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10:00 AM
@rene I did actually not know there was a "6 spam flag" mechanic.
 
@rene forgot to append a point after it sorry
 
@luk2302 I reckoned that hence my explanation. No problem.
 
@MadaraUchiha I was hoping it'd be more merit based
 
@kayess all is good now ...
 
@Magisch Right, but it's people who vote
 
10:01 AM
@JanDvorak hm?
 
And people vote for whomever they like
Ideally, you make people like you by being helpful and professional
But unfortunately, those aren't the only ways.
 
Least ideally, you make people like you by pointing out you're from the same country as they are
 
@rene I see I can't do math ...
 
@MadaraUchiha Ideally, people don't base who they vote for on how much they like that person
 
I hate the other French people.
Especially Kyll.
 
10:02 AM
@Magisch If it were based on merit alone, we wouldn't need to democratically elect anyone.
We'd just take the best person for the job based on some criteria.
Most correct flags raised, most questions rightfully closed, whatever
 
Then Smokey wins
 
You can't easily quantify professionality and integrity
 
But we have a democratic election, this means we want people to vote for whomever they trust
 
If that was possible, we'd indeed have no need for a democratic process
 
@Magisch We have reasonable metrics.
 
10:04 AM
@MadaraUchiha How'd you quantify integrity?
 
A combination of reputation, Q/A ratio, correct flags raised, success in the queues, etc.
 
none of that implies or even correlates integrity
 
Will get you the people whose views align best with those of SO
 
That's not always entirely desirable
 
@Magisch The democratic process doesn't really help you with that either. It's very hard to judge the integrity of another person (see: our politicians)
That's doubly true for people elected over the internet whose faces you've never seen.
 
10:06 AM
@MadaraUchiha Not necessarily
 
The democratic process can tell you one thing, and one thing only: Who do we trust
 
All the people I voted for in the 2 past elections here I voted for because I'd seen demonstrable integrity and honesty on their part
 
You can say that you trust people with integrity, and I trust people who will be able to close as many flags as possible as accurately as possible.
 
It's somehow funny how economists will ruin a company because striking out that expensive R&D cost from their excel lists. Even me idiot could do that job better with simple automation :-D
 
@Magisch Right, that's how you vote
 
10:07 AM
Like how they conduct themselves in a dispute or something
 
That's not necessarily true for the rest of the community.
Some people vote based on the answers on meta
 
We're back to the age old uninformed voter discussion
 
Some people vote based on reputation
 
sadly no real solution exists
 
Right
Which is why, if you want to be elected, you need to play by those rules, even if you disagree with them.
 
10:07 AM
If you only let people vote who fulfill your criteria of informed you may as well not have a vote
 
@MadaraUchiha right, and when the voters are more than an arbitrary number, the trust is less likely to be misplaced
 
Get rep, demonstrate your abilities and your integrity
Be a name people remember.
 
-- SOVR
 
Fortunately, I don't mind not winning as long as someone wins I can honestly vote for
 
Let's not have votes then. I'll wait for theocracy.
@MadaraUchiha Jon Skeet?
 
10:09 AM
@JanDvorak Wait
 
Jon would never run
He's a very busy person
 
Do you doubt for a second that if Jon Skeet nominated himself (Not that it would ever happen), he wouldn't take 1st place by a landslide?
 
No. But I do doubt he'd want to mod.
 
@MadaraUchiha of course not
He's poured more into this site and has more credibility and demonstrated ability to make it better then anyone else
 
@JanDvorak He doesn't
That's well established.
 
10:10 AM
@JanDvorak Jon Skeet is fairly overrated. He's an idiot as everyone else compared to the economist dumbasses.
 
He's also quite nice and professional on meta, where i've seen him more then a couple times
I think stack wanted to make him a valued associate at some point but he didn't want to
 
@Magisch It's a questionable job if you should attend SO professionally. At least you should give up some of your credos may be.
 
@πάνταῥεῖ can you rephrase that
I didn't quite understand that
 
Hey, I'm the only confusing guy around here @πάνταῥεῖ You be warned
Don't try to mess with my confusement
 
@Magisch Well, I'm fired because of being a bad number in some excel report. Same economics may apply for a job at SO.
 
10:17 AM
Well, that link could have been added to the stackapps page...
 
@M.A.R. I'm barely facing it. What's your concern??
 
Anyways...
@FireAlarm unclear
 
@πάνταῥεῖ What. Why were you fired?
 
@Magisch Teilbetriebsschliessung. No more R&D desired at that company.
 
Thats bitter
 
10:22 AM
@Magisch After all, I think that's the best thing happening to me. I already was looking for changing the job. No
 
I know, I was telling people it was N
 
@Magisch I'll get some extra money now, and don't have to bother about any term of notice to attend a new job.
 
@πάνταῥεῖ Well at least you got that covered
If I was fired I'd have around 2 months to get another paycheck from a new job
 
@Magisch Well, years of suffering will get out benefits ;-)
And I'll get a new job soon and easy of course
I have to admit I hate to leave my comfort zone :-P
 
@Tunaki noobs is not nice... but maybe just VLQ
 
upvote? This is really sketchy
 
@QPaysTaxes I hope you have not the impression I don't want to help. But for that I need to see the question and have the time. I follow the discussions only loosely, so better ping me. If I don't answer, it is because I'm not there. If I don't want to talk to someone, I will tell him (and I did not tell you, did I?).
 
11:51 AM
Hi adriaan :)
 
Yes, minor win!! finally got a VC++ DLL to compile using xp toolset in VS 2017 RC...there's a day of my life I won't get back!
 
@Sami hi
 
How are you?
 
going fine, thanks
 
Nice:)
 
12:31 PM
Morning
 
o/
how do you get to the timeline on a question again?
thought it was /timeline but that is just a guess
 
@Tunaki ah ok so it's http://stackoverflow.com/posts/<question_id>/timeline thx.
@Tunaki I was trying http://stackoverflow.com/questions/<question_id>/timeline wondering why it didn't work.
 
@Machavity edited it away. Who approves this?
 
@Machavity There's an "Improve Edit" button. :|
 
@BhargavRao Yeah, I goofed on that one. Sorry
 
@Machavity You'll remember it the next time ;)
 
@BhargavRao did you edit ban him ?:D
 
1:29 PM
o/
 
@Lankymart Uhm, that code was from the OP
 
Plop everyone!!
 
You both are goofy! :D
Hello Spearrel :)
 
Hi o/
 
We are in the no-plop zone!
 
1:30 PM
@kayess You just said Plop though.
 
If anyone wants to feel pain, check the benefits of this job offer. :') ...
 
@kayess Nice idea.
 
@Kyll no, it's not even syntetically close to that :D
 
@Seth ROFL I first read it as "rene group", was like "where do I sign?!"
 
@Kyll Lmao!
 
1:31 PM
@Seth Nice, appears in German due to my VPN
 
rene group limited.
 
@Kyll :D
 
@Kyll It's in german for me as well
 
@NathanOliver try disconnecting from Kyll's hijacked VPN first
 
Guys, having meta meta titles is still okay, right?
 
1:33 PM
@kayess I can't. He got out the other day and locked me in. Still trying to break out
 
: (
 
"rene group specializes in closure systems for all sorts of situations, including things that are too broad and otherwise unclear"
 
I had the title "CAN WE PREVENT THE USE OF CAPSLOCK IN JOB OFFERS?" & someone edited it to "Can we prevent the use of ALL CAPS in job offers?". Can I edit that back?
@Machavity Oh noes
 
@Machavity really? whoops... corrected, that's what happens when you don't read in comments...in which case why did you link it here, in that context their edit makes sense?
 
@Seth Better not, it would get noisy on Meta
 
1:34 PM
@Kyll Aw.
But it was so darn meta :(
 
@Lankymart I goofed and hit "Approve" instead of "Improve Edit"
 
@NathanOliver How does it feel being prisoner in your own house? And guess what, I stole your coffee too! Mwahaha
 
@Seth google translate is a wonderful thing
 
@Kyll Share pl0x :(
@Lankymart It sure is :D
 
@Seth Well, I won't try to sell Viagra to Meta if I make a question ^^
 
1:35 PM
what kyll doesn't know is closey is just about ready to pounce
 
@Kyll Ô_Ô
 
@Machavity ah ok i assumed you were pointing out an attempt to help the OP by writing code into the question for them.
 
Remember that time when BF3 & MW3 were about to be released, and google translate translated BF3 to MW3 & the other way around? :) ..
 
@rene Dangit!
 
The world was burning...
 
1:37 PM
@Kyll Been reading ahead of my kids in a new book series they're on and had to laugh at the chapter I read last night: "Blindplopped"
 
@Machavity Nice, better get them into Plopping as they're young!
 
Indoctrination ô____ô
 
Education!!
 
Hmm....
Regarding that job offer: One benefit is "Gesundheitsprävention", which translates to "Preventing health" >.<
Someone was pretty darn enthusiastic (and hectic) while writing that job offer >.<
 
@Seth That means: Free coffee and pizza!
 
1:43 PM
@Seth The center guy is riding on a hoverboard (fire hazard) while talking on a cell phone (distracted). If that's not preventing health, i don't know what is
 
@Kyll If it doesn't have waffles, I don't want it :(
@Machavity That is a very good point ô.ô
 
So do we delete this Q or just push it over the edge of reopen and re-close it?
 
Nice. Congrats
@Machavity Well the reopen votes will age away starting in 14 days.
 
1:59 PM
@Seth HEALTH PROVENTION - working here will put you in a early grave!
 
@Lankymart Aye >.<
Regarding Smokey: Same user posted the same link in three different answers.
 
wow @TimCastelijns :D,
 
@NathanOliver Ty =D
 
what's up mr. P?
@PetterFriberg ?
 
@TimCastelijns !
 
2:13 PM
@Tunaki .
 
@TimCastelijns stackoverflow.com/questions/42275549/… (while you see it you can flag it : )
 
@Seth ,
 
Oh I didnt know you were stalking me lol
 
as always... not me but your old friend
 
2:16 PM
rene?
 
yeah must be him... or a bee
 
it's closed.. maybe delete it now
 
I need to wait a few days... I'm still among the 10K plebee
 
that's fine, only needs one more vote :)
 
I think some diamond nuked those smokey reports ô.o ... Mods stealing our jobs .. grumble
 
2:20 PM
ChrisF is doing work
 
How to accidently answer a question :D
3
 
@Seth Wasn't a mod. You'll never believe how that got deleted
 
@Tunaki Author-deleted? :o
 
Nope
 
Uhh...
Dafuq?
 
2:22 PM
psst 3 20k users
 
I didn't see any downvotes on that :o Can't be spam/rude nuked then
 
Someone with tipex!
 
Oh :o
20k = Free tipex?
 
@Seth And nope
 
I thought 20kers could only delete-vote questions o_o
Much to learn I have.
 
2:23 PM
Can delete vote downvoted answers too
 
Wasn't 20kers also
 
@Machavity O_O
@Tunaki ò,ó ...
So, to conclude:
 
Woundering what Tuna is upto
 
1.) No mod delete
2.) No self-delete
3.) No flag-nuke
4.) No 20k nuke
Roomba'd? :o
 
must have been jon skeet
 
2:24 PM
Nope
 
he can do anything
 
Tuna is trolling me I think :( ..
 
I would never do that
 
If the 10k plebs want something to vote on: 1 2
 
2:24 PM
You just will never be able to guess
 
20k welcome too of course. :)
 
@Machavity Ah, thanks :)
@Tunaki Ugh...
Did community delete it?
Tunaaaaaa
 
Even you know that can't be
 
>.<
The hell could have deleted those answers then?
 
You're not thinking incredible enough
 
2:27 PM
Was it "The Incredibles"?
Not nuked by a user, not nuked by a mod...
 
morning!
 
@gunr2171 Were you involved?
 
I can see the deleted answer, but I still do not understand... need to be something really incredible
 
I'm always involved
 
Don't answer that gunr
 
2:27 PM
@Tunaki Ha, got'em!
 
Too late. We know his involvement now. We just need to know when he knew about it
 
@Tunaki I give up. How were the answers deleted?
 
You are giving up?!
 
Yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeees
I am.
 
are you talking about roomba stuff?
 
2:29 PM
Maybe I am just trying to convey that I am giving up in order to get the correct answer though... c(:
 
Well Seth, you were trolled :p
 
@Seth Damn, squirrels screeching hurt my ears.
 
I knew it =(
 
Is "[Does anyone know] a CSS/jquery solution I could try?" request for off-site or can that be answered with code in an answer?
 
@BhargavRao Bazoorel* ô,ô
 
2:29 PM
@gunr2171 Nah. We spam voted some answers out earlier. Tuna just has Seth on a roll
 
@BaummitAugen asking for recommendations for a general approach or a library to use is off topic
 
@Seth so you need to start all over guessing...
 
The evil mastermind super troll got trolled by a fish... =/
Time to retire
 
You need to have 10K Seth, that's the end of the story
 
Ok, thanks.
 
2:34 PM
All my apologies for the trolling @Seth, I'll be a good fish from now on
 
@Tunaki I hope so :(
 
Coming in Summer 2017: Finding Tunaki "He trolled that squirrel and just vanished afterward"
 
@Machavity BAZOOREL!
 
@Lankymart nice one :D
 
Don't take me for one of my primite ancestors :(
@QPaysTaxes I meant to say "primitive" x.x .............
@QPaysTaxes Monster...
 
Sam
 
@TimCastelijns Or unclear. What would you have an ideal response time? ASAP is the ideal :)
 
not for me. I like to have my users wait a bit. It builds tension
oooohhh what will happen when this stops loading?? So exciting!!!
 
"is it going to work? huuh please nooo don't lose my data i son't want to start again
NOOOO come on do it
sweat appearing
 
Depends on what exactly you're loading.. :)
 
500 errors: crushing the hopes and dreams of the Internet since 1995
 
JAL
2:54 PM
o/ all
 
\o
 
JAL
Anyone know a formal name for "smart links" like [Meta]?
 
\o/
@JAL "smart links"? ô.ô
 
JAL
lol
 
2:55 PM
Links can be smart?
 
JAL
Well I just found out they break when posts are migrated from Main to Meta, so I was going to write a post about it
 
ô,ô
 
@JAL AutoExpansionShortCutsThatExtendToAFullUrlIfYouAreLuckyButDoNotCountOnIt
5
 
The flower is farming stars again...
 
JAL
Extra fertilizer for Rene
 
2:57 PM
@JAL shorthand links
 
We'll call them Jalcuts in your honor
 
JAL
@BaummitAugen yeah I'll probably just do that
 
JAL
thanks
 
2:57 PM
@JAL that download finished. fired it up and it runs quite smoothly
 
JAL
@gunr2171 nice! glad to hear it!
 
@BaummitAugen I'd love to hear the story of how you selected your name :D
 
JAL
Did you play a custom game or just forge?
 
spam or ham? (yes, each letter is a link to a different answer by the same user)
 
@JAL just forge. wow the tools have been upgraded since the times of halo 3
we're approaching 3DS Max levels
 
JAL
2:59 PM
@gunr2171 yes indeed! Even the fact that there is Forge on windows will help map makers immensely
 
@PaulCrovella You spent way too much time on that :P
 
@PaulCrovella Looks like spam.
 
@PaulCrovella ouch, I would leave a comment about self-promotion
 
Non-disclosed self-promotion.
 

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