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12:03 AM
Your king has arrived
 
I don't think this is the right room for this: The six character minimum edit rule should not apply when I spend three minutes adding five commas to somebody's 2000 character question. Maybe one of you will find my position on this topic useful and take it up as your own. I'm not really active in meta or chat, so. I just had to say it to someone who would at least know what I am talking about. :P
 
that's what the "K" in my rep means, right?
 
@gunr2171 Kings attend meetings? Oh, how the mighty have fallen
 
12:26 AM
@daveloyall I think this is the canonical thing to upvote for that request.
 
@cigien When the opinion is simply "Microsoft stinks", I really don't think it adds any value to the post.
 
@Nick Like I said, phrased that way it would need editing at the least. But phrased not as a rant, e.g. like "MS products are poor quality.", I think that's fine. Also, content not adding value to a post doesn't automatically imply that it needs to be removed.
 
@cigien see Ryan's link above: "Just like if it is mostly fine, but has some ranty paragraph about how much Microsoft sucks---just remove that paragraph with an edit"
 
@Nick I'm not sure I follow. Was my phrasing ranty as well? Or is any criticism of Microsoft automatically a rant?
 
12:40 AM
Put another way: "MS products are poor quality." is as useful to the actual answer as "MS products are amazing." or "Thanks for posting, hope that helps!"
 
That does seem more consistent. However, I'm sure I've seen plenty of answers along the lines of "I found this tool to be really useful to do this task. First you need to ... [etc]". Are those pleasantries that need to be removed as well? Or is there a distinction between praising/criticizing specific products and entire corporations?
 
@cigien I think providing an evaluation of a tool's usefulness at doing the specific thing asked in the question is different than a much broader statement that a product/company/whatever is generally good/bad.
 
Yeah, that makes sense. Not that I recall seeing many examples of this, but I'll start editing out references to the quality of products/companies when they're not directly related to the question. Thanks.
 
No problem, it was an interesting question :-) and yeah, I don't see it too much either, but it happens every now and then.
usually the negative ones get spotted more easily, hence it coming up more in that context
 
12:57 AM
Yeah, I guess that's part of my concern. If we remove all criticism, but leave all the praise, that's a skewed representation of views. But simply removing all of it (good and bad) when not directly relevant, seems like a good approach.
 
@cigien just pointing out that moderators suggest removing paragraphs from posts which just say "Microsoft sucks"
Where "Microsoft" can be replaced with Apple, Google, Facebook etc. etc. etc.
 
What more praise that me recommending the use of X for solving problem Y?
 
@Nick Sure, and I definitely agree with removing that content as opposed to leaving it in that state. My question was more if editing it to not be a rant is ok, and if leaving it is fine if the phrasing was not ranty in the first place.
 
1:17 AM
@cigien my interpretation of this message was that you thought it was OK to say "Microsoft stinks" in an answer, because you wouldn't do anything if OP rolled back the edit where I removed it. Hence a lot of the subsequent discussion...
 
Ah, I see. I should have been clearer that I was referring to the phrasing in the message I wrote prior to that one, sorry about that.
 
@cigien no worries. We'll now resume our regular programming :)
 
:)
 
1:59 AM
@HovercraftFullOfEels Wiped the random language tags off it, if that helps (looks like the OP attempted to apply the same edit a few seconds later)
it's still...not great, but I can't quickly tell if it's answerable now
 
 
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3:48 AM
 
4:34 AM
Dear curators (slash note to self), please scour SO for pages that convert a string with two delimiters into a 2 dimensional array. There are quite a few to consolidate. Once we have isolated the best, complete answer with the best answers, let's get everything funnelled into one place. Start with this dupe list: stackoverflow.com/q/66540328/2943403
 
4:46 AM
 
5:08 AM
@EJoshuaS-ReinstateMonica Meh @ RTFM dupes. It's pretty obvious from the stack trace and code that it's a -1 from indexOf
(suggested a different dupe; it's JavaScript but the answer's the same)
 
Should I edit out the last few lines? stackoverflow.com/q/66539656/11573842
Not sure what they are. Google translate says: "Spoonful; 맅ㅋ우이; Ramer; Gibbae ㅑ Cherry blossoms; ㅓㄴ이; ㅏㄹㄴㅇㄹ"
 
It starts with "never mind this:" so I think it's filler text.
 
5:23 AM
Oh. Yeah makes sense
 
Seems like SO people fly so much on Air?
 
6:11 AM
 
6:47 AM
@gunr2171 so that took you what, 6 to 8 years? Welcome to the club. Enjoy Post 1!
 
7:26 AM
@gunr2171 Congratulations on 10k!
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This looks a lot like Python: stackoverflow.com/a/66541941 right?
 
@rene in fact it is Python
 
Okay, a bit weird then to have it on a C# question.
 
As the other answers here illustrate, C# syntax looks quite different, and the regex engine has different features than the Python one. Voting to delete as misplaced. — tripleee 28 secs ago
 
Thanks!
 
 
8:36 AM
@SurajRao cc @rene Another user seems to have added the code in. The close reason doesn't make sense. The request needs to be removed unless anyone finds a dupe..
 
9:04 AM
is this NAA?
 
9:16 AM
@SurajRao I would say no because it seems like it is trying to answer, it's just a bad answer... Isn't the question off-topic?
 
1 message moved to SOCVR /dev/null, by request
 
9:29 AM
@Tomerikoo yeah cant find much on image only answers on Meta...
 
Is this question on topic or would it belong on Code Review?
 
Looks like... I couldn't find an actual question in there...
 
@Tomerikoo improper edit.. error/warning in code snippet
 
@SurajRao Oh nice catch! I missed that. Still, it seems like Needs more Focus to me
 
Thanks! It also looks like "more focus" to me (code review and debugging)
 
9:44 AM
code review wouldnt do debugging AFAIK and according to in code comments they are talking about multiple error/warnings at different code sections...
 
Yes, Code Review needs running code. I also missed the errors.
 
this is a link-only answer, but accepted (OP give his own ans and accepted).
 
@Droid The question is closed and should be deleted, I recommend no further action. I will post a delete request here in two days
 
@Tomerikoo I just noticed , it was off-topic question
 
10:06 AM
Should have posted this as duplicate, not a typo close reason - stackoverflow.com/q/6780765/692942
 
10:25 AM
@mck FYI .. One of your cved posts is brought up on meta meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/405850/…
 
10:50 AM
SD's report above is just NAA (new question as answer)
 
mck
11:01 AM
@SurajRao thanks, I have modified the dupe list of that question.
 
this is spam?
 
@Droid vaguely yes
I only flagged as NAA and voted to delete, though
 
already vtced
 
11:50 AM
 
12:49 PM
Is an answer like this that suggests the OP to join a project (possibly their own) just NAA or worse?
 
@JeanneDark I would go with NAA and leave the promotion comment.
 
Thank you
 
@JeanneDark I reported it as NAA to Natty
 
Thanks
 
@Droid Or to Naaty? :D
 
12:55 PM
Morning
 
@Droid seems to be edited. Do you still think it needs to be closed?
 
@JeanneDark Is there some kind some trolling going on?
 
@SurajRao It still needs details or clarity
 
@Double-expresso I'm not sure I want to know what's going on there ;)
 
1:41 PM
@Makyen thanks!
now I get to read all your dirty little secrets
 
@gunr2171 Yes, the secret 10k only posts. Removed from the eyes of the public because the posts are so good.
 
: )
someone want to share with me their drugs funny deleted posts list?
 
Meh, I don't think I have a list. There was one that was amusing - somebody posted their blacklist of disallowed words for a chat or something. That was a good laugh but I didn't mark it to view later.
 
The first rule of 10K club is.....wait, someone is at the door....brb.....
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@gunr2171 Here, have some cake
 
@gunr2171 Here is some 10K fun for you: 1, 2, 3
 
: ) thanks, going to be reading through those soon
 
When Jon Skeet's code fails to compile the compiler apologises.
 
@NathanOliver XD
 
Well my reputation on RPG.SE is quite evil today
 
Not enough downvotes
 
@Dharman workin' on it
@NathanOliver I heard it also files a bug report automatically to fix the issue.
 
3:19 PM
@RyanM ...That's right, Ryan M. I had forgotten. 2k rep allows minor edits and it's a fair compromise. Apparently allowing low rep users to make minor edits produces a burden on those who approve/deny edits. ...Ok.
 
3:32 PM
My flag limit reach to 100
Just curious to know, what is the max flag limit for Natty?
 
Probably 100
 
How come I see answers posted when a question is closed??? The few times I was writing an answer while a question got closed, it blocked me from posting...
 
@Tomerikoo There's some grace period when they started writing it, I think 4 hours max or so.
 
@Tomerikoo question closed or deleted?
 
Closed
@JeanneDark Is that grace only applicable to some users? Not that I would want to post answers to closed questions anyway, just wondering how that works...
 
3:43 PM
@Tomerikoo See the MSO question I linked to. It's not some special privilege.
 
@JeanneDark Yep sorry, just read SE linked answer. So it appears to be a matter of chance
 
And might be of using a mobile device?
 
mck
no more CVs :(
 
mck
4:04 PM
@mck and I just realised dupe hammer doesn't work when I've run out of CVs!
 
@mck You're still voting to close, it's just an unanimous vote... ;)
 
mck
@Tomerikoo Made me thought of how China votes: youtube.com/watch?v=VLpUs0NEpVs
Absolutely unanimous
 
Can unanimous be unary?
 
4:27 PM
16 minutes is too much.
 
dbc
5:09 PM
@JeanneDark I think this is a development question, namely which browsers can be expected to support restricted access to cookies.
 
@dbc So the question is fine and on topic?
 
dbc
3000 helpful flags today: i.stack.imgur.com/oUITD.png
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that's a lot of flags in 1 day...
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@JeanneDark I think it is on-topic here yes. No end-user would be bothered with cookies and their secure flag, as in setting them. That is only a dev can do.
 
@rene Thanks. Then please bin the request
 
dbc
5:14 PM
We've got 310 results for "which browsers support" so I think questions like that should be OK as long as the question is coming from a development perspective, not an end-user perspective.
 
1 message moved to SOCVR /dev/null (on request)
 
Thanks
 
np
 
5:30 PM
LOL, we are going to suspend feeds from chat ... i.stack.imgur.com/n7dqu.png
 
@rene I saw that one - much confused. ;-)
... or are we suspending the freeze process?
 
we can't tell who flagged it, but we can be pretty sure they are desperate ... maybe get a mod to unfreeze their room
 
Can freezing be frozen? Who frees a frozen freezer?
 
I validated that flag. Now we wait if hell freezes over ...
 
sick
 
5:33 PM
I think your petals will become brittle and crumble into tiny shards.
 
finally sharp
 
hehe
 
@AdrianMole the maytag man
 
This quality answer is SPAM or just NAA?
 
@Droid NAA
 
5:39 PM
@rene thank you
 
6:35 PM
 
6:47 PM
review queue layout will get a little less busy (eventually): meta.stackexchange.com/questions/360198/… which is good news!
some redundant lines getting pulled to favor vertical space
 
7:12 PM
@TylerH While I'm glad to hear they're considering making some adjustment, it's very frustrating that they only make such substantial changes to the site available for public access after the point where they "can't guarantee that I'll have the time right away", or ever (based on prior experience), to make what are, frankly, relatively easy, but substantially beneficial, changes to the UI.
Those potential adjustments could have been identified quite early in the development process, if they provided mock-ups and asked for feedback earlier in the development cycle.
I know we've covered this issue before, but it's consistently frustrating.
 
@Makyen yeah I agree
these aren't time consuming changes
I don't have access to their code base and I still made them in like 15 minutes
 
Yep.
 
then again, maybe it's because I don't have access to the code base... it could be in a really bad state :-P
 
Yeah, that's possible. For other companies, I might even suggest that the issue is the time and effort necessary to go through the testing and code review process, but SE has consistently demonstrated that they basically don't have a process for testing/code review, or, at least, that whatever process does exist routinely permits obvious bugs to get through into production.
 
We could just blame Nick Craver for going on sabbatical for 3 months
but he's back now
 
9:09 PM
@MrUpsidown Do keep in mind we ask users to limit their requests and also not use the room as their personal closure assistant for every single question they come across. I notice you've made 15 requests today, and that's about the cut-off (because have to pick some number). Also, if you're targeting a specific tag or topic (like web hosting or ), that really may be more appropriate to take to Meta and host a effort.
For more info, see FAQ item #12
 
Right. Yes needs a good cleanup.
 
(FWIW this is just a friendly reminder, and I also agree with the individual requests I've seen posted so far--just don't want to see it get out of hand)
 
 
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10:32 PM
 
11:25 PM
Do you see a non-python tagged question here? stackoverflow.com/questions/tagged/python
the second one
oh, it's gone now :/
 
@AnnZen Questions that just had a tag deleted still show up in the tag search. Caching.
 
@khelwood oh
 
11:54 PM
First time I am seeing this: OP voting to close their own question! stackoverflow.com/questions/66556274/…
 

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