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12:27 AM
Hi all! o/
 
12:46 AM
@mason Please don't use [tag:dv-pls]. That tag is ambiguous as to if you are requesting us to look at the question with respect to delete-votes (fine) or down-votes (not permitted). While we assume that you mean delete-vote, some random person reading the transcript won't necessarily understand that. Please use any of [tag:del-pls], [tag:delv-pls], or [tag:delete-pls].
 
 
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3:20 AM
@Makyen Eh, if someone wants to get upset because I abbreviated to dv-pls instead of del-pls, that's their business.
 
3:38 AM
@mason Nothing to get upset about. Makyen is just pointing out that it (DV) can be easily mistaken as asking for downvotes (which is forbidden on SO), and don't want you (and by extension this room because you are a participant here) to get in trouble with the mods.
just want to avoid misunderstandings here
> "some random person reading the transcript won't necessarily understand that"
 
4:07 AM
@SamuelLiew Yes, I understand exactly why Makyen said that. No, I am not upset. I do however disagree with the reasoning behind the request and don't intend to honor it. If someone is feeling extra sensitive and wants to be offended, they can go ahead and be offended. In my experience, people that unreasonable are never going to be satisfied anyways and will always look for something to complain about. So again, that's their business.
:41056455 I'll keep on putting dv-pls because I'm not going to bother looking up what the "accepted" acronym is. And if I feel something is important enough to warrant me coming here to ask for a deletion, then speed is important to me.
 
@mason are you unwilling to make a change that doesn't cost you in any way just because only unreasonable people benefit from it directly? Well, we have to interact with those unreasonable people ourselves, not you.
Don't worry about looking it up. Just tell us what level of violence you need from us in order to remember properly ;-)
 
@JohnDvorak I'm unwilling to make a change because dv-pls is faster, because I'm not going to remember that people prefer something else, and I'm not going to bother looking up what the accepted acronym is.
 
"u" is also faster than "you". And seriously angers everyone.
 
New announcement: dv-pls means "delete vote please" unless otherwise indicated by the person asking for it. That is all. You may now resume your regularly scheduled activities.
Glad we could clear that one up!
Whatever happened to "assume good intentions"? When did Stack Overflow devolve to the point where we now assume bad intentions if someone puts dv-pls?
 
@mason A significant portion of the reasons for the rules we have is to reduce the potential for negative situations/discussions on Meta. This is a very minor change on your side. I'm really not understanding why it's an issue for you to type del-pls instead of dv-pls.
 
4:16 AM
@Makyen I could say it wastes time, or that I won't remember. And both are honestly true. The biggest reason though is that I think it's just plain stupid to have to go out of my way to make sure that some potential random person reading this later doesn't think that I asked for something that's not allowed, when the far more reasonable conclusion is that I'm asking for a downvote.
 
@mason You might want to edit, as I believe you said something opposite to what you intended.
 
Did he?
 
@Makyen What's the worst that's going to happen? Someone goes to Meta, says "mason said dv-please, I think he meant downvote" and then I'll say "Nope, I meant downvote". Honestly, I can see the potential for just as much negative attention coming from someone asking me to delete their post as downvote it.
@Makyen Which part? I re-read, looks good to me. But sometimes things sound better in my head and come out wrong once I get to typin'.
 
@mason In both of your prior two messages (now 2nd & 3rd) you say "downvote" where I understood your argument to be "deletevote"
 
oh.. right
 
4:21 AM
Agh, you're right! Thanks.
See, even when I spell out the words, it's ambiguous as to what I mean!
 
From now on we'll just assume you mean "downvote" even when you say "deletevote" or "delv"
 
It doesn't seem to want to let me edit now. How long do you get to edit your post in chat?
 
@mason Ironically, I was thinking that it was strengthening our side of the discussion. I guess it all depends on your point of view. :-)
@mason 2 minutes.
 
Is that dyslexia? Or something else? It seems to happen to me quite a lot.
 
I think it's universal
 
4:25 AM
I feel like I'm extra bad at it.
 
@mason It's not what I understand dyslexia to be defined as. As John said, it's quite common. I know I do it quite a bit & only recover because I tend to re-read what I write (often multiple times), trying to find things like that.
Even then, I still end up with similar mistakes on a regular basis.
 
I appreciate your guys' statements, but I just don't feel like it's worth it to bend over backwards to make it clear that I meant delete vote when asking for downvotes isn't allowed, and we have a policy of "assume good intentions".
 
What I'm saying is that calling it "bend over backwards" is highly inaccurate
 
Not to me. Because I'm not going to remember this. So assuming I remember it, I now have to go look up what the accepted acronym. All for something that I think is completely unnecessary in the first place. That to me is bending over backwards.
 
@mason If this was something that was a lot of effort, I might be arguing your side of it. To me, it seems a trivial amount of effort to reduce the potential for negative consequences.
 
4:31 AM
What negative consequences are going to happen?
 
Us shouting at you :P
 
Woah! No need to be upset!
Really, I don't mind being shouted at over a computer. So long as it's not all-caps.
What other negative consequences?
 
ALL CAPS I CAN DO
 
@mason Indeterminate. Our intent is to reduce the potential for us having to spend time an effort dealing with people who are upset, and/or explaining things on meta, etc.
 
Someone can just as easily be upset that I asked for a delete vote. If someone is that unreasonable, then they're going to find a way to be upset.
 
4:35 AM
You did it again
 
@mason As to direct negative consequences, I haven't decided how big of an issue I consider this to be, nor have any of the other ROs weighed-in.
@mason From a request-management POV, it's relatively easy to adjust the scripts to interpret a dv-pls as del-pls (and probably should have already been done; actually, one script already did, and I already made the change in the other, but haven't pushed it out yet).
 
How big of an issue?
You think this is a big issue?
 
@mason I really didn't.
 
I don't either
 
But you're implying that some kind of judgement is going to be passed which is to have negative consequences to me. I don't really pay attention to chat politics or whatever you want to call it. But I'm to understand that such judgement can include banning me from this room?
 
4:43 AM
@mason I'm unsure. The thinking on the issue includes things from before my time. However, there are multiple areas where concerted effort is put into reducing the possibility of things blowing up on Meta. I really don't know what the other ROs are going to think.
 
@Makyen I think the room's fear of meta is mostly unjustified
 
Seems like a giant waste of time to even bring up with them. We have a policy of assume good intentions, one can easily tell from context that I'm asking for delete votes. The goal of this room is to quickly and efficiently remove bad content from this site. Seems like having any sort of discussion about dv-pls, del-pls etc will just be a distraction from our common goal.
 
@mason I'm really not saying that.
@JohnDvorak I can understand the desire to avoid it. I also desire to do so. However, I don't have the history of having already been on the receiving end of such an occurrence. Thus, part of my desire to avoid it is learned from having gone back a read what happened, but not lived though the negative experience.
 
@Makyen This reminds me of a certain experiment involving a cage with monkeys, a ladder with a banana and a water bottle
 
Actually, I think in a way it'd be positive if someone were to mistake it for a request for downvote and raise the issue on meta. They'd very quickly encounter a mass of people with super reasonable explanations of how we should assume good intentions. They'd walk away far more knowledgeable than they came!
Honestly, if someone does come along and complain in here, that's what you'd tell them as the RO, right?
 
4:53 AM
@mason I, also, believe it's a distraction. Part of the desire is reduce the possibility of having to spend time discussing it. Can you just try to remember to use del-pls instead of dv-pls?
 
Fine. I'll give in. But only because I'd rather not have this same conversation with the next guy that comes along wanting me to not use dv-pls because of the potential that someone might mistake it. It's breaking my heart though.
 
@mason I'd probably explain that it was likely intended as a request for evaluating the question for delete-votes. That any confusion with asking for down-votes was unfortunate, unintended and that we would try to do better in the future.
@mason Thank you.
 
That's a mistake. Just tell them "assume good intentions" in the future. We haven't done anything wrong.
 
@Makyen Then I'd prefer if you didn't. That way we won't learn what meta thinks.
 
@JohnDvorak I'm confused. You'd prefer if he didn't what?
 
4:58 AM
@JohnDvorak If you choose, you can always preemptively make a post on Meta to get an idea for how people feel. However, doing so would likely be devoid of the emotional stress that would heat up both sides.
 
Hmm. Well if you do, feel free to ping me so I can weigh in.
 
@Makyen I'm confused. Are you saying that emotional stress on both sides is a good thing?
 
I think he's saying we should have a Meta post preemptively, so we can have a discussion devoid of emotional reactions.
 
@JohnDvorak No, having the conversation emotionally charged is generally a bad thing. Not having the emotions would normally result in less extreme positions and tend to also reduce the size of the participant pool.
@mason While it's certainly a possibility, I'm not advocating for it. I definitely have no plans to start one, and would generally prefer not to have to spend the time on it.
 
I've noticed a trend with you: you raise some hypothetical eventuality that may not come to pass and that you don't foresee as likely or necessary.
Why worry about it? We can spend all day worrying about potential possible negative consequences. Someone could mistake cv-pls as something other than "close vote please"! But it's not worth worrying about or discussing.
 
5:08 AM
^ also SD reported
 
@SurajRao How would you narrow it down?
 
@mason Hmmm... An interesting trend. The part wrt. SOCVR and potential issues on Meta is a recurring theme for the room, which I've picked up from other past discussions in the room, room meetings, etc. I'm unsure if the generalized issue you mention extends beyond that for me personally. I'll consider it.
 
Not trying to pick at you. But at the same time, a little don't worry, be happy might save you some personal stress. Or at least save you time!
 
@mason Part of my task as an RO is to try to steer things in a direction which reduces the possibility of things occurring such that they become issues which blow up into larger Meta discussions. So, I'm supposed to keep that consideration on my mind.
@mason I will try to take that to heart. :-)
 
for me, I'd be glad to hear the wind of change blowing strong :P
(minus the killing part, of course)
 
@SurajRao that sounds like a great base for an answer. Go for it dawg.
 
Is SO changing the CV dialog? I went to CV a question, and the dialog was different (I only saw no "off-topic because..." and instead "should be closed" and some positions were different), but it disappeared automatically and when I opened the dialog again, it was normal
 
@JohnDvorak huh found a possible dupe stackoverflow.com/questions/22868897/…
 
5:37 AM
@Justin you misclicked the flag dialog
 
@JohnDvorak Ahh, thank you
 
 
1 hour later…
7:16 AM
any C#/linq experts?
 
sure some exist
 
curious pattern with a user . stackoverflow.com/questions/48445216/… is a copy paste or legit?
same as older answer including comments but for a line.. dont have enough knowledge in domain to judge though
 
7:36 AM
@SurajRao well, it certainly started as a copy-paste but that Key attribute is the main difference. Both annotations in both answers are not needed as the naming of the property matches the convention. None of those answers adds value.
so not flaggable for plagiarism if that is what you ask
 
yeah.. thats what I wanted to know..
thanks
 
Morning \o
I had a dream... that @SurajRao was actually @BhargavRao in disguise
Weird dreams eh...
 
 
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9:09 AM
@RiggsFolly that sounds like an answer not like a close reason? Isn't there a dupe?
 
9:29 AM
@rene Hi rene I cannot find anything obvious
@rene I suppose I could make an answer out of my comment, but the question does not seem to have a great deal of value
 
I find project requirement dump questions more off-topic than HW dumps
 
@RiggsFolly OK, I'm only responding because the close reason seems a bit odd, that's all.
 
@rene No problem, I dont mind being picked up when it looks like I have done something wrong
 
 
1 hour later…
10:40 AM
I just came across [tag:laravel-testing] which to me seems like a really useless tag. Either it is completely superflous due too the question being tagged [tag:phpunit] or [tag:unit-testing] and a [tag:laravel] or laravel specific version tag. Or in the worse case it is used instead of those tags which will actively harm its visibility. Is there anything useful we can do for such a small tag (32 questions in 2 years)

Burination seems overkill and will not succeed since it fails at least 3/4 of the requirements for burination
 
10:56 AM
@milo526 if you can find other php/laravel users that agree you can do the re-tag on your own as you have full privileges. I'm not familiar with those tags so can't advice on if you're correct or not. If burnination is too far off you can always ask for a tag-cleanup on meta as that doesn't have criteria. The result of the clean-up can be a burnination.
 
11:20 AM
^ more likely a rant than a question
 
11:37 AM
 
Ron
12:03 PM
Morning.
Sort of.
 
12:22 PM
o/
 
Ron
12:56 PM
How does the $25/hour sound for a remote job?
For a development including some nasty native languages.
I feel one could ask for more.
 
how nasty?
 
Ron
C++ nasty.
 
definitely ask for more
 
Ron
Blaast, now you tell me ;)
Kidding, appreciate it.
 
1:28 PM
Is this question more appropriate to Webmaster?
nvm I made a custom flag.
 
One more example... put on hold 3 hours ago -- answered 1 hour ago. How is this possible?
ok... 4 hours grace period
 
dur
2:09 PM
@RiggsFolly IMO: If you wrote an answer, you should retract your close vote and ask a room owner to delete your cv-pls.
 
2:27 PM
Is this a library (OSR) question?
 
2:46 PM
@FrankerZ no, but it is not forbidden to offer an alternative if it exists.
 
@rene So that question is perfectly on-topic? Seems like the kind of question that would get spammy answers.
 
@FrankerZ it is not awesome question but I see no reason to declare it off-topic
 
dur
@rene If I only look at the question, I would say no research effort and maybe too broad. But OP answered with a "good" self-answer, so there was enough research effort.
 
3:22 PM
blep
 
@Compass I'm trying to understand what blep is. Is it like, you threw up a little in your mouth?
 
No
reddit.com/r/blep/
 
all hope for humanity is lost
 
did you just check the CVQ?
 
[facepalm]
 
3:31 PM
I somehow always misread that to [facenapalm] :x
 
3:45 PM
@Pshemo Mod ate it
@Pshemo I love how the help text for the question was included as well in the copy/paste: Please be sure to answer the question. Provide details and share your research!
wow, 7 upvotes on that answer
 
can someone reject the edit here
 
I'm confused guys. This question had an edit that was approved by someone with 85k rep. Even his edit was a horrible one. The question was intended for C# (As far as I can tell). I feel like I should roll this back, but IDK.
 
@FrankerZ maybe he wanted to approve that tag edit but had to make significant changes?
 
You can approve the tag change, without making an edit.
 
I go meh
 
3:59 PM
@FrankerZ I support it. I'd roll back to rev. 1, the edits are irrelevant, resp. harmful like the change of language.
 
And no where in his code does he mention c++. The only c++ mention was by Dmitry, and regardless it shouldn't have had c# removed.
 
Someone thought it was a C++ question because the word "vector" was stated. :|
Which is dubious indeed.
 
the answer is in C# anyway
 
@FrankerZ @E_net4 "vector" was used alternatively to "array", e.g. in old C books. The code is clearly not C++, but (supposedly as I'm no expert) C# and OP was clear in his original title.
 
Edited, though the title could be better
 
4:04 PM
@Olaf Yeah, the one thing I would worry about the most here is the answerer ignoring the fact that the question was mistagged.
 
@E_net4 If it was me, I'd kill that whole question. It is too broad/POB and the answers are not really good. Additionally the answerers are both involved in the fishy edits.
 
Would y'all find this one too broad? It reads pretty much like a "here's some code, what is it doing under the sheets" assignment. stackoverflow.com/q/48566871/1233251
 
@E_net4 If you want to post a cv-pls, please use the correct form. (and yes, it is too broad.) Looks like a homework dum[pb] to me.
 
@Olaf I didn't do that because I wasn't sure enough.
 
4:11 PM
@E_net4 Yes I think that is too broad
 
@FrankerZ now there is a rollback of my edit
 
Yeah, noticed that
I don't agree though with your edit. He mentions vector, and a lot of the answers directly relate to him mentioning vector. Even though his code may mean something different, by removing the vector mention, it invalidates (Or at least makes them more confusing) some of the answers.
 
@E_net4 "…some questions" is always a very good indicator, expecially with a bullet list. "explain this code" style questions are another one.
 
This is not going well.
 
4:19 PM
Vector is only mentioned as a variable name
not as an object type
 
Yep
Anyhow, I'm moving on
 
idk, it's iffy. I'd be more inclined to leave it alone, and ask the OP to clarify, but frankly I don't think he's coming back anytime soon
 
4:55 PM
Any mods in the room? I have a tag issue I need some help with
 
@Nkosi Why not just ask?
 
ask what?
my issue?
wasn't sure if I could ask in the room without getting roasted. lol :)
 
@Nkosi I don't know of any rules prohibiting talking about tags
 
Unless it's . </jk>
 
@Machavity luckily I already have a meta going meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/362812/…
 
5:06 PM
@Nkosi I hammered it open but can't guarantee it will stay that way
 
Thanks. We'll see how it goes.
been tackling this whole week and was trying to get it out of the way
 
Ron
Best Thursday ever. Everything is coming up Ron. Carry on.
 
@Ron Soak it in while you can. Appreciate small mercies. lol
 
rene has a gold badge in support. Oh the irony...
 
Ron
@Nkosi Will do. Thanks.
The pre SSD era was truly dark ages...
 
5:16 PM
@Ron You mean the times we didn't need that fast storage because the programs weer not some GiB large for a simple IDE?
I even remember times you turned on the computer and it was ready to be used <<1sec afterwards.
 
@KevinWorkman Ok... so what kind of votes do you want?
 
Ron
@KevinWorkman There is a blueprint that should be followed when casting a request. In your case this seems as a Duplicate.
 
@KevinWorkman CV as dupe is problematic for questions otherwise off-topic, because the original question can't be closed if referencesd as dupe. Better close both for the off-topic reason (too broad/no mcve for those ones).
 
@Olaf Reference?
I don't think that's the case
 
@Olaf Yes, but loading a game from a cassette tape took 20 minutes, (unless there was a read error after 19).
 
5:25 PM
@MartinJames Why that? It just asks how to teach a computer how to debug a program. … ;-)
 
Ron
@MartinJames Aah the bad old days. I remember there was a screw that could be adjusted in C64 cassette unit.
 
@JohnDvorak Hmm, or was it for deleteion? Anyway, we can't get rid of the original sh** in this case.
 
it was for deletion
 
@Olaf I just put in 'Too broad'. Trying to explain how implausible the requirement was would take too long:(
@Ron I had a set of refernce tapes to set azimuth. Unfortunately, the games tapes were nearly always recorded with incorrect settings:(
 
@MartinJames Not with the fast loader a school friend of mine developed (well, he used some magazine code as basis). But I thought ron meant floppies and harddrives. My Amstrad CPC was ready before I could take a sip of coffee after power on (and I needed a lot of coffee these days)
 
Ron
5:30 PM
@MartinJames The code might or might not load. Epic times.
 
@MartinJames They should start understanding how to debug themselves and analyse this. But, hey, why go the hard way if you have machine learning bullsh** bingo.
 
Letting robots debug themselves sounds risky
 
@JohnDvorak Nah, it is not as if the stock markets are run by robots since years already. Oh, wait …
 
@Olaf MS don't know how Windows 10 works, so some hacked-together instruction-monitor etc. is not goig to help any.
 
Anyway, I'll be shopping with my non-autonomous car. see you later.
 
Ron
5:33 PM
@JohnDvorak Robots are not the problem. AI is.
Or rather will be.
 
@MartinJames You're a pessimist ;-)
 
Ron
@JohnDvorak Do you happen to know the range of the developers salaries in Prague btw?
 
@Ron You don't trust Giscard and Daneel Olivaw?
 
@Ron 7-15 Urquells/hr.
 
Ron
@MartinJames What's that in Vespene gas?
 
5:38 PM
@Ron I don't have the exchange rate for other currencies:)
 
5:52 PM
@rene tag has been dealt with. Thank you for your assistance.
 
6:08 PM
Can I get an opinion on a question? I wrote up an answer to this poorly written question, posted it, then thought maybe it was a bad question that I shouldn't answer after all.
 
@AndrewMyers Can you improve the question at all without deviating from OP's intent?
 
@FrankerZ I believe the final line of the question is the actual question. I would trim it down to just that, and rewrite it to mention Bootstrap navbar and scrollspy.
 
@AndrewMyers So turn it into a good question. Then you can answer it without worry =) And then we have both a good question, and a good answer.
 
@FrankerZ Yeah, that sounds reasonable.
 
 
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7:42 PM
@SotiriosDelimanolis lol also a mess just to cv..
 
8:03 PM
hi o/
 
hello
 
o/
 
o/ ^-^
 
oh, hey Andrew. Long time no see!
 
yes, been a while (: good to see you gunr
things have gotten so sophisticated here, i don't quite know what's going on lol
 
will have to lurk more
 
well, we're still closing stuff, so I guess that hasn't changed.
 
hahaha
 
Wow Andrew in chat, you did some nice work creating this closing machine :)
 
oh, i really did not do any of what's here today haha
i'll claim credit for creating the room though (:
 
8:09 PM
!!/blame
 
@FrankerZ It's Andrew Cheong's fault.
10
 
rofl
 
All yours, however Rene rules now :D
 
boom. victory achieved. we're done here.
smokey finally figured out "context"
 
8:10 PM
It's gaining sentience. Kill it before it takes over all humanity.
 
honestly, rene has always ruled
 
I might have the ability to run the !!/kill command, but I don't want to mess things up
 
he was just nice enough to keep me on the board of directors (:
 
sometimes rene just wants to fire all of us
 
8:16 PM
@AndrewCheong Wait, did Kyll change his name again? I can never remember who the ROs are anymore
 
@Machavity That joke must be a mess for him to understand....
 
lol
now I am so confused. lol
@Machavity just threw a wrench into the works
 
@Nkosi "kyll" was the original name of PaulStenne. He recently changed his avatar back to the Spearrel.
he's also extremely french, and it's great to listen to while gaming
 
yeah that much I remember. I got thrown off by that last statement thinking that he changed his name again.
 
8:24 PM
plop
 
@gunr2171 "kyll" was the original name of PaulStenne - And I thought it was the other way round ;)
 
^ title should be "where in the world is this code error"
 
(c) Broderbünd software
 
thank you rabaxa for creating a library that handles the dirty work for me =w=
 
isn't that the job of like, every library?
 
8:31 PM
yes
i couldnt find one for angular specifically so i had to go native
 
how native? rocks and sticks?
 
javascript native =w=
 
ah, so essentially one step up from rocks and sticks.
 
the github page lists it as a ~minimalist~ library
whatever strikethrough is
 
@PetterFriberg i didn't even realize there was a joke
 
8:34 PM
@AndrewCheong just for info another spin-off effect from this room is SOBotics, if people learn to know how much stuff you are TO blame for getting closed/deleted... :). Nice work, SE should send you some swag!
@AndrewCheong now you know @Mac in every sentence there is joke
 
ooo SOBotics is cool and a nice name
yes i remember SmokeDetector first being created when i was around still
 
Rene did not allow us to run bots here :)
 
Well you know Dutch...
 
Well, we do allow bots here, they just need permission. We don't want bots to overpower humans in the transcript
 
8:41 PM
thonk
 
Yeah just kidding to much stuff on SO that needs moderation.. so better to move to other room
 
@gunr2171 I mean SmokeDetector is already on a rampage. We don't want a bot army now, do we?
 
as long as I have the killswitch then we're fine
 
as long as your not at a meeting
 
then I can say "killswitch: engage". and a sick guitar solo will start
@PetterFriberg right now, nope
 
8:45 PM
I love that site, I have it bookmarked*
 
oh....the archive script moves responses to smokey reports
TIL....
 
@PetterFriberg You're part of the problem then :P
 
for the record, I don't mind renewing. $15 a year (or whatever it is) isn't a problem for me
 
Oh crap Gunr open a donate page we need that info
 
just looked it up, $12.99 a year. It's (.xyz) actually the cheapest domain I own.
 
8:51 PM
@PetterFriberg GoFundMe: Help gunr stay in meetings longer
 
nnnnnnnnnnnooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
 
Oh yeah, keep gunr away from the kill switch
 
^ This is a valid closure, right?
 
To me yes
 
@FrankerZ dunno, but voted to close anyway :)
(the other question doesn't have any upvoted answer so no duplicate voting)
 
9:00 PM
Yeah, that's what I was originally trying to do
 
Sorry, this is a post on another site, but is this enough to flag (end of the post)?
 
@gunr2171 I'd just edit the strong word out for one less... strong
 
I'll take out the <strong>...</strong>, thanks
ah, the wonders of submitting a suggested edit. It's been a long time since I've done that.
 
9:37 PM
Hi all! o/
 
10:05 PM
dang, found the elegant System.DirectoryServices.AccountManagement namespace for dealing with Active Directory. Can't use it because I'm not a Domain Admin in AD T_T
 
:)
Don't you just hate it when that happens
If you have an account it shouldn't stop you from querying it though
I remember the first time I discovered that namespace. :) wicked grin
It eventually became the hammer to my auth nail for custom inhouse intranet apps
I hounded IT on till they created an account I can use (with limited privileges of course). lol, but those were the days. lol
 
well I think the account needs read access to the Computers and Users OU
and maybe it doesn't have that
I don't really know anything about AD so it's a bit of a mountain for me to climb atm
 
no worries there are tonnes of examples online. That is how I learned about it. that and a lot of trial and error. locked out my account a few times. lol
 
@Nkosi we actually have some working examples here but they use httpcontext instead
 
I learned most of it here on SO
my first Q on SO was on that same namespace. lol
 
10:24 PM
oh nice
Windows 10 update breaking stuff, naturally X-D
 
lol
 
\o miaow all
 
o/
 
good night \o
 
10:43 PM
Do folks think this is too broad? I can see how it would be useful: stackoverflow.com/questions/48530338/…
Or POB, I guess
 
looks like off topic request for resource to me
 
@halfer External resource request.
 
@Olaf Fair enough, thanks both
 
11:43 PM
Honestly this guy does my head in, has vbscript gold badge but never uses it unless its to open up a question that has already been closed so they can make a pointless post. I can no longer vote to close this question because they just come along and reopen it. No effort shown, absolutely a duplicate but hey let's open it anyway.
 
Ron
Any Americans in here?
 
@Ron what does that matter?
 
Ron
When is February 2nd 12:00 pm central time?
Is that in 6 hours?
 
@Ron ask google
 
11:50 PM
@Ron No, 12:00 PM would be noon. 12:00 AM would be midnight.
 
@Ron from where? cst to wat?
 
Ron
@Makyen Ah, so. Many thanks. You are a saver.
 
@Ron its not hard just type 12pm cst in google geez.
 
Ron
@Lankymart I am sorry. This is my first time in this chat. Didn't know where else to ask.
 
@Ron facepalm
 
Ron
11:59 PM
Haha. Riot.
 

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