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4:00 PM
@PetterFriberg I already have, however it's useful to educate them.
 
You've provided them with the opportunity.
 
ffk
 
4:20 PM
@QPaysTaxes are you using windows?
:P
 
Hmm guys you are to many on @cybermonkey post, you are firing the comment classifier
There is a rule in SOCVR to avoid being to many people that comments on one post ("don't pile), and interestingly these comments are firing the NLP system checking for offensive comments, so I guess the rule has sense, better to lower the stress level and move on
its actually fairly interesting is this offensive or not
> There isn't such a requirement, but people are also free to vote as they like. Low quality answers to duplicate questions often attract downvotes. Sometimes even delete votes.'
hence you are telling OP that answered that his answer is low quality... offensive / non constructive or it ok?
 
that's mostly being frank, no need to sugar-coat the truth
 
@PetterFriberg I wouldn't approve it as a flag...
 
I can see why it can be seen as passive aggressive, but you can't tell OP "your answer is low-quality" any nicer
 
ok, thanks for feed back
 
4:37 PM
hey, thats one of my comments
 
People vote based on usefulness. Answers on duplicates (unless they're of extraordinary quality) are generally more harm than good. Hence the downvotes. Removing the post is not required, but then again, neither is removing any of the votes. I'm temporarily locking this post to prevent the extended discussion in comments. If you wish to contest the votes or the decisions made by me or other members of the community, feel free to post on Meta Stack Overflow. — Madara Uchiha ♦ 1 min ago
 
I could try and sugar coat some more but I prefer being honest but not mean
 
escalation has been done:P
 
np @Magisch I mostly trying to understand how to classify different stuff
I actually did not flag and had no other thoughts for now other then avoid the adding comments.
anyway you scored high on nlp : ), 0.99
 
nlp?
 
4:42 PM
we have a machine learning system which have been feed with bad and good comments your was 99% bad according to the computer, but they are often wrong : )
natural language
 
processing
 
that
 
Important to improve it is, that I understand what is good and what is bad so we can teach it correctly
I'm still fairly confused so its hard to teach it when not even teacher knows : )
 
Consistency is important. If you let it come up the bed once, you'll have a hard time forbidding it for a month;)
 
Feeling sorry for them and comforting them at the wrong time is where most people get it wrong
 
4:46 PM
heh, Madara, the typical nurturing kind;D
 
If the dog reacts negatively to something and you reward them with pets and hugs, they learn that reacting negatively to something is OK
@AndrasDeak Yeah, take my cutie for example:
 
@MadaraUchiha does this mean I don't get scooby snacks anymore meep meep
 
Thats why I'm glad I have cats instead
Cats give no damns
 
I got him under control really quickly ;)
 
kyuubi?:P
 
4:47 PM
tosses jon some
 
the ears are a dead giveaway
 
@AndrasDeak The ears?
Not the nine tails?
 
I trained him so that one look into my eyes and he does as I say.
 
which eyes?
 
4:49 PM
Benjamin Gruenbaum from the JS room gets an email with a plea for help.
 
@MadaraUchiha The best answer
 
nice:D
 
Aight, time to leave the office
ttyl
 
see you
 
The ultimate troll would be to have the guy do it and then the Q gets closed before ben can answer
 
4:53 PM
:D
 
@Magisch To be fair, if that were to happen, I'd open it myself just out of respect to Benji getting someone to donate $400 :D
 
Has anyone done an analysis on what percentage of CVQ reviews are completed vs aged away?
 
Yeah I saw it on a meta post.... hmm will be hard to find...
lot lot of stuff age away ; ), let me see if I can find it.
 
I'm mainly wondering if I'm wasting my time (and CVs) on the general queue, rather than signing up with Closey and focusing on a group effort.
 
5:00 PM
afk
 
I helped Jon Skeet to close a question: stackoverflow.com/q/38189462/3933332 :O
 
somebody hit a very hard wall very fast
 
5:23 PM
@Floern since you're hot on obscure bugs: what do you think about the disappearing comment on this deleted post?
it belonged to the OP who got nuked; now there seems to be a link to a comment that doesn't appear if you click it:)
 
@AndrasDeak That's a known glitch - just ignore it for now :)
 
thanks, will do:)
I wouldn't have bothered about Floern's previous bugs either, deleted stuff are obviously low-priority
 
it happens when a mod destroys an account and they have a comment which gets re-associated to Anon which puts it into a kind of limbo...
 
spooky:D
 
@AndrasDeak mods can't undelete a comment deleted by the OP - we can see them but we can't undelete them. So when I nuked that user - they had a comment on their post which got deleted by what's now Anonymous (which is kind of the OP but isn't...) - so it's limbo - obviously it doesn't happen often and it's known about :)
 
5:33 PM
@JonClements thanks for the background:) I figured that it happens rarely, and is unimportant even in those cases.
 
5:45 PM
wat
 
lol
 
dat wall of test lul.
 
I think OP might not have been able to post with that little text between code blocks
 
I am actually amazed they exactly fit the number of characters to fit the page without having an offset on each line
 
@FélixGagnon-Grenier that might have been automatic
look at the html block, it has dozens of "test" on a single line inside
we should introduce OP to lipsum
 
5:49 PM
:p
 
6:16 PM
"Ohes noes, I fownd som hak skript on teh interwebz adn it dont workz!!!! Halp plz! I promize n0t for ilegalz!" ... Yeah... right... — Alexander O'Mara 1 min ago
 
6:35 PM
@AndrewL. this comment was not well received by NLP: stackoverflow.com/questions/38189918/…
I'm not judging just telling what the computer thinks ; )
 
Yeah... I've deleted that - I get the intent but it can certainly be phrased better :)
 
Blacklisted for an NAA-?
 
@AndrewL. it was not my intention to show some bad stuff, Tuna, Magisch, Me we have all been in that feed.... so do not worry just think about it
even Jon : )
 
@theB I suspect they were promoting their own extension, just like they are now promoting their own website without disclosure.
 
Aah I see it now...
 
6:40 PM
@AlexanderO'Mara should that be flagged as spam?
 
@JacobGray That's how I flagged it. They don't have any other redeeming content.
 
Well, there he goes...
 
back
 
I'd love to comment but "be nice" and "don't target users" prevents me
 
@Jon very long comments thread (where people are arguing, not really rude) should we use custom flag on them... or just leave em)?
 
6:46 PM
my two cents: most of those often raise auto-flags
 
Umm... if the comment thread reaches a certain point - there's already an auto-flag
 
ok, I leave it, thanks
 
Well, someone ignored my how-not-to-be-a-spammer comment.
 
but if it's descending in a direction that's really not good - then flag it
 
@JonClements oh really?
that's good to know
 
@Tunaki Yes - really.
 
@Tunaki we already know that...
 
I'll show myself out then
 
@PetterFriberg yup - that's already got an auto-flag on it :)
 
6:47 PM
ok perfect I can ignore it
 
didn't remember it was this specific...
 
aah but that is not per comment-thread
 
although if anybody wants to game the system based on this information by not leaving another comment...then mission succeeded:D
@Tunaki ?
How many comment threads can a post have? Or what do you mean?
 
"more than 25 comments posted in the past 3 days" means on the whole site for 3 days
not under the same answer
as-in really really long discussion
 
??
it's under "Per post flags"
Have you had your coffee today?
 
6:52 PM
maybe not
 
I'd be raising flags all over the place if I couldn't comment 25 in 3 days
so would you:)
 
Anyway that one's dealt with... :)
 
I have 2,065 comments for 369 days
 
That makes my 1st comment there meta.stackoverflow.com/a/317988/5067311 a bit wrong :D
 
♫It's rainin flags, Hallelujah... ♫
 
6:54 PM
ok that's only 5.6 comments per day
@Tunaki yes.
XOR I'm the confused one:)
we'll never knoooow cue theremin music
 
@PetterFriberg thanks for bringing that to my attention, could you, if possible, tell me what I said? I'm not sure I remember but I'd like to improve my communication
 
wait I will search, I did not know Jon was lurking : )
 
Thanks :^)
 
this is too broad and the question is badly presented. We can't help or assist those who make it hard or impossible.
 
6:58 PM
Ahh. Thanks @JonClements
 
@AndrewL. The computer classify it as bad from these word "badly presented" "who make it impossibile", hence its some what insulting to the OP
 
NLP as in natural language processing?
 
Yeah, it was too harsh
 
@AndrasDeak and you're telling me now after 4 months :(
spam
 
7:22 PM
Is it just me or are the humans outnumbered by bots... Smokey, Closey, Yam, Pham, Edit Monitor, Zephyr... tuna
 
The bots will rule the world someday. Join us.
 
But.... how do you know I'm not a bot?
 
Obviously, you're a rubber duck. Bots look more like random geometric shapes or blurry flowers.
 
So what you're saying is that bots look like this? :D
 
@theB Or sometimes this
 
7:27 PM
It has blurried since I changed it... hmmmm...
 
:D
 
I, for one, welcome our new bot overlords.
When reviewing the reopen queue, should there be a presumption that the original close reason was valid?
 
@RyanBemrose no
 
@Tunaki yes.
 
is the spam character check lifted at 2K?
 
7:35 PM
@Tunaki isn't this your original gravatar?
 
@rene for Smokey?
There's a rep limit yeah, not sure if it's 2K though
 
@Tunaki no, for users that edit posts that trigger the non-latin chars block: meta.stackoverflow.com/a/327381/578411
 
7:48 PM
@PraveenKumar it could be phrased better but there is a question there - why so keen to delete it - why not just leave it closed as a dupe?
 
@JonClements Dupe, and the question is like not clear... Yea, it could be rephrased... :)
 
There's a reason you get edit privs. before you get del. vote privs... cough
 
I'm not going to del vote that either @PraveenKumar
 
@JonClements Okie...
Is there a way to revert back the vote? I am planning to rephrase the question.
 
Nope.
 
7:51 PM
:(
 
And it won't age away, I think.
 
Nope - it'll stay there now... remember - just because you can delete vote doesn't mean you should unless there's nothing else you can do with it... in this case - if you can edit it and it's a dupe - then edit it :)
 
@JonClements Sure...
 
@Tunaki yup - delete votes don't expire
Thinking about it - I might delete it then immediately undelete as there's users that seem to go through the 10k tools looking to spend a delete vote on anything that already has one... sighs
 
7:53 PM
@JonClements Great! That resets it. There's a way. But sorry for troubling a mod. :(
 
Okay that's done and you'll probably have your delete vote back now - use it on something that needs it next time though please?
 
@JonClements Sure... Hey, thanks! :)
 
Just edit the post :)
 
8:05 PM
@RyanBemrose Meh, I don't know if that's quite an offsite resource request.
 
even off-topic period since it is also asking for legal advice.
 
@Tunaki At first glance, legality looks irrelevant as it sounds impossible.
 
@rene I've noticed you've started reviewing! I'll update your session record.
 
@AlexanderO'Mara Probably should've said software library request. Same close reason. Can't edit it now.
 
rene passed a audit!
 
8:08 PM
@RyanBemrose Maybe I don't know enough about the topic, but is the question possibly asking if there is a native implementation, rather than looking for 3rd party solutions?
 
@PraveenKumar Thank you for the edit
 
@JonClements Ah! :D
 
@AlexanderO'Mara The question has four link-only answers pointing to various software libraries, and many of the others are either links to offsite libraries, or instructions how to roll your own.
 
@AlexanderO'Mara Yeah, agreed. That is not a request for tools -- otherwise, any question asking "how can I do x" is off-topic.
@RyanBemrose So? The question doesn't ask for an off-site resource.
 
@RyanBemrose That is not really a resource request yeah. It can attract answers with "See here my wonderful library!!" but in and of itself, it is asking for a solution of implementing something, not asking where to get the solution
I saw it patrolling NATO also
 
8:17 PM
I'm not really seeing the distinction, but I'll take your word for it. The question is also too broad, but whatever.
 
Too broad, I really don't know. Not an Android dev
 
I don't appear to be able to retract it at this point.
 
@RyanBemrose No, it's fairly specific. No effort isn't a close reason, it's a cause for downvoting.
 
@rene You've reviewed 40 posts today (of which 2 were audits), thanks! The time between your first and last review today was 16 minutes and 8 seconds, averaging to a review every 24 seconds.
 
Now take this one: ---------------------v this is asking for a library (came up in NATO)
can't blame the answer there
 
8:24 PM
What's NATO? I suspect you aren't getting question links from the North Atlantic Treaty Organization.
 
@Tunaki Although if you delete the answer, the question can be roomba'd.
@RyanBemrose It's a list of New Answers to Old Questions... which somehow someone abbreviated to NATO (it makes no sense).
 
The difference between asking for a library and a poorly-researched wide-open question seems to be a three-word edit. "Is there any way to do X" versus "Is there a library to do X"
Both are asking for the same thing, but one is a clear CV, and the other remains open?
 
@hichris123 :(
You'll have to blame BhargavRao for that acronym :)
 
@Tunaki Hey, it's the truth... a lot of terms this room comes up with are really strange.
@RyanBemrose Yeah, that is a bit strange but tool-recs being off-topic is history and doesn't seem to be changing anytime soon.
 
at least they are low-quality, from the Q&A point of view
That's NAA ("me too help")
 
8:32 PM
veeeeeery sketchy
but ok
 
or spam, but assume good will
I guess?
 
Flagged NAA
 
yup
 
And who deleted it?
It was really fast, so I guess a mod.
 
Ok, now guess the mod.
 
8:34 PM
@hichris123 Wait, that's what "NATO" stood for?
 
:D
@TIPS yes
 
I thought these guys were making military jokes.
 
that's just the first level of multiple subtle oniony layers of wit
 
Feb 23 at 18:47, by Bhargav Rao
Oh And NATO means New Answers To Old questions which is this page http://stackoverflow.com/tools/new-answers-old-questions
 
You gotta admit, that acronym is pretty screwed up
 
8:35 PM
how so?
I think it's great
 
@TIPS No kidding.
 
Seriously, what's wrong with it? I think it's a great mnemonic
sure beats SOCVRQ *runs away*
 
@AndrasDeak There's a word missing. Not to mention it doesn't even signal what it means.
 
it's what people do
we have a buttload of accurate acronyms that make absolutely no sense and confuse the hell out of people
TB, NAA, FGITW, CV, take your pick
at least NATO can be pronounced
 
What? You can't pronounce FGITW?
 
8:39 PM
I can, but I'm Hungarian
 
Now I want to hear it :D
 
Sam
I have yet to accurately pronounce SOCVR.
 
@Sam I can pronounce that too:D
in Hungarian, of course
 
Why does this feel like it was C&P out of a book? stackoverflow.com/a/37982615/821878
 
Sam
:o
 
8:40 PM
> The structure of an activation record is illustrated in Figure 1.7.
 
Is there a flag for plagiarism?
 
that ^
 
@RyanBemrose Custom flag - mention plagiarism with source
 
@Sam I bow to your incredible Google-fu
 
8:42 PM
I found it too, but the link was too long:(
 
Sam
lol
 
Sam actually wrote the book.
 
he's in touch with his lawyers right now to sue for royalties
 
@AndrasDeak They are actual acronyms though. And they don't have a meaning in everyday life.
 
@AndrasDeak I bow to your supposed Google-fu.
 
8:43 PM
@RyanBemrose it's more than that, it's alleged
 
@AndrasDeak LOL :D
 
@hichris123 I think that's the whole point of NATO:D NATO is so unrelated to programming that I can't really imagine this to cause confusion
clearly it's not the case
 
Sam
@AndrasDeak Pfft, mind readers these days.
 
@Tunaki Theoretically, that link could hold an answer, but either way I'd call it LQ
My instinct is to say any "Try this" answer is NAA, because the answerer doesn't appear to know if it's an answer or not.
 
8:58 PM
I am reading the "Give this a spin" as an answer.
Like "Yeah whatever you want to do in your question, just try it"
wasn't sure though
then the rest is irrelevant
 
9:12 PM
it has 1 delete vote
yep
 
it's not even an answer
"How do I run this in windows?" "Use linux."
 
@QPaysTaxes It's my vote :D
 
@QPaysTaxes already did :)
 
9:14 PM
:)
 
@QPaysTaxes I'm afraid you're not objective enough to appreciate my comparison
our answerer clearly thinks that IntelliJ is "objectively more of a pain to use" than Eclipse
SSD?
FWIW my ubuntu has 4.8.4
 
@QPaysTaxes Switch to Visual Studio. :-P
 
then again I don't develop C
 
The real question, of course, is why you would C++ in the first place :p.
 
yeah, switch to php like normal people
 
9:22 PM
@QPaysTaxes No, please continue. You were just getting to the good part.
 
So...regarding my earlier revelation.‌​..does this mean that the entirety of PHP is undefined behaviour?
 
pfffff
you gangbangers, we're not even around here to counter you
 
who's us?:D
and if you look at the link there ^, you'll see that I started with the most honest of intentions
 
good question. as I'm a php guy, I'll say it's "undefined persons"
 
haha
 
(I'm a bit tipsy, please disregard anything I might say that might offend you)
 
cheers:)
 
(I'm a bit of a jerk, please disregard anything I say that offends you too)
 
@FélixGagnon-Grenier Hey who you calling TIPSy
 
9:25 PM
haha
apparently the real one just came back, I'm getting my senses again
@QPaysTaxes you missed that whole pdo thing didn't you?
 
@QPaysTaxes *C9
I'm getting you'll never get my name right, right?
What would be the fun in that?
 
well basically.... there's half the world's websites that run on apache / php / mysql so the internals tend to try and keep backward incompatibility to a minimum
hehe
 
@QPaysTaxes (╯T_T)╯︵ ┻━┻
 
@TIPS I'm surprised you aren't offended by the fact that an organic molecule was referred to by a simple sum of its elements
as if all those silly bonds wouldn't actually matter
 
@AndrasDeak I'm used to these racist remarks.
You mean you aren't?
BOTS, NO LYING
@QPaysTaxes Oh, so you're finally paying your taxes?
Responsible.
I take offense to your defense
K, I sleepz. Night
Crystallize, for you nerdy pedants
 
9:32 PM
nn
 
Sam
Cya
Hiya
 
9:46 PM
@queen yeah meh not sure, issue is an IDE config really
 
10:20 PM
@PraveenKumar Is this really too broad? I see you answered also.
 
@Tunaki Nopes...
Retracted...
Sent a message too to delete my post...
 
ok, will bury it
@PraveenKumar Ah didn't see it
 
@Tunaki Thanks. :D
 
@C0dekid This looks clear enough, what is unclear for you?
 
@MadaraUchiha Who's Ben?
 
10:34 PM
it's not steve
 
10:52 PM
@Tunaki I've noticed you've started reviewing! I'll update your session record.
 
night
 

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