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12:00 AM
sudo kick Petter Friberg
 
lol I was expecting a Hiyyaaa. (this karate kick I remember well)
 
@Tunaki You mean that one: xkcd.com/149 ?
 
anyone else having issues with post autorendering?
 
Waffle
 
I'm writing an answer and it doesn't render for me
it stopped at a point, and now when I discard and paste again, there's nothing
 
12:05 AM
can't reproduce
 
@AndrasDeak Check that: imgur.com/52vaDy4
 
@Rizier123 those might be userscript/new UI stuff, I don't have any of those
@Tunaki thanks, that's enough for me
 
Okay, yeah it's from a userscript. I thought you may clicked on that.
 
it must be foxy being temperamental
 
12:31 AM
God night to all!
 
Good night!
 
night!
Going to sleep as well, cya o/
 
Good night.
 
@AndrasDeak Yes. Many new anwers to old questios are flag-worthy, because many of those questions are off-topic by current standards. I saw the answer first, flagged it, then addressed closing the question. Sometimes the answers are ok, so no flag for them, but I'll still close the off-topic question.
 
1:01 AM
@Mogsdad thanks
 
user3956566
@AndrasDeak if it were some fetishism mine would be guys :D
 
@MsYvette yeah that's what got me puzzled:)
but who knows, maybe girls like robot girls too
 
user3956566
@AndrasDeak mine's a girl cos I'm a girl
 
@MsYvette and the boys' are girls 'cause boys will be boys:D
 
user3956566
yeh, except the boys that have girl bots LOLOL
 
user3956566
1:04 AM
anyway Morning all!
 
:D
good night
 
user3956566
you're going??
 
yup:)
2 AM here
 
Good morning? What time is it for you?
 
user3956566
ah k night :D
 
1:05 AM
and I've been more chatty than called for all day, so good riddance
 
user3956566
well it's 5 past midday, but I only got up a short while ago
 
user3956566
nah chatty is good
 
user3956566
@zondo what time is it at the ends of the earth?
 
hey @zondo you used to not have a custom avatar, right?
anyway, bye bye
 
user3956566
yeh Andras, can you please customise yours? bye
 
1:08 AM
Yeah, I used to have a brown avatar.
 
@MsYvette nooo I like it. It's nice and green in the middle;)
and I don't know what I'd like to see in its stead
 
user3956566
green in the middle like a lettuce?
 
zondo had the same on github if I'm not mistaken
 
I have tried this one a couple times, but sometimes it shows up as a broken image, so I go back.
 
@MsYvette I guess...
 
1:08 AM
Yes, it's the same on github.
 
I've never had an avatar, it would be such a serious decision:P
maybe some day
\o
 
user3956566
what do you mean a broken image?
 
user3956566
I'm campaigning that all users without custom avatars lose 100 rep per day :D
 
It just shows up with a picture of some stock image split in half.
 
user3956566
that's weird, why would it do that?
 
1:11 AM
I guess SO doesn't like my avatar.
 
the default avatars always look like quilt patterns to me
 
I like quilt patterns. I might change my github avatar to the avatar I was given for SO :)
 
single color quilts are boring though :p
 
What do you mean single color? Are you leaving out white? White is my favorite color. (not)
 
yeah, needs moar colors
 
1:19 AM
Does my avatar have enough colors for you?
 
contrast is pretty low on it, i cant really tell what it is
 
This is what I did to create it: I installed compiz window manager, and said to put my workspaces in a cylinder instead of a cube. I then rotated the cylinder to reveal the Python background image. I took a screenshot, and set the screenshot as my background. I then rotated the cylinder again...and again...and again.
 
@MsYvette I have a custom avatar.
 
user3956566
@Drew I know I love yours.. a talking dog :D
 
my avatar is the result of way too many hours spent in inkscape ><
 
user3956566
1:24 AM
Yours is lovely cimm, even if it is petally incorrect you said it had too many petals??
 
most flowers have multiples of 3 or 4, so yeah. this one has 5. the previous version had 7
 
user3956566
I think of changing mine to one of my son and daughter.. as I have my daughter on the bot account and worry about favourtism.. mind you she would hit the roof if she knew I was using her pic for the bot acc.. she doesn't like me using it here.. but it's so cute :D
 
I have commented on that (the cuteness) to myself many times.
 
user3956566
:D
 
1:50 AM
I bet the 3,398 profile views are because of that picture :)
Now in my bar up top, my avatar just isn't showing up at all.
I made it up to page 2 in the month user reputation league!
 
user3956566
2:29 AM
@zondo that's a lot of profile views.. I thought it was cos I'm argumentative :D
 
user3956566
@zondo your bar up top? and congrats on the rep :D
 
I mean the bar with the notifications, reputation notifications, etc.
Thanks.
 
 
1 hour later…
user3956566
3:35 AM
@Drew csharp_batch44_20160226_1330.xlsx done
 
thx
 
Plop!
 
user3956566
\o
 
4:05 AM
@Tiny Could you also write a script (I think you can just rewrite a part of our CV Request Generator) for a request like this? ^^^ I think it would be useful.
 
looks like you've been counting the hours on that one ^^^ :p
 
let's not forget all the ones of ours too that got us our rep :p
 
Yeah, anyway, I have a folder of the bad questions which should be deleted in my bookmarks (don't have 20k; have to wait 2 days :( ).
 
It's a tough crowd. Nevermind me.
 
@SteinarLima dupe or MCVE or ?
 
^^no effort, do-my-homework-pls, no code
 
user3956566
no mvc
 
@MsYvette it has to be custom or Too Broad cuz there is nothing to debug ?
 
too broad should do imo
 
user3956566
4:18 AM
@Drew oh I misread it
 
user3956566
yep it's a gimme teh codez
 
user3956566
or unclear
 
do you guys have a template for how to ask for cvs here?
 
user3956566
yes a script
 
poor Chris Miller. Been waiting a year for a point. Now this.
 
user3956566
4:20 AM
 
user3956566
using tamper monkey
 
ty
yea, I have TamperMonkey installed
 
user3956566
under user scripts
 
user3956566
there's a few good scripts. I like the edit one.. I'm just having trouble finding all the links.. have too many bookmarked
 
user4639281
4:50 AM
@KevinGuan That will be part of a later version of the request generator.
 
@TinyGiant Cool :D
 
user3956566
 
user3956566
@TinyGiant are 'offensive' flags recorded against a person's profile for mods to see?
 
user4639281
@MsYvette yes
 
user3956566
would you like to read my post above ^^
 
user4639281
4:55 AM
> Besides, if the other user, the one you refer to as a troll, and was the downvoter,
 
user4639281
Should be:
 
user3956566
feel free to edit!
 
user4639281
> Besides, if the user you refer to as a troll was the downvoter,
 
@MsYvette it was an unfortunate thing that was unfolding last nite. Not fun to see.
 
user3956566
I get wordy
 
user3956566
4:56 AM
I saw it
 
user3956566
I believe
 
user4639281
Commas are good, but too many of them can be hard to read.
 
@MsYvette don't worry, you can't get more wordy than me
 
user3956566
it's ok to offer people to come here yes? even though it was a flaggy thing
 
user3956566
@Braiam is your debugger set to verbose also ? :D
 
4:57 AM
the pedantic flag is set on by default
 
user3956566
lol I love it and understand it!
 
user3956566
A question that may or may not be relevant to us here
 
user4639281
Looks good
 
user3956566
@TinyGiant you editing it or do yuo want me to?
 
user3956566
4:59 AM
hi @EdCottrell \o
 
user4639281
@MsYvette I'll let you do that as it is more of a stylistic change.
 
user3956566
@TinyGiant done!!!
 
user3956566
thank you for the proof reading
 
user4639281
np
 
user3956566
what say you of the tag question? ^^^
 
5:01 AM
they're a dime a dozen. Ignore it
 
user3956566
tag questions?
 
user4639281
Commented
 
user3956566
merci beaucoup
 
user3956566
/!! coffee
 
user3956566
how do I test if I am privileged?
 
5:09 AM
!!/amiprivileged
 
@Drew Yes, you are a privileged user.
 
user3956566
omg I am doing it all back to front
 
user3956566
!!/amiprivileged
 
@MsYvette Yes, you are a privileged user.
 
user3956566
!!/coffee
 
5:10 AM
@MsYvette brews coffee for @MsYvette
 
user3956566
thank you
 
!!/istheredietcokeinfridge
 
user3956566
why didn't smokey remove the post when I said postgone?
 
3 min diff > 2
 
user3956566
did it real quick Drew real quick
 
5:12 AM
at one point half a min ago it said 8 min vs 5 min
so > 2
 
user3956566
ah k, I will believe you
 
user4639281
I wonder if anyone actually uses the room list feature of the CV Request Generator....
 
user4639281
I'm just going to remove it for now, if anyone complains then I'll put it back in.
 
user4639281
99% of the time that there has been a problem with the script it was because someone was entering a reason into the room list.
 
5:44 AM
@SmokeDetector wafflez
still there
!!/coffee
 
@KevinGuan brews coffee for @KevinGuan
 
@HovercraftFullOfEels maybe Wheat can leave a classic comment
 
@TinyGiant Hmm...didn't try to use it. Because there's only one SOCVR and I don't have to...log my cv-pls anywhere.
 
@HovercraftFullOfEels I'll show ya later. You probably already saw one. Plus you're busy
 
user4639281
5:52 AM
@HovercraftFullOfEels I'm guessing he's referring to Mitch Wheat
 
Tiny you wanna see it ?
 
user4639281
I've seen many of them
 
user4639281
I've even flagged a couple.
 
lol
@TinyGiant concerning roomba, do you know if it applies to just those questions that have hit their first 9 day review (or first 30 day review) so to speak of conditions for auto-delete? Or is the condition checked everyday.
Hopefully that makes some sense
 
user4639281
@Drew The three scripts run on a schedule, if the post matches the criteria at the time the script runs, it is deleted.
 
6:01 AM
So one could quite clearly have a hay day with it. Is that allowed?
I know Shog made reference to it on some comment like Who is going to do that.
 
user4639281
What do you mean by have a hay day with it?
 
One could easily cause to happen 50 deletes a day. And there would be no time for anyone to react to it.
 
user4639281
Yeah no, if you can figure out a way to cause 50 posts in a day to meet the roomba criteria without requesting downvotes on them, no one is going to stop you.
 
I mean if it was done it good faith and all. Like, I reviewed them.
Poof 301am UTC gone
 
user4639281
Yup, or whenever the scripts run.
 
user4639281
6:05 AM
But remember that a question has to be closed for 9 days before it will meet the criteria
 
It's a cake walk to spot the potentials with a bot
 
user4639281
Not > 9 days old + closed
 
@MsYvette o/
 
Did you have a question?
 
6:09 AM
There are a few posts on it
 
Somewhere recently I read some commentary about people doing it for the simple sake that roomba picks it up. I can only imagine that Shog would not be pleased.
Maybe he would be pleased if effort and care was taken. Who knows.
 
user4639281
That was caused by downvote for roomba requests being submitted in this room.
 
oh
 
user4639281
As far as that goes, no downvote requests are allowed anywhere anymore.
 
6:18 AM
well yeah, of course.
 
user4639281
But if you're reviewing the post of your own accord and it just so happens that the review action causes the post to meet the roomba criteria, there's nothing wrong with that.
 
There is not any "it just so happens" about it.
So maybe I ought not to even think about it.
 
user4639281
The big thing is that there can't be any voting collusion about it.
 
There is none of that.
 
user4639281
Even we don't allow close vote requests on inactive old questions.
 
6:23 AM
It could get extended real quick and get out of control. For instance, Kevin wouldn't need to spook up 3 votes. He could receive a list for his tag daily and just make it happen on his own. Somehow I think the powers that be would not like that. It would be a s*** storm.
Who needs 10k rep. Got 150, good enough for me !
 
user4639281
Nothing they could do about it though.
 
user4639281
If you're not actually giving kevin the list, and he is finding the questions of his own accord, no harm done.
 
Yeah. I could say here's the software. Run it on your own accord. Review the questions :P I think they'd freak
must sleep. nite all.
 
user4639281
Night
 
7:44 AM
hello all
 
Any mod around?
@MadaraUchiha hey, can I have a minute of your time?
Or @bluefeet or @JonClements wow really didn't think i'd find 3 here :p
 
What's up?
 
Hey Job thanks for responding, I flagged a post for a mod over 24 hours ago, it is important to me and I really want someone to review it at least
Can you take a peek?
Job=Jon* obv
 
If it's in the queue it'll be handled - it's not quite 8am on a weekend day - not going to go check right now - sorry.
 
:)
:(
 
user3956566
8:28 AM
@EdCottrell no saying hello, sorry for the second ping!
 
user3956566
hi @JonClements \o
 
user3956566
hi all!
 
8:50 AM
hi @MsYvette o/ :p
 
user3956566
how do you feel being described as a god that can be bribed with dog treats? LOLOL
 
Well - neither is true - but it sounds poetic - so I'll go with it for now :p
 
user3956566
yes... poetic :D
 
@Idos take it you're not still around?
 
9:10 AM
You can't... you need to earn reputation by asking good questions and posting great answers. Ironic that your question needs to be on Meta Stack Overflow, yet you don't even have the reputation to post there. — cybermonkey 49 secs ago
 
@cybermonkey thanks - couldn't see anything practical that could be done with that - so it's deleted now
 
9:32 AM
@JonClements I'm around :p
 
The transcript reads like a cat and mouse game by people trying to get into contact with each other...
 
user3956566
marco polo
 
user3956566
why is @PraveenKumar making so many reports to smokey?
 
@MsYvette fine with me :)
 
user3956566
but they're not spam
 
9:36 AM
@MsYvette he isn't, he wanted to get notified if smokey reports
that is a feature
 
user3956566
ah k
 
And a pretty annoying one I guess...
 
user3956566
I didn't understand it
 
@SmokeDetector sd f
 
user3956566
if we all wanted to be notified it would be a problem
 
9:38 AM
@MsYvette me neither but that happens more often to me that I don't fully understand why people do the things they do
 
user3956566
we need to be mindful when sharing resources that it's a community and there's no need for one particular user to get notifications.
 
user3956566
People often don't look at their behavior from the outside
 
They are not annoying me or anyone else. They're free to use it.
 
user3956566
anyway, how are you rene?
 
I'm on my first coffee but I also have my laptop open diagnosing a production issue....
How are you doing downunder?
 
user3956566
9:45 AM
I'm going to watch a tv show with my Mum and work on a 2d unity game :D
 
Oh, that sounds cool
 
user3956566
:D
 
user3956566
nice to see you in a relatively quiet room
 
Yeah, traffic and attention rises
So this is back to a more manageable load
 
user3956566
the room's going well :D
 
user3956566
9:47 AM
a good crew here
 
It might be going to good in some sense
 
user3956566
are there problems?
 
Looks like we also get some more opposition
 
user3956566
oh on meta?
 
user3956566
yes must be very careful to be rigorous in our voting patterns
 
user3956566
9:49 AM
we could always design audits for the room users I guess
 
user3956566
there wlll always be an opposition to anything and everything, it's human nature
 
user3956566
hi @Sam \o
 
Sam
Hiya
 
user3956566
sorry I kepy missing you
 
Sam
Lol, np
 
user3956566
9:50 AM
I'll meet you in hats
 
@MsYvette I'm so much against that model, having worked for companies that think control works best.
@MsYvette I agree on that, we will deal with that
 
user3956566
I agree, I was thinking of a way to stop the haters
 
Yam
GraveRobber started 1.11.0 (debug).
 
@MsYvette I believe if we keep it transparent and open there is not much that can be held against us except disagreement on our approach
 
user3956566
@rene yes
 
Sam
9:52 AM
Hence the graveyard
 
user3956566
@rene most of us are so pedantic, I think we should be ok
 
@cybermonkey Post 1: That does not look like a valid post URL.
 
Sam
Speaking of the graveyard. @rene what are your thoughts on having a reopen graveyard?
 
user3956566
I am nto convinced that is spam... considering the question
 
@MsYvette if we all keep an eye on our new crowd and guide them with our rules we should be able to keep this on track
 
9:54 AM
since when couldn't we append reasons for reporting content to Smokey?
 
I think it never could?
 
user3956566
@rene yes. I speak up if I see something that I know is not liked.. and usually I've made similar mistakes, so it's not from a lofty height I preach
 
Sam
@cybermonkey Only Zephyr dose that
 
user3956566
Can I ask rene... if the post is removed we use postgone
 
@Sam Uh, not yet another room I hope? And what is that for?
 
user3956566
9:56 AM
when do we use 'gone'
 
If the user is also gone
 
hm, I thought I did it before. spam's gone now though
 
user3956566
that's what I thought
 
@MsYvette the postgone was added on request of the mods. They wanted to have easy access to user accounts that they still need to nuke
 
user3956566
there was some debate about it
 
user3956566
9:58 AM
can we pin a message for a couple of days about using postgone and not gone (except when user account is gone)?
 
Use sd postgone if only the post is deleted but not the user. Use sd gone if both post and user are nuked. When in doubt use sd postgone. This is to make the life of the mods watching this room easier.
 
user3956566
@rene and if it's not spam?
 
@MsYvette Not spam? Use sd f and sd remove-
 
user3956566
@rene can I bother you to pin that also?
 
@rene or sd remove- ?
 
user3956566
10:04 AM
thnx rene that will fix up any queries we had about this
 
@bummi it's attracted an NAA too
 
@Tushar better, tnx for keeping an eye on me
 
@cybermonkey I know, that's the way I found it, it will attract further if it does not get closed
 
No prob. As I said previously, nobody have to thank me :)
 
user3956566
thanks Tush :D
 
10:07 AM
Anyway, Welcome!
 
Plop!
 
Sam
@rene I think there was some discussion revolving around whether we should have a new graveyard for reopen reqs so we can more easily prove to certain users who view us as a "close happy bunch of users" that we indeed do process reopen reqs.
 
user3956566
and maybe a reopen script
 
Hey Kevin, Sam
 
@Sam hmm, I see
 
Sam
10:10 AM
Or maybe we should just include to the archiver.
@Tushar Hiya
 
Sam
Only 60 messages ._.
 
user3956566
@Sam I think that is better than being in multiple rooms at once
 
user3956566
that way we can say we deal with both
 
Sam
@MsYvette Agreed
 
10:13 AM
Let us think a bit about this before we change anything
 
Sam
Sure, just thought it would be good to bring it back up again.
 
user3956566
well we can't be held accountable for the fact the number of reopened posts has always been very low
 
user3956566
but we can show that we review things.
 
@MsYvette yeah, that would be the positive side of it. Noted. I'll give it some brain time
 
user3956566
ditto
 
user3956566
10:16 AM
if you ever need ideas or support with the room, please ask.
 
will do
 
^^^ Worst question of the week ^^^
 
Do we run a contest? Does the OP get a prize?
 
no contest. And the prize will be DVs and CVs.
 
That is not a fun competition then ;)
 
user3956566
10:31 AM
> So help me first person to answer this gets a black eye. – Ms Yvette just now
 
11:13 AM
Hiya o/
 
Hiya o/
 
11:25 AM
Hiya o/
 
Hiya o/
 
Hmm - this post is by a user with an offensive user name, is written in Chinese that
 
@WaiHaLee the commenter also seems to suggest this
 
sd remove- edited
 
@Tushar the note is still left there about "writing some more"
you might consider removing that as well:)
that's old
(just noting)
ah, I see, new answer to it
 
11:37 AM
yup
 
@AndrasDeak true. Thanks for commenting on the answer.
 
no prob
 
@Tushar not sure there
adding google translate is improving the post
 
But then we might see few more chinese answers from that user :(
 
It's moot because the answer is deleted now.
 
11:47 AM
@Tushar The translation isn't much more readable than the Chinese anyway.
 
postgone
 
What's there seems like a comment anyway.
 
That's how I read it too.
 
@rene I just saw your pinned message about gone and postgone. It looks like postgone isn't needed anymore
Feb 23 at 11:29, by Madara Uchiha
So I think we can get rid of postgone and just use gone.
It was introduced for Madara so that he could look at the chat history and destroy the users. But since then, metasmoke was updated to list all SO blaclisted users.
 
12:03 PM
@Tunaki Hmm...why didn't ProgramFox remove the postgone command?
 
Could still be useful in other context.
 
I really hope this isn't going to end-up in a confusing battle over what to use when
This my take on the issue: The feature was introduced for the mods. I have described how it should be used in that context. If the mods are confident that they don't need that service anymore from us because they get there info in a different way I'm happy to fallback to sd gone for spam or sd f / sd remove- for non-spam
@Tunaki can you elaborate in which context that might be?
@MadaraUchiha Can you confirm that postgone isn't needed for you (or any other mods for that matter)?
 
@rene postgone was initially for me to be able to look at the transcript and destroy users whose posts got spamnuked but didn't get destroyed.
I understand that there's a better alternative being developed on metasmoke
 
@rene It was more of a question really, I don't have examples.
 
12:26 PM
@Tunaki Ah, got it. - @ProgramFOX I think that we should put what Madara said into our commands wiki of Smokey anyway.
 
12:38 PM
@MadaraUchiha Ok, so until meta-smoke is ready with that feature we keep using postgone as is?
 
@rene That's my take. But do what works best for you. You're the main consumers of smokey, not me.
To me, smokey is a secondary (although very helpful) took to find spam
My main focus is flags
 
If you like it or not, we're in this together, we do what works for both of us. ;)
We keep going with postgone until metasmoke provides an alternative
 
sd remove- edited
 
12:53 PM
@rene Wait, Undo has already wrote that feature for Meta-Smoke after we sent the feature request.
 
^ Since when does this site exists?
 
long long time ago
 
Plop!
 

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