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12:19 AM
This question appears to have been written with both English and Portuguese versions. I ran the Portuguese version through Google Translate and it appears that the English version was written independently. Can I just edit out the Portuguese copy and leave it? Or should I vote to close as non-English.
 
@IanCampbell The English version is added by the OP so the question is fine. Just remove the non-English parts. There's already suggested edits on the question and answer that does that, so just approve those edits.
 
Based on the question author's comments, I think they will be displeased with me.
The author approved the pending edit. All is good.
 
12:35 AM
Possible. Probably not, they approved the edit that removed the non-English. Though it seems they think you downvoted so I guess it's better that you didn't approve it.
Yup :)
 
Well, I didn't. And then I thought about telling them I didn't. But you know how that goes.
 
Yeah, best avoided.
I'll often tell an OP that I downvoted followed by suggestions on how to improve the post. They always believe that :) So it goes.
 
@cigien I think I fixed the Q. if you don't agree, please rollback
 
@Vickel That looks like an improvement, both to the body and the title. Thanks for the edit.
 
^ Yeah, that might be useful now, to whoever has the same problem while installing the thing
 
12:49 AM
Yeah, mentioning the node.js version in the title will make it more searchable now.
 
@cigien btw, miss your "pipe" avatar
 
Probably better for their health though.
 
Being mad is better than having lung trouble ;)
 
@cigien still, it was a classy, very stylish avatar :)
sherlock style
 
Thanks. Felt like going for uncouth, and scruffy for a change ;)
 
12:54 AM
I've been thinking a lot about an avatar change.
 
What you have was provided as the default, right?
 
You want to change your avatar, Dharman wants to change their name, nothing is going to be the same any more.
 
@cigien I'm back to normal, got rid of the sword and the Mariachi hat
 
1:02 AM
Dogs seem to be popular, but I haven't had one in 10 years.
 
 
3 hours later…
 
1 hour later…
4:44 AM
@rene NLN :)
 
5:18 AM
 
@EJoshuaS-ReinstateMonica Minor point, you missed the reason.
 
@cigien Thanks, I corrected :)
 
Thanks :)
 
5:36 AM
What do you think about this suggested edit? stackoverflow.com/review/suggested-edits/28040160
 
@Yatin Reject with "deviates from author's intent". The edit removes way too much of the body.
 
Ok.
 
Edited
The suggested edit on that ^ was made by my sock account
I didn't flag the question with my sock
 
5:56 AM
1 message moved to SOCVR /dev/null (after consensus was reached that the question is not, in fact, off-topic)
 
6:10 AM
 
Heh. That was disconcerting.
 
Which part?
 
I had all these blue things, checking through to make sure I'd turned all the things blue that needed to be blued... and then all of a sudden all of the blue things disappeared!
 
Ahh... yeah, that can be a bit weird. :)
 
Especially because I had two windows worth of SOCVR open, and both flashed like something very weird was happening.
Hadn't ever had that perfect timing occur before.
 
6:17 AM
But, it is good to check through them. The script does, sometimes, pick some which shouldn't be moved, which can be checked in the popup. It's more likely that there will be some which should also be moved, but which aren't auto-detected. I, also, try to include any of those in a single move, which does make for more time when there's a bunch selected that someone else might move. :;
 
Well, I'm not so much checking the script's accuracy, as I am verifying the close/delete voters' accuracy. :-) Also, I use the quick scan to highlight the ones that are not still pending, so I can go through and review the ones which are still pending. I understand that there is a second script for this, but keeping only one script installed is simpler for me, and since I'm going to just move everything anyway when I get done going through it, it actually saves a step.
 
 
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8:21 AM
@mickmackusa Link to question missing
 
@JeanneDark did you change your hair?
 
That's my quarantine hair
3
 
Does a request without a link need to be binned?
 
yes
 
Ok, thanks.
 
8:25 AM
If a moderator were around, they could surreptitiously edit the missed link into the original request.
But, unfortunately, no one else can do that, so there's little choice but to just bin the original request and re-submit.
 
I see. I wasn't sure if the SOCVR request system cared about messages like that. e.g. if I just say in the middle of a message, does that matter?
 
Yes, that will delete your chat profile ....
Does that matter?
 
Probably not. Maybe someone will miss me ...
 
I'm sure we'll send an S&R team to go looking for you
 
@cigien We'd have to notice first, before we could bother with missing you
What's funny is that you think there's a "request system".
 
8:37 AM
you're the system
we all are
 
Huh, I may not be using the right terms, but there's some system y'all use to clean up the requests that are acted upon right?
 
Oh, yeah, there's a userscript.
 
I mean, why bother binning the request without a link otherwise?
 
The Archiver™
 
@cigien Because it's confusing to people who would be reviewing it in the transcript!
 
8:38 AM
@cigien I think Cody deletes them manually while reading the entire transcript ;)
 
@cigien they might show up in search as unhandeld
 
@rene An actual answer :p Thanks.
 
@cigien What was wrong with my answer?
Why did you downvote? Plz tell me!
 
@JeanneDark Yeah, probably. They already closed all the questions yesterday single-handedly.
@CodyGray It looked like homework ;)
 
8:41 AM
I put a lot of effort into making it look like that!
 
@rene Ah, Request Archiver. Thanks, I knew I was bungling the terminology.
 
The point is just that there's nothing official.
There's just a userscript that has a pattern-matcher. But that's not the real reason why stuff is archived. That's just a convention that we follow out of common-sense and a desire to be accessible.
 
Sure, but it's nice to use precise language even for unofficial stuff.
 
But it's also bad to make imprecise things seem precise with undue focus on language.
 
But now I'm sad. You won't notice if I go missing? :'(
 
8:44 AM
New phone; who dis?
 
@cigien If someone posts a cv request giving the reason homework and no one protests, we will ;)
 
@JeanneDark Ooh, burn :)
And a sick one ;)
 
I like that joke, sorry @cigien
 
Actually, sick burn is a compliment.
 
Okay, interesting
 
8:49 AM
According to Urban Dictionary, "a good way to know if you've been sick burned is that whoever has burned you will immidiatly shape his hands like two guns and immitate blowing the smoke off them on at a time and will say in a baratone voice : "sick burn", possibly with a clever smirk on his face"
I did not witness this, so I cannot be certain whether it was a sick burn.
 
Urban Dictionary has some strange definitions.
 
It's because they're community-submitted. You can't trust any site like that.
 
Haha, very true.
Community-edited is even worse.
@CodyGray Yeah, it goes against my fondness for precision, but you're right.
 
I don't see how your fondness for precision could have any issues with me being right.
 
See, precision is a good thing. Especially when chatting with snarky mods.
 
8:59 AM
Precision is indeed important. I always downlike posts that don't use the correct terminology.
 
9:12 AM
I have raised a custom flag on this post: stackoverflow.com/a/65641333/2359227 which is a duplicate of this post: stackoverflow.com/a/65640802/2359227 by the same user. Where is that reviewed?
 
@mickmackusa It's been handled already, but it's also generally preferable to link to that request to make it easier to find.
 
@TomerShetah I believe mods have an extra queue for custom flags
And posting identical answers also raises an autoflag, I think
 
@TomerShetah by mods only.
@JeanneDark yep. So it would have two flags now. One auto, one custom ....
 
@CodyGray Gah... a good example as to why that website shouldn't be trusted to define things. It does, sometimes, give a sense for what things mean, but other times it's bleh.
 
9:22 AM
It is an awesome resource. If a search for a word returns a hit on the Urban Dictionary I go look for a better synonym ...
 
@Makyen Which was more annoying to you, the spelling errors or the ridiculous description? Be honest.
 
@cigien It might be confusing to humans who look at the transcript. The Archiver will ignore it, because it doesn't have a link to a post. the Archiver could think that the message is part of a valid request formed by two chat messages if the message is a direct reply to a message with a post link, or if a post link is in a chat message which is a direct reply to it. The URRS will also filter it out of search results, if the URRS is being used to review requests.
@CodyGray The description. The spelling was annoying, but is something that tends to be able to be compensated for. The ridiculous description is intentionally spreading misinformation, which I consider a much worse offense.
 
Disappointingly rational, but fair.
On the other hand, imagining a 12-year old boy demonstrate with "pew pew" sound effects made the description palatable for me.
Real marksmen always blow the smoke off of their guns, in order to protect the barrel from smoke inhalation.
 
Not many 12 year olds have baritone voices though. Or baratone for that matter.
 
I also really don't like that the first paragraph of that entry, not the portion you quoted, the paragraph above it, helps perpetuates prejudice and social stigma.
 
9:33 AM
@JeanneDark They are not completely identical. The first one has "Does the same thing as accepted answer" suffix
 
I can baraley bara the tone.
 
@TomerShetah I'm not sure an auto-flag is raised in this case. But as rene said, custom flags are only reviewed by moderators (and visible to them).
 
@JeanneDark It doesn't raise a flag in this case as far as I know. This is why I did it. Thanks anyway for the info :)
 
@CodyGray Yes, that part is humorous, but doesn't really define the subject. It would be OK if it was clear the entry was supposed to be humor, rather than to define the term.
 
@Makyen I thought that was already made clear by the URL?
Almost everything there has a primary goal of humor, with a possibility that one might also be able to use it to intuit some meaning to phrases.
 
9:37 AM
@Makyen Ok, so apart from some corner cases, it's largely to avoid tripping up members. Thanks for the clarification.
 
@CodyGray Unfortunately, theses things tend to be taken a bit more seriously than that. It would be OK if the site itself was saying that it was humor, but they present themselves as serious.
 
@Makyen Don't even start to look up terms like Stack Overflow
 
It's part of the Internet's general caveat emptor.
@JeanneDark "The users don't play around better not fuck with them." Seems accurate to me.
 
@CodyGray Oh no, another entry in profanity search results ;)
 
9:47 AM
Oops, don't tell any mods!
 
Don't worry, haven't seen a mod in here in ages ;)
 
According to the second definition, SO has only mods.
And the definition of "moderators" is hilarious too.
Huh, is Urban Dictionary actually meant to be funny? I thought it was just a very low quality online dictionary.
 
'He created Urban Dictionary initially as a parody of actual dictionaries, which he thought tended to be "stuffy" and "take themselves too seriously".' wikipedia
 
It was created by a computer science student as a parody of actual dictionaries!
Whether it's "funny" is largely a matter of semantics.
 
^ Also not sure what "Hata Resmi" is
 
9:55 AM
@Yatin means a picture of the error message
 
Ohk
 
Weird that the rest of the post was in English.
 
The probably forgot to translate that line..
 
@CodyGray New to SO? ;)
 
Seen some cases where OPs forget the title
@JeanneDark Heh
 
9:56 AM
@JeanneDark Yeah, what is this place?
 
An underwater basket weaving forum
 
Hmm, interesting. Looks like Urban Dictionary started off as a parody, then got more serious, and now it's basically hit and miss whether definitions are actually useful or not.
 
It is kinda useful sometimes but largely nonsense IMO
 
Hard to see how a dictionary can be useful if it's largely nonsense. I usually look up a word in a dictionary when I don't know what it means. It's not great if I need to know before hand what it means.
 
Yeah, that's almost as silly as a Q&A site that requires you to know the answer to your question in advance in order to be able to judge whether it is on-topic.
 
10:04 AM
if they had mods like Stack Overflow it could turn into a useful resource
 
Is it rolled back or rollbacked?
 
rolled back
Apparently, SE has a Q&A for that: ell.stackexchange.com/questions/106534/…
 
Thanks
 
10:26 AM
@kvantour Please read the FAQ, in particular "Do not request action on posts or edits where you are involved or where you have a conflict of interest.". As the author of an answer on that post, you are involved, and are not allowed to make a request on that post.
 
@πάνταῥεῖ I think it's better if we discuss it in here, if that's ok.
 
@cigien Sure, OP changed their question meanwhile from the literal "Can someone help me ..."? You've seen that I guess?
 
@πάνταῥεῖ Yes, I did. The question was and is perfectly fine. Literally the only thing that's different is the "can someone help me?" text. Sharing the "can someone help me?" meta in that case is actively misleading. IIUC, that meta is not referring to the literal text.
 
10:33 AM
@cigien Well, I meant that the OP should rather clarify their question to something more precise, in what they're actually stuck, and they did. So what's the matter, no harm done, no?
 
@JeanneDark Is this "share your favorite Meta question day"? And you picked one where I haven't answered?
 
@CodyGray ;) I think it's relevant nonetheless
And if it was, I would have shared this question: Upvotes on questions will now be worth the same as upvotes on answers ;)
 
@πάνταῥεῖ If that's what you meant, then the meta you shared was pointless. Also, all that the OP did was remove "please help me", and added basically the same line that they already had in the question. Do you think that made the question any clearer, or precise?
 
@cigien Removed it.
 
@JeanneDark I didn't answer that one, either ;-)
 
10:37 AM
Also, the only reason no harm was done, was because it seems the OP took you literally, and removed the "please help me" text. If the OP had sincerely read the meta, it would have confused them needlessly. If your intent was that they remove that line, then you could simply edit it yourself.
 
@CodyGray True, but it's my favorite meta question ever ;) Did you lose a bet, or why did you post it?
 
@πάνταῥεῖ Thanks. Could you remove the other comment as well, linking to the revision history? Since it's now moot.
 
@JeanneDark It's a thing that happened. Everything I said was true. Why would I not post it?
 
@CodyGray Because it didn't receive that warm a reception and that was to be expected. It seems that such posts are usually posted by devs.
 
I have my ego to keep me warm.
Nah, it was actually a calculated decision. The announced policy was going to happen, whether I or anyone else liked it or not. I checked with staff, and they weren't planning to have an announcement post specifically on MSO, so I decided to post one. Two reasons: Fundamentally, I think the community has the right and should be given the opportunity to share their feedback, both with answers and with votes. Furthermore, it's much easier to moderate that feedback when it's in one place.
I wasn't worried about the inevitable downvotes.
 
10:45 AM
Sounds like a reasonable and brave decision (not that I would have expected anything else from you).
 
They serve an actual purpose.
Calling it "bravery" kinda trivializes the notion...
 
I was just trying to be nice to you...
 
@JeanneDark Oh, sorry; I'm not too familiar with that sort of thing.
 
Lesson learned. Will make no further attempt ;)
 
11:04 AM
Was I mentioned?
 
11:42 AM
@Yatin was in another room
 
12:05 PM
@Yatin you want me ping you here?
 
12:39 PM
any idea why we have , which has description that we should not use that tag? I am confused
 
1:05 PM
@Ruli to big to burn, too much of a mess to solve: meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/271356/…
 
@rene "IMO, "DO NOT USE" is there to solve a problem in our tag system, yet it does not practically solve anything.
 
right
 
that is part of answer, makes sense, I am thinking about doing request for something like "blocked" tags, that would still exist for this reason but cannot be assigned to new questions
 
1:30 PM
funny there was already a request to block users from using those tags, even with quite nice concept in an answer, sad it was not used
 
1:58 PM
@pretzelhammer It needs a better title. How will people find such question? If the question is to remain on the site it has to be something that people will search for
 
@Dharman I think the title is specific enough, but if you think it can be better you should edit it and then vote to reopen it if your only issue with the question is the title.
 
@pretzelhammer Well, what issues?
The question is very open ended. "What is wrong with my code?"
 
@Dharman the algo he's trying to implement needs to return values 0..1 and he's getting NaNs/Infinities, according to his question.
 
If the question is how to debug or how to design then at least we know what they are asking. At the moment the title fails to describe to me what the question is about
 
2:38 PM
@pretzelhammer Including the name of the model/algo in the title is a must if you are having problem with an algorithm
There are many kinds of reaction-diffusion systems, they even have categories in the lower levels.
 
3:12 PM
The OP in this question says their problem is not a duplicate. Any Python folks here want to take a view on it?
 
3:35 PM
 
@RobertColumbia what would you like to see in the question? I am not convincrd that this page should be closed. Please convince me and leave a comment that requests your desired missing details.
 
@mickmackusa The entire php tag, I'm okey with that.
 
LOL
 
3:56 PM
@mickmackusa Missing link to the question
 
I linked directly to Robert's cvpls. stackoverflow.com/q/53066929 click the curly arrow.
(Going to bed now)
 
The message I linked to was neither a reply to another question nor contained a link
 
4:15 PM
Is this question, What is the fastest way to turn List that holds a class with fields into multiple arrays?, off-topic for this site, and if so, by what close-vote mechanism? It is asking how to make working code "faster". thanks
 
Looks fine to me
 
The question itself seems OK. I don't know enough about the technology to be sure it's clear.
 
Fair enough. Thanks for the review
 
@DontKnowMuchButGettingBetter Rather by off topic, try instead "can this be reasonably authoritatively answered"
 
4:28 PM
@Braiam thanks
 
5:21 PM
 
@cigien I don't really see how I would have a conflict of interest by re-opening a question, especially when the mentioned duplicate is just related at best. Furthermore, it would allow others to answer the question and would not change anything for me my answer was there before the close. The only conflict of interest I have is that I have an interest in removing false duplicates. I could come up with a multitude of cases where the rule which you reference is applicable, but here I disagree!
I generally don't care about reputation. I generally help people in the comments pointing them to correct answers or giving them quick fixes. All this does not build up reputation. So I don't see any conflict of interest here.
 
@kvantour There is nothing to stop you from voting to reopen a question that you have answered. However, there are rules in this room that you are not allowed to ask here for 'help' in reopening such a question. Read the FAQ linked at the page upper right: the rule is very explicit.
 
5:39 PM
Regarding the SD report above -- is that spam? the OP is requesting off-site help via a whatsapp ID number
 
@kvantour While I understand your point of view, the issue of permitting reopen-pls requests on questions which you've answered was explicitly discussed as part of the room meeting in 2018-08 and the subsequent in-SOCVR discussions. While there was support for permitting it, there were also objections. The overall choice was to have the rules not permit requests where you're "involved" with the post, without an exception for reopen-pls.
While reopen-pls requests in such circumstances are often just that the requestor really believes the question should be open, the requestor does, potentially, benefit. Even if all such requests have no motive other than that the requestor feels it's a non-duplicate, on-topic question and should be open, allowing such requests could give the appearance that we're allowing people here to use SOCVR for personal benefit. We desire to stay away from both the appearance of that and the actuality.
 
ninja'd ....
 
6:04 PM
@Makyen Thanks for the detailed reasoning. I'll keep it in mind.
 
np. Thanks.
 
6:39 PM
waffles
 
Not Waffles™? Or is that mod-only usage?
 
Actually, I thought I was honoring @rene's, or someone else's, trademark when adding that symbol. :)
 
 
What to do with stackoverflow.com/q/65657169/18157? I can see it if it were CW, but it looks like it exists merely to repeat documentation available elsewhere, and maybe gain some rep from the simultaneous answer. Is this type of question really on-topic?
 
@JimGarrison You can always downvote if you think it's not useful.
It looks like a good question to me.
 
@JimGarrison Self-answered questions are not directly a problem. If they do not plagiarize, then it's all a matter of how useful they are.
 
@JimGarrison looks on-topic to me
 
Actually, I would say that such questions deserve an upvote. We want more of such posts.
@JimGarrison So in conclusion, upvote it if you think that it is correct and not plagiarized. Downvote if you see something incorrect or not useful in general. If you think you can add something to the topic then write another answer.
 
7:04 PM
It's one of those questions which are likely to accumulate upvotes over time, even if the question itself looks overly simple.
 
I would love to see more pople write such Q&A. I think they even deserve bounties.
 
Ey, calm down there! Keep some rep for the downvotes. ;)
 
I only upvoted it. I don't know enough about Java to give a bounty right now. If someone wants to though, I think it would be a good idea.
 
7:20 PM
 
7:50 PM
We need more mods.
 
8:01 PM
@Dharman for what
 
To close and delete questions, suspend users, delete accounts, etc.
 
Meh, SO is too big to handle
Besides they're not even paid
The only benefit is the satisfaction from pissing people off
 
bad day?
 
nah, my usual mood
 
More moderators make moderation madder.
... just testing my "m" key. xD
 
8:08 PM
I don't know about the rest, but I constantly feel overwhelmed. I need some help to moderate SO.
mmmmmmmmh
 
ine has interittent probles
 
@Dharman don't you have anything else to do?
 
PHP folks don't want me helping them either.
It looks to me like nobody wants to change anything.
 
I don't think it's not wanting to change things, more a case of fatigue.
 
8:14 PM
@Dharman I'm a PHP folk, and I am happy to get your help :=)
 
Can you have a singular "folk?"
 
@AdrianMole Good point. Does my split personality allow me to refer to myself in the plural?
 
Only if you are a nation or group of people with a cultural identity.
 
@AdrianMole If peoples is grammatical folk should be too, no?
 
@AdrianMole Hmm, I keep arguing with myself, so I am not sure the folk in my head agree on much at all, never mind anything as complex as a culture.
 
8:16 PM
"folk" is a collective noun, IIRC. Can't be bothered with Groogling it.
 
The funny thing is that it is normal for me to say "Hey folks" when greeting people. But why is it normal for me to pluralise it when "Hey folk" would have meant the same thing? { ponder }
@Dharman It seems to me that your volunteer work here is excellent - as long as you keep doing what you do, and take steps to avoid burn-out, then you don't need to do anything new.
 
"folk" address the group as a whole; "folks" addresses them as a collection of individuals. [/making-it-up-as-you-go-along]
 
:=)
 
Soon I might get PHP hammer, and I am pretty sure I will abuse it.
 
We could award folkses a "Burnt Out" badge.
 
8:21 PM
If there was a hammer to close questions for any reason and then delete them it would be so much better. Right now there is just no way to clean up some stuff
 
@Dharman Please don't. I know it's tempting (I have a new C++ hammer but, if I have any doubt, I don't cast the Close Vote).
 
@Dharman Your version will have internet-enabled cattle prods, and they will be attached to the chairs of lazy PEBCAC contributors { giggle }
 
@AdrianMole address or addresses
 
I only have one dress.
 
@oguzismail I was wearing my lovely weekend address today, even though I had nowhere to go!
snort
 
8:25 PM
... but I have two sheeps.
 
@AdrianMole then you're using it wrong, more than half of the questions on SO are garbage. I don't think there's anything wrong with using your hammer to clean up some
I didn't get the dress joke, or it wasn't funny idk
 
@oguzismail I disagree strongly. Misusing a hammer to close something that isn't clearly a duplicate is just wrong. A mod has also (in here) agreed with me, using words along the lines of slippery slope to suspension.
@oguzismail Both, probably.
 
@oguzismail Wot! It was hilarious, based on my thinking of the same joke at the same time
 
great minds think alike ... or .. fools seldom differ
2
 
a dress != address
 
8:32 PM
... or great fools seldom think
 
For every bad question on the site there exists another one that can be used as a duplicate.
 
^I second this
 
But, if a question should be closed for "needs details" or "seeking recommendations," then I would say that hammering it as a dupe would be misuse/abuse of one's privilege.
 
You see I already have a bunch of questions like this stackoverflow.com/questions/29484584/… waiting for my PHP hammer. From there I only need 2 people to help me delete... Sounds like a plan
 
I think the end justifies the means there. You can downvote the question later to get it roombad, and the problem's gone away
 
8:37 PM
Not if it is accepted and has upvoted answers
 
That's why you should be fast
 
If SO wanted to give gold-taggers a general close hammer, then they would. The fact that the hammer is only for dupe means, quite clearly, that it should only be used for dupes.
 
@Dharman This is certainly a bad question...but shouldn't that one be closed as "needs debugging details", since it does not have any non-image code?
 
Yeah, whatever
 
Correct, but how can a single person close that question
 
8:39 PM
Closing something as a dupe doesn't necessarily imply poor quality, or that the Q is off-topic. Other close reasons do just that.
 
The only way is to use an existing duplicate. If it was a new question then there would be hope that 2 more people would vote to close as No MCVE
 
... so they are fundamentally different animals.
 
But you can't tell me that the duplicate target is not the right one.
 
I voted for No MCVE, but it does not seem like I was in the majority there...
The target is fine.
 
latest SD is spam btw, flag-pls
 
8:43 PM
It's just an example... I am not looking for your help to close it now. But when I will encounter such questions that have duplicate targets on the site then I think I will hammer them. Of course, the duplicate has to make sense.
 
But closing a poor question as a dupe bucks the system. If it (say) has code-as-image, then it should be closed as "needs details" and downvoted. Closing as a dupe could, ultimately, prolong the process of deletion.
 
Not in this case.
 
I agree that the current tooling is suboptimal, and I am in favor of giving extended closing powers to gold (or even silver) badge holders, even just to handle more of the bad questions that are coming in every day.
But hammering really bad and old questions as dupes instead of closing them for a more fitting reason feels...weird, although I of course see your point. The ultimate goal is getting such questions deleted, and then the close reason does not matter that much anymore.
I'd refrain from using a dupe hammer in those cases, since there obviously does not appear to be consensus that this is acceptable, and it does not really help getting suspended for this. Glad that I am still a few hundred points and posts away from a possible gold hammer, so it is more of a theoretical question for me personally ;)
 
9:19 PM
 
 
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10:30 PM
@Dharman There appears to be some doubt as to whether using a hammer on this question is ok. In my opinion, this is completely acceptable, and is by no means an abuse of the hammer privilege. The fact that the question could have been closed as No MCVE due to the image of code doesn't change the fact that it's also a duplicate. Using a hammer to be able to single-handedly close the question is perfectly fine, so long as the target is correct.
I'm not saying you should close such questions as a duplicate necessarily, since that affects whether the post will be roomba'ed, and that might be a factor that you want to account for. I'm only claiming that the closure itself is not an abuse of the hammer privilege. In fact, I was not aware this was contentious at all, and if there isn't a meta that discusses this already, I'd be happy to write one.
There also seems to be an opinion that one might get suspended for such a closure, and I don't think that's at all the case. Note that once you get the hammer, you might be tempted to close otherwise close-worthy questions with an RTFM target (the "how to use a debugger" post being a canonical example of this), because that allows you to do so single-handedly. This is not acceptable, and can certainly merit a suspension, as has been pointed out by at least one moderator.
 
10:53 PM
 
 
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11:59 PM
@Dharman Very much agree. I have felt very close to burning out / giving up because of the ceaseless tide of bad content. This room has saved me from that fate by helping to curate effectively. Prior to engaging in this room, I was voting to close, leaving clear comments to provoke others to close, but rep farmers were still answering Q's, neutralizing my downvotes, and my close votes faded away. Soul destroying.
 

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