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12:06 AM
@Daedalus way worse attempts at an answer get through below the radar...I think you should not flag it
crap answers should be downvoted, not flagged
 
@AndrasDeak Noted, thanks for that; have yet to flag it, and will not proceed in doing so.
 
OK, I only saw the version that Jarrod edited; looks much less worse than the original
I have many declined NAA flags saying "flags should not be used to indicate technical inaccuracies" or something
if something looks a bit like an answer, then NAA is a gamble
 
12:32 AM
@Daedalus We don't moderate Meta =)
Also really really really should be sleeping right now, night!
 
alright
 
see ya @Kyll
 
12:52 AM
good old "too localized", eh?
 
@πάνταῥεῖ Deleted
 
1:31 AM
i found a spam post that somehow survived for an hour
 
1:43 AM
> peerreviewerssuck
 
2:10 AM
Morning!
 
2:45 AM
@πάνταῥεῖ if you're not sure whether the q should be closed or not, do not add the [cv-pls] tag on it. You can just ask normally
 
@AshishAhujaツ I am meanwhile. That question isn't solvable in it's current form.
 
Ah. I thought you were asking a question whether the q should be closed or not
 
3:23 AM
hmm, smokey didn't delete the report here...
 
@Quill that was because I think it didn't get an f over here.
 
ah, I thought it propagated to all the broadcast locations
 
f's don't propagate. They probably should.
 
4:14 AM
Could we please kick this clown?
 
 
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5:15 AM
@πάνταῥεῖ Really? I'm not sure what you mean by "kick" but I believe you were told before not to ask for downvotes. Also, it is not helpful to this room when users discover that they're being referred to as "clowns". Please state your concern in a more neutral manner.
 
5:36 AM
998 helpful flags... would be cool to get a badge for 1k :-)
 
Plop again!
@TylerH I agree, only because then I would have 3 extra gold badges :)
 
@AshishAhujaツ only earnable once :-P
@Kyll Look, a movie just for you! nerdist.com/…
 
@TylerH :(
 
 
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6:51 AM
Anyone can help me to resolve the bug:
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/38496068/recyclerview-creat-app-crash-on-scrolling-horizontly
 
@NitishSrivastava I doubt it. Not without any code, at least.
 
ohh
@Ryan Bemrose, Actually issue came,when i updated the recyclerview library from 'com.android.support:recyclerview-v7:22.2.0' to 'com.android.support:recyclerview-v7:23.2.0'.
 
7:13 AM
@NitishSrivastava Bringing attention to your question in this room is more likely to get it closed than solved.
 
Good morning folks \o
 
Plop!
 
Morning o/
 
Backplop!
 
@TylerH <3
 
7:26 AM
Hiya o/
 
killer
 
@Tunaki - No
<can see image :P>
 
7:36 AM
Ok thanks @TheLostMind :)
 
8:02 AM
I feel like if I add my CV to it I agree to saying that the answer is no, but I have no clue really
 
@TimCastelijns What? o.o
 
Heat stroke
 
@Seth the guy had a custom reason saying "this is off topic bla bla, anyway the answer is no"
 
@TimCastelijns Ahh :D
I was thinking of CV as in curriculum vitae >.<
 
@JarrodRoberson: I see you are a one-man moderator-ability-candy-dispenser again.
Couldn't you have picked an actual quality answer this time?
 
8:20 AM
@MartijnPieters I assume there is not something we, as RO team, can do, right? Except for adding yet another rule that would be a copy of standing SE policy?
 
@rene there is nothing the ROs can do here, no. Clearly Jarrod has taken someone's voicing their happiness at reaching 2k in this room as a signal, but I don't see how room rules could limit his decision.
For all we know Jarrod will just deny the room interaction was the reason.
 
OK, I do know you guys watching this behavior but bounties is a call from the user. How they make up their mind is not something I can and (pesonally) want to control.
This point of view is my own, btw. It might not be shared by all RO's or how the regulars in this room would like to see it.
That is also because we are, for good reasons, held to higher standards.
 
I agree
 
I'm confused. This is normal.
 
@TimCastelijns Pst Did I miss something? What's going on / what happened?
 
8:30 AM
@RyanBemrose yes, pre-drama we always first create confusion, I'm the master in that
This is all part of our my big master plan ....
 
@rene I look forward to the Cliff's notes, then.
 
Hiya again!
 
Ola!
 
Hiya
 
8:31 AM
@Seth I don't know the context of the discussion (but I can guess), but I agree with the point of view rene has here. We are socvr, not 'control people's bounty behavior'
 
@TimCastelijns Just did some archive digging :) Think I got it now. And ye, I fully agree, moderating users is what mods do.
We moderate the stuff users post.
@Tunaki Iffy. Cannot check the link at the moment :/
 
How come we can't flag comments as spam
 
Probably spam though.
 
@Tunaki it is a blog ... not sure if from the OP
 
8:34 AM
@Tunaki would not flag that as spam, looks like an honest attempt to answer
 
No ads, so fat, and mentions all kind of products, not a single one
 
@Tunaki looks ok to me
 
ok I was misguided by the look of the URL...
 
@Tunaki Same. Sounded alot like the usual spam-websites.
 
:OO 3/4 stupid answers deleted stackoverflow.com/questions/38498510/… (10k to view) great success!!
I feel great now. Got enough energy to work for 3 minutes before going back to SO
 
8:41 AM
:D
 
aka; typo...........
 
@Tunaki >.< I wanted to explain it a bit more
 
I'm more concerned by the answer there...
 
@Tunaki Why?
Ah, FGITW?
 
because the guy has 80k rep
 
8:51 AM
Shh, no talking about users or rene will get even more pixelated.
 
don't worry, tuna is rene's boss
 
Uh. I am missing anything in this review? Felt like the edits added enough code and context for this question to be reopened. Could anyone else check?
Or, well:
 
OK, re-open voted
 
agree, voted
 
Yam
8:59 AM
@Kyll Now watching question 38463455, you will be notified when this post is edited.
 
siiiiiigh
@Sam Saaaaam the bot is stoopid
FR: Only notify me of future edits
 
@Kyll No, he is very nice o.o He even double-pinged you :D
 
The bot only does what it was programmed to do... :)
 
Bug: Double-pings, wat
Sam will be like "OK, if I only want to notify of edits that occurred after the post was manually added to the watch list, I only have to rewrite 80% of the code base and wipe the DB"
 
haha
 
9:04 AM
@Kyll That must be some funny code :D
 
Well
I'm pretty sure manually added posts are treated the very same way as automatically watched posts
 
I think he copied the code between those 2 execution paths ...
 
Sam does strike me as a person who would copy paste code
 
@TimCastelijns Dafuq. This is SO, this is something like a "Click&Collect"-Shop for code O_ô
 
Sam
@Kyll I guess that would be helpful :p
@TimCastelijns ...
 
9:18 AM
sorry @sam ...
 
Yeah I'm sorry too
 
It is all because of me
 
@Sam - I said nothing.. Yet i am sorry.. really sorry
 
Sam
You are forgiven my children.
 
Not sure if Sam's actually mad or just joking around like always
 
9:20 AM
Breaking: Mod suspends user for copying code ...
 
@Sam blessed be thy soul O merciful lord
 
Nvm, he's joking.
 
I said nothing, yet I'm not sorry
 
Sam
@Kyll Yes, they are.
I just simply expose an alternative route for them to be added to the watch list.
(And no, it wasn't a copy-paste job.)
 
@Sam gonna have to see some proof
 
9:26 AM
@TimCastelijns Read from there github.com/SO-Close-Vote-Reviewers/GraveRobber :p
 
Sam
@TimCastelijns Fine.
 
Those copyright notices look suspiciously alike.. are you sure you did not copy paste them?
 
Ha so it is a bug. "you will be notified when this post is edited" -> but the edit was already made
 
Sam
@TimCastelijns touché
@Tunaki Part of the process of adding new questions to the list (from the graveyard) is to first check if they can be immediately reported. Manually watched Qs weren't exempt from that.
 
@TimCastelijns I might patent copyright notices and then charge anyone who uses them ....
 
9:36 AM
Commented
 
9:48 AM
@Yam stats
 
Yam
I'm currently watching 66 posts.
 
English Question: What could be one word for "with close votes"?
 
Sam
You could shorten it down by saying "with CVs", but there isn't an actual word to describe a post with CVs in one word, AFAIK.
 
garbage
 
10:03 AM
@TimCastelijns if that qualifies then crap is shorter ...
 
@rene Same goes for junk :o
 
I just came across a comment that says "I copy and pasted the code but it didn't compile".. not sure if I should laugh or cry
 
both are valid emotions
 
will try both, thanks
 
10:10 AM
@rene My god that guy looks and dances creepy
 
@TimCastelijns yes, Alex likes to show his feminine side
 
Wants to publish an ebook & asks if he needs xcode for that...
 
Let me do the weekly nudge for users posting cv-pls while < 1K @Seth go answer some questions as well so you get to 3K. Only slacking in this room won't get you there ;)
 
10:18 AM
@rene Oh, I am actually answering a few questions every now & then.
The problem is that I don't often find questions interesting enough to spend time on them.
If someone asks "How do I do X" & I find the answer perfectly well explained within one google search, I won't bother pointing that out >_>
 
Yes, I saw ... that rep line needs to go more steep ... ;) I'm only trying to help ...
 
@rene I know c:
 
@DavidG I don't care about dupe suggestions, to get more rep I must answer all questionsTim Castelijns 22 hours ago
@Seth
 
@SmokeDetector k
 
@TimCastelijns Dammit, I still need to go through your answers and downvote them all...
@Seth Go suggest lots of edits, free rep (for a while at least)
 
Sam
10:21 AM
@kayess Yeah, just got dumped with a load of new badge notifs :p
 
Now look at what you've done @rene -_-
Harmless flower, my ass.
 
@Sam huh ?
 
Damn they try to lure is to documentation with shiny badges
 
@TimCastelijns Chance to get a shiny badge: 1/50 o.o
 
Sam
@kayess I've got 10 new badges.
 
10:22 AM
That'd be funny af :>
 
@Sam how ?
 
Sam
Docs
 
Did what with Docs? To earn that many badges
 
Sam
I was in the first batch of people to be inv'd to the private beta, so I helped out a bit :)
 
Badge for first example upvote, badge for first review, badge for first proposed change.... etc.
 
10:23 AM
Ah right:)
heya David \o
 
Sam
> You've earned the "Documentation Beta" badge (Contributed 3+ substantive pieces of documentation during the private beta).
6 of those ^
 
wow some of these documentation pieces are very low quality
 
10:35 AM
 
Aw god the Java examples are shitty
 
Same for android
 
Just copy-paste Javadoc, there you go....
enjoy the badges...
 
Looks like a bunch of people trying to farm some upvotes with their shit posts
 
I don't think I will ever participate to this.
 
10:37 AM
^this
 
that ----^
 
I still don't understand the whole point of the doc section
Why not just go to the official doc resource?
 
Because most docs suck
And not all things are documented
 
copy-paste them here, you have free points...
 
10:41 AM
@DavidG document all teh thingz
 
Developers suck at documentation so giving rep for it might actually be a good thing
 
So shouldn't we encourage official doc places to get better?
 
@FrankerZ They said that a central place to go for documentation would be better in the long term
But tbh... :/ I don't really see the point of doing that.
 
Right now documentation is a half assed collection of popular answers in a tag. Just copy paste them from main site to documentation
 
Will get better eventually I think hope
 
10:44 AM
Not even sure of that. I saw a Java topic where I know I have a canonical answer for it, isn't linked there...
won't add it, spam you know
 
It would be better if it didn't award badges I think
 
Sam
@Tunaki You question the great T-man?
 
@TimCastelijns Ye.... especially easy badges -.-
 
@Sam Who is the great T-man? :D
 
Sam
:o
It's Tim.
 
10:46 AM
Tunaki is longer than Tim.
 
Tim is taller than Tunaki.
 
I'm not going to suggest which one is wider.
 
Sam
Sam is more metallic than all of you.
 
I feel like this is going to turn into a riddle. "A is taller than B. B is wider than C. Which has blond hair?"
 
Closey of course!
 
Sam
10:54 AM
120 rep from docs today...
What is this place.
 
@Sam Hmmm... Maybe I should participate after all....
 
Documentation rewards rep on main site?...
 
Sam
Yeah
 
I don't know what to think of that
That means the meaning of reputation will change
You no longer have to be able to give good answers, you just have to be a good google/copy-paster
 
That actually sucks.
That legitimately blows.
 
11:04 AM
Ideally it wouldn't matter assuming documentation is as vigorously moderated as main. Atm it isn't ...
 
@rene Right now it's a shit stain if you compare it to main. Seriously, what the hell.
Badges? No problem, fine, have as many doc badges as you want.
Rep on the other hand... Documentation is simply a collection of mostly well-known processes & mechanics, that can be found on google with ease (in most cases).
To be able to gather alot of rep on main.. takes a tad more effort.
 
But if you copy them to SO, they become special.
 
Don't like it, don't agree with it. Really not cool :/
@Louis Special needs?
>_<
I kinda want to know what the rest of SO thinks about that. Anyone writing a meta question yet?
 
I get the general idea. I think some canonicals would look better as documentation than as Q&A. And some software would definitely benefit from better documentation. (Yes, I'm looking at you .) But it seems documentation right now is just duplicating content.
 
Look at this I don't think I have ever seen a more meaningless piece of crap. And he gets 30 rep for it
 
Sam
11:09 AM
@Louis Which was one of the biggest concerns about this project.
 
11:20 AM
@Sam Plop :D
 
Sam
Hey :D
 
@rene That reminds me!
 
Sam
Huh, well I just hit the rep cap.
Last time I did that was 2 years ago.
 
gratz
 
Sam
thx
 
11:23 AM
@Sam - I thought that you had stopped contributing because of the licence thingy
 
Sam
@TheLostMind I have. This rep is from docs.
 
Ah I see.. nice
 
@FOX9000 Rejected
 
@Kyll - Wrong room :)
 
=p
 
11:25 AM
@TheLostMind What did he write/try? ô.ô
 
@Seth - Nothin
 
Does "force of proposal" mean anything in English?
I'm trying to mean "a person or group that can provide useful and valuable inputs on a specific subject"
 
He wrote "Seth, I hate you and will always hate you for all my life".
 
@Kyll expert(s)
 
Not sure why but who knows what Spearrels mean
 
11:27 AM
@Tunaki Force de proposition
 
Ah
 
Sam
@Kyll Specialist(s)?
You're probably looking for Jon Skeet.
 
Specialist / expert is more of a permanent state, this would be in the context of a specific project. "This group of experts can become a [...] for this project and help us reach our objectives"
 
@Kyll take initiative?
 
@Tunaki Eh, maybe
 
11:30 AM
to be proactive?
 
Oh, that's nice
 
Thanks, it'll be 3 chocolatines (:p)
 
I only deal in pains au chocolat.
 
adn afk
yep, you'll need to come get them in the south :p
 
Are you guys ready to see a question on meta break the downvote record?
o.o
 
11:33 AM
Please keep the drama in the Ministry.
That's a good place for drama =p
 
Yeah, will do :P
Not posting the question after all.
It was more like a rant.
 
Morning
 
Sam
wth
 
@NathanOliver o/
 
Sam
Doc rep ignores the rep cap?
@NathanOliver Hiya
 
11:35 AM
Plop Nathan
 
@Sam ... NICE.
And here I am, speaking of devaluing reputation, a coming inflation of rep...
while thinking that it's capped.
Without a cap that's ... even more f...ed up.
 
wait
 
I'm not doing anything o.o
 
maybe I can reach 10k that way, without having to whore my way up with FGITW in
 
throws @Kyll into the rep-whore-hell
:D
 
11:38 AM
Getting rep through docs is worse than FGITW kyll
 
@TimCastelijns Voting to close you for being primarily opinion based.
 
Sam
lol
 
Sadly I have to agree... lol.
 
There's barely any doc on and some topics are not covered in the official docs
 
Sam
Anyone writing a meta on the lack of a rep cap on docs?
 
11:49 AM
How the heck do I point out an inaccuracy?
 
Sam
Suggest an edit?
 
@NathanOliver Hu? Point there & say "inaccurate" ô.ô
@Sam Writing a general one, did you start writing/post it already?
 
Sam
@Seth Nope
 
@Sam Shall I include it?
 
@Seth In documents?
 
Sam
11:51 AM
@Seth Please, might want to link in this as proof.
 
@NathanOliver That was a joke :<
 
@Sam Thx
 
Sam
Looks like I'm going to hit 5k at this rate.
 

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