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2:04 PM
Typing answer to question. ETA before resuming closing operations: 20 minutes.
 
@vaultah Reason?
 
@Tunaki It must be cold today in Bordeaux, your typing slower and slower, maybe time for a warm waffle? : )
 
:) Actually I'm learning the Maven API myself also by answering those questions. I love it :)
 
iv'e been writing a canonical Q&A for days now. i feel mentally dehydrated
 
post it so we can close it : )
 
2:07 PM
@Tunaki that's always great feeling, answering and learning, you feel kinda give a +1 to yourself
 
Yep :)
 
He must be working on a post
 
petter, thankfully the answer will already be there, so closing it won't help you
 
@rene meta.stackoverflow.com/q/317070/3933332 discussion about your second acc
 
@NathanOliver is it mandatory now to state the reason here?
I mean even if it's obvious
 
@vaultah well, for the question you linked it was not obvious I suppose
 
@vaultah Yes. We require a reason on all cv-pls so if anything comes up we know what was requested.
 
@A.DiMatteo "Is there any NoSQL database as simple as SQLite?" looks like a recommendation request to me
 
@user1803551 let's see who's duplicate is going to win
 
tied for 2
 
2:12 PM
damn it
 
vaultah just for the sake of argument we often open 1000 questions a day and our eyes get tired. A clue helps
 
yeah, got it
 
i didn't cv with my dupe
 
@user1803551 because you can't
 
yeah, it's SE
 
2:13 PM
Yeas, please check me out. Who knows what else I screwed up. — rene 13 secs ago
And we're going to hold you to that...
 
@vaultah yes, but with +200 upvotes sounds like something worth SO is providing out there, didn't check the date, maybe older than newer SO guidelines on QA
 
@A.DiMatteo 6 years
 
anyone knows Hans Passant?
 
yes, he's a high rep and good user
well, I know of him
 
@A.DiMatteo old off-topic questions must remain open, correct?
 
2:16 PM
@user1803551 He's one of the top rep guys
 
@vaultah I would say it depends : )
 
@MartinJames I can see a lot of positive aspects to splitting rep across multiple users :P
 
@vaultah @A.DiMatteo some meta reading material for reference: meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/254402/…
 
@Drew lol
 
yeah i can read the rep numbers. but he is rather toxic. almost all his comments are rude and many are even wrong (on meta)
 
2:17 PM
in fact, I bet you wish there were 6 of you
 
@user1803551 Hans is OK, even when he's wrong.
 
@user1803551 That's true, I was about to write that heas a mean telling machine :p (meta wise)
 
Answer posted. Back to closing operations.
 
@MartinJames lol that sounds so Skeetish.
 
@vaultah Only if they attract no activity whatsoever
Plop!
 
2:17 PM
Plop!
 
nope, not going to continue that train
 
@user1803551 Hans can be standoffish but he is passionate about the site. Most of his stuff is ok in my book.
 
Hiya o/
 
@user1803551 Unfortunately, he's been exposed to to many toxic question posters. The poison rubs off.
 
2:18 PM
well, thanks everyone. that sums it up :P
 
English question: he's been or he has been is the correct form?
 
both are stellar
 
Yup - both fine.
 
@gunr2171 :'(
 
thanks!
 
@kayess Both are fine. "he's" can be a contraction of "he is" or "he has".
 
@kayess I prefer He has been
 
don't ask me
 
And my word is final.
 
@Kyll how's your sleep that you needed? My food was good.
 
2:20 PM
@gunr2171 I was barely late this morning
 
just don't write he am been
 
@user1803551 Thanks! Going to check that site out, never saw it
 
@Tunaki are you looking for a dupe to my earlier ping?
 
@Rizier123 thanks, commented a bit...
 
2:20 PM
@Drew he am beened
 
@user1803551 Nope, what was the link again?
 
reading
 
i would be surprised if this isn't answered already, but i couldn't find anything concrete
 
Does java extends "means" implement in C# ?
 
2:24 PM
It's : in C++
 
My bad. ;\
 
@user1803551 And I don't understand the question xD.
 
@Tunaki I like that
 
java uses extends` for classes and implements for interface
@Tunaki i'll explain
 
@user1803551 so it stands for inheritance? :x
Java is so weird
 
2:25 PM
Yep. Wait No Java isn't weird. :p
 
@kayess yes
 
Come to the C++ side
 
@kayess yes
 
@kayess yes, and weirder every day.
 
@Ferrybig - looks like you are now 3K - congrats!
 
2:27 PM
he has a parent class with a field and 2 inheriting classes. he instantiates both classes. for the first he sets the field to 1 value, and for the second to another. then he is asking if the second assignment changed the first because they have the same superclass. that is, he doesn't understand that it's a new instance of the superclass
 
Woohoo a new 50 batch of CV \o/
 
@Ferrybig You earn a waffle! \o/
 
@WaiHaLee You noticed that really quickly thx
Waffles!
 
@user1803551 Oh.
 
@Tunaki now re-read the question :P
 
2:28 PM
@user1803551 Yeah. OOP major fail:(
 
congrats, the cv queue welcomes you
 
A new close voter joins the ranks
 
@Ferrybig Congru
 
@Ferrybig Almost as though I saw you were on 2996 and found a good answer of yours. :)
 
@Ferrybig Will you be joining us in the queue then?
 
2:28 PM
CV celebration \0/ throws close tickets in the air
 
There is an event tonight as well: chat.stackoverflow.com/rooms/info/41570/…
 
black tie party
 
@Kyll Yes, it will be fun, I will try to keep as much close votes for the event
 
@user1803551 And so then how is it decorating?
 
@Drew Looks like I'll be having my own party...
 
2:30 PM
:28807111 He's talking about wafflez
 
My advice for new 3k'ers in the cv queue: filter on ONLY "unclear" and tags that you answer for the first 1-2 days. Then you can expand your filters until you get comfortable with the patterns of each close reason.
2
 
@kayess i don't know why he does a lot of things. some of his types are not defined. it's not a good question, but not too bad. it's just that i can't find a dupe for something which was probably explained 30 times
 
'50 a day keeps the rep-PersonalServicesWorkers away' doesn't scan.
 
@gunr2171 Thx for the advice, that is also what I did when I got access to the triage (I skipped many questions)
 
@user1803551 It's just that I have never done decorating through inheritance but only composition
 
2:32 PM
skipping is always a good option.
 
oh, and don't fail an audit
 
@Drew that hurts, I can tell you
 
(granted, that meta post talks about the suggested edit queue, but the same principle applies to the cv queue)
 
sometimes I skip more than 50% of thequestions i go through
 
2:35 PM
I rarely visit the cv queue, I'm depressed enough as it is.
 
I skip usually if I am not 100% sure if it should be accepted or not, for example if a edit introduces some bad thing in combination with many good things
 
@Ferrybig I cases like that I normally use improve edit to fix the "wrong" part and keep all of the goodness the editor did.
 
If you know the tag you wanna clean exclusively (atm) I can create a batch for you. Upside: you clean, no audits. Downside: no badge trinkets
 
@Drew I prefer to do the reviews first, that way I can learn based on what other people voted for a certain review by using the back button on my browser
 
You can also click on "close" ... that'll tell you the numbers currently present by type
 
2:42 PM
and it won't make you insta-fail an audit
thankfully
 
It could be lovely to see these fresh 3k advices in some saved transcript which we could link to
 
@kayess "Come to @Drew, he LOVES you"
 
@kayess done
 
I love kayess. Said as such to jarrod last nite
 
@gunr2171 Thanks a lot!
@Drew Yep just read that, thanks:p
 
2:45 PM
@Tunaki if you didnt find anything i'll just answer it
 
@kayess Or even better, make a bookmark of the advise, it allow you to filter the noise messages away
 
@user1803551 Nope. Too localized...
 
@Tunaki looked pretty general to me, oh well
 
What is the main difference between flagging and using a close vote?
 
@Ferrybig flagging is telling someone to take an action. Voting is taking that action.
 
2:47 PM
^ that
 
@Tushar I went with too broad as to me it looks like a code request.
 
@Ferrybig Depends on the type of flags.
Some flags will take the question to the review queue, for others to take action on
 
@Ferrybig Thanks!
 
Some flags will alert moderators (only use those when in serious need)
 
@Ferrybig Some flags can also destroy a post if cast multiple times: Flag and rude. 6 flags and a post goes bonk
 
2:49 PM
By "serious" I mean "this is something that probably can't be handled by normal users, however much rep they have"
 
@Ferrybig Check this meta: Flag question vs. close vote vs. both?
 
@MadaraUchiha I have a Meta FR about comment flags that are labeled "serious" by the way. meta.stackoverflow.com/q/309518/1743880
 
with a red circle
 
obviously :)
 
@Tunaki comment flags suck
We can only either "delete the comment and approve" or "decline". No middle ground.
 
2:51 PM
Agree. The FR is about removing the word "serious" because, well, it's not. There should be a separate queue perhaps, no mods involved, but that's not the case...
@MadaraUchiha What do you think about it? Feasible? Not important, who cares anyway?
 
@Tunaki I tend to think that comment flags should be for serious things only, but also have some less nuclear option to express your disagreement with a comment (i.e. some sort of downvote mechanism)
As in, flags should be used only if the comment needs to be deleted.
Currently, we just don't have that option
So I'm really impartial about your suggestion at this time.
 
@MadaraUchiha Do you mean ambivalent rather than impartial?
 
How about I add a couple of waffles? Still impartial? :p
 
@DavidG Yes, that's what I said.
 
2:57 PM
But yeah okay
 
I speak English good, yes?
 
Your English is better than my Hebrew!
 
I thought he's Japanese
 
I thought he's a she
 
@user1803551 I was a she at one point (I was also dead and revived 3 times. Long story)
 
3:00 PM
@MadaraUchiha where you ever... say... a rabbit?
 
brb checking naruto wiki
 
@user1803551 Reference game on point.
 
@gunr2171 Narutopedia that is
 
JAL
morning all
 
Hiya
 
3:02 PM
yo!
 
Hiya
 
Sam
Hiya
Caps fail
 
Hiya
 
waffles
 
Died once fighting Hashirama, revived myself with reality changing technique. Died a second time of old age, got reanimated then revived myself. Turned into an evil rabbit goddess/demoness, reverted, then died a third and final time. (Or is it really final...?)
 
3:03 PM
no, don't let this be a train of fails
 
Sam
Lol
 
@Sam \o
 
@MadaraUchiha and then became a Stack Overflow moderator. Highlight of a warrior's life.
 
@gunr2171 Amen to that.
 
Sam
@kayess o/
 
3:06 PM
@Kyll 6 meteor questions in hive
 
@Ferrybig, congrats you can stop answering and only close all now....
 
@Drew Awww thanks little mouse
 
Laissons le poisson dormir
 
poisson equation?
 
@PetterFriberg Thx, you are a "few" minutes late to the party
 
3:07 PM
Oh c'est joli Drew :)
 
JAL
@Drew is a rat not a mouse @Kyll
 
@JAL How can you check that?
 
JAL
Ratbert
 
There's a second one after that
 
3:08 PM
pajalsta
 
@Ferrybig Yeah I know... I checked the transcript ; ), need to work some aswell...
 
@JAL I know. Doesn't mean anything! The cat is in HR remember?
 
JAL
Ah I see your Dilbert memory is better than mine
 
Kyll is the cartoon boss. He knows them all by heart. I'm sure he could recite the 523rd Dilbert strip.
 
3:11 PM
Oh no, I see my colleague on the other side of the office using Experts Exchange, what should I do?
 
@DavidG Flag for moderator attention :p
 
JAL
lol
 
@DavidG I'd suggest gasoline
@Tunaki I can't, not after reading 15 years of it xD
 
JAL
I like cartoons too, mostly Nickelodeon ones, but I do like Scooby Doo and Rick and Morty
the Dilbert TV show was very funny too
 
Can we burn...
46 questions in it
 
3:16 PM
Burn all teh thginz \o/
 
No description: The goal tag has no usage guidance, can you help us create it?
 
JAL
(disclaimer, i just answered that question and saw that other potential spammy answer appear while I was writing mine)
also a potential tool req question
 
There is undisclosed affiliation
 
@JAL I don't think that answer is spam because it answers the question and has all the essentials to the answer in the post
 
that ^
 
JAL
3:21 PM
I can't follow the link on the post since it's blocked at work, but if the user created the tool, it would be spam
 
It should mention that it is his utility/blog post.
@JAL The linked to blog is from the answerer.
 
@JAL Look at his profile.
 
JAL
got it, yep it's his blog
 
I left a comment
 
JAL
thanks Nathan
 
3:23 PM
What does this answer have to do with that link? Just that it's based on that code?
 
It follows the same technique AFAIK
 
@JAL @EricD. are the following question ids @cv4 hands-off. They have already been batched (in archive) and are jailbreak i.imgur.com/vqU1RY0.jpg
 
JAL
@Drew on it, ty
 
@JAL you want to edit this post? stackoverflow.com/questions/18946310/… I don't think it's close-worthy but the body of the question should be something like "where did the corners option go?"
 
JAL
@gunr2171 done
 
JAL
@Drew Wait these are the same from yesterday right? I VTC'd these already
 
thanks jal
 
They are spread across 4 batch numbers (represented by the dA column). Do ya think any are gonzo candidates for us plebians to look at?
 
I'm taking another batch at closing corners questions
 
3:29 PM
This user has a lot of these.
 
[corners] is down to 64 unclosed questions
 
@EricD. can you pontificate for another Z? stackoverflow.com/questions/35430144
 
@AlexanderO'Mara I've not gone and checked the posts but, on the basis of what you say, a flag seems to be in order. If a user is plugging their blog in each of their answers, something is fishy. Did they really have all of those articles at the ready before they answered the questions on SO? Or (much more likely), did they write the articles along with the answers and are using SO to funnel views? (I've seen one case where the author backdated the blog articles to hide the ruse.)
 
JAL
@Drew proposed a dupe target
 
3:37 PM
@Louis I didn't look at any of this. Perhaps the user just doesn't know the deal here.
 
@Drew I've POB'd this one
 
swift looks good. Just cv2 at the moment. Except for 2 awful cv3
 
I've seeded a couple of corners question if anyone wants to take a look
 
JAL
Also has a bad answer on it
Thanks Tuna, Madra
 
@JAL No problm
 
3:45 PM
drats, I was too slow
 
Sam
Madara'd™©®
 
@Drew The user has 59 answers that mention their website. (stackoverflow.com/…) I'm not going to read all the answers but on the basis of the sample so far I'd bet the majority of the answers do not disclose affiliation.
 
JAL
* Madara'd™
 
@Louis Mod flag then
 
JAL
@Louis Ask Madra about that since they're in the room
 
3:46 PM
Smoke Detector was dead the past 2 hours. If some spam has reached your tags, make sure to notice it here if it isn't removed in the mean time
 
I can ping him into my campaigns room if someone wants
 
@Louis I've custom-flagged one of the more-awful cases with a list of 12 other links. I'm sure there are more.
 
^^ that solves that
 
@Tushar well, you have 43k, so i will post my answer — Medet Tleukabiluly 5 mins ago
weird/funny
@Tushar make an answer so that it can be accepted — Medet Tleukabiluly 14 mins ago
 
smells like 2 "too chatty" flags
 
JAL
3:49 PM
Cool article about SO's architecture: nickcraver.com/blog/2016/02/17/…
2
 
@gunr2171 agree, flagged
 
the page doesn't load for me, I just see a bunch of colored squares
 
And flagged tushar's comment as obsolete while at it
 
oh, css didn't load
 
@Tushar That person's just trying to be polite and give you the opportunity of creating a proper answer from your comment before they do it.
 
3:51 PM
@PM2Ring That's fine. He also added attribution in answer
 
@AlexanderO'Mara Raised a flag too.
 
@JAL Is that... Is that how the site actually looks like? Is one of my add-ons interfering? My Cinnamon theme maybe?
Finally something I can read without my eyes burning or a personalized style!
 
JAL
@Kyll Yep, that's what it looks like for me
 
> Everything is redundant. Excluding Nick
 
@JAL remind me to delete vote this in a few days stackoverflow.com/questions/35430810
 
3:53 PM
Is he inactive for long time?
Didn't see around
 
JAL
@Drew Ok I'll try, we should have a bot for that
 
I will mark it with an well known evil number in one of my columns
 
JAL
haha sounds good
 
> Fun fact: some of those browsers have been open for over 18 months. We’re not sure why. Someone should go check if those developers are still alive.
 
JAL
I can't imagine not closing my browser or restarting my computer after a month, let alone 18
Also on the roadmap by Nick is an article about how Skeet breaks the site: trello.com/c/sUKnQyBV/34-the-problems-jon-skeet-creates
afk for my standup
 
3:59 PM
@JAL Using FF Dev, I have to restart it every day to update it...
 
swifties, these are your peers
I have this but every time I close the app it starts from 1 — Mohamed Mohamed Feb 5 at 12:11
 
@Drew why wait a few days?
 
because I don't wanna blow 20k ers votes
 
Meh. Used one on that.
 
afk
 
4:06 PM
Earn 20k @Drew :)
 
Not sure what the close reason: stackoverflow.com/questions/35461936/…
 
Yam
GraveRobber started 1.10.5 (debug).
 
@ProgramFOX ^Another URL to add :)
 
Woops, sorry
Got the binding vote
 
Sam
4:15 PM
Lol, np
 
JAL
back
 
Sam
wb
 
wb
 
\o
 
4:19 PM
@Tunaki Which one? :P
 
Sam
@Tunaki remove
 
@Tunaki 10k ._.
@Sam noted, thanks!
 
Right.
:)
 
Sam
Np
 
@Sam remove
Breaking time continuum I see.
 
4:23 PM
@Tunaki Commented on new answer
 
It's added @Tunaki :)
 
sd remove- Sam'ed
 
and deleted
 
Dang, Sam rollbacked it before it got deleted
 
and user deleted too
 
Sam
4:27 PM
Lol
 
with 3 answers? that's too bad
 
\o/
/o\
-o-
 
@SmokeDetector ignore- edited
 
sd remoe
Does that count as ninja? It doesn't right?
 
@rene what are the tags for the black tie party
 
4:39 PM
@Drew anything in corners
@Drew and if they are exhausted then: The next 3 tags are: flask 71, c 37, curl 32
and corner-detection
 
k
 
@NathanOliver looks like your Meta Q is a dupe.
 
out of close votes and downvotes myself, be back tomorrow ...
 
@Tunaki 3 looks fine
I nuked the other 2
 
4:54 PM
3 is an off-topic question, though
 
Fair enough :)
 

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