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12:39 AM
Morning \o
 
12:54 AM
So how do I deal with a situation like this. (not posting link because of what happened last time)
OP asks a question about a topic they clearly show they do not know much about. An answer was provided that, based on provided question would solve their problem. hours past and then OP asks you to delete your answer. You ask why given that the answer provided should solve problem. No comment, they delete the question and promptly ask the exact same question again.
What do you do?
is this off topic for here? let me know if i should just take it to meta?
I am not even sure if to comment on new post to avoid any conflict
 
@TetsuyaYamamoto Thanks I'll give them a look. so far it is just the one that I know of.
Well I have now come to the realization that their post is now a duplicate but I am reluctant to hammer it because now it would come across as retaliation. which it is not.
 
I guess the most important lesson is to not engage with people that have no idea what they are doing unless you are ready to provide interactive tutoring.
(Which this site is not suited for IMO, but common practice appears to disagree.)
 
1:11 AM
I am trying my best to ignore it.
 
@Nkosi I suggest you to avoid engaging with OP that doesn't know how to do their intention. If it's obviously a help vamp, I will try to find possible dupes and mark the Q as such.
 
right now I don't think I should have anything else to do with the OP. so just trying to stay clear.
 
 
1 hour later…
user3956566
2:23 AM
this is really interesting stackoverflow.blog/2017/08/29/…
 
> C/C++
triggered
 
user3956566
hi eyes
 
2:38 AM
\o
@YvetteColomb Should I consider answering PHP questions? I'm shocked that my colleagues country has highest PHP usage as defined in SO blog.
 
user3956566
@TetsuyaYamamoto well depends if you want to conform to the stereotypical type of your country LOL
 
user3956566
@TetsuyaYamamoto I'm shocked your country is considered low middle income??
 
3:07 AM
I'm more surprised China has that little views.
 
user3956566
@BaummitAugen they cannot access the site without bypassing the web controls for the country
 
@YvetteColomb Not like that. I'm shocked because my colleagues from that country uses PHP more than I did.
 
@YvetteColomb Oh, even SO is banned? Did not know that.
 
user3956566
@TetsuyaYamamoto yes, I understand, I just thought Japan was a high income country
 
user3956566
@BaummitAugen a lot of places are banned in there :/
 
user3956566
3:11 AM
Imagine the traffic we'd get if it wasn't? Largest population - larger than India
 
Given that, it's kind of surprising baidu is almost tied with bing in referring search engines, way ahead of yahoo.
Maybe the stats in the blog missed some VPN/Proxy visitors?
 
user3956566
@BaummitAugen could have. I'm not sure -- interestingly I thought there was a site scraping SO posts and reposting them as their own work. It turned out it was a way for Chinese programmers to access the site's content
 
user3956566
when a post is in the close queue - how many open reviews does it need to bump it off the queue? I'm having trouble finding a meta post on this
 
@YvetteColomb Not all SO scraping sites are claiming reposted things as their own, I see that some attempts to break GFWoC barrier still improving for today. I wonder if some SO content are blocked in China due to that firewall...?
 
user3956566
@TetsuyaYamamoto our site is blocked by the firewall.
 
4:04 AM
Is this answer a spam post: stackoverflow.com/a/45944021? It includes link at the end but I can't sure if the link contains proper reference.
 
4:15 AM
@TetsuyaYamamoto Question is definitely O/T though
 
@AjayBrahmakshatriya I agree that Q where that A belongs to is more suitable for SU. But what I asking here is that linked A which the link content seems suspicious.
 
@TetsuyaYamamoto To be fair the link provided has a section called - "How to boost wifi speed?" which further links to zappedia.com/slow-wifi-speed which has content related to the question.
 
@AjayBrahmakshatriya So the A is not obviously spam post? Or it still apply for other flag instead?
 
@TetsuyaYamamoto I don't think anything is wrong with the answer. It tries to answer what is asked. I would just close the question.
 
4:45 AM
Anyone with dupehammer can close this Q for tag: stackoverflow.com/questions/45951958/…? The dupe target is not accepted yet.
 
5:24 AM
@NobodyNada Not really a problem, by the way. If the flags are identical, then we can dismiss them both at the same time. If they're unique, then, well, it helps to see 'em both, lest we might miss something.
 
5:39 AM
@YvetteColomb I'm sorry if my message came across like that, but I'm in no hurry to do any burnination. That flag was there since 5 months. I picked it up last week. If you feel that there's any wrongly closed post, please let me know. It's now in the final step of burnination, but I'll not proceed without your approval. Do let me know when I should take the last step and I'll take it. Thanks for your time!
 
5:58 AM
Segmentation fault block and Segementation Fault in C using fgets(), strtok(), strcpy() have uncanny similarities and have been posted in short time intervals.
 
@SmokeDetector ^
 
@AjayBrahmakshatriya Not suspicious. Probably a college assignment. Close as dupe if appropriate.
 
@CodyGray Okay, both are unanswered yet. As one of OP clarifies further I will try to answer one and close other as duplicate.
 
6:12 AM
@YvetteColomb I salvaged a couple of formerly -tagged questions, either by rewriting and reopening them, or just removing the tag to save them from deletion and information loss. The rest are gone. A couple more might have been possible to turn into valid questions, but they were many years old and unanswered, so no real value lost in deleting them. Only a handful I wasn't certain about, not being an Android developer. Do you think any of the remaining questions are worth saving?
 
6:28 AM
>> sd k for the newest answer
 
mornin -__-
 
user3956566
\0
 
Morning \o
 
user3956566
@CodyGray thanks so much - I've edited out the tag from the 2 posts I think are worthwhile staying on the site - the other two can go. I've also requested reopen votes on them ^^
 
user3956566
6:42 AM
si sayess \o
 
Morning \0
 
Siya sYvette \o
 
user3956566
@Ferrybig Hi!! long time no see Unlike @BaummitAugen who really is just eyes with a tree and all he does is see :D
 
@YvetteColomb mind editing them to be more in shape than simply ripping a tag out?
 
6:45 AM
@YvetteColomb Hi, Yeah, I was mostly active inside Charcoal HQ for a few days now
 
user3956566
ah k
 
user3956566
@Adriaan there's nothing wrong with them. They were closed with a view to burning htc - they sat on the site for years quite open and on topic
 
user3956566
@DragandDrop do you mind if I nickname you copy and paste? cap for short
 
@Ferrybig I often see you in the HQ... but don't know what topic I want to bring for you.
 
6:47 AM
@YvetteColomb Doesn't mean that smileys and misspellings are perfectly fine to leave in when editing.
 
Okay. New pseudo-badge for me: participate in and complete first large-scale burnination.
 
If I'm your Cap, You will be my boat!
 
user3956566
@Adriaan seriously - you're being a little officious - this is a volunteer job and a smiley isn't a deal breaker
 
user3956566
@DragandDrop deal! shakes hand
 
user3956566
@CodyGray I won't participate - unless it involves a tag I frequent - then I'll be a pain in the neck watch dog reviewer :D How did you find it?
 
6:49 AM
@TetsuyaYamamoto I usually have that problem in conversations too, I want to chat, but don't know any good topics that are longer than 2-3 lines
 
@YvetteColomb Well, this one was happening with or without me, so I figured I might as well help it along and make sure I'm happy with the results. What do you mean "find it"?
 
Walking in the office like a pirate I'am your Cap now!
 
@YvetteColomb IMO a post needs to be edited into shape before reopening; regardless of whether the closure was incorrect or not. That means spending a minute or two removing smileys, thanks, misspellings and trying to get the question to read better in my book.
 
user3956566
@CodyGray you answered that in the first part of your comment. Find it - as in enjoy it - find your experience
 
Oohh. Fine, actually. So much better when you have moderator privileges. Less pain, less disruption, more action.
 
user3956566
6:56 AM
@CodyGray ttytt - that is what I crave about being a mod on here. I'm a mod on pets and it's so much easier to deal with obvious stuff.
 
Right. Well, I yearn for the days of old, when Jeff Atwood would handle burninations himself and the community didn't even have to worry about them. For really stupid tags, you'd just delete them from the system. For the rest, you'd just go through with mod privileges and delete garbage.
Same thing with tag merges and synonyms. Without a diamond involved, it's a big pain in the butt, and something I'd rather keep to a minimum. That doesn't mean I'm against keeping the site clean, though, so that's why I'm trying to stay very on top of Meta requests for synonyms/merges/etc.
Only problem is, as mentioned elsewhere, you need someone with experience in that tag to confirm whether these actions are really a good idea. I don't know everything about everything yet, so that's kinda a stumbling block.
 
user3956566
@CodyGray You're doing a great job. Just be careful to pace yourself.
 
user3956566
@CodyGray well of course, each language or framework has it's own pecadilloes. We can get the gist by reading code in any language, but as for finer points it's impossible to know
 
@YvetteColomb Thanks. I'll be fine. :-)
 
7:17 AM
morning all
 
 
1 hour later…
8:26 AM
Morning o/
 
I'm looking for a plus in a box and minus in a box character, similar to fileformat.info/info/unicode/char/229e/index.htm and fileformat.info/info/unicode/char/229F/index.htm but with some padding, anyone know what they're called?
 
@NickA Something like this?
 
@Thaillie yes, but ideally without the use of fa, the framework I'm working with makes adding any form of css very difficult
although inline works fine if I find that characters exact definition
 
8:40 AM
@NickA You can just use the unicode (f196) for it in that case and only add the font
 
@Thaillie hmm, I'm using real time systems with limited bandwidth, It'd be useful to only have those two characters, I think I may just go the SVG route
or even, character with a border with rounded edges >.<
 
8:57 AM
I flaged the wrong duplicate on 2 different question in a row. I need sleep
 
Behold, the fruits of my labour: <div style="border:1px solid white; width:10px;height:9px;border-radius:2px;line-height:10px;">+</div>
 
Can someone with CHtmlView knowledge review this? From ASP.NET tag I wanna CV as 'too broad': stackoverflow.com/questions/45955977/….
 
9:13 AM
@NickA The plus touches the bottom borders with Arial font. I guess you are better off using SVG.
 
@AjayBrahmakshatriya Probably, but again, because I'm extending a framework the user won't be editing the font so I don't need to worry about it being built for a specific font
if I have a comparison in JS of types int <= "some string representing an int" will the string be cast to a number?
or should I just parse it first
 
9:42 AM
This site seems doesn't provide attribution for corresponding SO posts: howtobuildsoftware.com. Is that eligible as SO 'illegal' scraper?
 
@TetsuyaYamamoto It's funny how they also copy [closed] in the title howtobuildsoftware.com/index.php/how-do/bMoy/…
 
@Shadow, it's not server better on super user. but i find it mainly too board.
there is many way from config files to db alteration to render a working site invalid in few click. Op was "loged in". He did it. He click a button and don't know wich one or on what layer.. Could be anything.
 
10:04 AM
These are my last requests for today due to run out of CVs, see you tomorrow :)
 
cya :)
How should I flag a question which should be directed towards a companies customer support and not us?
 
@NickA -------------^
 
@NickA There is also a customer support auto comment which can be used but I don't have it to hand unfortunately.
 
> ###[C] We are not Customer Support
> I'm voting to close this question as off-topic because [we are not customer support for your favorite company](//meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/255745/).
 
Perfect thanks, I'll get that added to my list
 
10:52 AM
What the heck is the down-voting for? -- is this rude or abusive?
 
@AjayBrahmakshatriya Nah
 
@Kyll okay, thanks!
 
Rude or abusive comments on this subject look more like "Who are the idiots and sons of unicorns who downvoted my perfectly good post?"
 
@AjayBrahmakshatriya although it is non-constructive
 
@NickA Well, no longer needed at least
 
10:54 AM
@Kyll yes, "otherwise unnecessary." is the bit I was getting at ^^
 
@SmokeDetector that is a closed post and probably fp.. Why blacklist?
 
@SmokeDetector Anybody knows why MS caught this twice?
There are also two entries on meta smoke
 
@AjayBrahmakshatriya Question name changed shortly after first flag, that probably didn't help
 
Weird, the post ID did not change
 
@kayess They are the same questions, MS caught it twice because it was edited and both of the versions are offending
@NickA Possible bug with Smoke Detector?
 
11:29 AM
@AjayBrahmakshatriya yep likely
 
Morning
 
'noon..
 
Morning
 
Ron
o/
 
11:33 AM
o/
 
Ron
@MartinJames How much of a field work do you have with embedded? Any overseas travels?
 
Got hammered by gold badge holder, @Nat could you pls trash that req of mine
 
TY
 
11:36 AM
@Ron If you mean 'standing in the rain in front of an open cabinet, trying to keep a debug laptop dry', then I have some game:)
 
Ron
Haha, that's the one.
I used to sit in a factory in China for a prolonged periods of time.
 
@Ron DE, CZ, US.
 
Ron
@MartinJames Awesome.
@MartinJames May I ask what's the industry, line of work? Exactly what I am looking for.
 
@Ron 'ATM, 'Fluid management'....(that's measuring oil etc into trucks in garages and lube bays:).
 
Ron
@MartinJames Appreciate it. In your case is it mostly C or is there some C++ development?
 
11:40 AM
@Ron There is too much legacy C to avoid it entirely, plus the nasty 8051, with it's near-hopeless 256 bytes of RAM, keeps hanging around:(
@Ron Much more C++/ARM about now:)
 
Ron
@MartinJames Many thanks. Sounds interesting.
@MartinJames Do you get to develop new functionality or is it mostly maintenance?
 
@Ron If you have some hardware skills as well as C and C++ etc, it's almost impossible to remain unemployed. My degree is actually in Electrical and Electronic Engineering, and it's helped a lot:)
@Ron I won't deny that there's a lot of legacy maintenance - one reason I keep moaning about 'clever code', 'over-complex expressions' and 'not enough temp vars' in SO comments. You only need one maintenance job that's been coded up by some 'super-efficient' coder to cure over-complexity.
 
Ron
@MartinJames I see. I took a 3 months break. Time to get to work again. Visa is an issue. I don't want to work in SE Europe . No interesting projects here whatsoever.
 
I just used this as a dupe target. Should it be closed as TB or POB?
 
@Ron Interesting? Just take the money:)
 
Ron
11:50 AM
@MartinJames I thought so too. Then I realized I can't do something I don't enjoy, can't do endless maintenance. Despite the hefty amounts. Maybe it will change when I cross the 40 years of age boundary.
 
@Ron It is much more challenging than writing new stuff, (much more crap code:).
 
Ron
Haha. I hear that. using namespace std was a holy grail on my last job. Apart from the C style casts and const static local variables.
 
@Ron Eww....
 
@Martin If you don't mind my asking, what I've noticed is that most embedded jobs want you to have experience working on embedded platforms, but how would you get that experience unless you've actually had such a job? It's not like you can just teach yourself specialty hardware by reading books and answering SO questions.
 
Ron
@MartinJames I know, right? Bloody disaster. And C++11 wasn't even allowed through the gates.
 
11:57 AM
@CodyGray Yeah.. I was (un)lucky in that I had a hardware-based education and a long-standing interest in building the stuff. I grew up with 8080/6502/Z80, and the rest just followed on..
 
I would love to get a job working on embedded systems because it would save me from having to do web development (which I don't want to do), but I don't have any real experience and that usually keeps me from being considered as a serious applicant.
 
@CodyGray yeah.. I could use a scope, meter and analyser before I could write even 8086 code;) Also, web development... :((
I doan' wanna do JS/PHP.. please take it away.. it hurtses.. momma save me..
 
Ron
@CodyGray May I suggest this book coupled with a Beagle-bone Black board. That's the advice I got from a seasoned embedded developer.
 
Also, I'm crap at webdev.
 
Ron
@MartinJames I've covered pretty much all the mainstream languages. Lost all interest in other languages after discovering C++ a year ago.
 
12:05 PM
@Ron You 'discovered' C++ ? Most devs get it dropped on them from a great height and they are not fast enough to dodge.
 
Ron
@MartinJames Yeah, I am somewhat of a late bloomer. Binge drinking was a full time job back in the days. ;) All sober and C++ inclined now.
 
And here I thought sobriety and C++ had an inverse relationship
 
Ron
Mine was the Delphi + Jack Daniels no7 combo.
 
@Ron If you expect that a large C++ project will rebuild, after some small debug change, as fast as a large Delphi project, you may go back to binge-drinking to fill in the waiting time:)
 
Ron
@MartinJames Haha. I hear that.
PIMPL, GNU Build and fast SSD to the rescue.
 
12:09 PM
@Ron I don't know why modules is taking so long to appear in C++ :(
 
Ron
@MartinJames I don't know why but it's still a world of joy to me. Unlike any other language I've seen or worked with. Seems like there's no end to C++ depth.
 
@Ron 'C++ is a world of joy to me' - you know I've bookmarked that..:)
 
Ron
@MartinJames You can quote me on that. ;)
 
..and it will be used against you in a court of whatever when you moan about your C++ bugs next year:)
 
Ron
@MartinJames "... when done right and a world of pain when not".
Court of managed and interpreted languages.
@MartinJames I am years away from moaning about C++ bugs and getting into pedantic standard quotes fights. Those are yet to come.
 
12:30 PM
Failed all my Research with no result even on basic thing.. discover that a collegue change all our default search engine to bing.
@Fred-ii-, op is alive he edited his question!
 
@DragandDrop Gotta love those multi vertical scrollbars! lol
 
It's the code of the snipet of my code, legit.
@Fred-ii-, go to the last and the 1rst page it's funny..
 
Ron
What's the close reason for question failing to exhibit the research on basic ABC?
 
> Protesting this feature.
rofl
 
Ron
Spoon-feed-me? Can't find it in the list.
 
12:38 PM
@Ron Nothing
Failure to research is not a scope issue but a quality one
If you want to vote on quality, use upvotes and downvotes
 
Ron
I see.
 
That kind of question can also exhibit scope issues, for example "How do I foo the bar?" can be too broad for these foo and bar
 
@fire alive
 
A question such as "How do I sort an array of numbers in ascending order in [language]?" can show little research but is nonetheless perfectly answerable.
@J.Steen @Ron This is a good example of a question with both scope and quality issues
 
Happy to provide.
 
12:41 PM
=p
 
Ron
Take for example this question. It's going south. I am curious to see what happens to it. I wonder if it should be closed or not. So far I am refraining from raising a flag.
 
It could arguably be closed as too broad, but the c++ crowd might disagree, who knows.
 
@Ron I don't C++ a lot, you might want to ping Nathan. Overall this question shows low research and is fairly basic. It does seem to be answerable in a couple lines though (download source, add #include <cpr/cpr.h>, done)
 
@Kyll I get the feeling they don't even know how to use the library, when included.
 
That's another issue...
 
12:46 PM
I have a mixed feeling on this one.. Do you have popcorn?
 
If you guys have any idea how to salvage it, be my guest
Well then if you have that feeling please comment. Tell OP why their post isn't a good fit on SO, and suggest a way to get out of their issue anyway (like, a tutorial or something). Point them to the help center or chat and help them become a more productive part of SO.
That's the Loyal Good way of things
 
Yeah, it is.
 
The [entry] tag is being considered for burnination. If you have an opinion, please weigh in on the linked Meta question.
10
 
Thanks @J.Steen =D
 
A bit of a PSA: Firefox 57 deprecated its old extensions, which includes Greasemonkey. Tampermonkey is available for Firefox and is not deprecated
 
12:50 PM
@DragandDrop I'm not visiting their site lol
 
@Enzokie I did not understand the second part of your message?
@Machavity Dangit Firefox...
 
@Kyll It's a double edged sword. They deprecated the old ones but the new ones work with the same codebase that Chrome supports. So no more double dev work
 
sorry Im on phone
 
@Enzokie Ah, right =p
 
*offend
 
12:52 PM
@Machavity Yeah but no more Vimperator =(
 
@Kyll can u pls delete my message I dont want to cry :)
 
Haha sure
 
@Fred-ii-, So its a web site about <spoiler> how to "enhance your image" with their service. </sploiler>
 
@Kyll Looks like they're trying to update it to work with the new system, just haven't gotten there yet
 
12:54 PM
@DragandDrop Oh, I see. So that's what the comment under the question was about hahah!!
 
@Machavity It's been a long while... First it didn't work with e10s and now this
 
thanky
 
@Kyll I'm still mourning Firebug tho. Was using FirePHP and had to switch
 
Aw
@Machavity Is something wrong with Will? Is he sick or something?
 
@Kyll I think he made himself hoarse with all the yelling at the screen I imagine him doing
 
user3956566
1:05 PM
ok I'm going to bed
 
user3956566
night all \o
 
@Machavity Poor Will =(
Night Aussie
 
GN
 
@Kyll ?
 
1:07 PM
@JonClements First time I've seen a newly posted SEO question without Will commenting or CVing
Hope he's okay
 
@JonClements Will hasn't CVed any SEO questions in like a week. Maybe he's sick. or maybe he got another strongly worded letter
 
1:19 PM
@Ferrybig What a long read to end up on a typo =|
 
my vtc ^ was based on their: "i want any php script". However, "too broad" also fits.
 
1:33 PM
No idea why the OP is commenting in here stackoverflow.com/a/45961681 - I realize they want to help them, but they should be telling them (also) that it isn't an answer, to which I flagged as such.
 
Meh, some people don't care. :(
@DragandDrop Attempt to parse XML with regex? :)
 
no language so its not really no mcve it's unclear for him what he wanna do
it could be doing remplace in np++
It could be anything in fact.
 
2:08 PM
@Machavity You say that as if Firefox 57 is out yet
 
@TylerH Hmm, they list this as 57 but 55 already is showing these as deprecated. But they're dropping the XUL extensions in 6-8 weeks
 
@Machavity actually 6 to 8 weeks, btw, not Stack Overflow 6 - 8 weeks
57 comes out in midnovember
he clearly states 'my github'
 
2:29 PM
Is that last SD report spam? The video is not even avalable
 
2:42 PM
@DragandDrop you linked to the A, not the Q
 
I hope you guys won't have issue with my personal guide line on homework question : give them answer that will ring a bell if they copy past it.
@NathanOliver, I guess it's the price for answering poor question.
 
Huh? In your cv-pls you used a link to the answer, not the question. That messes with the archiver script.
 
@HovercraftFullOfEels Can you close this as a dupe of this if you think it applies? They used run instead of start.
 
@DragandDrop Also, I just noticed you answer that. We don't do requests on questions you have answered. If it was good enough for you to answer then you shouldn't ask for it to be closed. If it should be closed then you should not answer it.
 
@HovercraftFullOfEels Nevermind, the user who reopened it just reclosed it with the same dupe.
 
3:01 PM
@nat, arg.. I failed again. Every day You tell me that I mess with the archiver. But for me answer and closable is more complexe than how the community describe them. But my doctor told I should not talk to ppl so it won't be a meta post..
 
3:12 PM
@DragandDrop Oh - you have a 'special doctor'? Usually, it's only PHP developers who need that kind of analysis and treatment. Pro-tip - if offered psychoactive drugs, just say no.
 
 
2 hours later…
 
5:10 PM
is anyone familiar with the MIT Internet of Things certificate
 
@Compass MIT concerns itself with Idiot-of-Things? Mass. Institute of Toasters?
 
I dunno
 
Seems a bit below it's dignity;)
It's all IPv6's fault. Now we're being DDoS'ed by ship anchors and car park bollards, just because of a new addressing range;(
Hmm. I thnk I need a few beers.
 
I... what
I guess I understand the concept but why do you need a certificate for this.
 
5:27 PM
@Compass Not sure either. Maybe you can download a certificate from your kettle:)
 
@MartinJames ipv6 devices cannot ddos ipv4 devices, and if the consumer doesn't have ipv6, then they cannot ddos other ipv6 devices either
 
plugs usb dongle into kettle
Says it's a teapot :/
 
@TylerH @Machavity, @Kyll: Firefox 57 is out. It's currently in Nightly. However, in Nightly and Developer Edition, you can/will be able to enable legacy extensions by changing the extensions.legacy.enabled preference. Convenience URL: about:config?filter=extensions.legacy.enabled
 
@Compass lol
 
5:50 PM
@Machavity Other extension types vs WebExtensions isn't a double edged sword. Supporting WebExtensions and eliminating other extension types are separate choices. To me, eliminating other types of extensions makes Firefox not-Firefox. I think I'll call it Smolderfox, as the fire is out. Basically, large portions of what I actively use in Firefox on a daily basis are just not possible with WebExtensions or, at best, dramatically less convenient, as disassociation from the Firefox UI is required.
 
6:00 PM
@MartinJames I'm not allowed to talk to people because I ask to the 'givme the codez' if the way they ask is not related to not reading guide line but more rooted in a parenting issue. Showing no respect and writing things like 'cant you read the picture' is more related to an issue in their education. And they think i'm agressive and not nice. when I'm just worried
 
wat
 
@DragandDrop Yeah, I get it:(
 
@Makyen yes, I meant 'released'
Man, embedding CSS files in VS 2005 was easy... you could drag and drop a file onto the design view of a page
I half expect that that converted all the styles to inline styles, though...
 
That sounds like antistyle
 
@TylerH VS2005 ... srsly?
 
6:09 PM
i too, remember the days when Java was prefixed with a number 1.
 
@Compass it will add a <link> in the head I assume
 
I don't remember VS2005
 
@rene I was looking for how to do it
so naturally the only content on Microsoft's websites is for ancient tech circa 2005 and 2008
I clicked the link that says "click here for the modern version of this page" and it took me to a 404
thanks, MS
@ThomasWeller the answerer seems to think your duplicate target is inaccurate
 
6:52 PM
I just installed Visual Studio 17. Feels good.
 
@AjayBrahmakshatriya welcome
 
did you do it in under a day? :-P
 
It's nice.
 
you can feel software? What does notepad feel like?
 
6:52 PM
@TylerH Overnight, on office desktop
 
BTW - anyone know what the difference is for asp.net websites between "HTML5" and "DOCTYPE HTML5" in the target schema dropdown?
 
@gunr2171 Notepad++ feels scaly
 
@gunr2171 Dry.
 
@TylerH The latter is... odd. HTML5 has no explicit doctype
 
@Machavity well this isn't what it's literally putting in the html file, just the schema VS should use for things like intellisense
 
6:54 PM
@gunr2171 NPP feels . . dead?
 
why aren't all of you going to flag that last SD report as offensive. free flags folks!
 
no idea. I got my flag
 
good lad
 
I just put mine in
I was working on this stupid teapot
 
6:56 PM
@Compass Did you get a smart teapot?
 
"smart"
 
@Compass Yeah, 418 errors can be a pain
 
The enterprise version is $2882 :O
 
@AjayBrahmakshatriya Of a teapot? Man, that's expensive
 
@AjayBrahmakshatriya You should just get an MSDN license if you need VS Enterprise
 
6:57 PM
@Kyll :p I wonder what "enterprise" does to that.
 
then it's included :-)
 
@TylerH Free for MS employees :D
 
along with every other version of all the MS software past and present, basically
 
@TylerH Recently also learnt that we get $150 in azure credits per month. The small bits . .
 
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