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9:09 AM
@JossieCalderon Hey
 
OK, back to not talking about it
 
Using a mental illness as an insult is demeaning and unfair
 
@JossieCalderon Would you mind not bringing that up again? :)
 
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Listen up everybody: I'm not going to move messages but can we at least try to behave like adults?
 
I do try
 
9:12 AM
@JanDvorak You failed miserably
 
:32459508 k
 
I don't think I've acted immature throughout this
 
I don't think so either.
 
what legitimately grinds my gears though is using aspergers as an insult
 
9:13 AM
Yea, validated.
 
Sure, sometimes not acting is a great response
 
So, what did I do wrong?
 
The problem for everyone involved is that this is not a good discussion topic & we should leave it at that, now that we've all learnt it the hard way.
 
That ^
 
@rene I'm doing that all of the morning now :)
 
9:13 AM
Or you risk yourself getting flowered
 
I though we had and finished that discussion months ago.
 
sigh
 
heya @πάνταῥεῖ
 
anyway moving on, thanks for your attention
 
9:14 AM
@πάνταῥεῖ Hiya! o/
 
@Seth \o
 
@kayess Don't you dare making fun of me :o
 
hiya navta
 
@Seth no never, free waffles for Jan :x
 
@kayess Good ò.ó I'll confiscate those waffles... for ... security reasons Nomnomnom
 
9:16 AM
English, please
 
@JanDvorak That was perfect english (Ver. "Derp").
ô.ô
 
American or British english, please.
 
lol
 
@JanDvorak What about American english (Ver. "Derp")? ô.o
 
never heard of it, so no
 
9:18 AM
Aw. Okay.
 
Vi ohl spieks Youropian English, jäs?
 
@tripleee Aiaiai :D
 
Is this a good Q? cc @Cee-sharpki It seems to me that OP might need to profile his own code, however I'm literally a zero in java world
 
@RiggsFolly Yep
@kayess The answer to that is simple, the JGC sucks.
The question itself isn't bad imo.
 
@Seth I don't understand that... yes the Q seems to be good, just lacks research effort (eg: including profiling results for instance (?))
 
9:22 AM
@kayess The garbage collector (the tool that cleans up the memory) is bad.
Bad as in really really really bad.
 
All good? I saw things got heated a tiny bit a few mins ago
 
As in, it actually pauses your app so that it can delete the things your app doesn't know about
 
@MadaraUchiha it's 30C outside already :(
 
@MadaraUchiha Yes hello good morning
 
@MadaraUchiha rene was here to fix us up
 
9:23 AM
Cool
@Adriaan lol
 
@rene ^ there
 
And today's quite chilly compared to the rest of the week
 
@Adriaan Same ._. ....
 
26 here
 
I'm melting already ._.
 
9:24 AM
@MadaraUchiha yes, I'm trying to recover what happened
 
@MadaraUchiha google.co.il/#q=weather+in+delft I lied, only 27C :(
 
And the AC is on max. power.
 
@rene I've seen the flagged message
Haven't gotten to read all of the context yet
 
@Seth india?
 
Apparently I failed miserably at pretending to be an adult
 
9:24 AM
@MadaraUchiha you'll need some time ...
 
@ColdFire Germany :c 30°C is not a joke for my puny european body that's used to some nice cold weather...
 
@JanDvorak if you need feedback, start a separate room and invite me
 
@rene Right, so I'm going to count on your cleanup and continue with my dayjob until something else happens :D
 
Let's all use Israeli Google from now on :D
 
9:25 AM
@JanDvorak More people failed at more things...
 
@MadaraUchiha I flagged that message, but it only cursorily had to do with the earlier discussion
 
But that's usually the case
 
I still think using a mental illness as an insult is flag worthy
 
@Magisch I agree.
 
@JanDvorak In case you didn't know yet, you're not helping in those case because you're so to the fact. You need a bit of emotion ;)
 
9:26 AM
You mean flagging is mental illness?
 
@Magisch asperger's is not an illness, though
 
@MadaraUchiha Started off with this. :/
 
@tripleee IIRC its classified as a mental illness in most places
thats besides the point though, using it as an insult is far from ok
 
@Magisch you have one in the family? I do
 
@tripleee Yeah, my little cousin is on the spectrum
 
9:27 AM
@Seth Ohhhh boy. When the first sentence has "respect" and "gender", I can imagine how productive and mature the discussion following must be.
 
Which is one of the reasons why I'm allergic to people using it as an insult
 
@Magisch no argument there, just terminology
 
@MadaraUchiha If I may give you an advice, coming from someone deeply annoyed by the way this went down: Brace yourself, that whole discussion was sh*t.
Or just don't read it at all.
 
@Magisch I don't know anyone IRL on the spectrum. It's still a shitty thing to do, and I won't tolerate it.
 
It was facts vs emotions & vice versa, and that's never fun.
 
9:28 AM
We have an aspbergers kid here and he is definitely not ill cause of that... just has special focus on things in life
 
@Seth as a mod, I don't think you have a choice ...?
 
@tripleee Well, the room moderation is up to the ROs, so I think Madara could ask rene to take care of it?
Considering there were two insults.
I don't know tho :p
 
So better yet let me invite you guys to burn your close votes on godaddy for example...
 
@tripleee It was handled, so unless I want to be ready for the aftermath, I'm not required to read it.
 
@Seth yeah, I guess chat is different in that way, IIRC
 
9:30 AM
@MadaraUchiha Sure, its always shitty. Its just that I'm sensetized to it because unfortunately I often have to hear about how shitty some people treat my cousin because she has aspergers
 
I think I got the gist of it, and I have the start of the conversation in an open tab, in case I have some time later.
For now, I'm juggling between work and chat, so I'll delay that for now :D
 
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@tripleee Most people who have something that's classified as "mental illness" are not really ill. They're just a bit different than most others (though everyone is different in his own way).
I don't really like the term "illness" for it either, but you have to categorize that sort of stuff somehow :p
 
mental illness is a misnomer
 
@MadaraUchiha: Sidenote, I didn't just ping Magisch out of the blue there. We were both involved in the related meta thread.
 
9:32 AM
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@Seth anomaly?
 
@JanDvorak Maybe c:
 
drama in so chat, nothing has changed :P
 
hehe
 
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9:35 AM
rene in full clean up mode
:D
 
runs out for the watering hose
 
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@Magisch Yup :D
 
@πάνταῥεῖ Technically it's not asking for a library
 
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9:40 AM
I'm sorry I got so upset. I honestly think we need to keep this topic out of chat from now on. I didn't see the support that was in the room, and got way too upset and shouldn't have sworn at everyone.
Unfortunately we all have our issues, which is why there is that social adage where I live, never discuss religion, sex or politics, as it invariably leads to arguments.
 
Idk why but for some reason the word rene looks way better in italics
 
@πάνταῥεῖ Closed as broad
 
@Magisch yes, that's why I keep using it that way
 
@Magisch Oh, Rénè!
 
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@tripleee I want to thank you as being a very calm influence generally.
 
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9:41 AM
@rene ok I'll go back to my self-imposed time out. Be back tomorrow.
 
@JanDvorak It does indirectly more or less.
 
I don't think banning topics altogether is a very good idea.
We're all(?) adults.
 
I misread that to: We're all audits. :#
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@Cerbrus Being an adult doesn't mean that we cannot loose control ;o
 
lol
 
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9:43 AM
ok and also, I hold no hard feelings with anyone here, so hopefully that is reciprocated and we can move on .. well I have to go back to my naughty corner until tomorrow. bye \o
 
@kayess You spent too much time in the CV queue :)
 
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@Cerbrus just a local saying
 
@Yvette bye \o
 
user3956566
@ColdFire \o
 
@Yvette No hard feelings either :) Cya tomorrow o/
 
9:43 AM
@Seth: Sure, but that shouldn't be a reason to ban certain discussions.
 
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@Seth same \o
 
@Yvette cya
 
I'll be careful with mentioning "Hard feelings", guys...
 
The FAQ has something on agree to disagree but that is hard for topics you feel so connected to.
 
*ciugh*
 
9:44 AM
@Cerbrus Would prevent bushfire discussions though
@Cerbrus cringes
>.<
 
@Seth Are you sure? It's also a way to get topics someone dislikes banned.
 
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@rene well sorry for being in another broiled.. you know how it goes. It's just my personality. Bloody difficult.
 
@Cerbrus Mh, true.
 
user3956566
I mean my personality is difficult
 
That's primarily the reason I think everything should be discuss-able
 
9:46 AM
I don't want to hide what happened. I think I cleaned up the stuff in the transcript were it went over the edge or where it could be misinterpreted when read out of context. If there is anything left that you think might need to be moved let me know.
 
I mean, as soon as we start banning subjects, where does it end?
 
wow what a discussion over a simple comment of cerebrus
 
^ Worst case scenario, but you know what I mean.
 
@Yvette yeah, no problem, we'll deal with you... somehow ;)
 
As a side-effect, I'm now suddenly very aware of all words that could have a sexist meaning -.- ... worst...
 
9:48 AM
@rene i read the whole transcript ,i think there is nothing to be removed, you cleaned up whatever wasnt required
 
@Magisch the DSM calls it a disorder, which I think is a better term
 
> I mean my personality is difficult
 
@Yvette np and thanks (-:
 
I never got that excuse
 
@Kitler All personalities are difficult. You'll only find out when you bring them together.
 
9:52 AM
@Kitler I agree. If one knows one is difficult, doesn't that make it less difficult?
 
that + why is it up to everyone else to deal with it
 
That
 
I'm not difficult I think
 
Hi @PetterFriberg , quick question: I was able to "summon" Caprica 6 to my room but I want to program it, to do what @SmokeDetector is doing. Do you have any ideas if it is possible? I have raised an issue/question on git github.com/Zirak/SO-ChatBot/issues/281
 
"Why'd you steal that car?" "'Cause I'm a thief! That's what I am."
 
9:54 AM
@AndyK why not fork smokedetector itself?
 
@AndyK Cap doesn't support that.
Nowhere close
 
ah shoot
 
@Cerbrus Let's end this now, OK cc @Kitler
 
because I got this message
 
:+1:
 
9:55 AM
You know what I'm going to carry on
 
@AndyK with?
 
with setting up SmokeD
it will be a good exercise for me
 
Using SD, right?
 
yes @Cerbrus
 
10:14 AM
isn't "k" a shortcut for "tpu-"?
 
@Cerbrus I wasn't aware it includes blacklisting the user, THX
 
Our wingman is back :P
Let's see if he's gonna suggest an edit
 
@Cerbrus WTF
 
Hm?
 
@Cerbrus What kind of bot is this?
 
10:25 AM
But, person, whatever. He's a regular spammer
 
@Cerbrus What the wingman
 
@Cerbrus Remember to see them yes. But always uses the same account nick? How silly is that :P
 
@πάνταῥεῖ Deliberately does it, 'cause it's a troll, not a spammer
An attention vampire.
 
@DEAD Something like that must be, yes.
 
10:29 AM
It is. I'm not making assumptions.
That said, anyone else like vanilla ice cream other than Jan?
 
Who doesn't?
 
I like vanilla ice cream, not Vanilla Ice
 
\o
 
Sam
10:36 AM
@DEAD Me me me!
 
@πάνταῥεῖ: do you really need to be pinged for SD reports?
 
bah, I couldn't even click "flag". Stop outsniping me
 
hiya @Adriaan
 
Sam
@Yam opt-in
 
Yam
@Sam You're already opted in. Duh.
 
10:37 AM
@Cerbrus Well why not?
 
Sam
@Yam Just checking...
 
@kayess Hayi!
 
That was ridiculously fast
 
self-deleted. WAT
 
@πάνταῥεῖ there were some gripes that the bot is too noisy, see discussion at github.com/Charcoal-SE/SmokeDetector/issues/195
 
10:44 AM
@tripleee Ah about the notification box. That I actually don't want. I want to react when I'm around here only.
 
@TLM \o
 
@πάνταῥεῖ I switched to Chrome just to be able to use the plugin and it's working nicely for me so far
lemme dig up the discussion with the links
Aug 19 at 7:46, by Yvette
https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/fight-spam-on-se-sites/pkpdgmdicibddkg‌​kikdfnaggkdobhmgk?utm_source=chrome-app-launcher-info-dialog
predictably, if you scroll down a bit, another instance of the troll discussion, pretty identical to just now
 
@tripleee THX, I installed it now
 
Classic oil painting from 1814
 
10:53 AM
@πάνταῥεῖ if you unnotify, only @PraveenKumar left to convince (-:
 
@tripleee I have to ask Petter to unsubscribe me, right?
 
11:09 AM
@πάνταῥεῖ no, there's a command, just like when you did !! / notify to opt in
the linked chat message above (by Yvette) is followed immediately by me requesting removal from the notify list ... though I forgot to add a final minus, to have the bot shut up about removing me
Smokey isn't Petter's bot anyway AFAIK, maybe there's a separate bot you want to unsubscribe from, too
 
!!/unnotify- 1413395 stackoverflow.com
 
@πάνταῥεῖ That configuration doesn't exist.
 
!!/unnotify 1413395 stackoverflow.com
 
@πάνταῥεῖ That configuration doesn't exist.
 
Hiya
 
11:14 AM
@Tunaki Hiya! :)
@πάνταῥεῖ Do you mean "!!/unnotify 41570 stackoverflow.com "?
 
@tripleee Looks like I'm too dumb to do this :(. Wasn't I supposed to refer to my user ID there?
 
No, room id
:)
 
!!/unnotify 41570 stackoverflow.com
 
@πάνταῥεῖ I will no longer ping you if I report a post on stackoverflow.com, in room 41570 on chat.stackoverflow.com
 
:]
 
11:16 AM
Kewl :D
Just got back from lunch
Much appreciated, @πάνταῥεῖ
 
Wb wolf ;o
 
@Seth Okey :)
 
@πάνταῥεῖ agree that it sucks that you have to put the room ID in there; it should know which room you're in just like it knows your id
 
@Seth what's happening there,
 
@tripleee Sounds like a feature request
 
11:18 AM
@Tunaki Uhh, one sec. I'll send you the beginning of that discussion.
 
2 hours ago, by Seth
@MadaraUchiha Started off with this. :/
 
All good now, you may still want to read it though.
Thanks Cerb :3
 
oh yeaaaaaaa;
reading....
 
@Cerbrus I was vaguely planning to ask for that at some point, but if that functionality is discouraged here, I guess I won't bother
 
@Tunaki just hop in slack , will you?
 
11:22 AM
@rene What's slack? o.o
 
@Seth the RO room
 
hopping...
 
@rene Ah! Thx c:
 
@Seth Buch of Slackers ;-)
 
@Cerbrus Hehehe :D
 
11:30 AM
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Tuna cleaning up c:
 
Cleaning Fish is a clean Fish cleaning up Fish
 
@Magisch That seems fishy ô.ô
 
Morning
 
11:36 AM
Hey NO o/
 
Hey YES o/
 
Hey @Nathan
 
@Tunaki :-P
To everyone else o/
 
Isn't it funny that right when we had the giant drama fall out no RO was here
and now they're all here
 
@Magisch try to have drama not at 8AM when I'm on vacation guys
 
11:41 AM
Plop to everyone :D
 
:)
 
Hey Rizier :D
@Tunaki Will do. Want me to mail you a schedule for the next drama? :3
 
@Seth yes please
 
@Tunaki Okay, I need your email please :) Is it Tunaki@UnderWater.blub?
 
how.. did you know?
 
11:44 AM
@Magisch rule #15: In absence of all room owners, the members lead by example. from the FAQ also relevant the text under Why do we need room owners?
 
Uhh... I'm just good! @Tunaki
I totally didn't get the email from a flower... nooo
 
> Q: Why do we need room owners?
> A: In absence of all room owners, the members lead by example.
 
they set such a nice example...
 
Hehe
 
11:47 AM
@rene We tried :c It's hard though, emotions & facts, when mixed, result in a very ugly, disturbing discussion >.<
And I'm not getting paid enuff for dis :(
 
haha
 
Nobody is ... we failed collectively ...
and let's move on
 
Aye :)
Wait, no.
I cannot move while it's 30°C+ outside.
I'd melt in seconds.
Better plan, please.
 
Switch tabs. Change chair. Reboot computer.
 
@Seth yeah, it will stay is way for awhile
 
11:50 AM
@rene 3 days ._. ... And I'm driving to work by bike. :|
@Tunaki Will try c:
 
I'm taking a day off tomorrow ...
 
@Seth Me too
Was 36°C yesterday... 31 already today at 2PM
 
@rene Good idea :| Can't do that though, I have school tomorrow >.<
@Tunaki Holy moly..
 
28°C here today. rain in the forecast though :(
 
@NathanOliver I envy you... I want rain ._.
 
11:55 AM
We need it
 
I want it :(
 
To bad you can't have it. It's ours and I was never taught to share :-P
 
>.< Curses!
 
@NathanOliver You weren't taught not to make typos also :p
 
@rene It wasn't an insult
@rene What do you think we could have done better, for future reference?
@Seth 33° here seth
 
11:59 AM
No I wasn't. Typical American education system let me go through the early years of school with bad english grades since I was really good with math and science.
 
No rain forecasted till tuesday. 34-36° tomorrow, 36-38° friday forecasted
Entirely too warm for this
 

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