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Sam
7:00 PM
@Kyll No
I disabled tag tracking for now.
 
Yay
 
@NathanOliver You've completed 40 CV review items today, thanks! The time between your first and last review today was 25 minutes, averaging to a review every 38.8 seconds.
gunr passed a audit!
 
@TylerH slacker
 
Sam
Since I'm still not exactly clear on how we should be handling 'em.
 
7:01 PM
So... when Closey said "Watch out for audits!", was it telling me I was being audited?
 
user4639281
@AndrewCheong No that's just one of the greetings.
 
@AndrewCheong It is one of the stock replies when you tell closey you are starting. There could be audits when you go through the queue so closey is reminding you of that.
 
Ah, okay.
 
@Tunaki Dang, which ISP? My Upload won't go above 10Mb
 
And should I have told Pham I'm starting too?
 
7:02 PM
@Kyll Fibre Sosh
 
@Tunaki K, ty
 
user4639281
@AndrewCheong No, pham will track you automatically if you're on his list.
 
@AndrewCheong No. That is a test version that we are running that watches us
 
@Tunaki hey my upload and ping beat yours!
 
Ah, okay.
What's "Pham" a reference to / who named him / her / it?
 
user4639281
7:03 PM
Sam named Pham.
 
@Sam / Pham / Yam
 
@Kyll Did ya see this :D
 
different accounts he has
 
@BhargavRao That's nice
 
Next list of bots Jam/Tam?
 
7:04 PM
Did you photoshop it?
 
Wait, is Sam a bot?
:-)
 
Jan 23 at 16:30, by gunr2171
Sam has been lying to us all along. Pham is actually the human, and Sam is the bot. Pham has really bad social skills, and Sam has really good AI.
 
@Sam status
 
hahaha!
 
@Tunaki Nope. Server in Microsoft Office, Hyd
 
7:05 PM
@Sam You a bot?
 
Sam
in Tavern on the Meta on Meta Stack Exchange Chat, Aug 30 '14 at 11:52, by Unihedron
It's OK, you can be Pham L. Jackson.
There ya go
 
haha, "Phamuel," I like that
 
@gunr2171 You've completed 40 CV review items today, thanks! The time between your first and last review today was 31 minutes, averaging to a review every 48 seconds.
 
Does Pham also get tired of the mother fing snakes on the mother fing plane?
 
woot
 
Sam
7:06 PM
@NathanOliver I'm alive, I think.
 
Oh I had no idea there was a running joke that you were AI. Funny.
 
Sam
@Kyll Yes.
 
@NathanOliver or does he get a royale with cheese?
 
Sam
@AndrewCheong You'll get used to it, after a while.
 
@Sam That's mean, you know he won't.
 
JAL
7:08 PM
I didn't know that editing a LQP audit causes you to fail: meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/311964/…
 
Sam
@Kyll I have advanced AI, not a heart.
 
Guys, let's find Sam's heart!
 
Sam
I bet that search party'll get lost as well.
 
@JAL I think anything other than the correct action or skip causes and audit failure.
 
7:09 PM
we allowed to do pick one of two close reasons ?
 
passed c++ audit
 
@Drew yes. I start with a single close reason and tag, then add close reasons as I go
but it's up to you
 
seemed like yesterday it was display the one you chose
 
?
 
rene passed a audit!
 
7:12 PM
@Drew While a question can be closed for multiple reasons you should pick the reason you feel is best for the request.
 
ok so display only one
 
@Drew oh wait, are you talking about the CV queue or requests?
 
requests
 
That way you can defend that request if it comes up.
 
oh, requests. Yeah, you don't have to agree with the requester's reason, and your request can be something like "unclear / too broad"
if they are equal in relevance
 
Sam
7:13 PM
@gunr2171 And Gham.
 
ah, forgot that one
 
Sam
Although, he's busy doing something else atm.
 
You have no more close votes today; come back in 4 hours.
 
@Mogsdad The review session has been marked as completed. To set the number of items you reviewed use the command last session edit count <new count>
 
@Closey last session edit count 31
 
7:14 PM
Review item count has been changed:
User: Mogsdad (1677912)
Start Time: 2015-12-08 18:39:34 UTC
End Time: 2015-12-08 19:14:28 UTC
Items Reviewed: [Not Set] -> 31
Use the command 'last session stats' to see more details.
 
Sam
Any v2'ers still reviewing?
 
rene might be
 
@Mogsdad Just curious, what you were doing?
 
Sam
kk
 
@AndrewCheong Reviewing the cv queue... can you be more specific?
 
7:16 PM
rene has done 5 in last minute
 
@Sam yep
 
Oh, editing the las session count?
 
smokin'
 
last*
 
Sam
@rene k
 
7:17 PM
@AndrewCheong Yes. Either you paste here the final review queue message "Thank you for reviewing ..." or you do it manually
 
Sam
@AndrewCheong He's basically telling the bot how many CVs he reviewed.
 
@AndrewCheong In v1 of the program, if you run out of close votes before you review 40 cv items, we don't have enough information to know how many reviews you actually did. That command tells the bot that value
 
Yeah, all that!
 
Ahh, makes sense. Thanks, all.
Hahaha
 
Sam
@Mogsdad Yeah!
 
7:18 PM
Still had to paste the "no more close votes" message.
 
Sam
With a side order of waffles.
 
Mmmm. Waffles.
 
@Kyll you mentioned pasting the final review queue message. I remember we used to do that in this room as a celebratory gesture; so does the bot pick up and parse it? That's cool.
 
@AndrewCheong Yep!
 
BTW, Hi Andrew! Thanks for creating this room.
 
7:20 PM
@Andrew that will be a thing of the past soon. Will be automatically picked up
 
@Drew soon™
 
Hey, @Mogsdad! Good to meet ya. Creating this room was the easy part... @rene and all you guys keeping it up and making it awesome was the actual work.
 
2016 is soon
 
Sam
@gunr2171 Coming to a cinema near you.
 
Q1 2016
 
7:21 PM
haha, @Mogsdad I just saw "Classmate?"
 
@AndrewCheong Saw three variations of that homework today.
 
"gad"? I mean, if you are going to write an insult, at least spell it right. — gunr2171 7 secs ago
 
that's how it's pronounced in Illinois.
 
@BhargavRao Hey! You have my old comment. High-five!
 
pesky RO ruining fun statement Remember only one person needs to comment on a post
 
7:22 PM
:D
 
@Mogsdad We're not in Illinois anymore ...
 
I am
 
Flagging all your comments for free helpful flags. — Kyll 22 secs ago
 
Sam
@NathanOliver So how many people want waffles?
 
I've got 98.85% helpful flags. ;_;
 
7:24 PM
@Kyll Flagged that for Mod attention...
 
@Sam We if we include me, myself and I that would be 3 ;)
 
@BhargavRao I've got 99 problems, flags ain't one
 
@Mogsdad hopes it's Madara sensei
 
@NathanOliver Plus the voices, don't forget the voices.
 
7:25 PM
@rene You've completed 40 CV review items today, thanks! The time between your first and last review today was 25 minutes, averaging to a review every 38.1 seconds.
 
@Sam I'm done
 
Sam
@NathanOliver Oh, ok.
 
@Mogsdad The tinfoil hat keeps those away.
 
Sam
@rene Good good. I just wanted to make sure Pham hadn't died or anything.
 
Must... fight... urge... to... onebox!
 
7:26 PM
one-box one-box one-box one-box
 
JAL
the crowd screams!
 
the crows One-box! One-box!
 
oh no, do we have a corrupted RO?
 
JAL
@gunr2171 might need a reboot
:P
 
7:27 PM
@gunr2171 He's magic, not corrupted
Uh-oh. Will Andrew's return see the dawn of the Sixth Edition?
 
I'm feeling better now.
 
I'm so lost.
 
Sam
Welcome to SOCVR
 
user4639281
Let's see if I can get IP banned from chat...
 
Welcome to *your own SOCVR :D
 
7:29 PM
hahaha
 
@AndrewCheong We have a almost no one-box policy
 
sigh, I'll clean up the stars later
 
Holy hell, did gunr just give approval?
 
@gunr2171 No
 
@NathanOliver - "Almost." In what circumstance(s) are one-boxes allowed? Just, when the crowd screams?
 
7:31 PM
@Kyll No, there are more important things to do now, we will retaliate later ...
 
@AndrewCheong we try to limit it to one per day per user. That is not a hard limit but we don't want to look like the Tavern
 
haha i see
 
Sam
 
eyeroll
 
chuckles
 
7:33 PM
so the cv-pls that shows up here, is that the part @TinyGiant did?
 
@AndrewCheong also for special occasions, maybe. Currently in the room: 4/5 active ROs, 2 mods, and the founder.
 
@AndrewCheong most yest
 
@Sam hahaha
 
user4639281
@AndrewCheong If they are formatted beautifully yes, if it is a hack-job no.
 
@approxiblue Thanks, now I miss durron again.
=(
 
7:34 PM
I miss tampermonkey :(
 
user4639281
This is what they look like if they come from my script:
 
it's not working in Chrome no matter what I do, going to reinstall my system anyway
 
Ah, okay. So that was just the actual user @cybermonkey posting a cv-pls.
 
user4639281
Yeah
 
user4639281
The hard way
 
7:35 PM
@cybermonkey hmm. I am running tampermonkey on the latest version of chrome.
 
@Kyll did he get a real-world job?
 
@approxiblue he is working for Amazon
 
@NathanOliver updated Windows today, completely messed everything up
 
@gunr2171 Packing boxes?
 
bummer
 
7:36 PM
@cybermonkey Said every Windows every day for the past 20 years
 
Note to self, stick with 8.1
 
Outlook doesn't work, my connections in MySQL Workbench have disappeared, and more
means that I actually have to try and remember the passwords for my three db servers now, lol
 
user4639281
Ahhh Microsoft, doing unreasonably stupid things since.... well since it was founded.
 
@cybermonkey network card problems?
or more widespread?
 
@gunr2171 incompatibility issues I think
 
7:38 PM
ah
 
Thank you for reviewing 40 close votes today; come back in 4 hours to continue reviewing.
 
@AndrewCheong Thanks for reviewing! To see more information use the command last session stats.
 
@Closey last session stats
 
@AndrewCheong Your last completed review session ended 17 seconds ago and lasted 1 hour and 8 seconds. You reviewed 40 items, averaging a review every 1 minute and 30 seconds.
 
:D
 
7:46 PM
\o/
 
@Kyll You've completed 40 CV review items today, thanks! The time between your first and last review today was 62 minutes, averaging to a review every 96.1 seconds.
 
@MaximillianLaumeister Aha, th gold badge problems :-(
I leave a comment whenever I hammer :/
 
Thanks. Some people just swing their hammer all over the place and whatnot.
 
7:53 PM
some people don't and should too !
 
Hammer <Insert 2nd word in the name given for people obsessed with grammar rules>
:D
 
@MaximillianLaumeister that's why php is dangerous. I don't want to be hit with the claw twice.
 
@gunr2171 have you seen this prof picture? stackoverflow.com/users/2617068/tigerhawkt3
 
someday gunr gets one with c#
 
JAL
^ gone
 
8:02 PM
that was fast
 
deleted
 
@BhargavRao yeah, it was funny and odd
 
user4639281
@JAL We don't do that any more, close vote requests will be cleaned up automatically.
 
JAL
right sorry
 
@TinyGiant it wasn't a "closed", it was a "deleted"
 
user4639281
8:04 PM
Ahhhh, sorry.
 
JAL
yeah i didn't say "boom" i was just posting so that @cimmanon had the option to edit and remove
 
user4639281
Sounds good, I misread
 
it was too late to remove
 
Just realized that my rep is 18281 ... Oh See D
 
nice
afk
 
8:10 PM
The prime factors of 18281 are 101 and 181, also palindromes, hmm...
 
back
 
Andrew you have too much time on your hands :P
 
@NathanOliver forth.
 
JAL
Gotta love being assigned a story to fix a regex that is being used to parse html
and replace it with another regex
...
 
8:20 PM
So stackoverflow.com/questions/34034271/… was closed as a duplicate of an issue that it's not a duplicate of. I flagged it to be reopened, but it was voted to be left closed. Presumably the voters did not see my comment explaining why it's not a duplicate. Any chance I can get some help with reopening it?
 
@AndrewCheong That's common enough. As long as there are no carries, the product of two palindromes is a palindrome.
 
@Drew - Hehe.
@IlmariKaronen - "As long as there are no carries" seems like an uncommon product tho.
 
Is this chat.math.se?
 
@IlmariKaronen - But agreed, not really as crazy a circumstance as it might seem.
haha
 
are 2 and 3 palindromes?
 
JAL
8:24 PM
@bdash That dupe is correct. Just because the answers in the duplicate question do not help you doesn't mean a duplicate question should be opened.
If you want to ask for clarification, comment on the target dupe
 
@IlmariKaronen I see you are a PhD student in math. I'm humbled. I have a BSc in math, and trying to self-study higher math.
 
JAL
@bdash Instead of invoking the app delegate directly, can you solve your problem by firing a notification that the app delegate is listening to, and perform an action that way?
 
@AndrewCheong I should really start working on that thesis again at some point. It's basically been on the back burner for several years now. :(
 
@Drew - Probably. Just depends on how you define a palindrome.
 
@JAL Why is the dupe correct? The thing it's duped against is about someone trying to use API they're not allowed to use from within an App Extension. This question is about the compiler thinking their App is an App Extension when it's not.
 
JAL
8:28 PM
@bdash The dupe is correct because it is asking the same question
If you feel that your question is different, edit it to reflect the differences between yours and the target dupe
 
@JAL It's not the same question
It already reflects the difference.
I can edit it to make the difference more obvious if you think that'd be useful
 
JAL
where are you calling UIApplication.sharedApplication()? From a view controller or other object? What's the target? Are you explicitly not doing this in an app extension?
 
To be clear, this isn't my question
But the question makes clear that it's not from within an app extension
 
JAL
I need more information to make a better evaluation
 
And as my comment on the question points out, this exact behavior is caused by a bug in CocoaPods
 
JAL
8:30 PM
oh doh, i didn't see you weren't the asker. I see
 
user4639281
@bdash That information is not in the question.
 
lol
 
JAL
I see what you're saying now
 
I think we would need the domain knowledge to read and understand that
 
Isn't domain knowledge what Stack Overflow is all about? :-|
 
8:31 PM
maybe saying what it lacks is simply a duh for those with that domain knowledge
 
@IlmariKaronen - Core Wars is fascinating. Wish I were around for that.
 
JAL
Either way, the two questions ask the same thing, just in different contexts. I think you should add your comment as an answer to the dupe target
 
now that is a stretch JAL
 
JAL
that's just your opinion
 
if they are different issues why muck up the dupe target
 
JAL
8:33 PM
the way i see it, they are the same error. if you feel that they aren't, you're welcome to reopen the question
 
I edited the question to clarify the difference
 
JAL
if someone googles that particular error, the legacy post will probably come up first
 
My comment would not make any sense in the context of the duplicate
 
I am without domain knowledge to do anything without taking a cocoa course online
 
@AndrewCheong It's still around. Not particularly active nowadays, but some people do still play it.
 
JAL
8:35 PM
but how do we know the OP was not trying to call that in an app extension? There is nothing in the original post that shows what context the op is trying to make that call in
the comment about cocoapods?
 
@JAL If they were trying to do it in an App Extension, they'd have had the error prior to adding Realm to their podspec.
They clearly said the issue appeared after adding Realm
 
JAL
we don't know if that's correct, the user could have added it after adding realm. All I'm saying is that the context is ambiguous
 
Evening
 
JAL
that's all
 
Evening @kayess
 
8:37 PM
so it's a slam dunk for those with domain knowledge perhaps
 
Evening @BhargavRao
 
@kayess I would say that it is too broad or a request and not lacking an mcve
 
@NathanOliver Hmm yes that fits better. Also it has NAA and link only answer below it.
 
@kayess there is no MCVE on it
perhaps you mean "hey guys what do you think?"
or I am out of votes, what do you think
 
@JAL And in your opinion it's better to assume that the user's mention of Realm triggering the issue is unrelated because they didn't explicitly state the context in which the code is running, despite there being a known issue that results in that exact error when Realm is used with certain versions of CocoaPods?
Particularly when the user goes on to confirm in the comments that they're using the version of CocoaPods that exhibits the bug
 
user4639281
8:41 PM
@bdash Do you have a reference for the bug?
 
JAL
If you feel that the question should be reopened, you are welcome to vote to reopen it
Yes bdash added a reference to the github issue in a comment
 
I have voted to reopen it. But people voted to leave it closed…
 
@Drew I ment with No MCVE, that he could actually show the way he tried to implement both kind of validations.
 
@TinyGiant It's github.com/CocoaPods/CocoaPods/issues/3906. I linked it from a comment on the question
 
@Drew but then it's asking for off-site resource?
 
8:42 PM
github.com/realm/realm-cocoa/issues/2682 is another issue about the same problem, this time from the Realm side
 
@kayess, my point is (unless I am wrong), one comes with a cv-pls to suggest "here is how I voted"
and you didn't
 
@Drew I flagged it as No MCVE, which could not be perfect in this case
 
ah yes, you are under 3k sorry
 
:-)
 
my bad, a recurring theme
 
user4639281
8:45 PM
@bdash Alright, it has been discussed, any users that are going to vote have voted. There is still a chance that two more users > 3k will find it of their own accord and vote to reopen.
 
JAL
@bdash none of the people who voted to leave it close are in this room, so I don't know why Nisse Engström directed you here stackoverflow.com/review/reopen/10488661
 
@JAL More than likely to get the some quick help/opinions.
 
i think what @NisseEngström did was pretty cool
 
@Drew yup, although I probably shouldn't be here as of yet with such a small amount of rep :-)
 
I think we are all glad you are here
 
user4639281
8:47 PM
@kayess It's fine for you to be here, it helps you learn what to flag/vtc and why.
 
user4639281
cv-pls is an educational tool for all of us.
 
Alright, thanks for the acknowledgement.
 
@bdash I cast another reopen; you need one more.
 
Thanks all for your help
 
Good luck...
 
user4639281
8:49 PM
@bdash it is now open.
 
Hooray! Thanks all :-)
 
user4639281
You're welcome, I'm glad we could help.
 
JAL
@bdash now that the question is reopen you should add your comment as an answer pointing to the github issue, so other users can find it helpful
I still maintain that your edit deviates from the author's original intent, stating things we do not know are true, but I'm going to just let it go at this point.
 
@JAL Which aspect of my edit are you referring to?
 
8:54 PM
I fail to understand the column names in Tag synonyms list. :(. I wonder why there is no question on that in MSO
 
JAL
"but my code is in a normal application" The only thing we know for a fact is that the OP is using cocoapods 0.38.2. We do not know the context where they are making this call
 
@BhargavRao What part is confusing you?
 
you guys have a chat room you can take this
 
JAL
I'm done
 
@NathanOliver The Renames and Last
 
8:56 PM
I know you are both ios guys
 
Seems like a lost cause.
 

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