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12:34 AM
@Makyen GM.xmlHttpRequest = GM_xmlhttpRequest; actually worked. Where have all our JS SOBotics maintainers gone? XD
Thanks for your help btw.
 
@BaummitAugen That's... interesting. Which script? It's something that might be worth looking into.
np. I'm happy to help.
At least a few of the maintainers I know about have significantly reduced their involvement. I'm a bit swamped right at the moment with other scripts, but that should at least pause in the (hopefully) near future as I get the versions I'm currently working on to the point they're released. Thus, I might have some time (maybe), if you have things that need to happen.
 
Platform: Chromium on Linux.
Also, "need to happen" is a strong word, my user-base is small, they affected are using a workaround atm. Also, so far only one person is even reluctant to switch away from GM4, so if everything else fails, I'll just drop support.
 
1:05 AM
Hmmm... I'd have to take a close look at it in order to figure out what's really causing the issue. Thanks for the info. If you just want to support both, with only using needing xmlHttpRequest from the GM APIs, then it might be better to not require the gm4-polyfill.js (Even if you do require it, I recommend against using the version from the official GM location, as they've demonstrated that they do no testing prior to merging, and have broken things). You can then do something like:
if (typeof GM !== 'object') {
    GM = {};
    GM.xmlHttpRequest = GM_xmlhttpRequest;
}
@BaummitAugen Which will create GM.xmlHttpRequest for non-GM4 environments, but let GM4's GM.xmlHttpRequest function when it exists.
 
Hm, that's probably the easiest fix for now. I'll try that.
Wut? That apparently also doesn't work.
Maybe I'll just have two brnaches until the dust settles. XD
 
1:20 AM
Hmmm... that's a bit unexpected. Doesn't work in the same environment (Linux/Chrome/TM)?
 
Yup.
alert(typeof GM); prints object.
And typeof GM === 'undefined' yields false. That would explain some breakage.
 
@BaummitAugen It would certainly explain why that code didn't work. I had been wondering why GM.xmlHttpRequest = GM_xmlhttpRequest; without the GM = {}; did work. Looks like we need to know what GM is in that environment and why it's defined. What URL are you testing on?
 
What URL are you referring to? The site the script runs on?
Btw, if this is too OT for this room, we can take this to SOBotics if you want.
 
Yeah, lets do that.
It's easy to get wrapped up in the moment.
 
 
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4:13 AM
 
user3956566
I should add I mod flagged the user mass editing tags
 
user3956566
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5:04 AM
\o morning
!!/tea
 
@SurajRao brews a cup of chamomile tea for @SurajRao
 
 
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7:24 AM
@Mogsdad just for info meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/359616/…. Jal has already been notified also
I don't think we need to respond since question is not why it was closed
 
7:59 AM
\o
 
 
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Ron
10:59 AM
Hello World. How are you all feeling on this glorious Monday?
*Tuesday.
 
\o
 
BDL
Is gold badge reopening acceptable by a user who has an answer on the closed question?
 
@BDL dont think so... if the cv is legitimate... there was this when a gold badger reopened a dupe to answer
 
BDL
@SurajRao I ask because of this post: stackoverflow.com/posts/47396693/timeline. For me this looks as if the user tried to clear a duplicate close-vote from someone else. Should I flag that for moderator attention?
 
11:15 AM
@BDL yeah it looks like the user closed and then reopened to remove the close votes..
 
@BDL That user is available in chat you can also try to ping'em to have clarification
 
BDL
Thanks :)
 
it's Italian, written badly "MORTACCI TE CAINU".. is more or less "Death to you dog"
 
@BDL dont know if you picked it here.. but seems to be in meta already
 
BDL
@SurajRao That's where I found it :)
 
11:29 AM
Is there other way to see post timeline EXCEPT this one? meta.stackexchange.com/questions/127376/…
 
The link is that one, but you can install userscript to not have to type it.
 
yeah.. this one
 
Thanks, both of you :)
I can't access userscripts.org :(
 
11:54 AM
Hmm, is there some swipe running by the mods? The last weeks I had multiple voting corrections for removed users. Interestingly, my rep did not change much, the corrections are quite balanced.
 
Ron
12:10 PM
I don't know whether to get a linear actuator or a damper motor for the wood stove draft control...
Nvm, carry on.
 
1:03 PM
@Ron Still working on that? Hurry up, Winter is comming!
 
Ron
@Olaf Indeed so. Maybe buy an automated pellets heater and be done with it.
 
 
2:40 PM
@LW001 Plus a cucumber with a questionable "answer".
 
lol
 
2:51 PM
Any idea how long will CVRG remain broken? I'd prefer not to install tampermonkey or fiddle with browser settings.
 
@JohnDvorak 6 to 8 weeks ...
 
3:08 PM
@SmokeDetector I wonder if that is spam/promotion or just unclear?
 
@PatrickHofman From GMTC to rewrite C# in FooScript
 
3:25 PM
@HovercraftFullOfEels the use of your hammer on a question is debated on MSE, you might want to check if you have anything to say/add.
 
 
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4:36 PM
@PaulStenne I have an update to the multiple-questions script that (at least for me) works on both Chrome and FF (under TamperMonkey in both cases). Haven't tested Greasemonkey yet, but I'm avoiding all the problematic context menu stuff, so I'm hopeful. Instead of an item in the TamperMonkey context menu, you now get a numbered link in the upper-right corner of the window when questions are selected. Ugly, but functional. gist.github.com/paulroub/d633a8a8eb31f9123242
 
Does anyone have an idea what my client is referring to when asking "Is it you that handle record keeping visualize”?
what the heck can "record keeping visualize" be?? I have never heard that concept. (it's a rest service in bank sector, but I don't think it's related)
 
@PetterFriberg Visualisation of (data/account)record history?
 
in what sense?, records that have been shown?
 
@PetterFriberg No idea. Maybe how data has been or has changed? Was just a shot in the dark.
 
ok thanks anyway it seems to have sense that way, records requested by service (since it's a service that returns different isin)
 
4:47 PM
@PetterFriberg Just don't blame me if the customer is not satisfied;-) I couldn't be much further away from that field of IT.
 
you bet I will, I will just tell it was Olaf who told me that... If it was wrong just go and rage dv him on SO :D
 
Yes, blame the furball with the dark glasses
 
it's just a strange term "record keeping visualize", they passed it in English also so it's not some bad translation
Google also come up with a nice second on result on it google.it/… :D
 
@PetterFriberg Is he a native speaker? If not, maybe translating literally into his native language helps. (I know this from a lot of english texts written by Germans).
 
He is Italian, but passing that term in English, who knows where he got it from... anyway I can with less shame ask for clarification now.
 
4:52 PM
@PetterFriberg Hmm, you might get different results than me. I get most in German, although it searches world-wide.
 
@JohnDvorak I wasn't aware that it was broken. I'd like to resolve any problem you're having. Are you having an issue that's something other than the pinned issue with Firefox/GM4 (which is a bug in GM4 & believed resolved by a single reinstall of the script)? If it's that issue, was it not resolved by reinstalling the script (once) using the hack mentioned in that message (or switching to Tampermonkey or Violentmonkey)? If not, what environment (OS/Browser/userscript manager) are you using?
 
I haven't tried reinstalling yet. I'd like to avoid hacks.
 
@Olaf aah it redirects, google.it does not work baah I got "lets waffle it before someone flags" as second result ;)
 
@PetterFriberg The normal, well established behaviour is to just do whatever you think he wants, then let him file a bug report (five CCs), dig a hole, to throw them into, let them rot for 1 year, plant some flowers, let a goat eat that, eat the goat and wait for inspiration how to fix the problem while digesting the goat.
 
and just continue to send invoice's while doing that
 
4:56 PM
@PetterFriberg Yes, I forgot that's the banking sector.
 
5:17 PM
Also, some new questions in the close vote queue as well as some older ones needing 1 or 2 votes
 
Used all 40 of my queue votes on them already
 
@JohnDvorak The hack is a temporary change to the configuration of Firefox to allow GM4 to install userscripts from GitHub. The hack is: set security.csp.enable to false in about:config; Re-install the script; Set security.csp.enable to true. You should not leave security.csp.enable as false. The issue with the CVRG is a bug in GM4. The inability of GM4 to install from GitHub is a bug/issue in Firefox/GM4 (GM4 could/should design around the issue).
 
oh, thanks. Any idea when it will be fixed?
 
@JohnDvorak There's a bug filed against Firefox for the issue, which is about a month old. And an issue in GM4's GitHub (also a month old). A PR was filed for GM4, which may resolve the issue, 1 hour ago, but I haven't verified it. I have no information as to when GM4 will actually push a new version to AMO.
 
5:34 PM
@ErikvonAsmuth sounds like general computing to me
how to change the value of a table cell in MS Access
 
@TylerH Access and general computing are a grey area. There is VB code involved (and I expect some SQL too), but the OP isn't sharing it. That makes it off-topic on SU too imo
 
@ErikvonAsmuth sure, the question might need editing for wherever, I just feel like editing a value by clicking the cell and typing on the keyboard isn't really 'programming'
related
 
@TylerH I can't imagine it being just "how do I edit a table cell". Anyway, the question is really strange, I'm assuming it is a table is a weird thing to say. It shouldn't be hard to figure that out. I'm assuming it's not a table but a query (SQL so programming), and that makes it non updateable (hence no MCVE, we need the SQL to see how to make it updateable). If it was just: click on the cell, type in the value then OP must be kinda special
 
@JohnDvorak There's nothing we can do within the script to resolve the issue which doesn't require you to use the hack to reinstall either the current version, or a new version. The issue in GM4 is that it's not obeying a @require directive (the one requiring jQuery). This appears resolved with a single reinstall (no reports of reoccurrence, except me while actively modifying the script).
We could rewrite to not use jQuery, but you'd still have to install a new version, which requires using the hack or hosting somewhere where CSP doesn't prevent installation. Until GM4 or Firefox resolves the issue, there's no way to install/update any userscripts from GitHub without using the hack. The script might be able to be hosted somewhere other than GitHub, which may allow GM4 to install a new version.
 
@ErikvonAsmuth I agree but it's all I can assume based on what OP has said so far
but yes if he provides some SQL or says "the table is in a database" that would change things
 
5:49 PM
@TylerH Well, we could go "Unclear what you're asking" too ;) I obviously don't have a clue, because I can't imagine it being just "How do I edit a cell in a table". But perhaps I underestimate human stupidity.
 
6:01 PM
@JohnDvorak A possibility (untested): You could try changing (top of script): // @require https://code.jquery.com/jquery-2.1.4.min.js to // @require https://code.jquery.com/jquery-2.2.4.min.js (just version change to 2.2.4). This might have GM4 reevaluate & include the different version of jQuery. Changing the script in the repository would be pointless, because you'd still have to use the hack to install a new version and just reinstalling resolves the problem w/o changes.
 
Hi guys, just one question (curiosity), are "on hold" questions automatically deleted after a while?
 
@SilverSurfer only if not accepted and a score < 1 and some other rules
 
Ohs
ok thanks*
 
@SilverSurfer see roomba: stackoverflow.com/help/roomba
 
@rene score <1 for the question or for any answer?
 
6:10 PM
@SilverSurfer <1 for the question and no positive scoring or accepted answer
 
@SilverSurfer You can use the Roomba forecaster to see which questions will get deleted, when and why.
 
beat me to it ...
 
ok ty
 
@rene Now I will get all the rep for the accepted answer :D
Oh wait...
 
sends imaginary points to @ErikvonAsmuth
 
6:40 PM
An XY problem is not a close reason. It's their problem that solving the question doesn't solve their problem, but it's not off-topic/
2
 
7:06 PM
@Sami In the future, please provide a more detailed close-reason for your cv-pls requests. "off-topic" is insufficient, as it can mean many different close reasons. On SO, "off-topic" includes all of: General computing (Super User, but really anything that "doesn't belong here"); belongs on Server Fault; is a Resource request; No MCVE (debugging question which doesn't fulfill requirements); Typo/Not Reproducible; Migration (to a few different, but not all, sites); and Other: custom reason.
 
@Makyen Ok, I'l try to remeber that as I can, thank you very much for the details
and
As you can see in the question OP say "I want a sample exambles for sqlserver, MySQLServer, and database"
Which mean tutorials
 
7:26 PM
@IljaEverilä The question for this request has been edited to add information. Do you still want this cv-pls to be active?
 
Ron
o/
 
7:46 PM
o/
 
@adiga Also possibly a duplicate of this stackoverflow.com/questions/16908384/…
 
Ron
8:01 PM
The world runs on legacy code.
 
\o
 
Ron
o/
 
@LW001: it's very important, he even wants you to wake up Jesus Christ to help!
 
wow i just read that one
 
Is anyone experiencing significant delays on custom mod flags presently? I have one dating from nearly a month ago, and I am wondering if the kinds of flags I am raising are considered to be too trivial or a waste of time. My flag stats are very healthy, but I wonder if I am missing something of the picture here.
(Of course, I don't like to "hurry" mods, since they are volunteers too).
 
8:15 PM
@halfer Nov 10 at 21:13 pending, yeah probably a few mods have taken some vacation, lets hope they get back soon, in the mean while we can continue to fill the queue after all that's what SO is all about...
I think more work intense flags take more time... probably since they go... heck I skip this for now and try to clear some quick ones
 
@PetterFriberg thanks, and yes, I do think that happens. I've been flagging much more simple stuff, and they are actioned quickly.
 
@halfer I have 2 pending, one from Oct, 24th and one Nov, 17th, both possible plagiarism flags. I guess Brad is busy.
 
I have been pondering a Meta post (too ill-defined in my head to post it yet) on how keen editors/voters can develop a better relationship with mods. I'd welcome more moderator comment on my editing activity (or indeed any community-moderation aspect really) but there isn't much of a feedback loop here at present (and of course I don't want to give them more work). More guidance PMs from mods to editors/voters might help, but I've only ever had one in my lifetime on the site.
@rene thanks, fair enough
Yep, my oldest one is Oct 26th, so ya got me beat :=)
 
\o/
Let's hope no one beats me ...
 
beats rene with a large trout
 
8:27 PM
 
Jay for Monthy Python!
 
Right, I'm off to the Argument Clinic, I'll take a Silly Walk along the way, and then I'll report some Spam, Spam, Spam, Spam...
\o
 
cheers!
 
I've been squawking a lot today, I'm probably just pining for the fjords :=)
 
@rene indeed
 
9:00 PM
Hi all! o/
 
o/
 
He practically copy-pasted the wall of text for chrome / mozilla
And assumes there's a bug in both browsers, instead of coming to the conclusion there's a bug in his own logic :D
 
9:24 PM
@Makyen A very late reply regarding that no mcve request: it's closable as a typo after the edits.
 
Mild heat. ^
 
went to a sushi buffet
still alive =w=
 
9:42 PM
@PaulRoub Wtf? Let's close, downvote and delete that garbage.
This should be gone, too, but it's locked. Well then. vOv
 
@Compass Is eating sushi dangerous in your country or did you have Fugu?
 
9:58 PM
> How to recursive directory? win32 api
Hm, how indeed? XD
 
@IljaEverilä Thanks. No problem on the delay. I should have looked down at the self-answer, which explicitly states it was a typo. Sorry about that. Question is now closed.
 
 
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11:15 PM
Thanks. Now a del-pls (I've cast one)
@Makyen: You're a RO, right? Can you remove my last cv-pls? No longer needed; the post has been closed and deleted.
 
Tried to re-ask the same question under a different user name. :/
 
@HovercraftFullOfEels Flagged?
 
Yes of course
 
Good.
 
11:39 PM
 
11:53 PM
@KenWhite: you're deleting too quickly, before all have had a chance to down-vote
 
@HovercraftFullOfEels :-) Sorry. Notice your name has been showing up around the same as mine on those close and delete votes.
 
@KenWhite: :)
 
@HovercraftFullOfEels Guess my mother trained me too well. "When you see the trash needs to be taken out, TAKE IT OUT!" :-)
 
@KenWhite: True. The only issue with quick deletes (in my mind) is that some questions deserve more DV's. Perhaps they will get the OP question blocked more quickly (though not sure).
 

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