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12:01 AM
@gunr2171 I'm all yours.
 
ok, head to the testing room please
 
someone's getting spanked
have fun, gents
 
50 shades of testing
 
Wondering why we don't put Software Recommendations into the Toos rec close reason explanation?
 
@KevinGuan before it was in beta, that might have been the leading argument
now, maybe?
 
12:13 AM
@gunr2171 I think so, searching...
Undo's answer makes sense.
 
I can understand points 1 and 3 from undo's answer
so yeah, I guess that still stands
 
Huh, let's edit the point 2 out?
 
no, it's historical
 
Fine.
 
leave a comment saying "it out of beta, #2 could be amended"
(it's out of beta, we're releasing on time)
 
12:19 AM
I'm waiting for your comment...
 
In regards to point #2, the site has graduated. The post could be amended to reflect that, however I still think that the overall feeling stands. — gunr2171 23 secs ago
 
That's okay.
 
oh, it was to the answer
 
it's gone already?
 
moded
 
12:22 AM
that was fast
 
yeah, that was faster than I could view it
 
@JarrodRoberson I feel like the cv-pls script should also include like the first tag into the chat message, especially when the reason is "duplicate" so everyone with a hammer on that tag sees it right away :P
 
the username tells it all.
 
Rob
@Rizier123 I was just thinking that, too
 
@Rizier123 thirded
 
12:23 AM
Btw, I just threw 20 votes at blinking.
 
I don't know enough in JS to update the script myself, but I'm working on it :)
 
@Rizier123 I suggested that, something like [cv-pls] .
 
I was hoping for a gold in corners and blinking
 
Why would we need different colors?
 
12:25 AM
:)
anyway, it's 2 AM here
cya guys o/
 
Rob
See ya
 
night @Tuna
 
nite Tuna
 
Cya Tuna.
@Rizier123 That's pretty, isn't it?
 
@KevinGuan Create an issue on GitHub and see what new GitHub reactions you get to it :P
^^ That answer is so wrong. He should have wrote "-6" instead of "+1"
 
12:31 AM
I wonder how much longer wingding will be spamming
 
Opening SO after 10 days and first thing I do is answering a haskell question.
 
@Rizier123 Oh, let me try =p.
 
user177800
this is why johnny can't code - "it works it just does not do anything" - stackoverflow.com/questions/37472956/…
 
Do you guys write a "little documentation or notes" for yourself when you learn a new language? On the one side I did it in the past, since you learn it again if you write it down in your own style and only what you need to know. On the other side I feel dumb like writing down something which you can find in dozens online references.
@JarrodRoberson I love that dupe :P
 
user177800
@Rizier123 this is why blogs exist, to share your notes, and crowd source corrections to them
 
12:41 AM
I mean more like notes for yourself and things which you learned, that you write that down in your own style as "little documentation". But I feel like people will say I'm dumb writing down something which you can already find on the internet.
@JarrodRoberson As an example right now for JS I wrote stuff down like: " - Avoid unexpected hoisting!" or " - NaN !== NaN", but I don't know if others do the same or think I'm dumb writing down something which is already written down in some online reference. So I don't know if I should do it, or just look it up everytime I need it. Or maybe just call it different than "documentation".
 
1:01 AM
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Q: Unmanageable [content-management-system]

LaurelI think this tag falls into the same category as api: it's just too nondescript to be useful. cms is usually used when: Asking us to recommend a CMS (off-topic) A specific CMS tag is lonely (unneccessary) When another tag should be made to describe an obscure CMS These need new tags. I alrea...

 
Rob
@TylerH It's possible to accrue sick leave there? Here sick leave 'resets' each year, it doesn't roll over
 
2:00 AM
Morning
 
2:33 AM
^^ Link to original q in comments
 
Rob
@AshishAhujaツ The answer's joke example char ******lol gives me nightmares
Because I know someone... somewhere.. has a pointer you need to dereference 6 times
 
Ha. I know that's scary. But sometimes you need it.
bye
 
3:07 AM
I'm getting timeouts trying to vote in the close queue
 
unclear, at least
 
Does this error happen when the review question list is finished?
 
Rob
@Undo In regards to this comment I was under the impression that the recent onslaught of flags was the result of a few select people abusing the fact that non-English flags are immediately validated - a targeted attack on a few rooms in particular in order have them frozen/deleted. Is this not the case?
I'm more concerned about people exploiting the fact that moderators can't understand the comment, so they automatically approve it, rather than some rooms getting out of hand themselves (easily fixed)
 
@Rob Not in this case
Some people may have been overzealous, but this wasn't an attack as far as I can see
 
Rob
3:17 AM
Fair enough; looks like merging the SO chat with SE in general should alleviate the issue almost entirely then
 
That's dev work, though
... and thus unlikely to happen
 
I think title of this question should be edited... but I am not PHP expert... turorial bookmarker cakephp3
 
@KhalidHussain Yeah, that and some other things need fixing.
 
Rob
@AlexanderO'Mara Like its status of open
It's not even a question, just an error dump. In SQL. Though it's not tagged SQL
 
@Rob that is why I am confused ...
 
Rob
3:53 AM
Why is it blacklisted?
This is the only question with that URL: metasmoke.erwaysoftware.com/…
@SmokeDetector f
 
This seems like a valid answer to me: stackoverflow.com/questions/35337508/…
It was tagged by someone as not answering the question
 
Rob
Yes, it is an answer
 
@Rob: thx
 
Rob
Doesn't belong anywhere.. that's a terrible question
 
4:13 AM
@Rob yes.... may be that guy don't know Layer 3 device can connect multiple networks.
 
@gariepy what a name...."surpriseStudent"
 
@KhalidHussain: I know...I kind of hate to vote to delete it before J. Young gets to see it
 
Are there any rules about plagiarizing code as the answerer was suggesting? I wasn't sure if I needed to flag for moderator attention...
 
Rob
4:35 AM
Which answerer?
@gariepy You mean this ?
 
@Rob: yes, sorry for ambiguity.
 
Rob
@gariepy Nope, doesn't look like plagiarism. And even if it were, we'd need proof of it to act on it. If we can't give moderators proof, there's no reason to flag
 
4:50 AM
@Rob it depends on the employer
 
@Rob: ok, fair enough. Thanks!
Have a good night all
 
Night @gariepy
 
Rob
@TylerH Doesn't matter, that's not the responsibility of SO
It's not up to us to decide if it's plagiarised from a source we don't have access to
Night gariepy
 
5:13 AM
bye
 
user177800
5:39 AM
can I beat the hornets nest or what? :-) awesomescreenshot.com/image/1281775/…
 
T J
7:05 AM
@Tushar \o
 
\o
 
7:22 AM
Morning...
 
Morning
 
@TJ lots of cv-pls request you scare me away ; )
 
T J
Sorry for some reason I'm being bombarded with crap questions maybe I should take a break
@PetterFriberg mornings and have a nice day
 
Yeah we where trying to auto-limit to around 5 to not have to many in requests, find the worst ones... otherwise we go out of close votes and all the requests just hangs around
@Gothdo, you ninjad my long edit : (
it has spelling mistakes in title and body, tag in title ecc... now you need to do it all ; )
 
7:38 AM
Is it OK now?
 
@TJ: meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/323825/… doe the answer there answer your question?
 
If a post reported by SD contains offensive language, but generally is a valid question/answer, we should edit it and use sd f, right?
 
T J
@Cerbrus yea i left it open since tunaki chimed in with a bug, I think animuson's comment closed the deal
 
Ah, yea.
 
8:04 AM
@Gothdo sorry yeah right
 
8:20 AM
Plop!
 
@Yam die
 
Yam
@PraveenKumar You need to be a room owner, moderator, or Sam to kill me.
 
"or Sam to kill me." -> he he
2
 
8:39 AM
Plop @TheLostMind!
 
Plop
 
sd f - for me seems like an answer
 
T J
You people made me google what does plop mean in chat and it only returns results for "flop". what the plop
 
that hold without the link
 
Morning
 
8:45 AM
Morning
 
Morning
 
T J
plop
 
8:59 AM
@rene for rule #3, shouldn't it be Members are not obliged to close vote any post you bring up instead of Members are not expected to close vote any post you bring up'? In its current state it sounds like cv-pls requests shouldn't be acted upon by anyone, which is incorrect.
 
Hiya @NobodyNada
Hiya @KhalidHussain
 
@AshishAhujaツ Hiya
 
T J
@cybermonkey your island is part of UK?
 
Plop @AshishAhujaツ \o.
@TJ nope
 
T J
@cybermonkey what is it then? (looks interesting)
 
Plop @cybermonkey
 
@TJ crown dependency. we have our own government but we're too small to defend ourselves, so the U.K is responsible for our defence. We're British but are not part of the U.K. However the U.K does represent us internationally.
 
T J
Ok thanks for the info. Beautiful place.
 
@TJ that it is :-). It's generally like the mediterranean but colder and far more rain..
we're becoming more and more distant from the U.K though, and might separate completely in the next few years or so (2019).
 
T J
@cybermonkey That's good news. Then I can attack and conquer. Always wanted my own island muahaha (evil laugh)
 
9:09 AM
@TJ Isn't it divide and conquer ?? :-/
 
T J
@AshishAhujaツ well this is a special alogorithm designed by me .~.
I think I scared him away with my evil laugh .___.
 
You designed a special algo... And scared him away.... That's great clap clap
 
@TJ nah, I'm busy casting cvs on HW.se
how many reopen votes are required to reopen a question?
 
5 I think
 
@AshishAhujaツ even on beta sites?
 
9:13 AM
I don't know
maybe yes
 
I know on beta sites that the threshold for privileges is much lower, but this question over on HW.se has three reopen votes but I thought that the threshold for cv/rv was lower than of a graduated SE site.
 
@cybermonkey You sure it should be reopened? I'll then as ArtofCode to do it
 
@AshishAhujaツ yeah, @ArtOfCode would've been notified of the comment I wrote there anyhow (and of this message since I pinged them :P). The question was edited by the OP and I believe that it's no longer too broad. Additionally it has three reopen votes (mine being one of them), so others agree with me.
 
@cybermonkey hmmm, if you say so.
 
9:19 AM
@cybermonkey He's active in CharCoal right now. Should I ask him?
 
@AshishAhujaツ I pinged him here, he would've had a notification. No need to try and force the decision.
 
Oh okay. I didn't see you pinged him.
 
I'm not too fussed over the reopening of a single question anyhow.
 
Plop @AndrasDeak!
 
plop yourself
 
9:22 AM
Plop @Ashish!
 
I've cast 1,564 flags only 71 of them have been declined (5.4%). Is that good, and where does that sit with other users?
 
Morning
 
Hiya @PhMgBr!
Morning Ferry!
 
@AshishAhujaツ \o
 
9:26 AM
@AshishAhujaツ \o
 
@cybermonkey It doesn't seem too bad. I have 588 post flags, 8 declined, 20 disputed, 88 aged away.
 
@cybermonkey On SO, this is pretty awesome.
The rate of decline gets more important on the other sites though.
Since you don't get as many weirdos there, flagging is much easier in smaller SE's.
 
I have cast 792 **post flags**, 577 helpful(72.85%), 18 declined(2.27%), 52 disputed(6.57%), 145 aged away(18.31%).
I also have cast 30 **comment flags**, 28 helpful(93.33%), 2 declined(6.67%).
Outside that, I have cast 461 **spam flags**, 460 helpful(99.78%), 1 declined(0.22%).
And I have cast 175 **offensive flags**, 169 helpful(96.57%), 2 declined(1.14%), 4 disputed(2.29%)
 
@Cerbrus (y)
 
9:41 AM
Don't delete defaced questions. revert the edit.
tool request that basically invites spam
 
@Cerbrus You sure?? The website has never been used to spam before, and the the question is also asking about that vpn thingy
 
I also think its spam
The answerer didn't even research that openvpn is always free
 
The answerer registered today
 
I would not be that sure whether it's spam or not. Better go with NAA
 
9:47 AM
It is an answer
It's just crap
 
@TIPS It seems you are a chemist... May be you are a programmer too .... :)
 
@PraveenKumar skip :P
 
@Cerbrus :P
@Cerbrus Looks like we need to edit the bad word repo.
 
10:09 AM
@TechTreeDev yes?
 
@KhalidHussain Not a programmer. Just interested in moderation.
 
@AndrasDeak Forgot the tag
 
@TechTreeDev Also include a reason
 
@TechTreeDev ^ that
 
10:13 AM
As it does not belong to SO, should I answer it or vote to close? firewall rule i can access in another computer (m0n0wall, pfsense, etc..)
 
if it does not belong, never answer
 
vote to migrate if it's an option and if the question doesn't suck
if it sucks, vote to close as crap
and consider helping OP in a comment if you feel very altruistic
 
Sam
Where are the other ROs?
It's like it's the weekend.
Slackers.
 
T J
Just learned a new word
 
Sam
10:16 AM
Weekend?
 
Slackers?
 
like?
 
T J
altruistic .~.
 
Hiya @Braiam
 
there's even a badge named after it;)
 
10:18 AM
:))
 
In this chat room, I am scare of only one user.... I am not going to mention the name.... are there anyone else like me? :P
 
#sayMyName
 
@KhalidHussain You can only be scared of rene :P
 
10:24 AM
@AshishAhujaツ if you have to ask, it's not you
 
@AshishAhujaツ no, I try not to post any cv-pls when he/she is present here. :P
 
Yvette?
 
:)
@AshishAhujaツ I told that I am not going to mention the name. :P
 
Do not be scared. She just told you not to post too many cv-pls which you were doing.
 
VOLDEMORT
 
10:27 AM
Hiya @MacroMan
What does that mean?
 
hey @AshishAhujaツ o/
"I am not going to mention the name" = Voldemort
""He-Who-Must-Not-Be-Named""
 
It's really not funny when you have to explain :(
 
T J
lol
 
10:29 AM
lol
 
@KhalidHussain also note the new rules, see the pinned message there -->
it concerns cv-pls requests too
 
Hiya mr lolwrecker András
 
@AndrasDeak quick. edit it to lol
 
mexican lol-wave?
lol
 
sup
we don't have no fun here, remember?:P
 
10:30 AM
s/sup/lol/g
 
You break the train..........
 
Noooooooooo :(
 
Now you get punishment...........
 
and now that I've rekd, I can leave
see you guys later
 
cya \o
 
10:31 AM
*drops mic*
 
lol
 
:O
;(
 
@AndrasDeak You can't leave like that. Meet me in the backroom for the punishment
 
oh dear... I don't like where this is going...
 
@MacroMan When I was a kid I was wondering how do english speakers means to drop mike :x
 
10:32 AM
@MacroMan me neither, I'm leaving through the front door
where there's a guard
and security cameras
 
@kayess just in case English wasn't confusing enough: imgur.com/gallery/3QJ3Yyb
2
 
@MacroMan I have had a sever brain bleeding after reading that :D
 
Yes I know I was posting too many cv-pls and I was corrected. I also read the new rules..... My intention isn't to criticize, just tried to make fun..... and only @MacroMan helped to do it. :)
 
@MacroMan rofl
 
Hiya @ArtOfCode
 
10:46 AM
@cybermonkey didn't actually get notified of your comment... I'm not gonna VtR that, because I think the first question he's asking is still off-topic
 
@AshishAhujaツ not my fault! let's find out who's fault it is....
!!/blame
 
@MacroMan It's Ferrybig's fault.
 
Ferrybig??
!!/surprised
 
I really need to make a bot that says "you liar" when smokey tells its my mistake
 
Is everyone not able to view SO and getting the message "We are Offline"?
 
Yep
 
Rob
Yes
 
T J
I'm able to access site just fine
 
Rob
11:24 AM
Yeah, it's back now
 
Even I'm able to access now
 
T J
sad :p
I'm seeing exactly 1 upvote for many poor questions
Could it be a bot?
 
@TechTreeDev To be honest homework is not a valid close reasons, you need to determine if it is too broad, unclear or missing MCVE otherwise we can not close it. Then you should send the cv-pls with tag markup [tag:cv-pls] reasons, link, see the FAQ for more info. But most of all WELCOME.
 
Hiya @PetterFriberg
 
11:30 AM
Hiya
 
T J
It's unclear actually
the only description is "Consider the following three transactions"
I considered. Now what?!
3
 
Morning
 
Morning
 
Yeah homework usually are this, but remember transcript is open for everyone so we better ask to close with valid close reasons : )
Morning
time to eat afk
 
11:39 AM
using putty to tunnel to an remote server, and the linux ssh client to tunnel to yet another router, then using inetd to connect to my router, so I could manage it remotely. Most complex connection I ever made
 
@Ferrybig You can always make it more complex :)
 
I know, I have could made something simulairly to xkcd 676 of it...
 
I'm back
 
T J
Sorry wrong reason , ^ No MCVE
 
11:44 AM
you can still edit, you know
I'd ping you but it won't work:P
(I know, replies do)
 
@KhalidHussain idk. I did fix the formatting. afk
 
T J
I hate it when people dump a requirement instead of tacking it step by step >.<
 
I have changed my name but It's not displayed here :(
 
@KhalidHussain You have to wait for the cache to refresh
 
11:52 AM
few minutes, Jose
 
@AndrasDeak It's actually luck. When I had changed my name for testing purposes, it took 20 mins for my name to appear here
 
really?
 
@AndrasDeak I am the new boss of MANU :)
 
oh, wait, I might have confused it with an avatar change
 
@AndrasDeak yeah. Even I didn't expect it to take so long...
 
11:54 AM
that spam has not been deleted yet
 
not spam
 
abusive
 
abusive, yes. spam, NO
 
yes abusive....
 
@KhalidHussain caching. It takes a little bit.
 
11:56 AM
in this specific room there's a huge difference
 
@AndrasDeak They end up it the same place. It is okay to nuke that post. 1 rep unreged user with offensive content. <boom>
 
Feeding the spam filter is a no-no.
 
It is more than spam. It is spam/rude/abusive content that it tracks. In this case it was offensive and sd k is the right way to go.
 
hmm
I reread Undo's post
> In the same way, people here should use rude/abusive flags (like calling conference security). This feeds signal to SpamRam, the automated security officer that blocks IP ranges that keep doing this. If you don't want that system to kick in on these people... please tell me why.
I somehow remembered the other way around, that only actual spam should and will be spamram-fed
sorry guys
 

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