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6:01 PM
@TinyGiant I've noticed you've started reviewing! I'll update your session record.
@TinyGiant I've noticed you've started reviewing! I'll update your session record.
 
Sam
:/
@Clo stop bot
 
@Sam I'm shutting down...
Shutting down. (Sam's Backup Server)
 
JAL
I'll just hammer and comment
Your question is identical to the linked duplicate. If you feel that the duplicate does not answer your question, please edit your post to show your attempt an explain exactly what is "not working" with a Minimal, Complete, and Verifiable example. — JAL 14 secs ago
 
@TinyGiant I almost had a heart attack. Think of the poor periods!!
 
user4639281
6:09 PM
:P
 
user4639281
What, I only get to start my reviewing session three times?
 
JAL
Am I wrong here? Looks like this user just said "I tried the answer in [linked question] and it doesn't work" without any attempt to show what they are actually doing: stackoverflow.com/q/42120346/2415822
 
Whoa, did anyone else see this?
"Failing audits will now undo some recent reviews" - are there any plans to work something like this back into Stack Overflow proper? This could help undo damage caused by new reviewers who spam reviews until they hit their first ban. — Brad Larson ♦ yesterday
 
@JAL Nothing shows that they even tried it.
"It's not a dupe" is not a good reason.
 
6:25 PM
@Tunaki I am not familiar with the reflag tag. what would be my action in response to this tag
 
I posted that in comments.
You can try but watch it get reopend
too broad harder
 
@Nkosi It is better to flag link only answers as VLQ. See the related FAQ meta.stackoverflow.com/a/265553/4099593
 
@SotiriosDelimanolis Let's see
 
@BhargavRao I wasn't sure. Thanks for letting me know that going forward.
 
^ nope
 
6:47 PM
And in today's episode of "Wth tags", we have
 
@SotiriosDelimanolis so nice, it was answered 15 minutes after closure (great abuse there), and it's the same as the linked question....
 
vba sucks. there should be a simple one-command way to find and select the first cell that has insertstringhere in it -_-
 
define "first cell"
 
however excel counts cells
Good, I found it. Cells.Find("Address").Activate
but stupid that Worksheet.Find or just .Find or .Range("A:A").Find won't work
when are robots gonna take over our jobs so we can just watch cat videos all day -_-
 
user4639281
@TylerH Except the robots won't know how to find the cell
 
6:59 PM
that's their problem
btw I have put another 25 or so questions in the CVQ. They should all appear by about 10 minutes from now
@TinyGiant you
 
user4639281
7:14 PM
@TylerH 100%
 
user4639281
OOoo got my first reversal badge on meta
 
Congrats!
 
user4639281
Thanks :)
 
7:36 PM
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Q: Are these fair deletions?

Pekka 웃In an unrelated Meta question two questions came to light that had recently been deleted by a gold-badge user in the Java tag: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/42054478/calling-string-intern-before-first-literal-occurence http://stackoverflow.com/questions/42052932/sort-list-of-objects-based-...

FYI.
 
Oh god, I just answered in the other post.
thanks, I'll try to reply
those are on me
 
user4639281
@SotiriosDelimanolis You may have submitted the request, but the requests were reviewed and completed by members of this room. While some of the onus may be on you for submitting the request, it is not all on you.
 
I'm hashing things in my login now
Before we was using hash = md5(pass)
 
Hi @Mag \o
 
@BhargavRao o/ bhar
 
7:47 PM
Howyabeen? Haven't seen ya in Sobotics since ages!
 
busy at work
I got slapped with writing a whole ERP implementation for a company
 
Ah, So the holidays are over ;)
 
@SotiriosDelimanolis dup is a dup is a dup...regardless of professed quality.
 
Well, it's good to be busy. Enjoy ya work! It gives you the bread and butter. Best of luck :)
 
Hello!
 
7:49 PM
Hiya \o
 
user4639281
@Lankymart The point is that some dupes are useful as sign posts, unless the dupe does not make it any easier to find the dupe target.
 
@TinyGiant nice
 
@Tunaki @Tushar @SamuelLiew you have delete voted two questions probably in response on a request from @SotiriosDelimanolis that is now under scrutiny here. Chime in there if you have anything to add.
 
Yeah catching up
 
OK, thanks
 
7:51 PM
Heck yes, I refactored one sub and sped up my whole module from ~ 40 seconds to ~4 seconds
 
@SotiriosDelimanolis Here I give you a "R" for free!
You might want to use it here: http://meta.stackoverflow.com/a/343313 "SOCV" ;)
 
I posted, gotta go eat, bbl
 
We aren't supposed to Recommend Deletion for code-only answers in the LQPQ, right?
 
Yes
 
@NobodyNada code only is still an answer
bad one, but still
 
8:01 PM
That's what I thought, thanks!
 
@NobodyNada If you do, Undo will bite you meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/287563/…
 
Yep; just found that post; thanks!
 
@BhargavRao Undo bites are vicious
 
Yep.
 
evil, those Undo bites. :P
 
8:07 PM
nom nom nom
 
See if you mention Undo undo comes and nibbles
:p
 
Can a moderator do a search for me in chat. We lost track of something and can't find it anymore.
 
I want to write a program that parses chat transcripts and figures out which words each user says more than average
@ThomasWard would probably result in "evil"
 
@rene Search what?
 
@BhargavRao this id please: 42052932
might be here or in the Graveyard
 
8:11 PM
@rene Moderators don't really have any special chat search abilities
 
I'm searching from Google, much simpler :p
 
@Undo oh ... :)
 
@Undo Yeah that's just Queen :)
Google ""42052932" site:chat.stackoverflow.com" comes up empty as well
 
8:12 PM
@Undo yeah, that is the dupe report. We are looking for the possible delete vote
 
Was it in a SOCVFinder batch?
 
I dunno
 
I don't get it.
 
probably a spammer that used Buy xiphos now
 
@rene Was it in @Soti's gist? We all used to delv vote from that.
 
8:16 PM
@BhargavRao yeah, we found it there but as it was deleted by only members from SOCVR we assumed there should have been a request
 
Ah, Then I'm sure that the regulars must have deleted it from the gist.
 
Yep ^
 
OK, back to DEFCON 2
 
@rene wait that is pretty high, why so high?
 
user4639281
@TylerH We're always at DEFCON 2
 
8:25 PM
we just came back from 1
 
Were were at war with someone?
 
:-/
 
@Compass there was a meta post ...
 
When I get pulled out of a meeting by other ROs, we are at DEFCON 1.
 
hehe
gunr judges national security based on whether he's in a meeting or not
 
user4639281
8:35 PM
Doesn't the rest of the world judge the national security alert level based on whether gunr is in a meeting or not?
 
really need to build "isgunrinameetingrightnow.com"
I just need to learn the Office 356 api
 
@gunr2171 is that a new version?
 
of?
 
Office
 
it's the online subscription version. my work uses it
 
8:37 PM
> Office 356
 
latest desktop version is 2016
oh....
 
user4639281
365
 
i'm dyslexic
 
@gunr2171 really?
 
no officially, I just swap words and numbers sometimes
 
user4639281
8:41 PM
Interestingly... there are a bunch of posts in the undelete queue (10k+ tools) that were deleted from that list @Sot
 
You mean letters and numbers, right?
 
user4639281
@Compass No, he swaps whole words
 
You had job 1!
 
You 1 job had?
 
user4639281
Translation: No you're analog!
 
8:45 PM
The fear of getting downvoted for writing an answer to Academia.SE owo
Spoilers, I'm not an academic =w=
 
@Tunaki Yeah no one checks that anymore : )
@NobodyNada no batch for deletion, still need to do that...
 
JAL
@SotiriosDelimanolis I added an additional comment to that meta question, if you don't feel like it's constructive, I'm happy to delete:
@Andremoniy if you see that many of the questions that you're answering are being closed as duplicates, maybe you should spend more time evaluating if questions are duplicates before answering them. — JAL 1 min ago
 
Savage.
 
Hello @JAL!
 
JAL
@NobodyNada o/
 
user4639281
8:54 PM
@JAL I think that user doesn't understand / agree with the common definition of a duplicate. They seem to think that questions must be literally the exact same text to be a duplicate.
 
@JAL A bit harsh though.
 
That is my feeling with a lot of people, unfortunately
we were talking about another yesterday with hovercraft
 
user4639281
Alright, this is getting a too user focused, lets move on to a different topic
 
Let's talk about hairballs!
 
JAL
8:57 PM
we're supposed to get a good amount of snow tonight in NYC
 
I disagree. I want to talk about what we want to talk about.
 
JAL
6-10 inches tonight
 
What if, instead of snow, it were hairballs?
 
JAL
gross
 
We've had so much snow this year here in Portland
 
8:58 PM
Send me snow.
I want to work from home on a weekday.
 
It's weird, because we rarely get snow here. Usually we get 1 or 2 light dustings each year, and 3 out of 4 years we have a couple inches.
This year, we've had like 6 snow events
And all the non-homeschoolers are in school until almost July
 
JAL
crazy
 
I dunno, is that a signature or spam?
 
One of the hottest winter here.
 
@Compass I think a signature
 
9:00 PM
70 degrees today
 
Leaving a comment...
 
30 degrees tomorrow =w=
 
JAL
Also weird, 62 F today, 15 F with snow tomorrow
 
I, for one, would like to experience -40 degrees.
at some point, maybe for a few minutes.
 
9:02 PM
@JAL giggity
 
JAL
lol
 
@Compass Kelvin or Rankine?
Or Réaumur?
 
-40K
 
@Tunaki Not even 3hrs and already dupe of new canonical.
ok 4 hours
 
JAL
Welcome @Sneak!
 
9:07 PM
wow that canonical answer's title though owo
 
user5890979
@Jal Hey! Thank you, how does the bots work? :)
 
JAL
Generally, this room is for 3k+ users to vote to close, reopen, or delete questions. Feel free to get a feel about what we do here. If you have a question that you feel is off-topic and needs to be closed quick, feel free to request a
 
what about booleans which are initialized to false?
 
JAL
and check out the FAQ: socvr.org
@Sneak the bots are in SOBotics
 
@SotiriosDelimanolis awesome!
or not I mean
 
9:08 PM
@Sneak We have several bots running in here though; see What are all those bots doing here?
 
well at least there is something to close themt o
 
user5890979
@NobodyNada Thank you! I will check it out, alot to learn now :) haha
 
Speaking of bots, is there a decision on FireAlarm?
 
This is a room where a gang of unlikely allies, including flower, fishes, and felines, combat the injustices of pointing null pointer exception questions to the null pointer accepted canonical question.
4
What did I just write.
 
JAL
Don't forget a floating pink head
 
9:10 PM
A wat.
 
user5890979
haha
 
also, "flowers, fish, and felines"
 
There's another cat?
 
<--
 
-->
 
9:11 PM
FISHES
is fishes the plural of fish? OH WELL. this isn't English.SE!
 
@NobodyNada I thought you hit a somewhat blocking bug, is it resolved?
 
@Tunaki Yeah; that's fixed now
 
oh great
Well I don't see any issue with it running here. The testing facility was more to fix bugs that could have appeared (like that one :D). ROs?
 
If it's posting too many messages, let me know and I'll adjust the threshold
 
Seems like they are all slacking.
So go ahead :)
 
9:15 PM
really? wow, thanks!
 
JAL
🎉 Congrats!
 
It's updating and it should join this room in ~3-5 minutes
 
Alright!
I thought that was blacklisted? ^ (the up vote 2 down vote favorite) cc @Nathan and stackoverflow.com/questions/18040030/…
 
\o/
 
9:23 PM
woot
 
@FireALarm privileges
sorry; accidentally killed it from the terminal
 
@FireAlarm privileges
 
@NobodyNada You do not have any privileges.
@Console Given Owner privileges to NobodyNada.
 
@FireALarm privileges
 
9:25 PM
@NobodyNada You need the Owner privilege to run that command.
 
no I don't
 
FireAlarm, which is a bot that detects low-quality posts, is now running in this room. Read more on StackApps.
10
 
@FireAlarm reboot
 
@NobodyNada Rebooting...
 
@FireAlarm privileges
 
9:26 PM
@NobodyNada You need the Owner privilege to run that command.
 
ok; I'll have to fix that
 
hehe
 
The robot rebellion has started.
 
@FireAlarm privilege @PetterFriberg owner
sigh...it's crashy again
 
He does not accept an owner because he is a strong, independent bot.
 
9:29 PM
I'll put it back in the testing facility to see if I can figure out what's going on
 
Sure
 
Sorry about that; it was working fine
 
no one died, I consider that a success.
 
user4639281
@Compass Psh, I consider it a success if at least one person is still alive, namely me
 
Glass one molecule full kind of guy. I see.
 
9:35 PM
@NobodyNada yeah, we all say that. No worries.
@Tunaki we broke it within 10 minutes. Is that an new record?
 
:D
 
It's not a successful deployment if something doesn't go horribly wrong.
 
wait, what's it doing in here?
 
It never left.
 
9:37 PM
@FireAlarm privileges
 
@NobodyNada You need the Owner privilege to run that command.
 
It got aware of its existence.
 
well, I'm just going to let it keep running until it crashes again
let's see if it survives a reboot
@FireAlarm reboot
 
@NobodyNada Rebooting...
 
...Well then...I'm just going to write those crashes off as some form of unknown network weirdness.
 
9:40 PM
The flower effect.
 
@FireAlarm stop
It'll be back shortly
 
@NobodyNada Shutting down...
 
user4639281
 
user4639281
No one apparently.
 
@NobodyNada: The regex is anchored to the start of the post. (That answer started with a [ to make the link.) — Jon Ericson ♦ 47 secs ago
 
9:45 PM
ah
 
@Fire check privileges
 
@NobodyNada You need the Owner privilege to run that command.
 
I have the owner privilege, and I don't need any privileges to run that
 
@Fire check privileges
 
@rene Please enter a valid post ID or URL.
 
9:50 PM
oh...the check post command matches "privileges"
 
You are welcome
 
Try @Fire privileges
 
@fire privileges
 
@rene You do not have any privileges.
 
I'll kick you for that
3
 
9:51 PM
You can run all commands without needing privileges since you're a RO
 
I guessed so
 
ah, I had a condition backwards
public func missing(from required: Privileges) -> Privileges {
    return (isMod || isRO || id == 0) ? [] : privileges.subtracting(required)
}
should have been required.subtracting(privileges)
 
Installing update...
 
@rene thanks, will take a look
 
OK, thx
 
10:00 PM
@fire privileges
 
@NobodyNada You have the Owner privilege.
 
user4639281
@fire rene's privileges
 
@TinyGiant Unrecognized command rene's privileges; did you mean my privileges?
 
user4639281
no, I meant rene's
 
@FireAlarm update force
 
10:07 PM
Installing update...
 
made a change to the chat library
afk for lunch
 
@FireAlarm privilege @PetterFriberg owner
 
@NobodyNada I don't know that user.
 
yes you do
and...it's crashy. Seems like it's always crashy after an auto-update, but it works fine otherwise.
@FireAlarm privilege @PetterFriberg owner
try again
 
10:13 PM
waits for chat server to explode
 
Sam
In 3... 2... 1...
 
@FireAlarm privilege @PetterFriberg owner
 
@NobodyNada Given Owner privileges to Petter Friberg.
 
@FireAlarm privilege @AshishAhuja owner
 
10:14 PM
@NobodyNada Given Owner privileges to Ashish Ahuja.
 
They know what to do if stuff breaks
 
user4639281
Updated from 528c2bd to 528c2bd (fixed bug handling bug handling bug handling...).
 
There are probably other users who do, but they either are mods/ROs or I can't think of them off the top of my head
50 mins ago, by Tunaki
FireAlarm, which is a bot that detects low-quality posts, is now running in this room. Read more on StackApps.
 
@QPaysTaxes If you pull his finger, he emits a gas
 
10:25 PM
@TinyGiant I've noticed you've started reviewing! I'll update your session record.
 
user4639281
Oh yay, another review session started, I wonder what happened to the other three
 
Sam
I had to reboot
 
Is this a good question? I voted to close it and it turned out to be an audit: stackoverflow.com/questions/41982623/… that I failed.
 
user4639281
ahhhhh
 
@Lankymart I've noticed you've started reviewing! I'll update your session record.
 
Sam
10:28 PM
I'm currently looking into why it's still bugging out.
 
user4639281
@AdrianHHH Well, look at the answer
 
Hello everyone! (Sam's Backup Server)
 
user4639281
The answer provides references to exactly why that was that way
 
user4639281
That and the fact that it has an upvoted answer and no post there has been downvoted.
 
If looking at the answer was an important part of reviewing then the review would show the answer. It just showed me an awful question.
 
user4639281
10:29 PM
"Why X?" style questions are only POB if there is no objective way to determine that
 
user4639281
I don't see an awful question there
 
user4639281
I see a straight-forward question answered with references to authoritative documents.
 
I do. It says "I have no guess as to why it would be desirable for this function to have "C" rather than "C++" linkage."
 
@QPaysTaxes Yeah it has sense in question...
 
OK. I am not here to make a big fuss. I will move on.
 
10:32 PM
@rene I've noticed you've started reviewing! I'll update your session record.
 
Thanks @TinyGiant for your opinions.
 
Lankymart passed a audit!
 
@QPaysTaxes lol, your not the first one... obsolete or not constructive
 
@AdrianHHH I've noticed you've started reviewing! I'll update your session record.
@QPaysTaxes I've noticed you've started reviewing! I'll update your session record.
 
aah that does not really count... ; )
 
10:38 PM
@rene You've reviewed 40 posts today (of which 1 was an audit), thanks! The time between your first and last review today was 6 minutes and 18 seconds, averaging to a review every 9 seconds.
 
Is it okay to ask account related questions under Azure tags?
 
@hello I don't think so but you better check in the c# room or ask on meta instead. It might be that those better fit on Super User or WebApplications.se
 
@rene Thanks
 
np
 
AdrianHHH passed a audit!
Lankymart passed a audit!
 
10:45 PM
@Queen looks like the dupe is removed
 
Are questions about brute forcing a cipher acceptable topics for SO?
@QPaysTaxes they've posted code, that's not the issue...I'm more concerned about the subject matter
 
@QPaysTaxes Thanks
 
@Lankymart it is not up to us to decide if the OP is black hat or white hat
 
@QPaysTaxes hmm...not overly sure. stackoverflow.com/q/42122711/692942
 
10:52 PM
@Lankymart please un one-box that by adding some text after the link, or in front of it, a single . would even work, anything
 
@rene apologies, is that considered bad form?
 
Ceasar cypher is kids play.
 
@rene never heard of it if I'm honest.
 
@Lankymart yeah, kind-of. we don't want our script to be full of one-boxed questions. That is what we mean when we say that we don't want noisy formatting in our transcript
I bet you are
 
rene likes the room like his garden: in nice neat rows with fish buried underneath for fertilizer
Is this a question for SU? I can't tell if he needs help with an app he wrote or just his iPad
 

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