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user4639281
5:01 PM
Yeah... I'm just using the most recent version. The 2.x versions don't work with IE < 9, which is most likely why Stack Exchange uses an older version. But, as we don't support exploder, we can use the newest stable version. If I find a reason not to use the most current stable version, I will alter the script.
 
@TinyGiant is it "p" or "o" for opinion?
 
user4639281
p
 
whoops :)
 
user4639281
lol, it was your short reasons.
 
@TinyGiant Yeah, I forgot already. Sue me :)
That worked
 
user4639281
5:07 PM
I was considering expanding the reasons to "Primarily Opinion Based" etc... thoughts?
 
user4639281
substituting one letter for three seems kind of lazy to me
 
user4639281
Especially when we only use pob because the other is long to type.
 
@TinyGiant "opinion"
or "opinion based"
 
user4639281
ok
 
user4639281
@Mogsdad Nice usage of the reason :)
 
user4639281
5:10 PM
in Low Quality Posts HQ on Meta Stack Exchange Chat, 1 min ago, by Zephyr
Close Vote Request for http://stackoverflow.com/q/9190628/1677912 by Mogsdad from SO Close Vote Reviewers
 
user4639281
Unfortunately it didn't pick your reason up
 
It doesn't seem to have hit the queue. Don't know why.
Could even be spam.
 
i dont know that it is worth flagging answers as vlq when the question is off-topic (particularly tool request ones)
 
@durron597 look at the "about me" section of the author
 
@durron597 Did you look at the user profile. they talk about it there so I would go with spam/ non disclosure of afliation
 
5:17 PM
@cimmanon Hard to say. However, it doesn't meet the criteria of the close search, so unless we push it here, it's unlikely to get closed.
 
better? :p
 
too late...
@durron597 Brad deleted it
 
@Mogsdad looks like a poorly asked question
 
@Mogsdad dupe
 
@NathanOliver If they disclose it in their profile, it's disclosed... no?
 
what's disclosed?
 
@durron597 I was always under the impression that it needed to be disclosed in the post but if SO allows it in the user profile then nvm
 
5:35 PM
It should be per-post
because users can change their about mes
and there's no historical record
I don't think there's established precedent of one vs the other, though
 
@TylerH agreed
 
Yeah perhaps
Well brad deleted it but didn't spam nuke it.
 
user4639281
@TylerH I've seen it mentioned on meta by a mod that it must be in the post itself.
 
I mean, regardless of whether or not it was spam, it was definitely VLQ.
 
5:38 PM
already did that one
 
@LynnCrumbling boom
 
rubs fingernails on shoulder
 
@LynnCrumbling 2.2k, and you don't know that SO is for programming?
 
@gunr2171 over 200 questions and answers, as well
 
5:40 PM
sigh
 
@gunr2171 Yeah, saw that. Made we wonder exactly how the user got that much rep.
 
time for some, investigative reporting
not touching c++
 
@gunr2171 you act like it's Haskell
 
@TylerH unless you want to give me a pointer
 
@gunr2171 PHP is related to C, not C++. You shouldn't catch the bug from touching it
 
5:42 PM
@gunr2171 Don't tell me C++ scares you. Come to the dark side
 
@gunr2171 haha, I get it
 
@NathanOliver yes, no.
@TylerH :)
c# is fine for me
 
C+, as they say
 
I started with VB and then got introduced to C++ and I have loved it ever since.
 
5:44 PM
@gunr2171 boy that's a boulevard of broken dreams if ever I've seen one
 
I started with VB 6 and vb.net before school. c++ and java in school, c# in college and beyond.
 
@Mogsdad are you going around looking for old off-topic questions?
@gunr2171 I started with HTML and CSS before school. In school I learned that business technology is a big field. Now I'm back to CSS
 
@TylerH Nope, working through the edit search.
 
Thanks, school
 
@TylerH Ha! When I was in school there was no HTML or CSS!
 
5:46 PM
are you using vanilla css or a preprocessor (less, etc)?
@Mogsdad back in my day, we didn't have electricity!
 
@gunr2171 I tied an onion to my belt, which was the style at the time. Now, to take the ferry cost a nickel, and in those days, nickels had pictures of bumblebees on 'em.
 
@gunr2171 I use vanilla
 
@TylerH god save you
 
My work doesn't require such piecemeal sites as to make sass useful
 
user4639281
I... dislike CSS preprocessors
 
5:48 PM
which, btw, if you're using one, you should use sass, not less
 
the only thing I've used so far is LESS, which seems to do everything I need to do. I'll learn SASS as some point.
I'm an engineer, not an artist
 
user4639281
But I would like a parent modifier
 
@TylerH Any particular reason?
I've used both but haven't yet determined which one I prefer
 
LESS has better integration with visual studio, so points there
 
@KevinBrown more powerful from what I've seen
but I certainly defer to @cimmanon
she's fairly expert in Sass
 
user4639281
5:54 PM
@NathanOliver That's hilarious
 
best title I have seen today. Programming might not be for them though.
 
user4639281
I would love a golden toilet.
 
user4639281
Or are we not listing things that will never happen?
 
Sure you wouldn't want
You could literally shat on your throne
 
@NathanOliver -1 this is not a game
 
5:59 PM
@NathanOliver Have my shat be thrown? Like a catapult?
@NathanOliver +1 made me laugh. Voting is entirely subjective on stack exchange
 
(my message was a pun)
 
@gunr2171 Well it went down as well as a backed up toilet. ha toilet humor. I need to get out more
 
I see it's one of those days for all of us
5pm can't come fast enough
 
only 177 more minutes
 
I blame Monday.
 
6:04 PM
oh god, my coworker just got a new ringtone
it's one of those high pitched mosquito sounds
 
@TylerH do you have a brick handy?
 
I'm guessing he can barely hear it, but it's ear piercing to me
 
Just drop the phone in his coffee by accident
 
@gunr2171 unfortunately I think these walls are stucco /s
 
One of the few perks (there aren't many) of being located on the sales floor: Everyone has the cellphone on silent during the day
 
6:05 PM
definitely one of the downsides of being a 25 year old in an office full of 40-50 year olds
 
@TylerH I fell your pain. Our office has an average age of about 50.
 
In highschool my physics teacher was teaching us about sound frequencies and the limits of human hearing. The teacher was 50+ years old and we are a bunch of 17 year olds. So as he's teaching this to us our class president / class clown takes out his iPhone, finds an app that plays high pitched sounds, at turns it on. As such, everyone in the room heard it except the teacher. He didn't turn it off for 20 minutes.
 
those were all the rage for a while when I was in high school
well, ringtones, not apps
"yo play the 70Hz frequency, it'll piss Megan off but the teacher won't hear it"
 
well, it was funny at first, but not after 10 minutes
 
i bet
 
6:08 PM
@NathanOliver Wait till you get there ...
 
and then someone had the brilliant idea of making an anoyatron
 
@gunr2171 "As seen on NCIS"
I can just see Tony being driven crazy by this
 
@TylerH Annoyed? YYYYEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAHHHHHH. Oh wait, wrong show.
 
I think there was actually was an NCIS episode about that
 
6:26 PM
@gunr2171 Have you had a run-in with one of those things? They're ... annoying.
Especially when it's a sneak attack and you have no knowledge that they exist.
 
no, and thank god I haven't
many faces would be punched if I did
 
The mode that was selected for us was on of the high pitched modes,... like there's an old CRT tv turned on or a monitor is going out.
And it only produces the noise long enough for you to stop what you're doing and start looking for the source.. then it stops.
Grrr.
 
I had something like that in my basement. for about 3 months something made a noise for about 30 seconds very few hours. Finally the batteries died and there was peace across the land
 
@NathanOliver "the batteries died" is a horrible euphemism for stepping on that poor cricket.
 
that's fine, it's an error
 
6:35 PM
Should anything be done with that title?
 
More words added probably, but the capital-ness of it is fine
 
FWIW, it used to be "SSL_ERROR_BAD_MAC_READ problem" but was just edited to remove that word.
Unsure why the editor made that choice.
The rest of the edit is just fixing typos.
 
the title should be edited to be a question, but not sure what that would be
Maybe "Got a [error] error, where are the logs for more info?"
 
What causes FF to produce SSL_ERROR_BAD_MAC_READ, and how can I enable verbose logging?
 
^ I like that better
 
6:39 PM
"Receiving incorrect Message Authentication Code error"
 
Is he asking where the logs are, or how to make FF dump more into them?
Or..both?
 
> anyone know where those logs are in FF or maybe I should enable some logging in FF?

Where can I find the logs for this in Firefox?
seems both
 
So.. both.
maybe just : What causes FF to produce SSL_ERROR_BAD_MAC_READ?
eh, whichever.
 
oh, and based on the accepted answer, close as unreproducible?
 
Possible burnination candidates: (291, no wiki), (14, no wiki). Just in case anyone is bored on this loverly Monday afternoon / evening.
 
6:42 PM
@gunr2171 Yes
 
well, that was a subtle hint
 
@LynnCrumbling You can't have the word "problem" in a title anymore.
 
@durron597 Ah, right.
So when the editor attempted to save... boom.
 
@LynnCrumbling Exactly.
SO itself should be filtering for all caps titles, though.
 
6:46 PM
Yes indeed.
^ heh, more like library, but yeah.. same outcome.
 
@Mogsdad how's your "editing" going lol
 
Never heard that term... "SoundFonts"
 
problem is, even closed these questions still need to be edited or deleted.
 
@TinyGiant - On Firefox, ctrl-shift-A sux. It opens up the Add-ons tool. FF Shortcuts.
 
user4639281
Really? that sucks. But that will be irrelevant for the next version.
 
user4639281
6:53 PM
Not the key combo but the bug
 
@durron597 I'm managing to edit more than half of the ones I've touched today, happily was redundant in several cases. I've rewritten a few to be on-topic. WRT close-voting some; I figure that leaving the undesirable tag on them keeps them in focus for delete votes.
If all we did was remove the tag, they'd still need to be closed & deleted. Too bad we can't do it all in one step...
 
@durron597 i have read and understood the rules , how can i come in to chat in android ?
@durron597 can you just tell them ?
 
@echo_Me Um did you click "request access"?
 
i have clicked yes
and read rules ,
 
heyo
 
7:01 PM
ah sorry i hade to refresh the page
 
7:28 PM
More often then not you find users complain about the community while they totally forget about their own attribution to/in that same community. Evidence
 
opinions on revision #4 please: stackoverflow.com/posts/32058119/revisions
 
@gunr2171 I leave a comment hold on
 
comment added
oh, you would make a comment, uh. whoops
 
sigh
 
i mis-read that
 
7:38 PM
I communicate badly ...
 
good help can be so hard to find
 
yup
 
@gunr2171 Also, his edit-summary is unambiguously wrong; It was the first editor who synthesized a question, not you.
 
@gunr2171 on the plus-side, we both leave kind-of the same message ...
 
What tags are we hitting today for the CV queue?
 
7:40 PM
@Deduplicator I improved the suggested edit, I know he's not talking about me
 
@NathanOliver I'm not sure if has anything to do
 
yeah, source if that's not empty, then
@Closey next 3 tags
 
Refreshing the tag listing. Please wait...
 
and the other burnination tags are not on its way so choose fom Closey
 
@gunr2171 The next 3 tags are: 134, 131, 93
 
7:41 PM
MySQL is gone ...
 
good
 
thanks SEDE update
 
@Closey starting
 
@NathanOliver By the power of the Vote! Review!
 
new revision: updated title by OP
 
7:42 PM
Instead of sql with php I'm now subject to all kind of css crap, right?
 
and, meh
no, it's css with php crap
you can't escape the crap that is php
 
There are no items for you to review, matching the filter "unclear what you're asking, too broad, primarily opinion-based; [source]"
 
@Closey starting
 
@gunr2171 By the power of the Vote! Review!
 
@Closey starting
 
7:45 PM
@rene Don't get lost in the queue!
 
@rene heyy, send it my way :-)
 
sure ;)
 
in before my average review time is less than a Formula 1 pitstop
@Closey starting
 
@TylerH May the Vote be with you!
 
7:48 PM
regarding this one question, the dupe should be swapped: stackoverflow.com/questions/22732226/…
 
@cimmanon ugh..
 
the target should be closed as a dupe of it, even though the target is a week older
because it is a much better question/answer set than the target
 
@cimmanon that's a "good" answer to a terrible question
 
@gunr2171 not really. it was a terrible self answer for a problem the guy made up
 
passed matlab audit
 
7:50 PM
hence the air quotes
 
@cimmanon I VTC-ed unclear
 
same
 
i dont even how how that answer managed to accumulate 7 votes
 
the "tl;dr" principle?
 
Where's the magic 8 ball when you need it
 
7:52 PM
you mean the wheel of blame?
 
I'm out of cv for today!
 
@gunr2171 no that's for blaming devs for site problems
 
@Mogsdad \o/ or :(
 
a wheel of blame for other reasons
 
the 8 ball is for "how did this question/answer get upvotes?"
 
7:53 PM
someone lost his keys?
Or is that for down votes?
 
possible reasons: "people are stupid" "PHP was used today" "corruption" etc.
 
@rene \o/ It means I can concentrate on editing my daughter's novel tonight! (Teen fiction. yay.)
 
@Mogsdad better plot than Twilight?
 
@gunr2171 What's Twilight?
 
Don't ask
 
7:55 PM
hehe
 
there are four books?
I thought there were only three
> There are no items for you to review, matching the filter "[source]"
 
hi
 
oh hey
 
You have no more close votes today; come back in 4 hours.
 
7:57 PM
@NathanOliver The review session has been marked as completed. To set the number of items you reviewed use the command last session edit count <new count>
 
@Closey last session edit count 35
 
Review item count has been changed:
User: NathanOliver (4342498)
Start Time: 2015-08-17 19:42:20 UTC
End Time: 2015-08-17 19:57:49 UTC
Items Reviewed: [Not Set] -> 35
Use the command 'last session stats' to see more details.
 
@Closey last session stats
 
@NathanOliver Your last completed review session ended 40 seconds ago and lasted 15 minutes and 29 seconds. You reviewed 35 items, averaging a review every 26 seconds.
 
@gunr2171 Yep... No, the plot isn't as intricate, and not as commercial. Still, a good story, and pretty well written esp since she was just 14. She placed just out of the top 25 in the Schoolastic competition, without even spell-checking. Once it's done editing, it will be published on Amazon. (I'm a proud Dad...)
 
7:59 PM
oh wow, nice job
 

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