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user4639281
12:01 AM
On the info page there is an edit button
 
Thanks :)
I actually might want to nuke the room since discussion has finished
 
LOL
@TinyGiant absolutely love that FHC and face
 
user4639281
lol
 
user4639281
no explanation is complete without at least one red freehand circle.
3
 
user4639281
12:06 AM
back in a bit, heading home
 
Bye
 
@queen 5k
 
12:27 AM
@Queen k
@Queen k
 
12:54 AM
Is it bad to ask once for the user to consider accepting the answer if they found it helpful?
 
you mean once in your life or once per question
 
Per question that the user finds helpful and comments something like 'it worked thanks so much'
 
I see no problem with it if phrased well. Especially if I am the only guy with any answer. If the guy is low rep he might not even know how to do it (accept an answer)
Do you want to see a few I did recently? I often do it under the Question, no under my answer.
It is more generic, not focusing so much on ME
 
> If you found the answer helpful, please consider accepting it
General format I follow
 
2 days ago, by Drew
I am on my monthly shame the op crusade to get them to vote, delete, whatever.
there, look at the dialogue below that one above
But I certainly don't beg like a crying child under my own answer. Especially if I have peers with answers. To me that is in bad taste if the other guys have decent answers too
 
1:01 AM
> Usually 1 in 10 responds. Most could care less.
?
 
It's a fact from my trials. People are selfish, see a comment, ignore it, and it is forever forgotten because they dont care.
 
Lol
I don't push it. If they don't respond I just move on
But is it bad that I edit it out of my comment once they do so?
 
What is more effective is if someone else points it out to them. That seems to always work. Like some 3rd party
@AndrewL. you mean delete the comment?
 
Exhibit A: this. I asked for an accept if I helped. They did it within seconds, and I removed the comment
Well no, I removed the portion asking because I also had more to say
 
Well you can't edit a comment line after 5 min. You can only clobber it
 
1:04 AM
I sometimes leave comments on (not mine) high voted but non-accepted answers urging the OP to accept if it helped them
 
Most of the people I shame are from old questions 2 weeks 2 months etc
 
I usually clobber outdated comments
@Drew Here's Exhibit B. I don't ask because the user hasn't responded to anything nor has done anything to the answer
 
Well In your exh A you were in a highly fluid in the moment conversation. I am talking about leaving a comment to a guy from weeks ago
 
Yeah; I never leave a request if they don't respond withing 15 minutes of post time
I move on, see what they do
 
One that really ticked me off was a guy that I spent 30 minutes with in chat. Then he goes and does a self-answer making it seem like my stuff wasn't even part of the conversation, but it solved it. And I got no tag points
Then I go and don't answer people for a week
 
1:06 AM
Dang
I just don't like it when the OP never responds. I still haven't heard back from a person since June.
 
A friend once told me people are selfish, stupid, and lazy. Everyday SO confirms that quote.
 
Couldn't agree more lol
But sometimes that may be me so I constantly try to keep myself in check. Everyone's selfish inside
 
I agree. Everyone. Well, except me :p
Before I answer I question, I scan their question history. Sometimes I will write in comments "Well I would love to answer this, but you have 20 total questions with none accepted. That is not how we roll here. Moving on."
 
A bit harsh eh?
 
not really. A reality check.
 
1:14 AM
I guess lol
 
You wanna read harsh, read the comments under Java, c++, and C
 
LOL
 
1:31 AM
Ping'd me but removed? self.interested = True
 
ah ya missed it. Not doing that one again.
 
@Drew you should also link to the related faq entry on mse
 
1:48 AM
@dorukayhan yes Tuna had reminded me of that link. I often forget it.
 
2:13 AM
Morning
 
2:43 AM
@πάνταῥεῖ having fun with zondo?
 
review tag is Docs?
What?
 
@Drew Seems so. I wonder if he's really aged 9 as claimed before :)
 
He was a nice regular here and nice closer for Python. I would pull him into my Campaigns room to help with stuff after a fall out here
Then we got bored closing python and I lost touch with him
Well we all get bored with everything after a few months
 
Zondo is 9?
 
2:57 AM
no
we don't have 9year old Python Golds
 
> Seems so. I wonder if he's really aged 9 as claimed before
Lol
Are the peeps in Teenage Territory actually teenagers?
 
mostly I guess. Quite verifiable
 
user4639281
Waffles
 
Waffle?
I'm a teenager-ish
 
3:36 AM
@Machavity You are not a privileged user. Please see the privileges wiki page for information on what privileges are and what is expected of privileged users.
 
@Machavity Unclear?
 
@πάνταῥεῖ It's garbage is what it is. It's also got an impolite word. It's flag-worthy
I'm actually surprised SD missed it
At any rate, bedtime
 
4:04 AM
The teenage territory is turning to a mine field as soon adults chiming in.
 
user4639281
4:20 AM
You can ask if a post is VLQ or NaA
 
I just realized after reading :)
 
4:38 AM
@Queen k
 
ChatExchange is only Python?
 
user4639281
No, I thought they had JS
 
I hope they do
> A Python API for talking to Stack Exchange chat.
@TinyGiant You mean this?
 
user4639281
yeah
 
6:20 AM
If a mod happens to come by, please consider an undelete here based on this
 
 
1 hour later…
7:33 AM
@Queen k
@Queen k
@Queen k
 
7:55 AM
@Queen k
 
 
1 hour later…
9:08 AM
Plop!
 
I am being downvoted on every post
WTF
no comments or anything
 
@UnknownDeveloper Don't care, move on. The script will reverse that tonight.
 
Every good answer became shit
like someone does it on purpose
 
Don't sweat it... It happens
 
10 * 2 = -20 points
i hard worked on
not sure if i'll get banned from asking
 
9:17 AM
@UnknownDeveloper You didn't read what I just wrote then.
 
and answering
Yep i read it
just pissed
 
Again: There's a script watching that kind of activity. At 1am UTC (or something like that), it'll disappear
@UnknownDeveloper And that's exactly how a troll wants you to feel. The solution: Don't care!
 
Thank you
glad you help
 
It happens all the time, particularly if you're involved in moderation
 
@Kyll has this happened to you a lot ?
 
9:23 AM
Not even once actually =D
 
Damn so Unlucky today
 
But folks around get serially downvoted fairly often, @Tunaki for example
 
so it's a normal thing
 
Would depend on what you call "normal"... It's a dumb thing, done for whatever reasons, that is extremely easily spotted and reversed.
Just take it as a small temporary nuisance
 
Thank you
First an Earthquake in 7 in the morning with 4.5 on the richter scale then this
 
9:25 AM
Pretty sure serial downvoting does not even compare to a freaking earthquake o_o
 
@Kyll Maximum 0.001 on the Richter scale :)
 
> Noticeable shaking of indoor objects and rattling noises. Felt by most people in the affected area. Slightly felt outside. Generally causes none to minimal damage. Moderate to significant damage very unlikely. Some objects may fall off shelves or be knocked over.
I'm lucky to be living in a seismically silent area
 
Hiya
Yes @UnknownDeveloper, those votes will most likely be reversed tonight. I wouldn't worry about it.
 
9:42 AM
@JanDvorak Same, same. I never noticed something above more than 2 at the Richter scale.
 
I never noticed anything at all. We did have one (minor) tornado in a neighboring city, though.
 
@JanDvorak Tornados and earthquakes are orthogonal phenomenons.
@JanDvorak Thinking about a sharkquake ;)
 
Didn't mean to imply otherwise, just that they're both annoying natural phenomenons
 
@JanDvorak Mix with sharks, and you've got a beta hollywood success.
 
beta as in b-rated?
 
9:47 AM
@JanDvorak As in low-rated yes.
 
I wouldn't be sure if Sharknado even qualified for a B
 
10:06 AM
 
@Queen not sure
 
@Tunaki thanks :)
 
10:27 AM
@Queen k
 
11:18 AM
@Queen k
@rene I see you rejected some documentation changes in /review. I have an error when I try to do it =/
 
11:38 AM
The nice way to say fuck off: stackoverflow.com/questions/39435514/…
Oops I missed to put the question link, but its gone right now anyways.
 
@Tunaki yeah, I had to reload a couple of times and skipped some when the error was persistent. Didn't bother to check the reason or root cause of that. I'm visiting my dad atm so didn't want to spend too much time on it.
 
NATO bot gets annoying and produces much noise. What should we do?
 
@rene Ok, nice afternoon then :)
 
@rene Nice to hear your dad's still alive. Not all of us are that lucky. I'd have to tell them something, but they preferred to die before :/
@rene Don't care about that harsh thing, I'm not a nice guy, ya know ;)
 
11:53 AM
@πάνταῥεῖ yeah, in the end turns out they won't last forever so you better get to terms with them when they still know who you are :(
 
@πάνταῥεῖ Yeah, you can ping BhargavRao for some fine tuning :)
 
@rene He never really listened to me, or even tried to understand what I was telling him. I can't say for sure he was a Nazi, but just a disguided Wehrmacht officer, and he was so proud about their rank. Even worse my dad was working as a teacher, guess what I'm thinking of this.
@Tunaki Flag all these NATO bot messages?
 
@πάνταῥεῖ Flag? No. But maybe ask BhargavRao to post them to a separate room while still on early development.
 
@Tunaki I'm sure that already happened, no?
 
Not sure.
 
@Queen k
 
@πάνταῥεῖ we need a TeenBot
 
@Drew Sounds useful!
@Drew Education is important!
 
That was truly horrifying last night. Remind me to stay outta there
 
Huh?
 
12:11 PM
@Drew I enjoyed it somehow to chat with the youngsters ;)
@Drew You just have to be cool what's so hard about it?
 
They wanted to argue about osdev, you offered to teach them anarchy. It was central casting out of an Ed Wood movie.
 
@Drew Yeah, poppcorn :)
@Drew The horse is talking ...
 
You have to watch that Johnny Depp movie if you never did
 
@Drew Anarchy actually works
 
I am not aware of these things. Never heard of it working anywhere. What do I know.
 
12:19 PM
@Drew I almost watched any of Jhonny Depp's movies right now. Pirates of the Caribbean most loved.
 
check out his Ed Wood movie sometime
 
@Drew Its subtle and works under the current watch.
@Queen k
 
@Drew Which one?
 
Aaah that one
 
It's actually a great movie. And I must say I enjoy some Ed Wood's movies :)
 
Anarchy isn't going to be a public technique, but individual all the time.
 
That is not anarchy. That is just a sole crazy guy that lives down the street
Anarchy right now is eastern syria. Howz that workin
 
@Drew I disagree, eastern syria (or the rest) isn't anarchy. Its just pure violence. (Intelectual) anarchy doesn't need violence, but just conciousness.
@Drew That crazy guy most probably teaches you how to survive this crazy world.
@Drew Its terrorism, that is significantly different from anarchy.
@Drew Bring in your brain, It works, be self confident (You've been proposing that to me, just to remind you)
 
12:40 PM
Ok. I will be self confident. Didn't know that was lacking lol
 
@Drew The funny thing is that I believe we're both anarchists in a way. We're undergoing systems by using them and such :)
@Drew Ya know
 
@πάνταῥεῖ Nice music. Trip-hop :)
 
@Tunaki More depth, than you might think of it.
 
@Queen k
 
@Tunaki I've noticed you've started reviewing! I'll update your session record.
 
12:56 PM
The only people that have the potential to rule the world are actually anarchists. I have to admit actually that Donald Trump is an anarchist, and they're doing a good job being so. Not all all anarchists are doing the same, or developing in the same directions. But anarchism (and political incorrectness) is the only way to save us in the long term. Give up the cowardice, speak free and mean what you say!
 
1:11 PM
So, if my favourite supreme leader is openly homophobic, is that nothing against him?
OK... not "openly homophobic", but rather "I can't hold it against you how you feel, but don't do it"
 
@JanDvorak Who's homophobic actually?? Donald is just a whimp. Hillary is (guess what her name says) hilarious. So have your choice. Do you think there's something seriously wrong with your so called "democracy"??
 
Democracy has the issue of relying on humans.
 
Yep, bots should rule.
 
Who would make a robot able to govern?
Humans?
 
@JanDvorak The humans are actually left out from that system.
Peoiple are meant to govern, they're just too lazy to do it actually.
 
1:22 PM
The core issue with any form of government, local or global, is the same: humans suck.
@πάνταῥεῖ No, not really, Humans were meant to follow God's laws. Even finding humans to relay them correctly is tricky.
 
@JanDvorak To some degree they suck yes. Theyll need to be teached doing better.
@JanDvorak Who's god actually?
 
Who will teach the humans how to govern, and how do you know they will follow the teachings after getting the power?
 
@JanDvorak Buddhism is a starting point IMO. Be decent and show compassion.
 
I really like their ideas, but they don't really have a God, do they? How about en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jehovah%27s_Witnesses?
I didn't spend much time exploring Buddhist ideals, but "just chillax" does have something to it
 
@JanDvorak Gods are illusionning themselves, as anything self aware else. No gods, no beings, just samsara.
 
1:33 PM
@Queen k
 
@JanDvorak Show compassion is the main mantra.
 
> You will recognise [true religion] by the love they have for each other - Jesus Christ.
 
That doesn't contradict how harsh I'm appearing at that site herre.
@JanDvorak I don't need jesus.
 
I didn't challenge your appearance on this site. I'm not exactly the best image of Jesus either, even though I try
One issue with reincarnation is that the total number of beings on Earth is not constant over time.
 
@JanDvorak Its all illusion, so what?
 
1:41 PM
What is?
Or rather, if reality is an illusion, what isn't?
 
@JanDvorak Be reflective ...
@JanDvorak Samsara ...
 
I can take "it's all illusion" in the meaning that "God is a programmer and we are a computer simulation".
 
@JanDvorak Maybe. I'm stable within my beliefs.
 
Hiya
 
@BhargavRao Hey
 
1:48 PM
smokey, spam still there
Hey Bhargav
 
@Queen OP accepted the dupe
 
2:14 PM
@Tunaki did you mean: k
 
2:30 PM
Should I try closing already requested cv-pls's more so than finding new ones?
 
@AndrewL. your call really. I find there are many cv-pls requests which I am able to handle, but some which are clearly outside of my areas of expertise, which I should probably leave to others to decide on. In the areas where I spend time anyway, I routinely close vote stuff all the time, though they are rarely so egregious as to require calling out here.
If yours is a tag which doesn't get a lot of traffic, maybe you will often want to bring things to the room's attention, but it should not be your routine action.
On balance, finding the questions which need to be closed is substantially more work than just voting on stuff others have already pointed to, so maybe try to spend some time hunting when you have a quiet period, in preference over just voting
having said that, if there are old requests which are still open, reviewing those would be useful
 
Ok :)
 
@AndrewL. triplee summarized it very well :)
 
but remember, the cv-pls is a request to review, not necessarily always a good idea to actually close vote
 
@Tunaki Agreed
Yeah, thanks @tripleee!
 
2:42 PM
@AndrewL. my pleasure
 
Woops wrong link
 
wafflez
 
There we go
 
2:58 PM
i'll be afk for a while
!!/unnotify 41570 stackoverflow.com-
 
!!/coffee
 
@AndrewL. brews coffee for @AndrewL.
 
user4639281
waffles
 
cookies
 
brownies
 
3:02 PM
scooby snacks
 
user4639281
falafels
 
bretzels
 
Chicken Nuggets
 
3:26 PM
Night o/
 
night
 
Night!
 
Night!
 
user4639281
Night!
 
user4639281
3:46 PM
This is actually a very good link for web debugging questions where it is obvious the user doesn't know what the built in dev tools in the most common browsers are.
 
user4639281
who'da thunk it?
 
4:09 PM
@JarrodRoberson Thanks :) Received it.
morning all o/
 
late afternoon all o/
 
user4639281
mid morning all o/
 
late night all o/
 
soon dinner time all o/
 
user4639281
 
@DalijaPrasnikar At your service as usual.
 
4:33 PM
This IP address (xx.xx.xxx.xx) has performed an unusual high number of requests and has been temporarily rate limited.
blame @Tiny : )
 
user4639281
Is this not a duplicate of this?
 
Hahaha
 
user4639281
@PetterFriberg What were you using?
 
Nato tool, I had little time so clicking a bit to much : )
 
user4639281
Ahh, too fas young grasshoppah, slow down!
 
user4639281
4:36 PM
I am going to have to implement something better.
 
meeh if BR manage to feed you with the new answers that could be a nice solution...
 
user4639281
Yeah, I'm just going to end up making a web service utilizing the API in the same way
 
user4639281
Because I will have to store a list of the most current NATO posts
 
user4639281
And serve them in one request, instead of many requests being performed by each client
 
user4639281
And a websocket to feed updates to the clients
 
4:39 PM
Could be a nice solution indeed.
Sam o/
 
user4639281
One that doesn't require 10k
 
hichris o/
 
Hi!
@TinyGiant Again, I recommend following what @rene did here. Those are the limits of what gets you IP banned.
 
@TinyGiant Yeah lowering rep for NATO would be a really important step, since it's lots of stuff in there..
Dinner time cya...
 
user4639281
cya
 
Sam
4:54 PM
@Tunaki o/
 
@Queen f
 
Was this reported by smokey? stackoverflow.com/a/39438330/4099593
 
5:09 PM
no
 
should something be done about it?
 
5:38 PM
@Queen k
 
What was the link to install your #trainwreck script again? I'd like to make using it.
 
Protip, Search "trainwreck js by tiny giant"
 
@Rizier123 u around?
 
@Drew yes.
 
5:51 PM
this answer of yours... stackoverflow.com/a/26747048 ... could you consider adding the Q for that as another dupe target here stackoverflow.com/q/39438797 where I already have a db related dupe call out
 
user4639281
@Tunaki lol
 
user4639281
I'm making a github page for the scripts now
 
-1 not enough magic
 
user4639281
lol, magic is coming
 
5:56 PM
jQuery is not even included, this is a disaster!
How can it work?!
 
That's the magic
 
user4639281
lol
 
@Drew The question is closed?! (Also do you know about that one: stackoverflow.com/q/279170/3933332 ?)
 
@Rizier123 it closed while i was looking up urls for you
Cool nice reference. thx
 
Does someone have a good Meta link for "don't post pure guesses as answers, wait for clarification"?
 
6:18 PM
that would be a good url to have Tuna
 
6:34 PM
Hello @BrockAdams \o
 
Hello!
 
@hichris123 sometimes I write pretty awesome stuff ...
 
@πάνταῥεῖ keep that one de-escalated. Relax. Breathe.
It's like sending an email. You can't reach out and pull it back when you hit Go
 
6:50 PM
@Drew Yeah. I'm an harsh asshole, have to admit.
 
I'm on my 4th track. Good music
 
@rene I've noticed you've started reviewing! I'll update your session record.
 
Bye all
 
7:10 PM
rene passed a audit!
 
poll: who thinks electric eels should be nicknamed "water pikachu"?
3
 
@rene You've reviewed 40 posts today (of which 1 was an audit), thanks! The time between your first and last review today was 21 minutes and 30 seconds, averaging to a review every 32 seconds.
 
7:31 PM
@πάνταῥεῖ was going thru some c++ questions at cv4. Whatcha doin' with stuff like This ... ugh
gonna give me a heart attack
 
@Drew Get a chill pill
 
plop!
!!/notify 41570 stackoverflow.com-
 
7:49 PM
TinyGiant I know you are lurking your lurker
 
user4639281
Who's lurking where what?
 
oh there you are
 
What does it mean to lurk somebody?
 
I think lurking is an intransitive verb
 
I'm not lurking
 
7:57 PM
mornings. should this really be an audit? stackoverflow.com/q/39033194/576767
 
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