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5:05 PM
@JonClements heh. Marathons aren't my preferred distance =} ... used to run ~ 3 halfs (between 18 & 25k,) a week. ... and I definitely don't enjoy events :)
 
@treyBake Also, MagicEditor should, under most conditions, automatically inline images for you. If you have not been using it, I should specifically mention: MagicEditor is not perfect. It does a good job, but sometimes messes up. You need to review the changes it makes to verify that all of them are appropriate and accurate. There are times when the changes are bad enough that I just start over and not use it.
However, most of the time it is a significant time saver.
 
@TylerH Reasonable aim ... dare I ask your approximate age? :)
 
@Makyen BTW, I think you should fix a bug appeared after SO developers introduced the code blocks from GitHub (```). Magic Editor removes them.
 
@tink what seems aeons ago when I did sports at school, I did the 100m, 200m, 400m, 1600m... never in any impressive times that are going to break record books or such (but fairly better than the other 2k students), but use to do 'em. These days, the mere idea of doing a 100m sprint is umm... not welcomed
 
@JonClements heh. Couple of years I never bothered with runs under 10 k =D ... atm I'm glad to complete one of 8 ;)
 
5:11 PM
I use to run vertically. That's called rock climbing.
 
@Jean done that as well on a weekend away - for a "relaxing break"
not sure how in the heck climbing something is "relaxing" but oh well
 
@double-beep Not a "bug", that's an enhancement :-). It's actually status-by-old-design. Using code fences meant that the user had attempted to put something in code format, but failed. It was actually very good for ME to change it to actual code format by indenting. However: Yes, ME does need to be updated so it no longer does that, now that SE has implemented code fences in their Markdown.
 
@Jean think I managed 170m before I lost grip (paws aren't great for climbing) and was just left floating about for a bit on the cord
 
@double-beep It's something that's on the list of things to do. I remind myself that it needs to be done by having a revisit set for the announcement of the change every 2 days.
 
5:25 PM
@tink 28; I turn 29 in July
 
@TylerH then you can surely get close to the teenage times :) again!
 
thta's the hope! but first, lunch...
 
heh
 
@JonClements try with a rope to be relaxed.
170m is high! I climb indoors. Opportunities to climb outdoors are rare with the kids.
 
170m is quite high
in fact that's several pitches up!
 
5:36 PM
depends on the difficulty but that's, let's say 8 pitches.
 
sure; easily quite more than you'd do in one length of rope, is my point
 
What's a pitch? /me ducks and covers
 
even with very easy cliffs, 8 pitches is challenging enough
 
a pitch is a way you can separate sections of climbing tall vertical rock races into manageable bits
climbing ropes are typically 50m, 60m, or 70m long
 
you can rest between each pitch that still counts as "non cheating"
 
5:37 PM
so you don't want to try climbing something that tall or taller unless you're willing to do the dangerous practice of 'simul climbing'
 
I see .... I was thinking cricket and didn't get the two together :)
 
a pitch starts and ends with a spot where you can "anchor" to the wall, typically in a safe way, in order to rest, as Jean-Francois mentioned
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and change ropes, reset, switch the order of climber and belayer, etc.
For example, the Nose of El Capitan in Yosemite Valley is around 900m tall and is broken into 30 or so pitches
 
can I mod-flag a post to say a moderator to redact sth or only OPs can do it?
 
@double-beep moderators are the only ones who can truly redact posts, and it takes two
if you see something that should be removed, even from the revision history, mod flag and explain
it takes 2 moderators to do so
 
yeah, I saw a password.
 
5:40 PM
examples would be - PHI or PII, credit card information, etc., extremely sensitive images, and so on
 
another person removed it from the post editing it.
 
it'll still be in the revision history
 
@double-beep That's a good first step, but it's still a good idea to have it redacted. Of course, the OP should consider the password blown and change it.
 
mods can redact (delete) revision history but it takes two of them (because it's overwriting data in the database)
also yes, a comment to OP about changing their password would be in order
 
help
a user just copied my answer
 
5:44 PM
@excitedmicrobe the appropriate thing to do if someone copies your work is flag the copy for plagiarism, linking to your answer in the flag
 
thank you @TylerH
 
@excitedmicrobe please don't post oneboxes; edit your message to include some text.
@excitedmicrobe don't target at specific users. Just say a user copied my answer.
 
Oh gotcha
 
@excitedmicrobe the best solution is to mod-flag and leave a comment in their post.
 
5:47 PM
wait for mods now.
 
for what it's worth I don't think the answer is a copy
 
@Makyen it is time to move the onebox away.
 
I think the implementation is significantly differentiated compared to yours
 
@double-beep just a moment.
 
what is a one box
see the previous edit
 
@excitedmicrobe Many people come up with the same answer. If they started writting theirs before you and took more time it is easy to beleive they didn't even see your answer posted. In a case like this I'd just leave it alone. I'm doubtful a mod would do anything.
 
@excitedmicrobe they edited their post.
 
well, it doesn't really matter
as long as the op get's the correct solution
 
@excitedmicrobe ok, just retract the mod-flag, so it won't be declined
 
5:52 PM
@excitedmicrobe In general, this room avoids the use of onebox formatting. A onebox is where the SE chat system formats your message to be a summary of the post you have linked, or shows an image you've linked in the chat message. This happens when the only thing in your chat message is the URL. The system formating your message as a onebox can be avoided by adding any text along with the URL.
While one-boxes are not completely banned, the desire is to keep them to a minimum. "When posting a URL, use link syntax to make the link flow with the text, like look at [this post](//www.example.com/)." or add any text to your bare URL message. Please visit socvr.org and read the FAQ. There's a bunch of information in the FAQ as to interacting in SOCVR.
@excitedmicrobe ^
 
@excitedmicrobe BTW, I ran a test to see if this user's post was really a plagiarism in the SOBotics room from Guttenberg, a bot designed to find plagiarism. See the results. Your answer is not included.
 
@TylerH wow that was almost "the great outdoors" chatroom for a while. Refreshing. Didn't know so many SOCVR lurkers were climbers.
Now work got in the way :)
 
@double-beep direct me to the SObotics room, i just discovered room chats on SO and it's amazing :d
 
just click SOBotics room.
 
@excitedmicrobe the link is in the message you are replying to
 
6:00 PM
@tripleee he doesn't reply anywhere :)
 
@excitedmicrobe BTW: When you hover the mouse over a message there's an inline menu of some icons shown on the right. The right-turn icon will cause your next chat message to be an actual reply to the message on which you clicked the icon. For instance, this message is a reply to one of yours. When you do that, the new message (the reply) has a left-turn icon on the left. You can then click on that to go to the message to which its replying. In addition, the reply gets highlighted on hover.
 
6:17 PM
@Makyen thank you, noted
 
BTW does someone know the whereabouts of Martin James and Olaf/too honest for this site regulars ? They went off the radar at some point...
 
@Begueradj sorry, not a suitable topic for this particular room
 
@Jean-FrançoisFabre Olaf is suspended IIRC
 
Damn.
I suppose he went too far, several times. I didn't particularly notice issues in chat though, and yes he isn't the most enthusiast person I've ever met when it comes to c, but what I saw was professional.
 
6:24 PM
@Jean should you get elected - you'll have access to that info of why and how and all that... until then... you'll just have to trust the mods
 
off topic but are there any python experts here
 
@Jean-FrançoisFabre Chat profile for Martin James. They have not been seen on chat for 114 days.
 
@Makyen but have been seen on the site within the last hour
 
@JonClements I trust the mods and I don't want to pry. I guess he must have p**ssed them off 😀
Actually, I checked Martin profile, expecting a suspension (a reason why he wouldn't chat anymore), but not Olaf :)
 
Can't say anything about it - there's reasons "stuff happens" and it's not taken lightly
 
6:26 PM
Maybe Martin is targetting his gold badges again. Would be good.
@JonClements I don't expect you to. If you did, you'd be in trouble. And I'm pretty much starting to know the guy so I have my idea.
At least they're alive. That's something.
 
@Jean don't make speculations... when you're a mod - errr, you just know what's going on which you can never share with other non-mods.
 
@Jean-FrançoisFabre Jon could tell you, but he'd have to kill you ban you from the site :P
 
...and then kill you
 
Well, yeah. He's got a ninja code to uphold
 
okay, let's say it doesn't matter then.
I'm not a stalker/pry kind of guy anyway. Didn't even check Olaf profile (I could have).
I liked the aside talk with them, that's all.
@excitedmicrobe well, I suppose we could join some if we wanted. Why?
 
6:33 PM
@excitedmicrobe there's a separate Python room
 
being a mod is great... but be under no illusions it's "easy"
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under no illusions? huh?
@excitedmicrobe if you need some dupe hammering, that can be done here, though :)
 
you are not familiar with the phrase? don't imagine it's not hard
 
I get it now. yeah like the spiderman stuff. I think I can imagine that.
Well, given the number & quality of candidates having 40/40 + a zillion years on the site, that will probably be in the future for me.
 
We should have submitted an SOCVR group nomination instead
 
6:38 PM
haha right.
 
Candidate score: 24,750
 
@StephenKennedy I'm sure rene would love that. "We're not a voting mob, but we want to collectively be an SO moderator"
 
that would rock.
We could at last do what Like Martin James suggested once: start all questions closed.
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meh... the more someone could get nominated from here - I could retire :)
 
@JonClements that's nice. But stay.
 
6:43 PM
@Jean no intent of leaving just yet... nearly 4 years and knowing people/things, is kinda good... but some day... we all have to pass it onto another
 
@JonClements wait until you are really fed up, or you may regret it.
 
haha... there's a huge amount of "knowing"
retirement will be later :)
 
@JonClements since you recently got 100k don't you think it's more and more difficult to find good python questions to answer to?
I'm really feeling it those last months.
 
@Jean-FrançoisFabre Same is true for lots of tags :/
 
6:56 PM
@Jean not really... there's other things to do that you don't know about
 
you mean? I think that I'm running in circles sometimes on the answering side. When you're doing the same stuff at work for years in python, you tend not to learn new stuff, so you cannot "grow" with the data science python modules (bigdata, pandas, ...) or image processing, where there's demand.
I know very well Windows + python stuff, just because windows sucks, I get rep.
the good news is: if I'm elected I'm not going to waste time trying to answer too much questions like I did a few years ago.
 
7:21 PM
now op comment: "oh, the downvote fairies are at it again"... I don't like being insulted.
 
user10976548
@Jean-FrançoisFabre Where?
 
Typical user who makes no effort fixing warnings in their code, doesn't listen to advice and doesn't want to be helped.
@Vakore see my last cv-pls request. Hurry up because I've flagged it :)
 
@Jean-FrançoisFabre :-D climbing ftw
unfortunately I don't have regular access to a gym anymore
 
@TylerH that's bad
I've noticed that in some places, since there's rock everywhere, there are no climbing gyms because "people climb outdoors". Except for those with kids, other duties, etc...
My climbing gym is a 7-minute car ride from work. Convenient. outdoors, it's at least 1h30 to go there...
plus you notice you forgot your shoes when you reach the cliff ... :)
I forgot my sling once... fortunately there were rings on rocks at ground level and we could toprope without needing another sling to belay... not the complete waste of time.
 
it's not too bad to go climbing outdoors here... it's about 1.5 to 3 hours away but you can go in any direction, north, south, east, west and there's different opportunities
and if you're a college student or faculty member at the university, they have their own 50 foot rock wall and boulder wall as part of the gym facilities, but they don't allow public access anymore which is a shame
the nearest climbing facilities are great but all 1.5 hours away as well, so that makes weekday climbing before or even after work out of the question
and if I were to go climb on the weekend it'd be a whole day affair because for 3 hours of driving I'd want to get at least 3 or 4 hours of climbing in
 
7:41 PM
@TylerH I see... running then... Or a whole week with tent or sleeping in the truck or whatever.
@HovercraftFullOfEels "you need to learn java". now that's good.
 
@Jean-FrançoisFabre: but don't we all need to learn this?
 
I've learned java, then I forgot.
 
user10976548
Dang it Machavity, I was going to edit that.
 
I can script teh javas
 
once you know php and DIY you can do java & javascript.
 
7:51 PM
@Jean-FrançoisFabre I own a circular saw. That qualifies me to do Java?
 
100%
@Machavity only thing is: you need fingers to code. So better be careful with that saw.
(even CTRL+C/CTRL+V needs fingers)
 
@Jean-FrançoisFabre In PHP you can't smash your fingers
 
@Jean-FrançoisFabre nah, some people code via alternate input! I want to write code by just thinking about it and having the computer do all the programming for me :-P
 
damn flicker no account ...
@TylerH like the Chuck Norris meme: "I don't use debuggers, I stare at the code until it confesses".
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Apparently works for Jeff Atwood still
 
7:55 PM
@Jean-FrançoisFabre is it like this? pics.me.me/… cc @Machavity
 
8:08 PM
@TylerH works. Chainsaw for python! the meme link is just great.
 
user10976548
Javascript isn't baby scissors though.
 
8:24 PM
@Vakore I thought they were saying JS was paper edge cutters
 
user10976548
@Machavity Oh. Well, I don't find it just decoration either, as it is pretty good for making 2D platformers.
 
The Incredible Machine?
 
user10976548
@Jean-FrançoisFabre That was made with Javascript?
 
8:49 PM
@Vakore nope, it's old, but it has scissors in it.
 
user10976548
9:43 PM
That is a false alarm. That was comment code.
 
9:53 PM
Are programming games on topic? The tag is newly created with a single question, apparently about progressing in a game about twilio
 
@ErikA We certainly don't need a tag for it. As for the question, I'm not seeing any programming content so I've gone 'unclear'
OP is "a developer evangelist with Twilio"
 
Oh... Well, I've gone off-topic -> SF on it, can't see how it relates to programming as well and think one of their employees asking about a game they developed here certainly is not appropriate
Also, on the new tag watch, and , just created by an employee at the company developing it, seem on-topic but excerpts have a severe case of ad-speech. Dunno wat to really do about it, not knowledgeable enough to rewrite them and discarting the excerpt doesn't really seem appropriate
 
10:09 PM
 
Mat
Hi there. Can anyone explain to me the reason of this declined flag ?
[The question](https://stackoverflow.com/questions/55068999/script-not-progressing-beyond-the-first-conditional-statement)
First time using chat for this
 
@Mat what was your flag?
 
Mat
I VC'd it as Off-Topic
I seems some have marked it as a duplicate of that: stackoverflow.com/questions/20673288/what-does-return-do
 
@Mat there was a review: stackoverflow.com/review/close/22412224 with leave open as outcome
that would decline your flag
 
Mat
Hmm. Do you guys agree with that review then ?
 
10:11 PM
 
Mat
Oh, didn't know I could see that
 
Zoe
@Mat Nope. It's closed now
 
Mat
Thanks Zoe.
 
Kind of silly how a majority can vote to close a question in review and it can still be kept open...
@Mat unfortunately there's no link to those pages, you just have to modify the URL to see it
 
Mat
Ohh I see. Well thanks for the useful info
 
10:13 PM
@Mat reviews can't be undone, so it doesn't matter if we agree or not. We can take another look at a post and decide if it needs a retry in a queue, maybe with extra comments or an edit
 
@Mat Thanks for working to keep the site clean
 
Mat
I'm not the best at it but I try haha
Have like 8 disputed flags and 70 helpful
 
disputed is not a problem
 
and this one would have been disputed rather than declined, surely?
 
Mat
Should have been initially yes haha
 
10:15 PM
good, no problem then :)
 
Mat
Alright see ya !
 
Can't see any API KEY.
 
@BhargavRao poof
 
10:28 PM
:-)
 
:^)
 
@double-beep that's an example of a mod redaction, btw ^ stackoverflow.com/posts/55071806/revisions
less than 100 close votes away from 17k cv reviews now... my bone are creaking
 
@TylerH wow, that is a lot of reviews, good work
 
11:07 PM
good work
 
@TylerH Great! That's a huge number of reviews.
 
11:25 PM
@ErikA I went unclear, you went off-topic, and the final consensus was too broad :)
@ErikA Similar predicament. I would likely have rejected those if they'd come up in the edit queue (as adverts or copied content), but I have neither the rep nor the knowledge to deal with them now they exist. Maybe @makyen or @rene can advise?
 
11:40 PM
@HovercraftFullOfEels I hate being out of downvotes and close votes :(
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@StephenKennedy @ErikA So far, I've only looked at the (info). Both the tag excerpt and tag wiki are direct copies from at least here. While the edit summary states that it's from "featureflags.io", it does not provide any actual attribution, or even the actual page from which it was taken. I consider it plagiarism.
 
@Makyen Do you have any domain knowledge on whether the tag is legitimate? Some famous names are quoted (Fowler, Facebook) so I'm curious as to why the tag didn't already exist. Perhaps it should be a synonym?
 
@StephenKennedy Not specific to LaunchDarkly. I'm still scanning over what they have on their site. To be honest "feature-flag" feels a little generic to be using as a tag for a specific product. Implementing flags for features really isn't a new idea, nor something specific to a language, release methodology, or CMS. I'm still looking for what differentiates "feature-flag" from a flag for a feature.
 
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