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2:00 PM
@TylerH My school tried to block images once, I made a complain because they were blocking a programing site, and teachers referenced to that site
 
@Yvette maybe you want to ignore that particular question for a few hours and get back tomorrow. The urge to reply immediately increases the stress; postponing it is less than ideal (I found in the fast that these things crept into my dreams at night etc) but might still alleviate the problem a little bit
 
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@tripleee I'm having a break from the site.
 
This should have get burninated ages ago! I was about to post a request too but then found this post. — Lundin 53 secs ago
 
@Yvette good, I think that's the way to go
 
user3956566
I attract a lot of haters, it's my personality, what happens online is a reflection of what happens in real life.
 
user3956566
2:03 PM
So I'm doing something wrong and it's not going to change after half a century, or I'd have figured it out and changed it
 
user3956566
bye for while.
 
user3956566
\o
 
@Yvette Bye, \o
 
@Yvette I don't think you are doing anything wrong
 
@Kyll oh my. That fits.
 
2:04 PM
@ryanyuyu Do you also have a weird voice with a very strong Boston accent?!
 
No
 
Oh, you're fine then.
 
My accent is super flexible. Right now it's pseudo-Southern.
 
My accent is not Boston
I pronounce R's
 
Bastun?
 
2:06 PM
@gunr2171 You ain't ponouncing any 's from what I head
 
:|
 
Bye @yvette o/
 
Speaking of pronouncing things, try to say "How'll Hal's owl howl"?
 
@Kyll from what your head ?:x
 
meanwhile, at english.SE
 
2:09 PM
@kayess get it? no r's.
 
yo gunnL (if we just don't pronounce R's)
 
the Boston accent is to not pronounce any R's and over-pronounce A's
 
Let's be real, even English.SE is really ELL because English is that complicated.
 
@ryanyuyu but but but.... there must be something ?
 
so it would be said "gun-nAA"
 
2:10 PM
gun-NAA
4
 
@kayess yes
 
^^ amazing.
 
"pAAk tha cAA in the sammAA"
@kayess yes
 
@gunr2171 What about SOCVR spelled entirely?
 
SOCVAH
 
2:12 PM
pretty much
 
This is all the info you need to know: google.com/…
 
@Kyll We're the "SO close" vote reviewers. We never quite get it all the way
 
those text (non phonic) puns tho
 
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@Yvette I did warn you
 
user4639281
Outside perception counts as 75% of an effort's success rate
 
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2:21 PM
Gotta know when to hold em, and when to fold em
 
@TinyGiant Funny to see you saying that
 
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@Kyll I mostly choose not to
 
Q: should I always need to manually type the reason or there is some magical incantation for that?
 
@Enzokie When you get to 3k and gain votes the script can pick them up and pre-fill the form
@Tunaki ^^ ^^^ ^^^^
 
ah awesome :D
 
2:26 PM
@Queen k
@Queen k
 
So apparently users found an inaccurate and silly script way to find out who downvoted them and now people are using it to moan at voters
 
@AlexanderO'Mara Hahahahaha didn't remember that XKCD
 
should be blacklisted or what can we do to stop this from happening?
Yvette's question is featured now
on meta ^
 
@tripleee cry in a corner...
 
@Braiam are you saying blacklisting the tag won't help, or should not be done?
 
2:40 PM
@tripleee if the blacklist isn't of interest, it won't happen in first place...
my jab is that there's little interest on such issues
 
@Tunaki Thanks for review!
 
Is this spam?
 
@Gothdo self-disclosed: "visit my blog" so IMO, not spam
 
Still he should've included details in the post itself
 
@AshishAhujaツ err... that's enough to be not spam?
> buy viagra @ my store!
 
2:42 PM
@AshishAhujaツ Self-disclosure is not everything. If its only purpose is to promote something, then it's spam.
 
"visit my blog" counts as disclosure. But yes, remove, and if he persists, flag
 
@Braiam IMO, yes if the link is somehow related to the q.
> Exists only to promote a product or service, does not disclose the author's affiliation.
^ that is the definition
clearly mentions affiliation
 
Do the mods actually follow the definition to the letter?
 
@JanDvorak no
> the use of electronic messaging systems to send an unsolicited message
 
Good. Because that would be terrible.
 
2:45 PM
^ that's how I use it in my inbox
 
@SmokeDetector wat?
 
:32545519 @tuna got a better title?
 
@Kyll It's definitely one of the more useful ones.
 
wait, tuna knows C++?
 
it's generally safe to assume Tuna knows <language> until proven otherwise
 
2:50 PM
Should I rep-hunt, or rep-whore?
 
so Tuna knows Klingon?
@JanDvorak well seeing one of those phrases has been retired and should not be used anymore...
 
@gunr2171 meh...
 
@Braiam elaborate.
 
meh?
 
OK... should I rep-hunt, or rep-hunt without consideration for site quality?
 
2:52 PM
@JanDvorak This choice seems abundantly clear ;)
 
@undo bah?
 
I ... guess so.
 
@Braiam You just replied to a well-received announcement of retiring a fairly nasty term, and eventually treating it as abuse, with "meh".
There are a lot of ways to interpret that.
 
@undo did he?
He said "bah", not "meh". Gunr said "meh".
... should I take a mandatory break?
 
nah, just read the transcript ;)
 
2:56 PM
Oops, I missed that one :-/
 
Chat is hard. All that asynchronous stuff, combined with the shortcuts one's brain tends to take leads to stuff getting hidden in plain sight. It's scary.
 
@gunr2171 Someone needs to userscript this
 
yep
 
@gunr2171 No circle found, got confused
 
2:58 PM
I'd love having those arrows in the sidebar.
 
@gunr2171 I should make a userscript painting those arrows. I already have a script to colorize chat by users, but faux-freehand red arrows would be fun to draw
 
@undo For replies?
 
Aye
 
"I already have a script to colorize chat by users" GIVE ME
 
That sounds like the kind of stupid thing I would enjoy doing a lot
 
@JanDvorak How does that work?
 
ah, sweet! thanks!
 
Oh, doesn't work with my theme
 
@Ferrybig yeah, I already put in a request to have it unblocked
makes sense for imgur to be blocked, but i.stack.imgur is a totally separate domain
 
If you have some other script setting the colors, one would need to tweak the CSS priorities.
@TylerH not "totally separate"
 
3:01 PM
Also might be painful on a dark background
 
@gunr2171 (my issue is with already-uploaded images that I can't see)
 
@JanDvorak Theoretically, couldn't you just use a stretchable image?
 
@JanDvorak well, yes, it's a subdomain, but that's not what I mean
 
@JanDvorak so you know, that added another 100mb of ram for the chat tab and slowed everything down
 
what I mean is it's a dedicated subdomain entirely managed by SO and policed pretty strictly
 
3:01 PM
On iOS, there are 'sliceable' images where you can scale them in any direction, and only the middle part gets stretched. Could work for arrows.
 
@Kyll I'd have to detect a dark scheme and choose a different palette in that case. Link to said dark scheme?
 
though I wonder if I can change the dns for that domain...
 
@JanDvorak Hold on, twerking (github.com/StylishThemes/StackOverflow-Dark)
 
afk for a bit
 
@Kyll oh god, misread that as "hold on, twerking"
 
3:03 PM
@gunr2171 Chrome has some weird memory allocation policies, but if you want a CPU-friendly version (it did run on my toaster), dig up in the history
 
@TylerH I'm buying
 
ok, I'll try later
 
@undo My idea was to toss them on a full-screen canvas
but yes, there probably would be issues with that...
 
@Kyll that's my ideal happy hour right there
 
@JanDvorak Mainly when chat moves yeah
@TylerH Haha, too bad you're on the other side of the world
Drinks would be on me
@JanDvorak Since distance between messages don't change, what about a simple transparent image / canvas stretched to go up to the other message above, anchored to the reply?
Could be done with a bit of JS and some CSS
 
3:07 PM
@Kyll sounds good. It also means it gets autotrashed when the relevant message does.
The distance can change, though. Message migrations, regular 2-minute edits
 
@JanDvorak Yeah but not if the reply target is...
@JanDvorak Yeah, so would have to register all linked messages and check for when they're modified
 
@Kyll depends on what you attach it to
 
@JanDvorak Ah, indeed
With just a small CSS offset the image could be in the sidebar too
 
I already have a mutation observer attached to the page. I could attach another one. Or, I could do some shenanigans to have multiple of my userscripts use the same one.
 
@Tiny Perfect timing. Wacky userscript discussion!
 
3:10 PM
Just a general reminder about being careful with the SD coffee command
 
> Ne pourez pas dans l'area de oolalala
HAHAHAHAHA
cc @Tuna
 
translate: Ne pourez pas dans l'area de oolalala
(from French) Not can not in the area of oolalala
 
@JanDvorak I've been thinking for a while about making a userscript that would provide a bunch of hooks and useful stuff... Defining some SOCVR namespace and letting it be used by other scripts
 
hah
 
@undo A very rough, weird and funny sounding translation of the above in English yeah
 
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3:12 PM
@Kyll wazzat?
 
@TinyGiant Show arrows from a reply to its target in chat, in the sidebar
 
back
 
front
 
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left
 
@NathanOliver wb
 
3:13 PM
ty
 
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@Kyll possible, though any solution is going to have a high overhead.
 
user4639281
@Jan no need for a mutation observer, listen for the chat events
 
@TinyGiant Not necessarily
 
Tell me about them
 
user4639281
looks at chat flags, shakes head
 
3:14 PM
@Kyll World Building, or Weber?
 
CHAT.addEventHandlerHook(({event_type, time_stamp, message_id}) => { /* Do stuff */ })
 
hehe
 
user4639281
@JanDvorak I don't know if you're being facetious or not, but whenever a new message is posted or edited, an AJAX event happens. Hack it up and make something work.
 
took forever to format
 
Thanks. Is it documented somewhere?
 
3:16 PM
@JanDvorak Hahahahahahahahahhaa
No.
 
user4639281
Mutation observer is just going to crash your window
 
@TinyGiant ?
 
user4639281
Too many mutations
 
@TinyGiant Not if you simply anchor an SVG image to each reply / reply target, stretching and pointing it to the other
 
user4639281
Wait.... we just want a way to get to the response from the target?
 
user4639281
3:17 PM
What if you have 50 responses to one target?
 
A smart SVG image can even be resized unevenly. I like that.
 
@TinyGiant Many, many arrows
 
@TinyGiant then it'll render 50 arrows
 
@QPaysTaxes Meh, not a typo IMHO
 
user4639281
@Kyll You would basically have a wiring diagram
 
3:18 PM
@TinyGiant Doesn't it sound like fun?
 
user4639281
Lol
 
user4639281
so do we need lines between posts, or just pointers?
 
I'd like to make something like Github's network graph
 
@TinyGiant Arrows in the sidebar
 
user4639281
@Kyll mock up?
 
3:19 PM
@TinyGiant On it.
 
By "in the sidebar", do y'all mean "between the sidebar and the mainbar"?
 
user4639281
You makez image, I makez script
 
I thot I makez script, but go ahed
 
user4639281
lol
 
user4639281
It's easier for me to write it than to explain how to write it
 
3:21 PM
> It was difficult to write, it should be difficult to read
 
Turns out I'm back at mock-ups. Brace yourselves!
 
lol
 
@Kyll Brace your slaves :D
 
@QPaysTaxes They always get notified.
 
3:22 PM
Not sure about the location of the arrows
 
@Kyll put them on the right side, there's more space there
 
@QPaysTaxes :D
@JanDvorak grumbles
On it
 
@Kyll You need to add at least 19 more arrows to that pic.
 
@QPaysTaxes semitransparent?
 
Far right?
Mh
Or just at the end of the message?
 
3:24 PM
@Kyll how come your firefox doesn't have tabs in the same row as the window control buttons?
 
user4639281
@Kyll So we do want the lines eh? Do we care if it makes stuff unreadable?
 
They're not slanted, either
I like your choice of extensions, though
 
@JanDvorak Uh?
 
user4639281
@Kyll how does the dark script work on your firefox?
 
@TinyGiant Stylish
Pretty dang useful
 
user4639281
3:26 PM
Ahhh
 
(Undo be "crap, set fire to SOCVR again")
 
arrows everywhere
 
lol
flags everywhere
 
user4639281
I don't know how I'm going to make the freehand arrows look like they are free hand
 
3:28 PM
@JanDvorak Ew Pocket!
=p
@JanDvorak Here be addons i.stack.imgur.com/ww4G8.png
 
user4639281
gotta get some work done
 
@Kyll What do you suggest to move URLs between firefox and android chrome?
 
@JanDvorak If you were using Android FF there'd be FF Sync
 
Way more crashes, too
 
3:31 PM
@Kyll thoughts on Evernote? Might try
 
Wallabag looks nice, not sure how good it is
@JanDvorak Meh
And what do you know, it's French
 
Why don't you like Pocket, though?
 
@JanDvorak Forced installation, closed-source software
Really hated it when it popped
 
Evernote is one that I've already seen someone use
 
whoa
throwback to the 90s
@Kyll forced installation? it's part of Firefox
 
3:33 PM
@Tunaki Can you replace the duplicate on this question with the one proposed in comments?
 
that's like saying you don't like CSS support being forced on you...
 
:32546439 k
 
@TylerH I don't like closed software in my OSS
 
@TylerH #useLess
 
@JanDvorak ew
sass if anything
but really just vanilla css
 
3:34 PM
Actually, #useSass
 
@SotiriosDelimanolis meh. you have a strong opinion on that one?
 
@Kyll but have you really got a need for pocket to be OSS?
 
@JanDvorak What was that about the window bar btw?
 
I mean, have you inspected every line of code in Firefox that is open source?
 
@TylerH Come on, you're using old arguments there
 
3:35 PM
@Tunaki No, I just like the JLS reference.
 
@Kyll Mine has tabs on the same row as the window buttons
 
there is a quote of JLS
@SotiriosDelimanolis yes that
 
everybody is a web dev i guess here
 
but since we are airing Pocket grievances, I don't like the one-click "add to pocket" button on the menu bar. I would prefer it to open a drop-down list to "add to", "remove from" or "open list"
@Kyll forgive me if I am, I don't discuss OSS ever really, so I don't know the "schtick"
seems like a relevant argument to me
 
@SotiriosDelimanolis or I can close this one as dupe of that one
 
3:37 PM
@TylerH It is. But at least I can have trust that others have read it, and are able to find security flaws or backdoors
 
define "web dev". "Speaks HTML and wrote a userscript"?
 
if it's really a principle thing then seems like you should just swallow it because it's an article skimmer... what's there to be concerned about
 
user4639281
I use vivaldi, I can change anything I don't like about it.
 
@ColdFire no lol, you mean familiar ;)
 
@QPaysTaxes Heartbleed yeah =/
 
3:37 PM
@Tunaki that too
 
@TinyGiant You and the other 12 users
;-)
 
user4639281
lol
 
knows web development language any
@Enzokie well except you
 
@TinyGiant Vivaldi unloads unfocused tabs if you have a toaster. not good.
 
@JanDvorak I don't get that reference
 
3:38 PM
can't tell it not to.
 
Or by toaster are you referring to Linux or whichever OS detecting a printer as an actual toaster
 
@TylerH toaster = really slow machine. In my case, a 5yo netbook
 
@QPaysTaxes yes, the only bug-free software is the software that hasn't been written down from your idea yet
@JanDvorak ah, aka a potato
 
Do you guys think this should be migrated to Programmers.SE?
 
but why would unloading a tab be bad? I actually prefer that Chrome doesn't load a tab you open until you select it
 
3:40 PM
firefox also doesnt load it
 
I guess Firefox might do that too but Firefox' default behavior is to switch to the new tab
 
@TylerH
 
@NathanOliver Yeah
 
which is annoying
brb
 
If a software have no bugs at all therefore it has no real feature.
 
3:42 PM
@Kyll I'm going to mod flag then. @ other "agree" with my comment. I really wish the OP was responsive. He could do it himself and save some time and effort.
 
I think I just cv-pls
 
Hey uh...how long does it usually take for a new tag's excerpt/wiki to get approved? Is the bar really high for reviewing them?
(Sorry for the off-topic question.)
 
not off-topic at all @Serlite :)
 
@Serlite 5k IIRC
@Serlite It's not off-topic, it's actually the perfect place to ask =p
 
3:51 PM
@Serlite It's 5k, but are you sure it will get approved?
change room name to SO meta chat
 
Thanks for the help! Ah...no, I guess I'm not sure. I'll just cross my fingers and wait, and hope someone suggests better content if mine is no good.
 
@Serlite What tag did you edit?
 
I made a new tag for (Unity3D shader language).
 
Got my approval vote, needs some more to get through.
But now people with enough rep can just click the link above and see if they concur :)
 
Yay, thanks! My first-ever tag edit, so I hope it goes well. =P
 
3:56 PM
This is a great game to play while you're drunk: kongregate.com/games/IcyLime/multitask-2
 

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