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4:56 AM
@NileshRathod Nah. It is a link-only answer, though. Flag/vote as you see fit.
 
@MikeM. thank you
 
5:37 AM
I have no idea what ^ is?
 
6:00 AM
@Olaf I've sent you a notable mail
 
@πάνταῥεῖ There is no Olaf.
 
@Makyen I am pretty sure he's around here :)
@toohonestforthissite
 
@πάνταῥεῖ Nope. There's no user by that name. Did the name autocomplete when you tried to @ ping it?
@πάνταῥεῖ Now, that user is here. :-)
 
He recently changed his nick :)
I've got his eMail address anyways now :P
 
That works. :-)
 
6:06 AM
THX for noticing anyways ...
 
@Makyen Not more. But there was. I didn't change my avatar intentionally.
@πάνταῥεῖ Sorry, I'll just killed some time, my bedroom was just too hot. I'll check now if it has cooled down a bit (or I'm now tired enough to get some sleep)
@πάνταῥεῖ: I'll read it later, good night!
 
@toohonestforthissite I probably need another beer to get into that state ;-)
@toohonestforthissite N8
 
@toohonestforthissite Yep. I, and I assume others, appreciate that. Seeing the name with the same avatar was the first indication of the name change. Your mentioning that it takes time for the change to propagate to other sites also tended to highlight it.
night o/
 
I am already wondering why my nick and avatar served that well all over these years :3
Nothing changed XD
 
 
 
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thx
 
 
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10:44 AM
 
11:05 AM
 
11:32 AM
Those moments you are soo deep into what you are doing you can't see the blatantly obvious anymore :)
 
11:53 AM
Martin james the dentist :P
 
@AndréKool lol, I persevered with that server/client question so I could reference it next time some meta poster moans that we should be helping newbies and spending time on helpful comments:)
 
12:21 PM
Are such kind of jokes considered harmful or unwelcoming?
 
@πάνταῥεῖ Maybe some people will feel offended, I don't know. We probably should err on the side of caution. Also, I don't think it really adds anything useful to your answer that (as far as I can see) says enough.
 
OP was asking back :-/
Thus I felt it's useful to add the illustration
 
12:39 PM
@πάνταῥεῖ To me your comment is more meaningful than the illustration. But that's all just my opinion. I happen to be not a big fan of such prominent distractions.
 
@GertArnold I see! Full soup nazi ;)
 
1:05 PM
^spam
 
@πάνταῥεῖ I think illustration is fine... but wouldn't undefined behavior mean that Bernard could be barking at any tree :)
 
@DalijaPrasnikar I have to admit, I didn't find a better picture that quickly ;)
 
1:18 PM
Hey Hover! I'd appreciate to hear your opinion: meta.stackexchange.com/questions/312955/…
 
@πάνταῥεῖ: opinion expressed
 
Is this answer spam? (it was posted 3 times so far and the link used in a answer on smokeys last report_
 
1:34 PM
@AndréKool I would flag for a mod, it definitely looks like promotion of a product.
 
@AndréKool: yep, the rubber stamp answers by them self, even without the link, is not good
 
@HovercraftFullOfEels ty
Did I find the final pearl to describe the nature of undefined behavior?
 
user3956566
2:06 PM
@rene curious to find how the table between close reasons and Posts are linked/ post history. if PostHistoryTypeId = 10 / how do I query CloseReasonId SEDE?
 
2:26 PM
@YvetteColomb it is in the comment field of the PostHistory table
 
user3956566
@rene ah thank you. It was driving me crazy
 
although comment is a nvarchar field it does convert automatically if you join on it, sql server magic FTW
 
user3956566
yes
 
user3956566
@rene how is it written? CloseReasonId=x
 
just a number that acts as foreignkey to closereasons
 
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2:29 PM
cheers
 
@yve Cool to see you active. I'd appreciate your opinion as well meta.stackexchange.com/questions/312955/…
 
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@πάνταῥεῖ I'd rather you just don't ping me. No need to reply.
 
Still that weird stage of communication yet. Well, well no worries.
I am not going to ping you further anymore @yve
Ignorance is bliss, moksha
 
@πάνταῥεῖ don't forget that we're extremely busy and most likely focusing on other stuff - pinging us if we're not engaged in a conversation regarding something anyway or you're invited to is extremely distracting. Also - it's in the room rules and I'm sure you don't went rene to remind you of it :)
 
@JonClements I didn't ping you in particular
 
2:44 PM
Never mind that you just did... but in general - don't ping mods here unless it's an on-going conversation or you know you're welcome to... I can't make it any clearer... so no pinging any mods...
 
There are completely different concerns, but as said, well, well ...
 
We don't want to force the mods to avoid the chat rooms, especially this one.
or even encourage them to avoid them
 
@Jon Tappy Dog. It's simple @yve will ignore me, and I'll ignore her for future. There's nothing to discuss, period.
 
Can anyone tell if this answer was spam deleted or normally deleted? (If it's spam I get to poke the mods again :) )
 
Although I'm tempted to ping Yvette as there is a meta question that concerns one of her recent actions
@AndréKool: normally deleted, not spam deleted
 
2:49 PM
@Hovercraft no need - we do actually notice such things...
 
@JonClements, OK, thanks. Note that I didn't ping her ;)
 
@HovercraftFullOfEels You better don't. Eel beards look offensive :P
 
(but I did reply to you)
 
@HovercraftFullOfEels Thanks
 
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@HovercraftFullOfEels that's fine. The mods alert each other
 
2:52 PM
Anyway... enough about pinging... how the heck did that Burnination Board Game in the starred list get up to nearly half a million quid on Kickstarter?
 
@JonClements And the moment I look somone else donates...
 
3:06 PM
Hmmm, I did not expect to see a mod closing aquestion in the tag I'm following
 
@AndréKool: why is that?
 
@AndréKool They sometimes sit in invis in the room. I've had a few just randomly closed by a passing mod
 
Yeah, but useually I'm the one making the request here
 
@AndréKool: just don't ping them. Ever
 
@HovercraftFullOfEels I never do that. I just throw flags at them :P
 
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3:09 PM
@AndréKool flags are good
 
Or a mod pings me about an NAA flag (again)
 
Flags are always preferred
 
Obviously memory is volatile: Pinging moderators is still not acceptable in this room.
 
@rene Should we ping RO's instead?
 
(I hear that people who try that too often end up screaming... "the flower... not the flower... noo.... I'm sorry.... I'm sorry... please!!!! :p)
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(and if you do hear from them again... they're never quite the same...)
 
3:23 PM
@AndréKool you're obviously trying to find out if you can ...
 
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@JonClements it is wise to always carry a water can and some scooby snacks in this room
 
waffles
that's probably a lot of pings, I'm doomed ...
 
I won't ping you. This weather is making me irritating :(
 
user3956566
waters rene from watering can
 
user3956566
waters Andre from watering can
 
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3:30 PM
Between a ping in here and a meta post, I've been totally side tracked for an hour. I actually forgot what I was doing :/
 
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@JonClements that's so cute... and two can play at that.. ;)
 
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4:15 PM
@TinyGiant Maybe they were trying to bump the post.
 
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@Radiodef No, they couldn't figure out how to embed that code sample. If you switch between markdown and rendered it is fairly obvious what was going on there. They followed up with a comment: "rollback very good when you make a mess in the formatting. Solved it now thanks"
 
4:41 PM
> Any help you could lend an old man would be very much appreciated.
new one for me. :P
 
@Makyen That makes sense, thanks for the link
I like the idea of using GH gists for them
 
5:01 PM
@Makyen I'm pretty sure I posted a request yesterday
 
@toohonestforthissite You did, how come the name change? Missed you for a second
 
@NickA Thanks. I should have doubled checked. I usually do, but just didn't this time (partially because it was at 4 CV, but also laziness). I normally go through the FireAlarm posts that are going to be moved prior to, or just after, using the archiver to move things to the Graveyard. rene ninja'd actually pressing the button to move them. :-)
 
@Makyen Think that was meant for our favourite germanic god
 
5:18 PM
@NickA Sigh Yep. @toohonestforthissite
@NickA np. Happy to help. :-)
 
@Makyen That would be the god of free expression and doubt. You'll be having a tough time then. Remember t eh old chinese curse: "May you live in interesting times".
 
:-)
 
@Cœur that was viewed over 35 thousands times. Shouldn't that info on the accepted answer be moved to the tag wiki so we don't lose value? No one found the accepted answer useless.
 
@NickA Well, mostly fine now as it cooled down significatly here. Wrt the last days were just a torture, expecially trying to get some sleep. And the dog days just started. Re the name: take your own guess. A hint: "be nice" and denunciations vs. "assume good faith" policy.
 
@rene CMake tag or Fortran tag?
 
5:28 PM
@toohonestforthissite Boo hope all gets better, and yes I figured that would be the case
 
@Cœur Is the CMake post causing harm in some way?
 
@Makyen It's in the list of <15 characters long titles. So either it gets deleted, or I'll rename the question.
 
@NickA Well, as it seems, the sun hasn't shwon the whole day. Can't tell for sure, though as I had to cool down my bedroom until past sunrise to be able to get some sleep, so my day/night rythm is completely mess up now (in contrast to the normal "quite a bit") How's weather at your place?
 
@toohonestforthissite Been pretty cool the last couple of days, before that was torture for me, I already have trouble sleeping but in general I've been getting to sleep about 4-5am to be up for 7
 
@Cœur I'm usually much more for not deleting content that's shown it has value, even though it's off topic.
 
5:33 PM
@NickA Yeah, I saw a temp map yesterday which made me seriously consider moving to Scotland or North England.
 
@toohonestforthissite I'm NE Scotland, besides the last 2-3 days we've still had it pretty hard
 
Thats a lot of red :(
 
Can a room owner remove my del-pls request? chat.stackoverflow.com/transcript/message/43336118#43336118
 
@Cœur oh, uh ... right ... how common is it to use cmake to compile fortran?
maybe the answers need attention and then apply historical lock?
 
@NickA "Hard" for that region or "hard" on global scale? I'SW Germany. Plus when it's hot, there is practically no air flow at all. I can keep the flat relatively cool for a week at most, but then I'm doomed. Luckily this very early morning it cooled down outside.
 
5:39 PM
@toohonestforthissite Hard for the region, at least for me, I get uncomfortable above 10deg
Had a couple friends stuck inside from heat stroke as well
 
@NickA Lol, so you've never been on holiday in Spain, Carribean, etc, I suppose? Actually, it's the humidity is a problem. The last years, the occasional rain has become very heavy, but more rarely. This does not cool down the air that much, but massively increases humidity. I've been to Arabia many years ago and could stand the dry heat in the desert pretty well. In Asia the high humidity let me hardly breathe.
 
@toohonestforthissite Tenerife 40+deg in the sun was hottest for me, I was inside except when it was dark outside >.<
 
@NickA Wel, shower to the rescue, but that increase humidity again.
@NickA Could still be better than my area. I've been to Gran Canaria once. It was very hot, but reletively dry air (IIRC from Africa) and always some wind which let the sweat do its job.
 
@toohonestforthissite My favourite technique is just avoiding the sun, I try to only go outside at night and in winter >.<
Part of our problem with when it's hot is AC, I don't know a single person that has air con
 
@NickA Ummm..
 
5:52 PM
Ummmm?
 
I haz teh a/c in my office:)
 
@MartinJames Ah, I more meant at home :)
We have in the office too
 
@NickA Home office:)
 
Boooo!
 
@NickA Yup, Canaries can be a bit dangerous. I got burned while swimming - nice, Atlantic water was really cool, but the UV...
 
5:56 PM
@NickA Yeah, but my butcher and tea-shop closes at 18:00. I start thinking ordering leather seats for my car was a mistake, too. It's not even that hot, but … well … liquid.
@MartinJames Sure, you have to use >>20 sunblocker. Start with 50+ and reduce over the next three weeks. That's why a 1-week holiday does not make much sense.
 
@toohonestforthissite The sunblock washed off:) I was a bit annoyed - I did not lie on the beach, sunbathing, (that would have been incredibly stupid), but I got fried anyway. By the time I realized that the sun was too severe, I had to swim to shore and walk back to hotel, so too late:( It wasn't really bad burn, but I could have done without it.
 
6:10 PM
@MartinJames The problem is indeed the water reflects the light, so it's more UV in or even close to the water. I had sunburns every holiday as a kid. But AFAIK there are water-proof sunblockers now which really last some time in the water. You have to re-apply them when leaving the water, though. sigh I really should see the sea again. miss it (not even the swiming/roasting at the beach, just the view and atmosphere)
 
@toohonestforthissite Got swimburn week1, week 2 it was the constant, driving easterly wind from Sahara. Like living 24 hrs/day in front of a fan heater. The beach was full at 4am with people trying to cool off enough to sleep:(
 
@FelixPalmen Well that went swimmingly
 
@NickA I'm betting that most of us with C/C++, (yes, I know, doesn't exist), guessed from the title that the OP was storing pointers instead of copying data: megadupe.
There must be thousands of those 'My linked-list entries all contain the last data entered' things:(
 
@MartinJames From a look at the heatmap, Scandinavia looks good. But beware of the burning forests.
 
6:27 PM
@toohonestforthissite Looking at what's left of the grass in the fields surrounding us, I'm not convinced that I'm out of danger at home:(
 
@MartinJames C/C++ debugging is always a safe bet: either no mcve or anything else missing or a dupe. Every debugging requiest which can be made a valid mcve is easy enough to debug by someone who knows the language. And all quetions about basic missconceptions/missunddrstnding/lack of skills has been asked already.
@MartinJames Yeah, well, it's very gree here around. But I'm also not sure about the Odenwald close by.
 
@toohonestforthissite You'd best not go searching my C/C++ questions then >.< they may all be dupes
 
Maybe Lanzarote again. Being a blacked lump of igneous rock already, I'm sure it won't catch fire. Seafront sports bar, beer glasses from freezer, short stagger to hotel - that would be fine ATM:)
 
@MartinJames Sounds funny, but I cooled down playing Subnautica recently. Imagination is a powerful thing.
 
@toohonestforthissite I would like to stop thinking. It doesn't help much on SO, and only large quantities of alcohol seems to help:)
 
6:47 PM
@NickA Talking about missconception ^ such titles instantly disqualify the question imo.
 
@toohonestforthissite Ah makes sense, so more questions where OP thinks they're doing nothing wrong when they are, rather than people who know they're doing something wrong but not exactly where (obviously not making any debugging attempt doesn't help anyone)
 
7:04 PM
@NickA I'd rather say lack of basics, but yeah. It's an XY question (related, but not identical to XY problem). Stems from not learning the basics properly, but copy-pasting (not necessarily literally) a pattern caught up somewhere.
 
 
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10:11 PM
@TinyGiant I see your 13 and raise you at least 20 more stackoverflow.com/posts/51394689/revisions
 
@NickA: That's exactly the problem: stackoverflow.com/questions/51460127/… you explain something and the very next reply shows absolutely nothing has been understood. Worse: from how quickly the comment was written, it's clear there was not even a single second spent thinking about what you wrote. And I explicitly told them to think about my comment.
 
@toohonestforthissite I know, I chucked them a OpenGL tutorial to see how they handle it >.<
 
Not sure about other cultures, but in mine, completely ignoring advice and still replying is considered very unpolite and un-nice.
Well, I'll let it be, before I start to be very honest. It's a hopless case anyway.
 
@toohonestforthissite I would find it the same, on top of that, un-professional, which we're all meant to be here
 
@NickA wait...you mean we're suppose to be professional :|.
 
10:17 PM
@NickA sigh³ Profesionalism is a diminishing virtue. It's much more important to fit into the cuddling team, follow process guidelines and not hurt the feeling of the uncapable.
 
@toohonestforthissite ...hurt the feelings of those who feel unwelcomed :P
 
Maybe they should add a requirement for a LinkedIn profile with a current job to ask questions
 
Why would me write good code from scratch if we can do updates once a day? People are used software is broken right after release. We used to call this "banana software: ripens at the customers'"
 
lol test in production. lol
 
@Nkosi I did that (after informal testing of course), it went swimmingly until someone found out
 
10:20 PM
Gasp :)
 
@Nkosi Tbh: I do not welcome such folks. Simply because they (and their attitude) just don't get things done. But apparently with stock marktes being more important than quality, it's not relevant anymore to create good products, but good stock market rates.
 
@NickA The first rule of test in production is...
!!/blame
 
@Nkosi It's Yam's fault.
 
lol
 
@toohonestforthissite Interesting, you don't welcome them, I reckon actively un-welcoming them would likely work better
 
10:22 PM
@Nkosi Seriously: I heared that term ca. 30 years ago already. In combination with a big german bank with attached electronics department: Siemens.
@NickA From their perspective, if you don't welcome them you are already actiovely unwelcoming them. Well, I prefer cornflakes over Snowflakes.
 
@toohonestforthissite Hey, I'm part of this "Generation Snowflake", "Millenial" BS, I'm only early 20s - I take great offense ;);)
 
talking about corn flakes..... [scurries off to the kitchen]
 
@NickA Well, I know some more of that generation. And I don't weight them just by their age, but the attitude. Sad to tell, but the worst representatives of this subspecies are from a region south of Western-Canada … and live in a self-confirming bubble (or is it a cloud?)
@Nkosi No, thanks, I just had two "wieners in sleeping bag (aka puff pastry)". I'm full
 
I'm hungry, but have nothing to eat :( I might go to tesco
 
I'm back. :P
 
10:31 PM
Got milk with those cornflakes?
 
@Nkosi Cornflakes? Btw: they are great on a spinach lasagna (just make sure it's not Frosties).
Hmm, that's an idea. I think I'll have a lumumba.
 
no milk going in dry. lol
 
@toohonestforthissite Chocolate and rum?
 
yep frostes, how'd you know
lol
 
I've been drinking amaretto but I think I'll switch to kahlua and baileys
 
10:36 PM
H2O for me. Not sure they'll let me drive after this :P
 
@NickA Teneriffa? ;-) Brandy this time, but I vary between this, Rum, Amaretto and Gran Marnier (try it, it's great). For the brave at heart, a mint liquor might also work, but I don't buy this stuff.
 
@toohonestforthissite I've only had it once while on a boozing holiday and got up feeling awful in the morning and asked the bar tender for something to cheer me up >.<
 
@NickA I had too much of Baileys (and Tequilla, Sambucca and - Amaretto) at your age (that would be the 80ies/early 90ies). I got comfortable with Amaretto recently again, but Baileys not yet.
Maybe I try some good Rum the next months.
 
@toohonestforthissite My favourite to drink is a B52 and if I'm feeling like drinking I might be able to finish a B156
I do try to steer clear of rum though, and brandy sends me loopy
Although I like it
 
@NickA Lol, I met it at age 16 on holiday with my mother and her friend. Not sure, but it was either Gran Canaria or Mallorca. Need I say she had to stop me from ordering that stuff more than once per evening?
 
10:42 PM
@toohonestforthissite Yeah, I had to stop for a little bit after I started drinking too much cazcabel
Back in 10 - Heading to shops, they close at midnight
 
@NickA I didn't know you can drink the B52s
@NickA Well, The Brandy (a good-enough German "Mariacron") stood for more than 4 years in my kitchen. I use more of it for cooking than drinking. So that should tell you I don't drink much. Nevertheless, I sometimes enjoy being slightly dizzy.
@NickA Hmm, I don#t dare to mix coffee and booze since I tried a new coffee maker. It was in the evening and I tried makign irish coffee. Well, it was Coffee and Whisky(sic!). The machine left some chemical substance in the water and I ended up having drunk ca. 1.5 l coffee - at midnight. That was a very long night …
@Nkosi Not sure, they are the only form I like cornflakes once every two years or so. But they require milk. Anything else ist just awful (ok, I have some dry, but not a full bowl of them)
 
10:57 PM
just had a full bowl dry and the sugar rush is kicking in. need to refill my water bottle.
 
@Nkosi Uargh! I could mail you some milk :-)
 
lol
it would be cheese by the time it gets here. lol
 
Back!
 
Front!
 
@toohonestforthissite That sounds like a very bad night
 
10:59 PM
You read about this new technique for survival food packs? Dried water. For 1l fresh water, just add 1.2l fresh water.
@NickA Indeed. I think that was the first time I had a tachycardia - the unpleasant variant. I was too drunk to do anything, but also too awake to sleep. I'm not exactly sure if this wasn't part of the coffee machine dissolving some chemical stuff in the water, though. The strange flavour didn't disapper the next 2 days, so I brought it back. Drinking tea in the morning since then.
 
@toohonestforthissite I got a machine recently, just a cheap-o tassimo pod machine, it's been so worth it so far
 
@NickA Well, that was a clasiccal brewer machine. Those pad/can machines are a massive waste of resources and should be fobidden (at least the alu-can ones; the paper pads are debatable). I'm fine without right now, but I thought about a fully automatic machien: from the bean to the cup or so. Problem is I don't see much use for it now and the few occassions instant coffee is ok.
 
11:33 PM
@Makyen gnarf Too late.
 

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