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@AshishAhujaツ rather too broad
 
probably a dupe some where...
 
@Vogel612 I wouldn't go with TB; that can be answered in a few lines I think
 
there's so many possible answers though.
none
 
Thanks ;)
 
4:08 PM
I'm out for today
 
Later
 
cya cv's
 
cya, dear votes of Jan
 
I mean, I'm out of votes, not out of here
 
4:10 PM
haha
 
no votes, no use, throw him out
 
lol
 
There has to be a dupe to this stackoverflow.com/q/39395820/5647260
 
@AndrewL. posted
 
@AndrewL. done
somebody even answered that -_-
a 60k user answering a dup
 
4:19 PM
Thanks @TylerH @ColdFire on mobile right now so it's hard to search for dupes
 
oki
 
@ColdFire only post not users in SOCVR
 
Hard to type too
 
o/ sup y'all
 
Needs one more delete vote
 
4:21 PM
@PetterFriberg yeah i know was just telling
 
Hiya first
 
not going a downvote spree for him
 
suh du
 
hiya Second
 
Can the OP still see his deleted post ?
 
4:21 PM
@NathanOliver o/
@ColdFire o/
 
@TylerH yes
 
Heya first
 
Bye guys, I'll get going.
 
Aloha First, Cya BR
 
@AndrewL. suh homie o/
 
4:22 PM
bye BR
 
@BhargavRao hi o/ bye \o
 
Bye @BhargavRao!
Only 17 cvs left. I can't afford to feed my addiction
 
@AndrewL. Yes and it is closed now.
 
Thanks
 
@NathanOliver mcve or no repro?
 
user4639281
4:32 PM
@PetterFriberg Psh, thinking I pay attention to bug reports and feature requests... checking it out now lol
 
@PetterFriberg Looks like no repo now. Works fine when I tested it.
 
SOCVR: Teaching you Java, one CV at a time
 
@TinyGiant Na I posted on the meta a comment, I want "New answer" notification in Nato : )
 
user4639281
Ohhhh, yeah I saw that
 
4:33 PM
@NathanOliver Yeah I can't test it, but I could not she what was missing in mcve
 
user4639281
Unfortunately for me to set up a scraper and web socket is a ways down the road. It is possible, but isn't going to happen for a while
 
np, it would just be really nice..
 
user4639281
Once I do though, I will drop NATO all together and just make my own NATO so as to avoid rate limiting.
 
No repro? stackoverflow.com/q/39396070/5647260 Not sure if should close yet
 
@PetterFriberg It was missing originally but it was added. Putting the code in ideone works.
 
user4639281
4:35 PM
And make it available to users of all rep levels, not just 10k users
 
@TinyGiant that would be fantastic, meta smoke had a fire...something project on that...
 
Anyone using OSX and the latest chrome?
 
I'm not voting for now Nathan...
 
YES
no
i am using
 
@PetterFriberg No problem. It is not vote or I'll shoot you. You just don't get any waffles ;)
 
4:36 PM
if you mean OSX and chrome suck count me in
 
: ( no waffles...
 
btw what was the question NO
@PetterFriberg haha
 
@NathanOliver run the graveyard script then send some waffles
 
Looking to see if anyone could repro here
 
4:38 PM
ooh yeah : )
 
i see
 
I have chrome but I do not/will not own a mac
 
i have both but cant repro that
 
I babysat a friend's Mac one summer. That damn thing peed everywhere. Never again!
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4:40 PM
Who ever have some time take a look at the requests free waffles from Nathan
 
lol
 
@Louis Babysitting windows is even more hellish, you should see what it can do with it's claws!
 
someone thinks SO is a person stackoverflow.com/questions/39396271/…
 
It is a group think after all ...
 
All for One, One for All
 
4:45 PM
Much better sounding than "mob mentality"
TIL the musketeers were just a mob
 
invokes Godwin's law just to demonstrate that lack of groupthink isn't necessarily good
 
how does invoking godwin's law demonstrate that?
 
Hitler wasn't a groupthinker yet he was evil
 
@Rizier123 20K delete : (
 
@JanDvorak he wasn't evil because he was a groupthinker, though
 
4:48 PM
> "How do I pour 10 liters of water into a 1 liter cup?" You don't. You get a 10 liter cup instead.
Honestly the best comment I've seen
 
@PetterFriberg Just don't look at the first revision!
 
@JanDvorak do we really need to have that discussion here? cc @TylerH
 
@AndrewL. Or you just keep pouring and leave the mess for the janitor to pick up ;)
 
I have never enough of these darn k's
 
Or that ;)
 
4:49 PM
figuratively evaporates
 
Please consider re-opening this question. Its on an area which we find it difficult to find experienced engineers: stackoverflow.com/questions/375913/…
 
@Sampath why?, it seems like a clear tool request?
 
It's off-topic because it's asking for an off site resource @Sampath
 
@Sampath Sorry but that is off topic as it is a tool request and way too broad. It should not be reopened.
 
@rene No, we don't need to have that discussion here
 
4:50 PM
@Sampath it's square on the tool request
 
@NathanOliver > That's a big cup! Can I get a coffee in that size please?
I can't edit on mobile!
Darn mobile chat
 
A 10L cup?
lol
 
@NathanOliver Yeah, one of those "big gulps".
 
I have a 1/2 gallon cup at home
It is nice for summer cocktails. Plenty of room for ice
 
It's been a while since I've been to the movies. I would not be surprised if they offered customers to buy a whole barrel of soda by now, delivered by mule.
 
4:52 PM
Lol
 
@Louis Soda fountain integrated in the seats.
 
@Louis if by mule you mean patron, they already do that
 
@Louis I think they just feed it in intravenously now.
 
I'm already behind the times. :(
 
@Braiam patron? Or Patrón?
 
4:54 PM
> patron n.: a customer, especially a regular one, of a store, restaurant, or theater.
 
For those of us who are new to performance optimization and profiling, finding tools is as hard as finding information on profiling. :( It would be nothing to an expert, but please look at it from the perspective of someone new. Since, performance optimization is a niche topic, newcomers always struggle with tools, techniques, etc.
 
@Braiam yes, of course. Not the tequila.
 
@Sampath That it is tough for a newcomer but easy for an expert is completely besides the point. The community on this site has decided that they do not want to curate recommendation questions like the one you want reopened.
 
@Sampath There is a site dedicated to that now. Check out this
 
@Sampath SO is simply not the place for those kind of questions
 
4:56 PM
wow another bug marked as wont fix thanks google
 
@Sampath suppose it is reopened what are you going to do with it?
 
you can do everything to mess our apps
 
@NathanOliver Thank you very much. I did not know of the 'Software Recommendations' site. I will try it.
 
No problem.
 
@Sampath be careful of what you ask in SR, the question that you want reopened as is will be closed there too
 
4:58 PM
@rene I hope it it were open more experience programmers will share their experience on the tools.
 
Seems like we should have one "anything goes" site
ask any crappy question about programming, it won't be closed
 
@TylerH Ask.com?
 
@NathanOliver with the same SE network account
 
Ah. YahooAnswers.SE ;)
 
quora.stackexchange.com?
 
5:00 PM
@TylerH we have that... SO question that becomes popular
 
@Sampath that is not a good reason for me to re-open it. It has enough answers to get and idea where to look for.
 
@TylerH I agree, that a question regarding tools should be on a Stack site for tools, but there isn't one. And the questions regarding programming related questions need help too.
 
@Sampath there is a site for software recommendations... you were linked to it just now...
 
@rene Thanks for considering my request.
 
5:04 PM
@Braiam ha ha ha... brb crying now
 
@Sampath np we are happy that you asked, unfortunately/fortunately we need to follow SO ruels
 
@Braiam Yes. Got it. Thank you. I didn't knew of it.
@PetterFriberg Agree.
 
@Sampath we are bound by SO policy
 
@Sampath tool request has also a very direct problem of attracting spam answers
 
Those damn "ruels"!!!! shakes fist, sets spellchecker on fire
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5:05 PM
with cold
 
@Louis rulezzz
 
@Louis burn them all
 
@PetterFriberg Great. Now I've gone blind.
 
@Sampath remember that you can always ask about profiling your code with a specific tool where the answers can offer you a better one. So asking about valgrind to profile a library, failing to get the results you expect can lead to answers offering a better tool OR a deeper understanding of valgrind.
That is useful for you and future visitors. Asking for a tool to profile your code is only marginally useful given the complexity of the tool and the environment where they are used
 
@rene Thank you. I have already posted such a question. And someone pointed it out that asking about tools would close the question. Then only I noticed that some of these questions that I've been following (and found useful) were closed.
@rene Yes, it makes sense now.
 
5:11 PM
@Sampath We can't catch them all. In addition, it used to be acceptable to ask those here, but no longer
 
@Sampath if asked correctly these questions are on-topic as long as they are linked to a specific problem/goal. Maybe this answer of mine of MSO helps a bit
 
GoDaddy: DO NOT USE THIS TAG. It is due for removal
apparently still not clear -.-
 
Who the heck reads tag info?
 
@AndrewL. I guarantee you nobody reads the tag info
 
Commuting home cya
 
5:12 PM
@Machavity You're saying I'm a nobody? :(
@PetterFriberg Bye! And I read the tag info
 
@AndrewL. My apologies. I did not mean to compare you to nobody
 
Lol
 
@rene Thank you. Is there a method to check if my question attracts span, so I can avoid asking or, I can re-word the question not to attract spam?
 
@Sampath you can always try to post on meta first, asking if the wording of your question would be considered a tool request and if so how you can reword it so it becomes on-topic.
But make sure you are prepared to take criticism when posting, the meta crowd is not always as friendly as we are ... ;) Make sure to tag it correctly: meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/tagged/scope and you might want to lurk a bit how other question got asked
 
@rene Thank you. Criticism is fine, as long as they correct me. :)
 
5:23 PM
Wait, rene is saying we're friendly... that's a sign of the Apocalypse right?
 
@Machavity The third so we are okay as the first hasn't happened yet
 
@Sampath well, don't expect much feedback if you ask a crappy question on meta ... meta is murder after all...
 
We have a synchronized Apocalypse so they have to happen in order.
 
@Machavity You all are friendly.
@rene Got it Thanks a lot for help and guidance.
 
5:27 PM
you're welcome
:32736169 I don't think so
 
Cookies
 
@rene Yeah, I poked around and figured not
@FirstStep No need to comment. just flag
 
@FirstStep don't feed the trolls
 
Removed @Machavity @rene
 
good
 
5:33 PM
I flagged as abusive
 
That's all that's needed. Once it's dogpiled into the ground the system will flag the user
 
@Tunaki I've noticed you've started reviewing! I'll update your session record.
 
yes love I know...
 
haha
 
5:53 PM
Tunaki passed an audit!
 
6:03 PM
I have just found a query that gives me a list of duplicates to close....
Sick. Every questions in there is a dupe.
 
6:16 PM
Pretty much 14k questions to close...
 
oh my
 
@Tunaki Sick closey on em
 
my my
 
no idea dear
 
@rene I've noticed you've started reviewing! I'll update your session record.
rene passed an audit!
 
6:23 PM
17 closed just for today... I guess I'll need a whole year.. wooot
 
sounds like someone needs to run for mod
 
Hmm… I just realized a leave open vote in close vote queue on a proposed duplicate does not discard any duplicate votes and remove the question from the queue even if you have mjølnr...
 
Yeah, it doesn't @bwoebi. It would be nice to end the review when a gold badger chooses "leave open". But it might be complicated to implement.
 
@bwoebi Nope. Leave open just removes it from the queue if you have enough of them. It is not a reopen vote since it was never closed and it has to be closed for mjølnr to work
 
Oh you just had the PHP hammer! congrats! :)
 
6:26 PM
@Tunaki yeh, thanks… hence I wondered
 
Woot. Another hammer. Congrats
 
@rene You've reviewed 40 posts today (of which 1 was an audit), thanks! The time between your first and last review today was 7 minutes and 56 seconds, averaging to a review every 11 seconds.
 
@NathanOliver eih, yeah… doesn't discard it… but… why can't leave open with mjølnr not drop it out of the queue?
 
@bwoebi What is the votes on it are "too broad" and not dupe?
 
@Tunaki there was just dupe
 
6:32 PM
or some of them are flags as dupe, but some are close votes are "too broad"?
 
If there are other votes, obviously not.
 
Hmm
I don't think that was ever asked on Meta. At least I can't find anything related to that.
 
[though, I don't know why gold badge users can't mjølnr other close reasons too… perhaps let them count as three votes or so…]
 
@bwoebi YES PLEASE!
I want the same thing! :D
 
Are there any meta questions about that?
 
6:34 PM
Does that feature request already exist? I feel like it does
 
The last one, there kinda is.
 
link?
 
Ah marked complete. But only for duplicates.
 
There's a better one
 
6:36 PM
@Tunaki that's just a single age old comment by Shog…
 
Let's edit it back into the spotlight
 
That's the one I was thinking of
 
Yeah me too.
 
6:38 PM
yay Tuna, hunter of treasure
 
@Tunaki thanks… Though where I looked, I haven't see much thought of the SE team on that topic …
 
@bwoebi No... there wasn't much feedback on it...
 
@Tunaki and currently they're all far too busy with docs…
 
So we have , looks like very good questions there....
 
that typo
fp for typos?
 
6:46 PM
yeah
 
ok
 
7:34 PM
I've been curious, for a while now, why more Stack Exchange sites aren't listed in Off Topic -> Belongs On Another Site? I've run into some questions that belong on AskUbuntu or Unix&Linux but they aren't listed so I flag them as blatantly off-topic.
 
It only does the top 5
Good migrations are supposedly quite rare
 
`stackoverflow.com/questions/39398669/… am I a debugging hero or a masochist?
 
Well it is java so I go with masochist ;)
 
@NathanOliver oh that makes sense, you'd think that option would let you pick from all possible (or at least related) Stack Exchange sites.
 
@Compass there you have your dupe...
 
7:37 PM
ruined :(
 
@JonnyHenly For that you have to do a mod flag. The rational is migrations are hard so if we remove most of the targets then less garbage would be pushed to other sites.
 
@NathanOliver That makes complete sense. Thank you for explaining that to me.
 
No problem.
 
worthless to the site
 
^ troll since it an image?
 
7:51 PM
@Drew that will be roombad in 6 days, don't worry about it
 
I'm trying to not be too chaty on main but this really deserves a "Why not? What could it break"
 
haha
I can give you a star instead of a comment upvote.
Because that comment would probably get 5-ish upvotes
 
@Tunaki it won't be roomba'd
 
@Drew why not? not answered (in the SO sense), closed and score <= 0
 
7:55 PM
not the way it works
 
@Tunaki I think when they talk about the roomba, not answered, means no actual answers, not no answers above 0.
 
@NathanOliver no no, it means no upvoted answers :)
 
Really?
 
Yeah
For me, it fits all the items in RemoveAbandonedClosed
 
@Tunaki I think I owe you a review? Do you still have the link?
 
7:58 PM
@SotiriosDelimanolis huum, waitasec
 
@Tunaki Well look at that. For that one the do use the "unanswered" criteria.
 
@SotiriosDelimanolis haha well it was this one stackoverflow.com/questions/39369140/… looks like it was closed as "unclear" in the mean time.
 
Tuna, I forgot it was closed. Sorry. I was thinking of all the crap questions left open that just sit forever.
 
That works
 
Yeah :) (could use del votes, tomorrow for that for me :D)
@Drew All forgiven :)
 
8:03 PM
I am on my monthly shame the op crusade to get them to vote, delete, whatever.
Usually 1 in 10 responds. Most could care less.
 
Just don't forget to be nice with the criticism. No need to get suspended.
 
did you find any of the efforts in the answers below useful? — Drew 2 mins ago
 
Very nice
 
And while I am at it, doing a critique on answers, Bobby, you have 21 questions, only 2 accepted answers (green check marks), a lot of decent answers from others to you, and pretty much no comments from you to people that took the time to answer for you — Drew 18 hours ago
on a Java one yesterday ^
Not that I had an answer for him
 
That's a nice comment Drew.
You could add a link to meta.stackexchange.com/questions/5234/… while at it
 
8:09 PM
That is a good link. thx. bookmarked. I have seen it several times.
 
an event in 6 minutes
wuhuhuhuh
ALERT
Gather in the parking lot please
 
What to do with my few del votes are we still targetting godaddy or can I roam free?
 
@FirstStep Um event already started. ends in 46 minutes.
 
^ oh ..
I just saw the notification
 
8:14 PM
WAIT FOR ME "runs"
 
@PetterFriberg There is kali-linux showing its nose around...
 
ok... you have list, Burni?
 
no, if you want to go through them, you can use MagicTagReview, but feel free to wander on your own in the great realm of questions that should be deleted :D
 
I have so few votes still : (, not much use...
 
hell-o/
!!/notify 41570 stackoverflow.com-
 
8:22 PM
afk
 
@Tunaki nice find lots of jasper-reports question that needs delete : ), keep some del votes for me tomorrow..
 
@PetterFriberg will do :)
 
@Tuna stuff like this how many votes does it need? stackoverflow.com/questions/1782020/jasper-reporting-tutorial
 
@PetterFriberg hover the "delete link", it tells you how many votes are needed to delete the post
2 in this case
 
8:31 PM
aah nice only 3 votes but it has +17
> However, the number of delete votes required scales to the number of votes on the question and all its answers
 
@dorukayhan But he says he does not want to match the leading 1 -- which seems different than the dupe candidate.
 
@BrockAdams Hi what an honor to have the stack apps king in chat, time for you to become moderator over there : )
 
:D
 
@PetterFriberg No real need. The existing 1.5 moderators seem to handle the existing, very light, load in a timely-ish manner.
 
well you do a great job, thanks
 
8:36 PM
You're welcome.
 
What have you found is the best way to tell a user that an obvious dupe shouldn't be answered?
 
2 messages moved to Trash can
Ups I selected one more. Oh well, you won't be alone in there then :)
@SotiriosDelimanolis Linking to the FAQ
Doesn't work that well, but eh, it's as 'official' as it gets
 
can i have a reason for not allowing links to known (spammer|abuser)s' accounts?
 
@dorukayhan because they like it, just like commenting on their posts
 
@SotiriosDelimanolis darn, 102k rep and still answering dupes
 
8:48 PM
@SotiriosDelimanolis related q&A on English Meta. Bottom line: FAQ says don't do it and such answers are harmful because they stop the Roomba from taking out the trash.
 
imgur.com/1fSazuV HOW IS THIS EVEN POSSIBLE
 
my first tag is burninate-request? oh my....
night all
 
night
 
9:16 PM
Night fish!
Dangit queen!
 
9:41 PM
@Machavity MCVE*
 
10:03 PM
is there an se site where a question like this is a good fit?
 
maaayybe super user
is there a diy yet?
 
hardware recs springs to mind, though that might be off-topic since there's a definite buy involved already
 
@FélixGagnon-Grenier Home Improvement
 
@Braiam lovely :)
 
10:12 PM
I have translated "Naked girls"
 
> deleted 5 minutes after being reported
@StackOverflow
 
what do we do with this tumbleweed debris stackoverflow.com/q/39398524 ?
I guess let it die in 30 days
 
10:27 PM
It is so annoying that you get kicked out of editing when someone else submits an edit! :/
 
@Rizier123 solution: don't edit anything
 
@Braiam It really discourages you from editing, especially when you make bigger edits. You can't even copy the edit to save it.
I already edited this question: stackoverflow.com/q/39401006/3933332 twice and I got kicked out of editing TWICE! No I will not try it anymore. (But the question is pretty good. It shows some effort and OP shows where he is stuck; Don't know why people vtc this)
 
inb4 @Rizier123 's comment asking to get off its lawn so it can quietly edit the question
 
I snuck in an edit Riz :p
 
cheater :P
 
10:43 PM
he got worn out and is probably making a poptart. It is all yours now
 
Nope I won't try it again just to fail again.
 
If it gets upvoted and you made more than 240 char change, ya ought to get 0.1 rep
 
11:04 PM
> Please don't attempt to circumvent the rules by posting non-code to supplement the JSFiddle link. Post your code here
Is that OK?
 
11:37 PM
^^Yes, I know I know it's a reopen-pls, who would thought that this would ever happen?
 
Is this respectful discourse on my part? See comments: stackoverflow.com/a/39401612/5647260
Also NAA ^
Welp, deleted
 
user4639281
11:53 PM
@AndrewL. Technically, that was an answer
 
user4639281
Just a useless one
 
meeh F5 resolves all problems : )
@Rizier123 arrg run for cover...
well I run to bed cya all
 
user4639281
@Rizier123 Omg, I just reopen voted a PHP question, I feel dirty
6
 
I don't have any cvs left but
 
@TinyGiant That is how you auto detect robo-reviewing, if they reopen a PHP question :P
 
11:57 PM
@TinyGiant No it wasn't. It just stated it worked and asked a question...
But as for the comments, was it the right thing to do?
 
I think you went overboard on that one Andrew
 

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