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2:00 PM
@gunr2171 Is spamming once not enough to go on the smokey blacklist then?
 
I think a helpful command like "Please be careful with linking to your own content on different sites, you don't want to be a spammer. You should be including the majority of the content here, and use the link only as a reference." would be better in place here
 
JAL
^
 
Maybe y'all are just nicer then me
 
the intention of the self answer was "hey look, I found this solution, let me write up a question that would fit".
 
Do we need to get a mod involved to undo the damage? The guy lost all of his rep.
 
2:01 PM
@gunr2171 Maybe then nuking both the question and answer out of low orbit with spam flags was a bit heavy too
 
@Magisch The problem of addressing something like this as spam is that the user has lost all his reputation now, for something that was not his intention
 
I'm going through his answers and cleaning up the formatting
 
I wouldn't be surprised if 2 confirmed spam flags would mean an auto answer ban
especially since both landed on like -9 before nukes
 
@Magisch I think it was yes.
@Magisch spam incurs a -1 also.
 
@gunr2171, why not notify user and moderator all for transparancy..
 
2:03 PM
custom flag on one of his posts or ping one in the chat?
 
@Magisch I know you might argue that the answer might be spam, but there is no way in hell the question was spam
 
or only user that he can flag for moderator?
 
@Magisch We can ask a 10k person to flag it for us, they should be able to see the deleted content
 
@gunr2171 Viewed from your angle, the answer might just have been a misplaced almost-link only (assuming the user had no idea we view this kind of content as spam here)
 
@gunr2171 pass a comment under his question... to tell him why nuked and how he can flag for moderator
 
2:05 PM
@PetterFriberg He cannot flag as moderator, he needs 15 rep for that...
 
aah ok, thanks , then better we flag... so if all ok, all ok, if not things can be reorganized : )
 
I'll flag it
 
@PetterFriberg moderators cannot change flags status, they need to contact stackexchange developers if they want to reverse what happened...
 
Custom flag text: "This user's question and self answer were nuked out of low orbit with spam flags, the answer deleted due to 6 spam flags. In hindsight it might not have been spam after all. Maybe the user just understands poorly how the self Q/A here works. What Im saying is the Q/A was most likely merely bad, not worth the low orbit spam nuke. Would appreciate if a mod could clear them and not make the user lose all of his rep over this."
Moderators can manually clean and change flag status IIRC
 
question was deleted
by author
well, there goes the nice comment I was writing
 
2:09 PM
Imagine what kind of image of SO that gives to him
He wants to post some useful QA
gets nuked and site banned within a minute
 
@Magisch yeah.... look what you did
 
!!/blame
 
@kayess It's JAL's fault.
 
If I believe, moderators can choose to not to apply a penalty to a helpful spam, while 6 spam flags are always with a penalty
 
so how about this @Magisch, next time, take a second to think if something is really spam
 
2:11 PM
@gunr2171 If that came from a 1 rep user with no other activity I would still nuke it as spam
 
well the truth is that it takes 6 flags... but be careful before reporting..
 
@gunr2171 It was spam according to stackoverflow promotion, but it was not his intention, a helpful comment would been more on his place
 
but the circumstances... make it seem less likely in this case
Its still a legit spam flag
the post does exist only to promote the link (you can reasonably assume)
it still may have been better to not nuke it with the big bomb
that is textbook abusive
 
don't edit please...
 
I like how the username matches
 
JAL
2:13 PM
@kayess hey!
 
@MadaraUchiha Can you look into a good solution for stackoverflow.com/questions/35653315 ? See the last amount of chat messages for context
 
@JAL hey!
 
Did someone custom flagged that previous post where the guy lost all his rep?
 
Yeah @Magisch did
 
6 mins ago, by Magisch
Custom flag text: "This user's question and self answer were nuked out of low orbit with spam flags, the answer deleted due to 6 spam flags. In hindsight it might not have been spam after all. Maybe the user just understands poorly how the self Q/A here works. What Im saying is the Q/A was most likely merely bad, not worth the low orbit spam nuke. Would appreciate if a mod could clear them and not make the user lose all of his rep over this."
 
2:15 PM
Awesome.
 
also Ed seems to be in chat....
 
@EdCottrell Can you maybe do something about that?
 
@Magisch What?
 
always best to let mods deal with problems with flags. You don't want to interrupt them with chat pings.
 
@gunr2171 :)
 
2:17 PM
We may have been overzealous
 
well, too late
 
@Magisch Yes but we only do that to unreged 1 rep users where it is blatant that they are spaming. If a user has history here then we need to give them the benefit of the doubt and at least comment to them to fix it first.
 
in using the low orbit spam nuke
 
@Magisch s/we/I
 
I goofed the hardest, but some more people also did
 
2:18 PM
@Magisch N/m, I see. That looks less like spam, more like excessive self-promotion. We'll handle.
 
@EdCottrell That guy lost all of his rep and probably got alot closer to a post ban and answer ban due to this
 
Guys... Give me a chance to see! LoL.
 
just me or this answer reads somewhat unconstructive meta.askubuntu.com/a/15083/169736?
 
@Magisch He got a ton of spam flags and got spam-blocked. Some of those flags were legit (the question that was literally nothing other than "my product is awesome"), but some were a bit harsh, so I cleared the latter.
 
Deleted.
 
2:23 PM
 
@EdCottrell Thanks for clearing that up :)
 
@Magisch n/p!
 
@Braiam not unconstructive. People disagree that the question was unclear
 
@Braiam He has an interesting way of expressing himself. It looks like he spotted you :)
 
@Tunaki exactly, but the way he does it seems distasteful
 
2:25 PM
nothing is distasteful when talking about flowers! just look at rene!
 
@Braiam I'm told the expression "butthurt" is offensive, so I'll refrain from using it
 
@Tunaki what did you decide on editing answers/ question with f**k words, anybody else knows the policy (my flag history, edited --> disputed, non edited --> approved)...
 
@Yam die
 
I just wanted a second unbiased opinion
 
@AndrasDeak You're doing a nice job of keeping it out of your language. It must be a strong temptation.
 
2:26 PM
@Braiam What is that answer even to
 
@PetterFriberg I quickly edited that one because I didn't spot at first the troll
 
Reads like passive agressive rant #192
 
@Magisch dunno
 
@Magisch exactly
 
2:26 PM
he might be right, I didn't even read his point
 
@PetterFriberg mistake from me
 
but it's awfully obnoxious
 
@Tunaki Ok, so the policy is not to edit?
 
Depends
 
lol, you are starting to sound like a moderator....
 
2:27 PM
Obvious troll -> nuke it
 
@zondo I'm a weak soul:D
 
Someone just complaining about something -> edit
 
if edit no abusive flag, correct..., hence you can not do both...
 
So the thing is: don't shoot first, assess.
 
but the trigger says "use first" :/
 
2:30 PM
@Tunaki Word!
 
Just like that spam Q/A that was nuked.
 
So @Braiam how did that 1.5-year-old question get closed? Someone flagged it as too broad?
 
@AndrasDeak ??? What question?
 
oh, sorry, the AU one
 
``
Dat bug.
 
2:33 PM
to which there is your friendly flowery user friend
 
You can't write in code the backslash
\ --> ``
 
this meta concerning this post
I know this is not our site so I'm just being curious
not questioning any moderation activity
 
Has anyone else noticed that?
 
@Tunaki escaped backslash?
`
^ that is code
`\``
 
Try to write "backtick backslash backtick"
 
2:34 PM
^ that's the source
 
@AndrasDeak it wasn't closed... I saw a new answer just commenting "Has anyone been able to get this working on Ubuntu 15.04?" and wondered what the question was about
 
@Tunaki that's syntax error...
 
i.e. the backslash character enclosed in backticks
 
ooh
 
How do you do it then?
 
2:35 PM
\ wut?
 
\
I see your problem
use code block...
 
yeah...
 
Doesn't work in comments though
 
@Braiam the non-meta was closed in the first place...
but nevermind, it's off-topic anyway here:)
 
@AndrasDeak O_O?
 
2:37 PM
@Braiam It all starts from here: stackoverflow.com/questions/35654347/…
 
But it dosn't seem to work...............
 
​\​
heh:D
 
The comment by Rad Lexus is nuts!
 
2:41 PM
erf.
LOL now ChrisF is testing also.
 
deleted...
 
We should add a pun to the title to bring it to the frontpage
 
Avoid the backlash of escaping things with \
you're talking about this, I hope:D
 
@tiny Looks like it needs something more than an include update. This regex enables the Magic Editor, but the widget doesn't show. (Probably different DOM elements.)
// @include /^https?:\/\/\w*.?(stackoverflow|stackexchange|serverfault|superuser|askubuntu|stackapps)\.com\/(questions|posts|review|tools)\/(?!tagged\/|new\/).*/
 
\
Ahhhhhhh
 
2:55 PM
@tiny Hmm. I grabbed the updated NATO script, and it all works. I'll push an update for the Magic Editor. BTW - colours look good.
 
JAL
Weird, I flagged this as NAA, it was marked as helpful, but the post wasn't deleted: stackoverflow.com/a/35654299/2415822
any idea why?
 
@JAL yes, deleted and undelted by owner: stackoverflow.com/posts/35654299/timeline
 
^^ That.
 
JAL
weird
why would the user undelete?
 
I dunno. To clear the flag? :D
 
JAL
2:57 PM
lol
i want my 1 rep back!
 
I'm out of flags. But voted to delete.
 
I would not call that NAA. It at least tells the OP what class they need. Yes it is bad/incomplete but IMHO it is an answer.
 
@Tunaki HOW does one run out of flags? I've only managed to max out once. Normally I can only hit 70-80 a day before I need to stop.
 
JAL
NATO bro
 
3:00 PM
@Mogsdad Really? I hit the cap every single day. NATO.
 
JAL
Could not be more of a duplicate, even the accepted answer is taken from one of the posts linked in the question
there are 4 dupes linked in the question, take your pick
 
@PraveenKumar, the mystery is solved \
 
JAL
most BS bounty award ever
 
@PetterFriberg Yes.
\ - Haa ha ha! :D
 
3:18 PM
Is there any sense to this ?
 
BURN IT
sd remove edited
... and he found the delete button
 
@Tunaki Finally!
 
JAL
screenshot for > 10k plebs?
 
sigh
 
3:25 PM
Not sure. How many cookies do I get?
 
@Tunaki None. You get a waffle.
 
JAL
@Tunaki 1 waffle with extra whipped cream
 
JAL
lol
thanks
 
3:26 PM
@PraveenKumar sigh
 
@Tunaki Gate last!
 
I'm sure he got it as well : )
 
JAL
I'm voting to close this question as primarily opinion-based because only Apple engineers who created the architecture of the String class can answer this question. — JAL 28 secs ago
 
^ CVd...
What about this: stackoverflow.com/q/10123887 Do we need to close it?
 
JAL
> active 2 years ago
leave it unless it gets bumped
 
3:30 PM
@JAL LoL... That 10k views guy who needed 30 more...
 
@tuna @tiny Magic™Editor 1.5.2.62 available; auto-update should pick it up. NOTE: Must execute AFTER NATO script.
 
thanks
 
@Mogsdad Yay!
 
@tiny The NATO script doesn't appear to get the ajax feeds for added comments, so if I want to make sure I don't add a redundant comment I still need to pop up the answer in another tab to check for comments.
 
Well that was rude.
 
3:41 PM
yeah, a little..
 
sd remove, deleted by owner.
 
: ), lets see...
 
user deleted
 
What do we do about questions written in Spanish such as Odoo Módulo plantear?
 
@zondo close as unclear
 
3:48 PM
@zondo VLQ or try to translate
 
@zondo he only wants a estimated of how much time is spent on a given task...
 
(it got a links answer 50min ago)
 
oh wow, all the moderators on the PT site have way more rep than Jon Skeet. Lowest is 15.9 million.
(yes, yes, I know, jk)
 
Whats funny is on your link the rep is xxx,x and if you do to the profile it is xxx.xxx
 
oh yeah, weird
 
3:56 PM
@gunr2171 Here is your chance to write a FR in Portuguese
 
@Braiam not to sound totally ignorant, but "close enough"
 
@gunr2171 I thought you needed 20 rep for the chat? Your chatbot Closey only has 15 rep
 
@gunr2171 when I find some portuguese in the street and talk to them, I will tell you how close you where ;)
 
@Tunaki I probably got confused that the link on his profile redirected to meta, where he only had 15
 
4:00 PM
Nite!
 
@Ferrybig closey has 31 rep. Plus, it broke the 20 rep mark, so we can add special permissions to the chat account so it can always talk even if it falls below 20
 
@Ferrybig oh, I see what you mean. I'll update my link.
done
I like how Closey has the Fanatic badge
 
4:15 PM
Did the outage break her consecutive days on SO?
 
fine, needs an edit
 
I'm working on it
 
@gunr2171 and the outspoken badge : )
@Closey are you here? like star some of your chat....
 
@NathanOliver Side-note: proof that Closey is a her.
 
@Tunaki What is the proof?
 
4:21 PM
@NathanOliver That. ∎
 
hey, you guys are the ones who assigned closey a gender.
 
Well the OP and another use butchered my edits on: stackoverflow.com/questions/35656619/…
 
@SouravGhosh no, you can't talk in the graveyard
 
@gunr2171 sorry, I think I misread the criterion...
 
no problem
 
4:34 PM
@SouravGhosh Reason?
 
What to do with a link-only answer that has been upvoted? Can't flag VLQ, since the votes obviate that. NAA?
 
@NathanOliver No MCVE, unclear too.
 
@gunr2171 And you have to hold your breath when you are walking past it.
 
: )
I'm glad the graveyard is only 1000 pixels wide
 
@Mogsdad Try to salvage, if you can't, mod-flag and explain why you couldn't salvage.
 
4:40 PM
It is sad that I can diagnose a problem by asking Are you using avast antivirus?
 
@Tunaki Salvaging the answer is a non-starter, I don't know the tech well enough to whip up an example. I've left a comment for the poster, and flagged for mod - we'll see. There are other non-answers on the question with ridiculous upvotes. (iOS)
 
@Mogsdad Most likely outcome: converted to a comment.
 
Why do so many people insist on saying "I know its a bit late but it can help others..." in their answers? Is this a counter-reaction to FGITW? Like, if the answer doesn't help the OP fast enough, you need to apologize for it?
@Tunaki That would be a great outcome.
 
@Mogsdad Maybe because they think answers are for the OP and they are sorry that it is to late to help them.
 
@cybermonkey isn;t it too broad, too?
 
4:53 PM
@SouravGhosh yeah I think both fit...
 
@SouravGhosh yeah, too broad and opinion-based
OP's realised and is apparently going to edit the question. don't know how the edit will make it on-topic though.
yeah, OP's just edited and it's still off-topic
 
re-posted after closure and deletion.
 
@cybermonkey, waffle in the head.... : ) watch out Tuna may eat you....
 
Tuna don't eat monkey.
 
What about cyber ones?
 
5:00 PM
Petter eat cats and Tuna eat waffle... don't know about that avatar...
 
@Kyll I'll bring up this matter for the next Tuna convention.
Where I'm the only one in attendance.
 
@Tunaki After the Ninja convention you're probably getting used to that
 
Too many conventions yeah... Maybe I should merge them all into one.
 
Maybe you should call them for what they are (lonely ramen nights)
 
But...
 
@cybermonkey Sometimes they even arrive after =D
 
user4639281
@Mogsdad It should, but I haven't tested that in firefox
 
@TinyGiant Not getting delete updates, either.
 
user4639281
@Mogsdad It should have to run after the NATO script because it listens to the AJAX complete.
 
user4639281
@Mogsdad The heartbeat isn't running on that page, will have to engage
 
5:09 PM
@TinyGiant Any way to force that, other than through monkey?
 
user4639281
@Mogsdad You could // @run-at document-idle
 
user4639281
Is // @include /^https?:\/\/\w*.?(stackoverflow|stackexchange|serverfault|superuser|askubuntu|s‌​tackapps)\.com\/(questions|posts|review|tools)\/(?!tagged\/|new\/).*/ that the include you're using?
 
user4639281
Why not just change it to // @include /^https?:\/\/\w*.?(stackoverflow|stackexchange|serverfault|superuser|askubuntu|s‌​‌​tackapps)\.com\/.*/
 
user4639281
That way it will run on any page, in case I modifry any other pages to include editing?
 
@TinyGiant I try to keep scripts only where they are intended.
 
user4639281
5:13 PM
Notice that your w*.? does not include meta.
 
@TinyGiant Does too.
But not www.meta...
 
user4639281
@Mogsdad oh lol, I thought it was w* not \w*
 
Regex be confusin.
 
user4639281
I just updated the RegEx to: // @include /^https?://\w*.?(stackoverflow|stackexchange|serverfault|superuser|askubuntu|sta‌​ckapps)\.com/.*/ on my old version and it works fine. Maybe a firefox specific issue?
 
user4639281
5:17 PM
@rene lulz
 
user4639281
It didn't work on the first one because the toolbar took an abnormally long time to load...
 
How did this get two upvotes so fast? Anyone else smell fish?
 
Tuna fish?
 
user4639281
brb
 
@PetterFriberg Out in the sun for a while...
 
5:22 PM
Its dark..... but commuting home cya...
 
Anyway... flagged for mod attention. Possible vote rigging. This improperly formatted code-only answer on a 4 year old question, made by a day-1 user, got two upvotes within 30 minutes of being posted. That's not normal.
 
JAL
@Mogsdad Yes, definitely looks fishy
 
@JAL - you comment-ninja, you.
 
afk
 
JAL
just doin' my job
 
5:24 PM
Care to do mine? I'm supposed to be completing annual reviews this afternoon...
 
JAL
@Mogsdad Also looks nearly identical to the accepted answer
lol
sure, if you want to handle the production incidents I've been working on for the past week
I work for a TV network and there's an issue with one of our ad networks so that every time an ad plays the app will crash
the higher-ups who count on ads for monetization are thrilled
 
@JAL On behalf of ad-haters everywhere... YAY!
 
JAL
yes
Also caused by one of our engineers checking for NULL when he should have been checking for nil -_-
 
When you're standing knee-deep in mud, a move to a shallow cow turd starts to look pretty good.
2
If Mark Twain said that, we'd all be quoting it. I'm not Mark Twain.
 
JAL
lol
Things get complicated in Objective-C: nil / Nil / NULL / NSNull
where none of them are equal
 
5:34 PM
@Tunaki 136 is up there. Recent stinkers. 10 count. Ignore all others
Unless you want to blow thru all your cv in 10 min
 
afk
 
5:49 PM
@JAL At least in java you only have null, nothing more. Unless you count Optional.empty() as something separate too....
 

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