
 
Ron
o/
 
o/
@SamuelLiew so the duplicate aside, you telling me you see nothing wrong with that question?
 
@Lankymart I did not say anything other than it doesn't seem like a duplicate to me.
 
12:32 AM
@Makyen 1) I thought it was a bad question. 2) i CV's it and then, 3) someone said make my comment an answer and withdraw my CV. That's what I did.
 
@RiggsFolly That's fine. You're welcome to change your mind. When you do, you need to ping an RO and ask for the cv-pls request to be removed.
@Lankymart Please re-post this request either without the link to the proposed duplicate-target, or with that link pointing to the dup-target question, not an answer. A bug will result in the archiver script moving this request the next time the script is run, unless an RO notices it (unlikely) and manually prevents it. I'll fix the bug, but it's unlikely the update will be pushed out to the other ROs in time for this request. Thanks. Sorry for the inconvenience.
@Lankymart As an aside, personally, I usually look first for the dup-target to be an option in the close dialog. If not there, I then look for it in a "Possible duplicate of" comment on the question. Anyone visiting the question, when not clicking-through from the cv-pls, will be looking in those two places and can't see the info in the cv-pls. When I'm unable to VtC for a duplicate, I will manually create a "Possible duplicate of" comment. I'd suggest doing so in this type of situation.
 
@Makyen will do, obviously my original got removed when the question was closed.
@Makyen wish the scripts would work on ipad but Chrome for ipad doesn't support extensions.
gn all \o
 
12:50 AM
@Lankymart There's a bookmarklet which might be usable in that situation.
 
@Makyen Please remove my close pls
 
@RiggsFolly Thanks for asking. I assume you mean this one (the one I wrote my earlier message about). Correct? (i.e. not a different one).
 
@Makyen Yes, sorry it was a slightly facitious request, as that happened about 14 hours ago and is probably lost to most in the mists of time and space
 
@RiggsFolly np. All taken care of. I moved the request just after sending the first message with the link to the FAQ.
 
1:07 AM
@Makyen thanks for the link, gave it a try but doesn't seem to like it. Oh well.
 
 
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2:40 AM
Anyone else noticing SO responding very slowly atm?
 
@Mogsdad I know nuhzing. NUHZING!
 
2:56 AM
1 message moved from SOCVR Request Graveyard
@Makyen moved earlier due to a combination of two bugs in the archiver script, which will be fixed shortly.
 
@Mogsdad SO might be responding slowly, but we are closing quickly.
 
@Olaf Not fast enough! SO MUCH CRUD!
 
3:11 AM
@Mogsdad We are overrun!
 
 
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4:55 AM
The problem with the tag cleanup: if I see another link-only answer recommending Doxygen, I think I'm going to lose my mind.
 
 
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7:05 AM
... or flag as spam, also good
 
7:15 AM
 
7:53 AM
Morning \o
 
Was a bit shocked to click on a link and find my own dupe hammer contested ...
 
8:14 AM
oh hey look, Smokey is targeting users again
 
8:30 AM
How does 'bash does not run in a Windows CMD console?' get 49 upvotes anyway? It's, well, 'Why does my GM fuel pump not fit my Ford?'
 
@MartinJames 48 upvotes now :) and protected
(also closed as "software recommendation")
 
8:44 AM
There is a link-only answer. Recently it went through a review ― four delete-recommendations, one ok. And that's all. Review completed. The answer remains. Am I missing something?
 
weird
 
one more vote for me?
 
@techraf I think there is some rule that certain post (accepted, upvoted) if deleted from review they need to wait for confirmation by mod. Hence a mod flag is raised... and mod cast the final decision if to really delete.
no clue if this is the case, but it's old with 1 upvote
check this for example meta.askubuntu.com/a/17509/529464 the first meta I could find, probably there is a better one some where...
 
9:15 AM
> Task accumulates 6 RecommendDelete + Delete reviews.
Outcome: mark flags "helpful". If the post scores > 0 then raise DisputedLowQuality mod flag, else just delete post (current behavior).
 
9:27 AM
@techraf suggested duplicate also this is same question on meta meta.stackoverflow.com/q/299373/5292302, however probably it's best to point to the one I suggested
 
10:02 AM
And we have a meta effect + waste of close votes. The question had already a negative score, I thought if the answer gets deleted which it should, roomba would do the rest.
 
 
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11:44 AM
Who decided it was a good idea to localize Excel macro commands? Specially if the translation isn't intuitive, at all ....
 
the same guys who renamed Internet Explorer so that they could renew ... sales?
 
That is probably right ...
 
@rene Oh god this
Booo that person
 
12:32 PM
@Jean-FrançoisCorbett It has 668 upvotes. Not sure how we can get rid of it:(
 
Ron
o/
 
Ron
@MartinJames Using wide chars?
 
@Ron 'Pull in to the side of the road and await mod inspection' :)
 
@MartinJames With 669 downvotes? :-p
costs nothing... no daily cap on votes
 
12:42 PM
@Jean-FrançoisCorbett OK, I already pitched in with my 0.00149 cents' worth.
 
Ron
o/
 
1:03 PM
:D
 
Dupebrus
 
Zoe
Beaten by 5 seconds :D
 
I figured I'd continue the trend
Just needs 1 more delete vote
 
Zoe
Some of these burn fast
 
Do we have a lurking instance of @WaiHaLee around here ?:)
 
1:05 PM
@Zoe ♫ We don't need no water let the <....> burn! ♫
 
@kayess :)
 
@WaiHaLee \o
 
Zoe
@Cerbrus :D
 
A singing wolf... where do we go from here
 
1:08 PM
A singing wolf licking flowers :P
3
 
Eager to wait for the next episode of SOCVR tale by our gunman
And now ~30% of the starboard is owned by teh wolfie
 
rofl
 
Oh, owned, not filled :P
 
Zoe
lol
 
Looking for Natty's comment template.
 
1:52 PM
@kayess Full moon lasts three days for wolf shifters.
 
@MartinJames how do you shift a wolf ? :x
 
@kayess A rare steak usually does it.
 
hmm
 
@MartinJames I can confirm
 
@Cerbrus lol
 
Zoe
2:05 PM
And now I want steak xD
 
Ron
2:16 PM
Eeer, where / what are the notifications in online Google calendar?
I searched everywhere but didn't get much. Any help is greatly appreciated.
 
@Ron ?
VTC, unclear.
 
Ron
Haha, true.
I should fallback to my trusty Xiaomi Calendar app.
 
shouldn't it not do that twice
 
2:33 PM
The question was edited
So re-detected?
 
Zoe
Probably
 
2:52 PM
I'm not an android expert
 
Zoe
yeah
 
Ok thanks @Zoe
 
3:09 PM
^(calling a function while passing it as argument)
 
> I have head that stackoverflow is a code writing service.
 
3:32 PM
@kayess lol
 
I used to have head. Then I took a code writing service in the knee.
 
lol
 
3:51 PM
@Cerbrus That's not a typo; OP didn't know how to use that feature of the language, but he wrote what he wrote intentionally
but I'm sure it's a dupe
 
Either way, it should just be closed and deleted.
 
I agree, but only because it is not structured well for searching as a dupe signpost
(we should use the right reasons for things)
 
Meh, something about end and means
But yea, you're right
 
@halfer yeah I did not get the notification, but I saw it anyway and just choose to ignore ;)
 
4:15 PM
@Jean-FrançoisCorbett Requests for down-votes are not permitted.
Please see #10 in the FAQ.
 
I'm out of close votes :(
 
Ron
@Makyen For what it's worth, the bookmarklet rocks.
 
@Ron Thanks. I'm glad you like it & it's helpful.
 
Ron
4:31 PM
Any middle earth Europeans in here? Need some first hand salary info in a spoon feed me manner.
 
middle earth vertically?
 
Ron
@kayess You are a middle earth European. I know for example in your realm the salary of a C++ developer is 2500€ net / month. Do you happen to know what's the situation like in the Czech Republic?
 
@Ron nope, don't have any contacts there. Only heard about a SAP coder guy making around 5000 eur/mo there
 
Ron
Those SAP people are well paid all over the world.
I think that 3K net per month might be a bit of a stretch for Prague.
 
Ron
4:59 PM
Worst salary negotiation ever...
@Nkosi The cold impairs my judgment eh? ;)
 
@Machavity why
How's that a rec-tool?
 
@JohnDvorak Hmm, you're right. More Gen Computing
 
same for #2 - too broad
How are you finding these? ?
 
@JohnDvorak Yes
It's a tag with a lot of OT questions, but still some good questions
 
5:24 PM
@Ron I don't know why. 'Industry standard knowledge' is that when a client says 'we are introducing SAP, there will be a couple days intro/training when service might be delayed', it means they are going to be knackered for two weeks.
In the two decades I've been using our village club, it's only ever run out of beer once - the brewery installed SAP.
 
Ron
@MartinJames Haha, nice one.
 
5:44 PM
hi \o
 
Ron
6:59 PM
Was given a task by a would-be employer. Not impressed. Grumpy actually.
Who dreams up this modern day slavery?
 
slavers
 
@Ron Have Stack Overflow solve it for you. Oh, wait...
 
Ron
Haha.
The task will probably take me 2-3 days to finish. That's 2-3 days of pro bono work.
 
@Ron Is it make-work, or something that is actually of benefit to the company?
 
Ron
@Makyen The latter it seems to me.
Not impressed at all.
 
7:05 PM
@Ron Then, if it's legal for them to ask you to do it will depend on the jurisdiction. In some jurisdictions, that's considered to establish the employer-employee relationship and must be compensated, at least to the level of paying minimum wage.
 
Ron
@Makyen Indeed so. We'll see how it goes. I am currently leaning towards playing games in the next few days.
 
@Ron You could ask on Law.
 
Ron
@Makyen Thanks, will probably opt for another employer.
 
@Ron If you want the job, do the work, but say that you have 'not full tested it' and 'there may be serious bugs lurking because you have not had sufficient system testing'. Subtly imply that, even though you can demostrate the code working and so your suitability for employment, using it directly in it's current form would likely destroy their entire database without warning.
 
Ron
@MartinJames Haha, nice one. I am currently writing the email with the "Unfortunately..." wording in it.
 
7:18 PM
@Ron lol
 
Unfortunately your task was too easy for me, I had it finished on my commute home
 
Ron
Sent.
Haha.
 
@rene 'Unfortunately, though I completed your task, I have just received a firm offer from your major competitor, and sent them the code as a free demo of my skills'
3
 
Ron
If only it weren't for those pesky legal lasers from outter space.
makes a tin foil helmet
During the interview all I could think of was how good my latest answer was doing on SO.
2
 
7:56 PM
@TylerH the same
 
8:50 PM
@Jean-FrançoisFabre ugh, that Java question has 450 linked questions
so we cannot delete it
 
9:34 PM
Isn't this question (NATO) a bit broad?
 
@JohnDvorak It's got a good answer, but marked as "Too old to migrate". Can a mod not migrate that?
 
@honk I would say a lot broad
 
@Steve OK, thanks!
 
10:02 PM
 
10:12 PM
Good night o/
 
10:23 PM
Hey guys, I need some advice, this question was created 5 hours ago, this question popped up a few minutes ago. They seem to be the same question by different users, however the first has no answer so I can't flag as duplicate. I flagged for moderator attention regarding the accounts.
Is there something else I can do for these questions?
 
@milo526 We don't moderate users in here. And the questions were asked by two separate users. So if you suspect sock puppetry then mod flags are the way to go.
 
10:38 PM
@milo526 I usually leave a comment on both questions informing each OP about the other question and asking if it's a group project, a class assignment, etc. While it might be the same user, there are a number of situations where multiple people ask questions with near-identical code/text. I've encountered times when it's been a group working on an open-source project, a project for a company, a school project, a homework assignment, and, of course, the same user.
My preference is to assume good faith and ask the OPs what's going on. When it's not the same user, the OPs have usually ended up leaving a single question active. However, sometimes it just feels like the same user. If it's the same user, then the only thing you can do is flag, as previously mentioned.
 

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