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6:00 PM
o/
 
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@NathanOliver Were you on Windows or Linux during your cpp days?
 
@RawN I'm on windows. Somewhat familiar with linux though from using coliru for live examples here.
 
are Nathan's C++ days over?
 
how many hours are in a C++ day?
 
6:02 PM
zing
 
user1593881
@NathanOliver I find it amazing just how serious and solid gcc toolchain is. At least the g++ part of it.
 
@gunr2171 That is implementation defined
@RawN g++ and clang are really nice compilers. I just really love MSVS's IDE
 
If you make a C++ clock, do you use pointers for the clock hands?
 
user1593881
Raw pointers are so 90s.
 
6:06 PM
A broken clock is right twice a day. A broken c++ clock is right until you look at the compiler warnings.
only one more hour of work.....
 
@gunr2171 start early leave early?
 
6am start
 
user1593881
@QPaysTaxes Who dat?
 
with a 4 hour meeting
which happens every Wednesday
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
 
So your back in the same boat except now you have an even longer meeting ;)
 
6:09 PM
well the crap start is because we have team members on the other side of the world (9 hours off)
 
\o/, I got a Yearling badge!
 
woot!
 
Congrats!
 
Congrats
 
user1593881
@NobodyNada Congrats.
 
6:11 PM
thank you!
 
@gunr2171 The obvious solution is to use dwarf star matter to create a gravity bubble that can induce time dilation, so that time goes by slowly for you in comparison to everyone else
 
I'll get right on that
 
Timed right, you can shift your 6AM meeting up to 10AM and have them meet with you at 10AM their time too
 
user1593881
And blame the C++ 17 standard.
 
You know what's fascinating to think about
We are all moving at the speed of light
through time
 
6:13 PM
Did you know a gram of dwarf star materials weighs.. 1 gram
 
@QPaysTaxes they are awarded every day
it's based on when you joined
and the only requirement is membership for 1 year + 200 rep earned during that timeframe
 
All you have to do is earn 200 rep in a year
 
@TylerH I hope we're not going down this road again
 
it's just one answer upvote every 20 days
 
@gunr2171 that's onebox worthy
 
6:15 PM
@QPaysTaxes You've earned 73 rep this month
 
Oct 8 '15 at 15:56, by TylerH
@gunr2171 I once reverse-engineered a Stack Overflow algorithm, and at the center was a small room, with a booth off to one side, whose doorway was covered by a small, faded curtain. Pulling it back, I peered tentatively inside, and found a gaunt, decrepit Jeff Atwood chained simultaneously to the wall and a Dell Optiplex laptop, his eyes big and round, having grown accustomed to the darkness over the years. He looked at me, and slowly whispered "6 to 8 weeks... 6 to 8 weeks..."
 
@QPaysTaxes you've earned 109 rep in February
 
you linked to the history first
 
I'm not sure if you need to earn the rep in the year. This leads me to believe you only need to have a total of number_of_years * 200.
 
@gunr2171 I suck at life
 
user1593881
6:16 PM
@NathanOliver My only concern is the cpp will eventually become a dull language. So far so good. But I see these attributes in 17. What is that all about?
 
@QPaysTaxes I saw it; I just didn't comment
 
@QPaysTaxes Nope I just clicked it was too ashamed to say anything.
 
@QPaysTaxes don't worry, next time I'll create a special chat room for the sole purpose of migrating that single message
 
I get suckered way too easily into these things
I need to stop trusting the unicorn. no good can come from it
 
@QPaysTaxes I recognized the YouTube URL
 
6:18 PM
@Nkosi s/the unicorn/chat members
 
you should use a mirrored upload by some other youtuber of the same video to improve your chances
 
@RawN Attributes are trying to make compiler extensions portable. I don't think C++ is going anywhere. It is a pretty powerful tool and continues to get better.
 
@QPaysTaxes you mean, like a dead unicorn
 
@QPaysTaxes you've been going on that line so long your voice is starting to become...hoarse...
 
BOOOOOOOOOOOO
 
6:19 PM
Nope not clickin any more link from unicorns
 
Spam? stackoverflow.com/a/43100885/4687348 (the site lists keys for VMware Workstation Pro)
 
@FelixSFD brb copying them down
lol
 
:-D
 
@FelixSFD I spam flagged it
@TylerH why not close it?
 
@NathanOliver ok. thanks
 
6:21 PM
I didn't read it super carefully. I just glanced long enough to tell whether it was an off-site resource request or not
(which it didn't appear to be)
 
I cv'd as General Computer
 
non migrate
 
I can buy that
 
too old to migrate
 
yikes, off-by-one keyboard position error
 
6:23 PM
I was going to say, that was the worst sentence I've seen you type
 
o vpi;f fp nryyrt
 
flagging as unclear
 
I think we've just invented our own encryption
 
@gunr2171 fgp
fairly-good protection
 
shift to the right one key on the keyboard encryption.
 
6:25 PM
STTROKOTK Encryption
even the encryption name is encrypted
 
> You've been mentioned in the Ministry of Silly Hats, a room you're not currently in.
I'm literally in there every single time my browser opens, chat.
 
@QPaysTaxes pronounced "Startalk"
or 'sutter utt O K'
 
@TylerH Looks like Danish for "Sod off, OK"
 
I gained my knowledge of unintentionally cursing in a foreign language from The Elder Scrolls III: Morrowind
It's fun that you kinda sorta stutter on the T's of stutter
@QPaysTaxes your new task should be 1) stop developing your own language 2) start developing a modern encryption method using strtok
No one would ever see it coming
You'd be like your own Spanish Inquisition
@QPaysTaxes so it will be impervious to the Doppler effect, is what you're saying
quite the super power
Concaten sounds like ITAPEN, one of the earlier iterations of smart phone predictive text
I know :-P
Right now I'm debating whether or not I should troll you by mentioning that you're just making FORTRAN from scratch 0:-)
they won't respond
call instead, trust me
 
6:43 PM
very spamy but maybe just NAA? stackoverflow.com/a/43097129/5292302
 
@QPaysTaxes they get literally thousands of letters a week, sometimes a day
they don't even look at them
by they I mean their staff
 
another answer deleted by LQP queue wondering if worth mod flagging stackoverflow.com/a/43092985/5292302..
 
you almost always talk to a person if you call, and the wait time is not 3 hours
 
VLQ? stackoverflow.com/a/43095494/5292302 link only with out link?
 
@PetterFriberg I do not follow what you mean.
 
6:48 PM
@Nkosi is it not an answer?
 
was it a bad delete?
 
@PetterFriberg Low Quality: yes. Very Low Quality: maybe. NAA: no
 
> try to pass data in key pair value. data:{key:value ,key:value},
seems like an answer, but it was deleted by LQP queue... that seems not correct, should be deleted by >20K or just downvoted
 
@PetterFriberg I saw it in the que earlier but skipped over it because i was not sure hot to deal with it
 
@QPaysTaxes what's funny if it had a link I would flag it as link only, without link I hesitate
 
6:50 PM
@QPaysTaxes because this is an answer, from meta.stackexchange.com/q/225370/213671
 
@PetterFriberg Do we have a meta on what to do to fix these? If not maybe we should ask the community what they think. I did see where a this burned a person on an audit today: meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/346115/bad-late-answer-audits
 
@NathanOliver Yeah I was think about that meta... that's another answer that could hit audit.
 
well, it does propose a solution
but I do see your point. NAA is probably fine then, but I'd rather go with VLQ
oh yeah, new animations and such, cool
cya
 
still just as condescending as ever
 
which is why it's bannnnnnnnnned
 
6:55 PM
and I'm not so sure this is a thank answer stackoverflow.com/a/43096056/5292302
it has new code...
what do you say we edit it from review queue?
 
It is a response to a comment on the accepted answer
They'll also need to change getFragmentManager() to getSupportFragmentManager(), and make sure they're extending a FragmentActivity class. — Mike M. Nov 20 '15 at 9:08
 
@NathanOliver yeah but a comment is not answer :D
 
So we edit it into the accepted answer and get rid of the other one.
 
I'm not telling these are great answer.... just maybe it should not be deleted
@NathanOliver ok for me if you do it...
 
answer edited
Trying to think what is the best way to get rid of the other answer. Not sure what is considered "worse" on the ban algo, a 20K delete or deleted from review.
 
7:00 PM
it has 3 rec delete from review you go as you like...
 
I'll just let it deleted from review then
 
yeah if audit with your edit it's ok
@Makyen Yeah I have it installed, but I can't really understand how it is related to the problem of LQP review queue?
 
@PetterFriberg Your comment implied that what you might be wanting to do is use page scraping to determine information from deleted questions. I was pointing to some code you could use as a start for doing so, if desired (and appropriate for your use). Rather than ignore your comment, I figured I should at lest provide a pointer to some code that might be the beginnings of doing so, if that was, in fact, what you were wanting to do. Ignore it, if not helpful.
 
@Makyen ooh sorry I did absolute not want to sound offensive, I just taught I was missing something, thanks for clarifying.
There is an old story of screen scraping that was not appreciated by Shog9, so we are very reluctant to do this when developing bots.
However we can't really come up with another method to monitor review queue.
 
7:17 PM
@PetterFriberg I'm not offended. Sorry if I came off sounding that way. [I'm sorry. You're sorry. We're all sorry :-) ].
 
We once output all review comments in chat, but it's both a lot of comments + we can't really get all bad reviews
 
I'm not sorry
 
@NathanOliver Me neither, I'm Adriaan.
 
@Makyen anyway after we all been sorry, if you have fun developing and ideas on how to solve the review queue problem you always welcome to join in :D, we always need peps. :D
 
7:23 PM
@PetterFriberg Yeah, I'm not a fan of scraping, but sometimes it's the only way. In the case of RF, all the data was already on the page, and it was faster. There is a user-noticeable lag to using the API. I wrote the scraping in the period of time where I was planning to use a pull request to get the code back into the hands of the person from whom I forked the project. They never got an API key, so were limited to 300 requests/24 hours, which is inadequate for both testing and usage.
 
I think Off-Site Resource should definitely be the next close reason added to the Mjolnir list
followed by POB
 
waffle
 
7:43 PM
\o/, a question I answered made it into the HNQ!
 
Woot
 
@NobodyNada Darn searching for it... at least tell me the question title...
 
@PetterFriberg It was on Retrocomputing
does that help?
 
arrg, was looking in the SO news letter... if on retro pass link...
 
I don't want to promote my answer in here...but retrocomputing.stackexchange.com/questions/2576/…
 
7:53 PM
@SmokeDetector hahaha, that's very on-topic to promote your adult site :D
@PetterFriberg apparently there's a practise interland Netherlands-Japan in the stadium next to a friend's house; So I get to see my national team play for the first time :P
I'll probably cry seeing a team that bad on the ice ^^
 
@NobodyNada I like that stuff, also JAL is a major player on retro..
 
@Adriaan in what hockey???
\o Tiger
 
@PetterFriberg ice; field is rather uninteresting (and hard to watch with that ridiculous yellow ball on blue grass)
 
waffle
 
8:02 PM
Please, no off site [*-pls]
 
@FireAlarm I went TB
 
@Adriaan ooh remember I'm Swedish when I say Hockey I only mean ice..., NetherLands-Japan seems like an interesting game...
 
@PetterFriberg it sure does, but it's only 7 quid and round the corner
 
@Kyll ok. It wasn't supposed to be directed to the whole room, just JAL
 
JAL
8:03 PM
@NobodyNada Thanks, but ping me in SOBotics, the ministry, or another room next time so you don't disrupt the peanut gallery here.
 
@JAL will do, thanks!
 
JAL
handled btw, thanks
 
@NobodyNada I know and I don't personally mind, but readers of the transcript yada yada
 
okay :)
 
For anything unrelated to the room, use the Ministry
 
8:04 PM
Quits talking about hockey
 
@Adriaan ooh yeah it will be nice and bring some flowers :D
 
Anyone to talk about Hockney from TOG?
 
No Hockey is ok, it on topic :D
 
8:06 PM
@Kyll you missed our lovely chat about how Q is going to develop a new encryption method by using a random C++ method
 
@TylerH Aw.
 
Well, that's it for Skellefte. Now hockey in Sweden is done for the season, only those Southern wannabe-Danish are still playing
 
@Adriaan 4 times in a row that they are winning?
 
8:12 PM
@PetterFriberg hmm? winning what? They were up 3-1, but lost three in a row to Frölunda
 
@Adriaan aah they lost, good I don't like'em since I'm old Bjorkloven :P
@Adriaan I have to many friends in Skelleftà I get to much crap if they win as usual... but yeah 2014-2015 they lost in play-off as well
 
@SmokeDetector @TigerhawkT3 you've got a fan there
 
@Adriaan Ah. I recognize that name.
 
@TigerhawkT3 making new friends on internet is always fun.
 
8:23 PM
let's not bring up users in here
 
Please hold the discussion on specif--
...
back to coding then
 
wow, I hope abusive will block that account otherwise a mod flag would be appropriate
 
@NathanOliver Still a dupe? stackoverflow.com/posts/43101441/revisions
(i think so, but just checking)
 
8:56 PM
@rene speaking of rules stemming from meta shouting at us - I'm wondering what prompted the no-onebox rule?
 
9:22 PM
@TylerH yeah.
 
I put a reopen on stackoverflow.com/questions/13710668/… -- we were hard on the question in 2012 but the title looks pretty clear and useful. the sidebar didn't have an easy dupe so probably worthwhile. (I got pinged on a UV on my answer basically)
 
9:42 PM
@Machavity another one for you ^^
 
Sam
10:08 PM
 
JAL
10:18 PM
@SmokeDetector let's close that
 
@JAL : I'm not sure what this comment means. You've replied to a comment about/with a link to an answer. Does that mean you think the question on which the answer was posted should be closed?
 
@Makyen yes
 
@JAL Obviously, you meant that the question should be closed and deleted (done).
 
JAL
10:40 PM
@Makyen It was more of a "hey, I think this question should be closed" comment to the room. I replied to SD so that other users could find a link back to the question and evaluate if it should be closed as a duplicate. In retrospect, a may have been more appropriate.
 
10:52 PM
@JAL I only asked as I'm working on a script. One feature of which is looking at replies in the chat transcript to see what actual requests are referring to (in order to provide question/answer status wrt. the request). I just saw that comment & wondered how the script should interpret it (a reply to an answer link, but marked as a [cv-pls]). In other words, should it convert the URL to be the question, which in this case would only be info available after fetching the answer data.
No big deal, I'll probably punt the choice down the road a bit.
 
JAL
Ah good to know, thanks
 
TIL: the mail app on apple environment don't support > TLSv1
 
Look at it from a different angle: TLSv2 doesn't support Apple's mail app. That's a good thing.
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Except when you need to support PCI clift.org/fred/…
 
@Mistalis Why was this made as a [cv-pls] request? The question is 3 months old at this point. The only recent activity was you editing it after the request was made. Was there a suggested edit that was rejected? Some other thing that makes it more urgent? Does the combo of tags result in low traffic? I'm just wondering why the choice to [cv-pls] instead of just CV and let it be in the normal CV queue.
 
11:13 PM
Ran out of up/down votes 47 minutes before UTC midnight... reasonable timing, I think.
 
@Mistalis I'm wondering the same about this request. There is a similar level of inactivity. IIRC, this is the third recent [cv-pls] request with the same duplicate target. [research...] The first of the three requests was also from you, also on an non-new question. I've just noticed them because of seeing the same proposed dup-target on inactive Qs. Are you doing some clean-up and searching for duplicates of that question?
Not that having multiple duplicates pointing to the same target is unusual (it's actually common for common issues). I've even proposed multiple questions as duplicates to the same dup-target within a few minutes. This just caught my attention. Note: They are duplicates, and I VTC as duplicate for all three questions.
 

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