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I think the reason it was not received well is because of the justification Mr Owens provided
the feature is neutral and a very good idea
but the reason of "to see who is VTCing good content" makes it clear they have a bone to pick with certain users they think are 'using the site wrong'
Any action that can affect other users or processes (like VTCing a post) ought to be logged and investigateable by employees and, for the most part, mods
mods certainly don't have the free time to go around harassing users by investigating their voting habits
especially since it already is recorded publicly on a user's profile
they can just go look there if they think a user is doing something suspicious
 
Votes to close are not recorded publicly within the profile. Everything in the ?tab=votes is private to that individual. Mods can't see those pages on any but their own profile. However, close-votes are visible to moderators on question timelines.
Yes, on SO, moderators don't have time to go looking at a user's close-vote habits without cause, but there are times when the information which is available under post timelines (i.e. close-, reopen-, delete-, and undelete-votes) being visible to moderators within a user's profile would be very helpful.
 
Oh, I thought mods could see the close votes of other users
I guess I am conflating close votes view in general with the reviews view of the all actions section
 
10:19 PM
Trusted friends... Can you help me with finding a better term than "serviceables"? The client offers a number of services, and we need to design a hierarchy to have groups of "serviceables" which may have one or more "services" which our client provides. Is there a "better" noun to group with? Sometimes the "serviceable" is a physical appliance or thing and other times it may be an "area" to be serviced. Any bright ideas?
 
@IanCampbell I think this has 1 main potential problem, being a magnet for revenge downvotes. (One SOCVR user has been trolled and harrased on and off-site for being a prominent closer in a tag, even without the CV record being public).
@mickmackusa good question, I'm drawing a blank ("serviceable" doesn't exist in my native language).
 
But you can easily get that information from the timeline once the vote is completed. The edge case is of course questions that aren't ultimately closed, but that doesn't seem like a big enough issue.
 
@bad_coder Yeah, it fits my purpose, but isn't awesome. And it doesn't roll off the tongue nicely. We want to build good clean keywords that become the vernacular between the client's employees and the IT team.
 
@mickmackusa synonyms on google doesn't give anything good. In my language "serviceable" would be said "passible of service" meaning it "can be serviced". So another good question: what's the best 2 word expression as an alternative?
 
@bad_coder I did Google before asking for help (I've been a SO user for years :^) ) A two word phrase would be admission of defeat -- NEVER! To be honest, using "service item" will be unsuitable because that may be confused with one of the "services" within the group.
 
10:25 PM
@mickmackusa this is a buisness management question, their technical lingo is the right choice (whatever it might be). If the literature uses "serviceable" than that's the right word.
 
Well, I guess "serviceables" is the winner until something better comes along.
 
@mickmackusa I think the right term is likely business services
@mickmackusa acronym: BS - it's settled :D
 
@bad_coder The tricky thing is that the grouping term must not be confused with a grander pool of verbs -- all of the services that the client does. ServiceablesA contains Service 1, Service2, and Service3; ServiceablesB contains Services4; ServiceablesC contains Services5 and Services6
Who doesn't love BS!
For basic (fabricated) context, ServiceablesA might pertain to swimming pool services; ServiceablesB might pertain to oven services; ServiceablesC might pertain to garage door services.
So the Serviceables would be: Pools, Ovens, and Garage Doors. (all nouns)
 
10:43 PM
@mickmackusa I just read through wikipedia for 10 minutes and no luck, the 2 level hierarchy of Hyponymy and hypernymy you're describing makes sense, but I'm at a loss for words.
 
Golly, that's educational. Now I know (academically) that I want to avoid autohyponymic terminology to ensure unique identification (table names).
 
As a native US English speaker, I find "Serviceables" jarring and unclear. How about "Service areas"?
 
@mickmackusa IMO: "Services Provided" if necessary without the whitespace, that's Adjective+Noun. The remaining subcategories should be Noun+Noun from what you described.
sorry Noun+Verb
 
Or "Service lines". Might make an OK question over on EL&U
 
@IanCampbell two-word solutions are for quitters!
 
10:52 PM
That's the German approach
 
Yes, I think I've heard of this. Something like "race car driver" is one word in German ...or something like that.
 
Yeah, but then again, not even in a particularly creative way.
In this case, simply concatenating the nouns does the trick, that's the actual word.
 
@BaummitAugen German is superior in every way analytically.
 
Pesticide. I have no more to add to the German vs English debate. :-)
 
"Schädlingsbekämpfungsmittel" =D
But "Pestizid" actually works too.
 
11:01 PM
Not quite .. looking through some of my old code ...
 
We stole that from English
@AdrianMole Well, there's several words for subtly different classes of pesticides.
 
Ungeziefervertilgungsmittel
... but yours is longer than mine, so probably better. ;-)
 
I would also think mine is more common.
 
... but the fact that I have that embedded in my code should ring bells.
 
@AdrianMole Geziefer - group of animals, I didn't know that one.
see you later folks o/
@AdrianMole last C++ Q in the burnination would you mind taking care of it?
 
11:09 PM
@bad_coder I looked, but strawberries have had too much gas, tonight. I think an edit is probably correct: removing the comma tag and editing (at least) the title.
 
@AdrianMole done
 
Code-formatting (with the none tag) would help on the example input. ;)
... but, like I said, my strawberries are too gassed for me to engage in curation activities.
 
11:25 PM
@bad_coder matabaratas
 
Sounds vaguely rude.
 
:)
because it kills: mata baratas = cockroach killer
 
@mickmackusa as is "beef labeling supervision duties delegation law" - that being "Rindfleisch­etikettierungs­überwachungs­aufgaben­übertragungs­gesetz"
 
@RyanM A later record holder is Grundstücks­verkehrs­genehmigungs­zuständigkeits­übertragungs­verordnung
 
:D
 
11:34 PM
(Ftr, both did exist, but have been repealed by now)
 
don't forget donaudampfschifffahrtskapitaenswitweenpensionsantragsformularstempel
 
You misspelt Witwen - it only has one e ;)
 
hi baum, long time :)
@tink you are right, I also missed some words to add on :)
 
@Vickel Most of the Donau* stuff is kinda disputed re if that's real words. =D
@Vickel Hey, how's it going? =D
 
Heh
 
11:40 PM
@BaummitAugen yeah all good, still hanging in Portugal... and staying...
 
The aforementioned Gesetz (law) and Verordnung (roughly executive order) definitely did exist though.
@Vickel That sounds awesome, probably better weather than round here at least.
 
I still think that Turkish tops German ... being fully agglutinating beautiful "words" like muvaffakiyetsizleştiricileştiriveremeyebileceklerimizdenmişsinizcesine are possible :D
 
And when it comes to umlauts, rivaled only by Finnish? =D
 
Heh. And cases ... what was it, 16? :D
 
Without knowing much about the specifics, Finnish and Hungarian are crazy from what I've heard. =D
 
11:44 PM
@BaummitAugen we are having a blast with the climate change, +3 degrees here at the coast, Iberian peninsula offcoast got a 40+ heat wave
 
Oooof, that would be too much for me. And in June already? Yikes
 
at the coast 20-25
10km inland: hot like hell
 
@Vickel Ah, that's the perfect range
What are you doing down there, if I may ask?
 
I came here for surfing/windsurfing in the 1st place
and liked it so much, that I decided to stay
 
Sounds awesome :)
 
11:51 PM
now I'm into tourism, running my platform
 
Hope you managed the Covid mess fine...
 
2020 was BAD ASS, no business
then it gradually it became better and better to very nice = right now

how about yourself, you said you would finish some masters and stuff, IIRC
 
@Vickel Good to hear.
Yeah, the master is done, now I'm on a PhD (technically its German equivalent for my field).
Which is, not unexpectedly, a lot of work. =D
But I hope to finish this year.
 
@BaummitAugen great to hear! good luck, let me know when I may call you DR. BAUM :)
 
Heh, I will =D
 
11:59 PM
@BaummitAugen after your 1st (or maybe next) burn out, give me a shout to recover here at the coast :)
 
Heh
 
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