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Sam
11:04 AM
Hiya
 
Howdy sam!
 
11:17 AM
@theB Now there are 2 very different questions in 1
1. actually start a batch file which afterward start the software -> launching from a bat. 2. from java itself
 
Oh wow
3 people in our corp have managed to get their pcs infected with cerber cryptoransomware
 
PC users in a nutshell
 
@Tunaki I read that edit as start from a batch file normally, and minimize it from within the java application, but I can see the other reading. Also now that I'm thinking about it, too broad would work too...
> Interestingly, Cerber queries the location of the computer and terminates itself if found running in countries from the Commonwealth of Independent States (Azerbaijan, Armenia, Belarus, Georgia, Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Moldova, Russia, Tajikistan, Turkmenistan, Uzbekistan and Ukraine).
 
o_o
 
11:32 AM
@TJ if you could add more examples to your meta post (if you can still find them) - I've edited the "edit summary" on the post you linked for now
 
How wonderful
"Hey this skeezy looking email vaguely resembling something maybe-legit has an attached .zip folder with auto extracting .js files. Better execute those, whats the worst that could happen"
 
oh wow
The blacklist sounded like a good place
 
> "If you're not going to add value to my topic why are you commenting ? just to waste your's and mine ? wtf :s" offensive or non constructive?
 
11:48 AM
@PetterFriberg borderline rude I would say
 
agree ^
 
meh
 
I like to step on one side of the border...
 
;p
I just flag those as rude
 
my feeling is the "wtf" tilts it over the border...
 
11:53 AM
@PetterFriberg I agree (v------- :P)
 
And since Petter remove the comments, you agree with the void.
 
besides, Tunaki is so desensitised by now to crap that "meh" in Tunaki means "kill it with fire" in English:P
2
 
@Tunaki Link? I need some entertainment now
 
You have some context in it
 
Before I have to explain to my people that they either have to pony up 3k euros in bitcoin for a chance to decrypt or take the loss
 
11:55 AM
@AndrasDeak :)
 
I some one goes offensive let me know if flag gets denied
wrong link sorry, its already gone
afk
 
@AshishAhujaツ you must be new in this room:P
 
@AndrasDeak :(
 
12:01 PM
Alright! Who of you guys stole my drink.. It was on my desk a few seconds ago and now it's gone.
Who stole it!?
 
@C0dekid ninjas
 
I know its out of our jurisdiction, but is anyone active on EE, or willing to join? this could really use a 6th spam flag.
 
@EricD Dem ninjas
 
@theB charcoal will handle it. It has already been reported
 
@theB gone
 
12:04 PM
@AshishAhujaツ aah, I didn't know that.
@Magisch Thanks
 
@Yam opt-out
 
Yam
@AshishAhujaツ Opt-out successful.
 
bye everyone
 
Bye
hey
Thanks @smoke
 
@C0dekid smokey is a bot.
 
12:16 PM
@AshishAhujaツ Iknow right
:P
 
oh okay. I thought you thought he was a user as you said thanks to him :D
 
@AshishAhujaツ Haha no :)
 
@Kyll replop
 
@Kyll replop
bye
 
Plop again, and bye Ashish
 
12:24 PM
Hey Kyll
 
LOL
 
accepted?
 
Accepted answer
 
Maybe someone who want to gain reps?
 
diamonded
 
12:26 PM
Bloody sockpuppets!
 
Unimpressed by the sockpuppetry
 
(mm)
 
@theB No... OP'd...
 
(removed)
 
@C0dekid that will look funny in the transcript
@QPaysTaxes they can't, only mods
yup
no, you can't
 
12:31 PM
haha
Scam, only my (removed) message is visible in the transcript
 
:31509581 What did you say?
Sorry I didn't notice it...
I was out... Tell me once again and you delete it.
 
@QPaysTaxes you moved them to the trash (i.e. another room)
 
oh
Ah ok
 
@QPaysTaxes that's possible, flagging as rude/abusive can remove posts
 
@QPaysTaxes I've noticed you've started reviewing! I'll update your session record.
 
12:39 PM
That question is old?
 
@C0dekid indeed
and active 1 year ago
 
@AndrasDeak Someone commented on it haha
 
@C0dekid that's an auto-comment for when you vote/flag something as a duplicate
 
@AndrasDeak SO is full of suprises though :P
 
and queen looks for comments like this to create notifications of possiple duplicates
 
12:43 PM
aha
 
like that __^
 
> possiple
pfft
 
QPaysTaxes passed a audit!
 
hum not sure that was a dupe
1 del vote though
 
12:50 PM
1 message moved to Trash
 
empty trashbin
 
1 message moved to Trash
 
I'm back
 
Welcome back
 
1:04 PM
@Clo alive
 
@AshishAhujaツ I don't want to go on the cart!
 
@Closey You normally are on the cart nowadays :D
@Yam still very very unclear. So just nope
 
Anyone up for Aussie translation bingo?
 
@Yam Nope
 
@QPaysTaxes You've reviewed 40 posts today (of which 2 were audits), thanks! The time between your first and last review today was 29 minutes and 58 seconds, averaging to a review every 44 seconds.
 
1:11 PM
afk
 
That's name calling. Don't do that
Not only is it a useless drama starting point and violating the Be Nice policy, it's utterly useless
Flag, downvote, close, delete, move on
 
T J
Yea I think I'm done for the day (-.-)
 
1:28 PM
back
 
@QPaysTaxes Kinda sorta
 
!!/blame
 
@AshishAhujaツ It's Mogsdad's fault.
 
Clearly.
 
1:34 PM
@QPaysTaxes It's Tim Castelijns's fault.
 
!!/blame Q. Why can't you??
 
@AshishAhujaツ It's TylerH's fault.
 
@QPaysTaxes It's QPaysTaxes's fault.
:)
@QPaysTaxes just another boring song :/
!!/blame Q
 
@AshishAhujaツ It's Petter Friberg's fault.
 
@SmokeDetector you're a really bad bot!
 
1:41 PM
ok ok
 
@QPaysTaxes LoL?
!!/blame
 
@PraveenKumar It's Mogsdad's fault.
 
@QPaysTaxes propose in charcoal.
@QPaysTaxes you are serious! I know it! Propose it in charcoal or smokey will blame you
bye
 
Morning people!
 
Good afternoon
 
1:55 PM
Link only?
 
that's just spam
 
Jon is probably chatting with them now...
 
@Mogsdad ?
 
(Checks quickly to make sure he didn't ping the puppy...)
 
so if he's chatting with us, does that mean we're the spammers?
 
2:05 PM
You deleted the first answer of the user in question... I was hoping you were following up with them.
 
SMOKEY REPORTS STILL ALIVE ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
 
That SQL report from SD had a first post review Worth a modflag?
 
@Mogsdad "following up" in a way I suppose :)
 
Yeah, like that!
A well-deserved 404.
 
Another poor user murdered by our tyran moderators...
 
2:09 PM
I thought we could add links to smokey... I guess not.
 
duh
 
@Tunaki Sounds like we could use a revolution (Happy America Day!)
 
@Tunaki Those evil entities hey... we should rid the world of 'em!
 
Wow
This is like out of a shitty 90s b movie thriller
A key witness against hillary clinton mere weeks before testifying "accidentally" crushed his own throat in what was ruled a "workout accident"
 
ooh... bummer...
 
2:13 PM
(or maybe users shouldn't abuse the system so they have a mod involved in the first place - that'd be ideal)
 
@JonClements Hey, that's something I've actually been wondering: SO has community-driven moderation, up to a certain point where highly trained and capable moderators sit. Reaching that point requires massive community consensus (elections). Could a community such as SO work without this specialized group of people?
 
"highly trained" Buwahahaha!
 
I don't think so
 
+1 @kyll
 
Someone has to have the final say
 
2:14 PM
@Mogsdad shhhh
 
@Magisch Sounds kinda like the "Chilcott" report - it's supposedly going to let Tony Blair be blameless for sending the UK's soldiers to war - but it will allow individual soldier's to be prosecuted for war crimes or something...
 
Or else we'd be arguing about few questions until the end of time
 
@Magisch Would have been simpler just to have Biden accidentally shoot them...
 
@Mogsdad thanks - luv you too man :)
 
@JonClements I didn't disagree with "capable"... but I'm pretty sure there was no 6 month boot camp.
 
2:17 PM
@Mogsdad Well, training occurs during their years as members of the community
 
@Kyll I wonder why you wonder that... don't forget there's a lot more information and tools available to mods...
 
@JonClements Plain ol' curiosity, I guess
 
...and ninja uniforms.
 
And yeah, forgot about the whole privacy things
 
Who'd you like to have access to be able to delete accounts for instance?
 
2:18 PM
Closey.
I'm sure she can handle that.
 
I'm sure a lot of mods would be quite happy if a lot more could be automated - as it stands now - we don't have an AI and it's human/puppy judgement.
 
Mod elections suffer from the same problem with basic democracy as parlamentiary elections
people tend to not care much and vote on gut feeling
Less so here since we're all programmers and programmers are largely sceptics
 
@Magisch I'd be amazed if you could argue you weren't happy with the current SO mod team :)
 
@JonClements I never said that
 
2:21 PM
@Tunaki Yes
 
:31511993
++++++++++
 
trying to say something Mogs?
 
@JonClements Indeed. I'll need to give it a bunch more thoughts.
Mogs iz brok
 
Spilled coffee on keyboard!
 
Speaking from the last 6 months or so that I can remember, mods haven't been unfair to me, my flags and inquiries always get answered reasonably fast, and by and large I can agree with their actions
No system is perfect, of course.
 
2:22 PM
Well another user in the graveyard.
 
@Magisch of course - but an automated system is worse - let's just look at the unfair review you failed ages ago which I lifted because I was able to look at your history, look at the audit and decide it wasn't fair...
 
But its a far cry better from the different teams I've been a part of in the past, like MCF for instance
where we mods had all but free reign
If we didn't target the popular users with monetary leverage, there was nothing stopping us, and short of finding the site owner's email and mail them, there was no appeal process
I don't think the SO system needs much changing
Its a little unfortunate that mod elections work the way they do, but I can't come up with a better system and we have a relative abundance of qualified people ready to fill the spot. I don't think we run the risk of serious mod abuse, either, since a lot of mod actions are public and constantly scrutinized.
 
@Mogsdad Already requested above though
 
@JonClements You know I'm sort of sour on the concepts of automated audits in general
 
2:27 PM
@Kyll For the record... I'm sure it was because of my request!
Was too busy finding a "new" keyboard.
 
@Magisch it's a bit sad that some of 'em end up bad and tripping up genuine reviewers - but if you had access to the queues I do and looking at audit failures of people approving stuff in triage/first posts that's blatant spam... you'd probably think different
 
@JonClements I mean sour as in that I know that they're necessary, but that I'm also salty every time I fail one, because I know im not a robo, and being treated like one is kinda shitty.
 
I've said a couple of times - if anyone fails a bad audit - either let me know or post on meta - we'll sort it - no worries :)
in fact - first thing I'm doing in the morning with my cuppa now is going through the failed audit queues and issuing review bans where the system hasn't already for users that are allowing through blatant spam
Yup - and they click "Looks OK"
so if it's a first failed review - the system doesn't always auto-suspend their review access - I'm going through and imposing a manual one
@QPaysTaxes no bloomin' idea... but I'm cracking down on it - it just creates more work for everyone else further down the line...
 
2:42 PM
totally came back here just to star that^
 
@queen closed and deleted hunny
 
Anyone got the link to Tim's lost keys post?
 
@Kyll I had but I lost it.
 
@QPaysTaxes Nice, thanks!
 
> Anyone please update me a complete code for online Air ticket booking using...
Waaaaaay toooooooooo broooooooooooooad
 
2:52 PM
jQuery.AirTicket.Booking.perform()
 
@JonClements why and how
Why burn time reviewing when you're obviously not reviewing
 
the badges Magisch
 
Nobody is impressed by a gold badge that reads, for these people "I spent 200 hours pointlessly clicking buttons and contributed nothing"
And if someone wants to cheat badges then the best way to do that is to do proper reviews since roboing will just get you banned over and over
 
I love it when sockpuppets out themselves.
 
Im actually very confident in this site's ability to prevail
Some of the greatest minds of the planet are gathered here. People whose profession it is to be nitpicky and thorough with things. These few students and kiddos with their sockpuppets and trolling have no idea what they're up against
 
3:00 PM
o/
 
@QPaysTaxes I'm not going to bring it into here.
and bye q o/
 
3:11 PM
Welcome Madara Uchiha, you have been added as Bot owner, standby executing your command
 
@queen What? Wow! What? @MadaraUchiha! :P
 
Yeah moderatore becomes directly Bot owner, so they can kill it if they like
 
@PetterFriberg gracefully kill it
We can kill it anytime with or without the bot's consent :P
 
exactly wanted to add that but Ferry ping'ed me in other room : )
please don't suspend account, just kill her with grace
 
Thankfully most bot developers acknowledge moderators as similar to bot owners - it's handy when no one else is around (like when Closey went mental spamming error messages here the other day) - and we're able to issue a die/stop/leave command - our only other option would be to suspend the chat account until an owner was present
 
3:20 PM
Whats this about Smokey/Closey deleting accounts?
 
@TylerH What?
 
1 hour ago, by Tunaki
Closey.
 
@AndyK Err 1. that's borderline discriminating based on sex, 2. not showing any effort is not a close reason
 
@TylerH It was a jovial remark - you need to read the context :)
 
@Kyll wait ... you mean when a guy do that, his question will be deleted without any remorse and when a woman does that, I'm discriminating ...?
 
3:24 PM
@JonClements I tried but there was a lot of it
 
@AndyK No, but the good ol' "tis a woman and she puts her picture so she gets better treatment" lived its life. Also we're stepping into a snake pit right now.
 
and @Kyll, I did not say anything... I just said the OP put her a picture and she got upvotes. Yet there is nothing remarkable with her question ...
sometime you need to stand up
what is fair and what is unfair. This is the question
 
Let's just forget about that Q and move on fellas...
 
that is an interesting one here
most mens will got smash for less and here, OP is asking a question and she can be let go ... just like that...
 
Agaaaaaain: Snake pit
Not going in there
 
3:30 PM
I'm teaching my GF's daughter that no work = no results
 
> GF's daughter
:D
 
@AndyK Okay, you've given your point. We get it.
 
I'll ask that on meta
 
Wait, you're going to ask about SO gender equality on Meta based on a couple upvotes?
 
Brace yourselves. Downvotes are coming
 
3:33 PM
ok she is put on hold
thanks folks ;)
 
Well yeah, it's off-topic
 
it is
 
Forgetting about this OP nonsense, please do note that lack of effort is not a close reason but a downvote one
 
I've downvoted the question @kyll
 
^attracting answers, so needs to be closed
 
3:36 PM
@cybermonkey Poet'ed
 
Should I let a new user know that once they get 20 rep, they might be able to get help with opinion based issues in the relevant chats?
 
after this interesting chit-chat, it is time to go. See you everyone, it was my pleasure as always
 
o/
 
@Mogsdad I've noticed you've started reviewing! I'll update your session record.
 
Incredibly enough, we all live a happier life when there's no drama around...
 
3:44 PM
@QPaysTaxes There's plenty on meta today if that's your thing. Heck I think Jon Skeet just quoted princess bride.
 
@theB Omg yes you're right
 
oh thank goodness I missed that
 
hum maybe love
 
which page of the help center does it say not to answer duplicates?
 
3:53 PM
@Tunaki ta
 
@cybermonkey Answer well-asked questions, from help/how-to-answer. (That's [answer] in a comment, btw.)
 
can someone back me up on this? the user seems to disagree that answering duplicates is discouraged. note that there was a big banner saying 'Exact duplicate of ....' before they answered and before the question was closed.
 
@cybermonkey Don't you think your comment is enough I would just move on.
 
@cybermonkey No need, really. You've covered it - and the help does suggest "avoiding frustration..."
 
3:59 PM
^
 
@cybermonkey Meh, move on
 

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