« first day (1008 days earlier)      last day (2801 days later) » 

5:03 PM
afk
 
5:17 PM
@Queen k
@Queen f
Hi everyone!
 
ehy
 
user4639281
eyh
 
5:31 PM
hye
Did we have all possible permutations yet?
 
No since you dropped the H for a h.
 
Yes. But without repetitttttion.
 
@Tiny What did you mean calling me sneaky this morning?
 
user4639281
5:34 PM
@πάνταῥεῖ I went to close vote it only to find out that you had already hammered it :)
 
I'm a son of Thor, and judge wisely what's worth it or not usually
@TinyGiant So I ninja'd you, nice :)
 
user4639281
:P
 
@TinyGiant Well, that's just faster. Also works good for me without the help of Queenie
<<< Kisses their hammer <3
 
user4639281
lol
 
user4639281
wish I had a JS hammer
 
5:39 PM
JQuery can fix that ;)
 
@TinyGiant I was just surprised and confused when I realized I gained these powers 1st time. I also had to learn a bit how to use it wisely.
 
user4639281
@JanDvorak Knew that was coming
 
user4639281
@πάνταῥεῖ I'm sure, I envision you with an evil smile "I HAZ DA POWAH!!!!"
 
@TinyGiant I have a long list (3 pages right now) of fav Q&A I've been always using for this purpose. Even before I got this (undeserved?) powers.
@TinyGiant Wasn't that He-Man (not Thor)?
 
user4639281
5:43 PM
oh yeah
 
@TinyGiant Unless is "I got the powar!", there's no evil
 
@TinyGiant So I appreciate you seem to be old enough remembering this :)
 
user4639281
@πάνταῥεῖ lol, no one here knows how old I really am
 
@TinyGiant Yeah, I failed checking you profile actually :)
 
@TinyGiant I know. Closey told me. But I won't tell anyone.
 
user4639281
5:45 PM
it's somewhere between 24 and 42, or not, I'll never tell
 
@Tunaki You're a confident fish!
 
user4639281
@Tunaki I lied to Closey
 
@TinyGiant Good extension of life and everything.
 
Hello
 
meh
 
5:47 PM
Its 34C and I'm languishing at my desk
 
is that spam?
 
not a spam link...
 
user4639281
@πάνταῥεῖ inorite?
 
hey tuna
 
I don't think it's NAA either -- it almost is though
 
5:48 PM
@TinyGiant Let's check that in about 500 yrs again :)
 
looks link-only to me
 
"Clopper-Pearson interval" could be all it takes to take over the world
 
@JanDvorak almost link-only, but not quite
@Tunaki exactly
 
@Tiny I put a post-it below my screen right now to remember then
 
@Tunaki k
 
5:50 PM
@Queen f
 
@Magisch so I found where the heat went to
 
user4639281
@πάνταῥεῖ perfect
 
is it VLQ though?
 
Back to the serious things:
Today I've been burninating the tag again (there were only 4 questions)
Would it be a good idea to blacklist some certain tags ever being (re-)created?
Or does such feature already exist?
 
Yes black listing tags does exist
 
5:55 PM
@NathanOliver How's that initiated? Asking at MSO?
 
You can do a and/or for tags that need to go on meta
 
@NathanOliver I see, THX. Will do soon.
 
look at that, got the fancy meta tags going \o/
@πάνταῥεῖ No problem
 
hey all
 
5:57 PM
Hi @ColdFire
 
I think Braiam might need you Cold. He is hot today.
 
Everyone was hot today :P. At least in Mid-Europe
 
40+ in Paris
 
lol
 
@FirstStep Fortunately it wasn't that bad here, I think 35+ something
 
6:00 PM
about 27 here today
 
@NathanOliver Cool :)
^ Pun intended
 
@TinyGiant That's what Closey wants you to think.
 
it is 23 in Michigan
 
34°C here...
 
6:04 PM
10.5k close votes?! :(
 
^ forecasted high is the same here
 
Additionally I have to debug some hopelessly over-complicated and over-engineered stuff made by a colleague that went on holidays for the next 2 weeks. Guys I can tell you that sucks so much.
 
@Compass I've noticed you've started reviewing! I'll update your session record.
 
I plan to give them a really bad time when coming back from their holidays
 
Until you go on holiday and they have to debug your code.
:p
 
6:05 PM
@Tunaki Mine is all KISS babe ;)
 
I like KISS.
 
Still better than my situation. I got scammed for +3.6k $ . Realized on Tuesday
 
lol
 
@NathanOliver eh? No, I sent the heat in Magisch way
 
any android guru here?
 
6:06 PM
@Braiam Ah. The way you said it made me think you found the heat
 
@ColdFire I am a beginner kind of
is it complicated?
 
yes very complicated
 
I didn't know the meaning of guru :P
 
@ColdFire Any Guru here at all? I'm not considering myself one for anything :P
 
@FirstStep synonym of Jon Skeet
 
6:07 PM
guru= teacher
 
It takes a guru to write KISS code.
 
kind of master
 
I see
not me
definitely
 
@Braiam How's Jon Skeet a guru actually? (let their look alone)
 
come back in 6 months :P
 
6:08 PM
haha i wasnt aware people know hindi here
 
passes by after checking out random posts in meta
 
@πάνταῥεῖ hehe
 
@NathanOliver Hi gunr
 
@NathanOliver daaa nngg
 
6:08 PM
@NathanOliver me too! 5 times guru
 
Woot \o/
 
@ColdFire Usually it's you that asks for silly clarifications of well known things (like ping pong and such) ;) No offence
 
Fun Fact: Jon Skeet is a guru about Jon Skeet
 
@NathanOliver I didn't even notice we have that badge :)
 
6:10 PM
:)
 
@dorukayhan getting ;)
 
fixed it
gonna write a devrant
 
language
 
about IDE i guess
 
@NathanOliver yes it's Java
 
6:12 PM
lol
 
:)
 
Well I have some experience regarding usage of Android with my Smart Phone
 
^ that it is colored green sort of experience ?
 
I think the highest upvoted answer I've ever had was 15
 
6:12 PM
^me 5 lol
and proud sometimes
 
right now I am at 86
 
@Machavity only 4
 
@dorukayhan we just saw the 38 come onn
cummm onn mate
 
Compass passed a audit!
 
6:14 PM
bunch of slackers
 
i am at 18
 
I got lucky at 63
 
ans a question in 2010
and get 100 upvotes free
 
pretty much
 
even damn silly question
 
6:14 PM
@Tunaki not our fault we don't mine that JS lite rep ;)
 
doesnt matter
 
Or answer an HNQ
 
@ColdFire includes the rep?
 
user4639281
@Tunaki Thats what I want closey to want me to think
 
one liner
 
6:15 PM
I'll take random comments for $500, Alex
 
or link only
@FirstStep 1k rep
 
@Machavity I think they liked your edit. Just took a while to process.
 
Like 4 months
 
man now too difficult android tag is a mess
 
Hopefully not everyone is as crazy as us, here practically every day
 
6:16 PM
what I hate about Android is that it is changing EXTREMELY fast
 
@Compass You've reviewed 40 posts today (of which 1 was an audit), thanks! The time between your first and last review today was 13 minutes, averaging to a review every 19 seconds.
 
and that everytime they update the operating system, we need to update our apps or it might just crash
 
O_O
 
@FirstStep ???? really?
 
6:17 PM
off topic?
 
@Braiam yes. Redicilous
 
the thing that everyone complains about android is that OEM don't upgrade fast enough (if they ever do)
 
@ryanyuyu He's not piping his data to /dev/null. He'd answer much faster if he did
 
The answers to the silliest questions will gain the highest score, that's kind of a natural law here (like _"The devil always s***s at the biggest heap"_)
Oops I disclosed Jon Skeet's inner workings :P
 
@FirstStep android breaks many features with every update
 
6:18 PM
look at SO questions: In C++ you will find 7 years old answers that still work. In Android, 3 months old and does not work any more lol
 
i am kinda used to dealing with this shit now
mobile OS and C++ cant be cmpared
 
@ColdFire I did not mean the comparison betwenn C++ and mobile (Android is not just mobile) but meant to make the clear point
 
even java 7 old year ans works
 
@ColdFire C++ isn't an OS!
 
ok, serious question: isn't android api stable?
 
6:20 PM
@πάνταῥεῖ lol i am aware of that
 
@πάνταῥεῖ what he is saying is technically correct: you can't compare a language and an OS
 
@Braiam Let's say "They're creative" :P
 
@Braiam very unstable
 
one would expect that by now it should have settled
 
why would you ever want to program to an unstable thing?
 
6:21 PM
@Tunaki market share is the only thing that comes to me
 
@ColdFire come on just agree :P
 
@Tunaki because no one else wants to.
 
otherwise, that looks like an hostile env for developing
 
@FirstStep nope that is a flawed comparison
 
backwards compatibility anyone?
 
6:21 PM
yes
i developed apps for gingerbread that is a 5 year old OS
 
:32493078 Tell me more about that business model please. I'm really curious.
 
I edited the message shooot
 
"backwards compatibility"? Bitch, I'm a horse android!
 
well let says i dropped support for it now
 
language guys
 
6:23 PM
@Braiam The past becomes compatible for Jon Skeet.
 
jon skeet even has gold in android
 
without even knowing what android is
even
 
how do we tell a user not to waste their time on this?
 
@Compass BACKTICKS! BACKTICKS EVERYWHERE!
 
6:25 PM
do i just revert the change?
does someone else with more rep want to revert the change?
 
nah, just vote to delete
 
it's a closed question from 2012.
 
They've got a filled up treasure chest of gold badges, so what. That's that thing that makes them somehow useless for _real world_.
They've been staging up to be a god. They can post any crap, and I'm sure it's going to be upvoted.
 
Ah, let me nopenopenope
 
android dev starts yes it works you publish app to play store and wtf so many crashes
 
6:26 PM
oh look it has a delete vote
 
i cant do a delete vote
 
6th stackoverflow.com/q/39152278/3933332 on the homework question row
 
and apparently samsung has messed up the OS
 
also the better thing to do would be to, i dunno, tell them to STOP :/
 
>3k can't vote to close?
 
6:26 PM
its already closed
 
@NathanOliver ooo it has 2! this is miraculous
 
it's been closed for 4 years
 
btw, this is why I'm voting to delete stackoverflow.com/questions/13232266/… <-- no repro
 
@Tunaki They must be replicating.
Same here
 
>3k can't vote to close?
 
6:27 PM
does a rollback bump the page?
 
@Tunaki Done now
 
>3k can vote to close
 
@Compass pretty sure it does
 
I think you're confusing closing and deleting
 
^ yup
always
 
6:28 PM
nope ^
never
 
woop woop woop woop
 
^ maybe ^
perhaps
 
lol^^^^^^
 
And there's even the [on hold] limbo we're sending questions to.
 
sometimes
maybe v
:P
 
6:31 PM
that :(
 
that:(
done
 
a question would you rewrite a code that works but isnt that great?
 
If I had time, always yes
 
why get invited to a chat room by a mod, but then no one says boo ? chat.stackoverflow.com/transcript/121853
 
6:39 PM
hmm... maybe life got in the way
 
@Drew sometimes it takes time, I don't know but it happens with me
@ColdFire Sure. If I need to then I have to. Also it depends if rewriting the whole code from scratch or just some units
 
all I know is yesterday I was pretty psyched. We got some Java guys to talk about some stuff in chat
We spend so much time just trying to get people to talk with one another if you think about it
 
huuuue
if the code isn't great it should probably be rewritten
 
well i have some method that doesnt do what they suppose to do
 
that being said
refactoring should take a seat behind feature requests and bug fixes
if it doesnt do what it's supposed to do
it is a bug fix.
 
6:48 PM
let say i have a method showDialog();
initially that method used to show dialog
but then it became conditional
let say if only x condition meet than that method shows a dialog
is the method name still right
i think it is wrong
becoz it is not showing dialog always
 
you spend time thinking about this ? :p
 
so kinds of it is not notifying that is conditional
@Drew yes it is important for future maintainence
 
i know how to fix your code
rename method to considerShowingDialog()
done.
GG, signed off by JavaDev111
 
nope already thought of that
that is bad too
 
showDialogIfCondition()
 
6:51 PM
0
Q: Blacklist the [SPOJ] tag (and other online code judge/contest engines) please

πάντα ῥεῖI've been burninating the spoj tag today again (there were only 4 questions, so no big deal). I remember doing that somewhere back in time, when it was a harder job. Could we please blacklist tags in general, that are asking about Online Code Judging engines at Stack Overflow. These kind of que...

 
the method signature should describe the behavior
 
user4639281
farbizzle()
 
whoCaresIzzle()
 
if my code completion comes back with .farbizzle() I call it quits for the day.
 
this was an example my problem becomes more complex when there are many methods
 
user4639281
6:52 PM
letsJustGoHome()
 
Posted my formerly concern now at MSO
 
@ColdFire why is that method responsible for the decision to show the modal?
 
user4639281
@πάνταῥεῖ the feed just oneboxed that
 
@πάνταῥεῖ we already know that see above
@ryanyuyu well lets say you have to show that dialog from 10 places
 
6:53 PM
If it is complex and there are many methods, break it down into smaller methods
 
@TinyGiant Oops, didn't even notice :)
 
you wont put the condition at 10 places
 
or leave it as is if refactoring will take too long to practically justify
developer time is finite if it's going to take 4 weeks to make it look nice you'd better not have anything else on your plate <.<
 
like I said you spend time thinking about this?
 
It's the same condition in all 10 places?
 
6:54 PM
@ryanyuyu yes
 
just rename your method magicCode
that'll show them
 
@Drew if you have code that exceeds over lakhs of line i do then
@Drew this is important since after i improved my structure i am able to add new features in 30 mins instead of hours
 
k
 
Ok then it belongs in the method. Rename however you wish. Document that it doesn't always show the modal. If you aren't using the return value from the modal, you could go with TryShowModal with the bool returning whether the modal was shown.
 
maintainence get super easy and fast
@ryanyuyu well i came with a different answer
let me explain
 
6:57 PM
`cnn.com/2016/08/24/us/delaware-zip-line-death/index.html This does not make me feel any better about heights :(
 
what about name method according to event
let say i have a delete button
and that method a confirmdialog
 
onDeleteClicked?
 
i just name method delete()
 
that is fine
 
@ColdFire you can always just git the thing and we look at it
 
6:58 PM
i think it's fine if a delete method confirms and may not actually delete
 
@Drew it is not about code it is about approach
@Compass yes that is what i came up with
 
Yes. And if delete() need confirmation, that's fine and included inside the delete method.
 
delete() just says me hey i am responsible to delete
 
if it's showdialog, though, the issue is that the user doesn't define the show dialog, but something "hidden" shows it, no?
 
leave rest to me
 
6:59 PM
delete() yes maybe delete, or make me spagetti
 
at the very least showDialogIfBlah() to denote that there is a backend non-user defined action preventing it.
 
@Drew spagetti
 

« first day (1008 days earlier)      last day (2801 days later) »