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1:00 PM
@Kyll because the market capitalization for Minecraft products is in the billions
 
I blame the fact that the initial code base was written by a third rate hobbyist java guy in his off time
and it has not been properly redone since
 
Yeah I'm still waiting on a .NET rewrite of Minecraft
 
@Kyll Billions of Dollars in Minecraft merchandise
The minecraft steam game, pocket edition, tshirts, the upcoming movie...
the possibilities to suck money from that game are near endless
 
@TylerH @Magisch Heh. And I was hoping they'd make a nice Minecraft 2, now without lags crashes and garbage all over it
 
Sales of Minecraft when Notch still owned it reached $200,000,000 alone
 
1:01 PM
@JAL Here's another one stackoverflow.com/a/36154997/1743880 fire up your auto-comment
 
The 1.9 update is kinda messed up though. They made combat wayyyy harder and now it's a little too hard IMO
 
JAL
@Tunaki thanks, fired
 
I don't mind mobs hitting harder or skeletons still being able to shoot at me no matter how much of their body is visible or what direction their facing (actually I do mind that), but they arbitrarily slowed down player attack speed to be excruciatingly slow
 
@TylerH By the way, ever tried Factorio?
 
and now swords swipe all the time when you just want to strike
@Kyll I've never played it but I looked at it when you guys were talking about it/playing it and IIRC I thought it was very ugly
like Dwarf Fortress without any texture packs
 
1:04 PM
@JAL that's not the only 777 answer in that thread...
 
JAL
Thanks, I'll add it to the accepted and other answers too
 
@TylerH Ugly as f, but very satisfying
 
@Kyll lol
minecraft without bugs
 
Heh, I just started FTB Infinity a few weeks ago
 
I have over 4000 hours played in minecraft
 
1:06 PM
Yesterday, my AE system was eating up my items.
Whelp, restore backup :-/
 
@Cerbrus Infinity evolved expert
report back when you have a creative mana pool
 
Not expert
 
JAL
that guy works for rackspace, he should know better... (re chmod 777)
 
(hint: that takes at least 400 hours)
 
I've seen a playthrough of expert
 
1:07 PM
400 hours to know better? Wow.
 
I've done one
3 friends of mine and me
 
I'm not organized enough.
 
we went ham for 4 weeks straight
 
Mmm. Ham.
 
I've got a wither killing machine set up, but I don't have a proper power storage / supply yet.
 
1:08 PM
I have more than 1000 hours in minecraft....
 
4 weeks of fixing chmod 777 while eating ham?
 
The only farm I have is some manual berries / cotton farm xD
 
@Magisch how do you count that
 
I made a 620.000 rf/t power generation based on bread
 
@TylerH It's ugly, but damn it's good. There's a demo available on factorio.com
 
1:09 PM
@TylerH A conservative estimate. One server I played for 3 years on I had at least 2800 hours
 
Screeps is another very good game for programmers :D
 
another one at least 1500 hours
 
I probably gotta work on power. Maybe relocate to the last milennium first.
 
all of them in between I didn't track
so I guess it could be well over 8000 hours realisticly
 
@MadaraUchiha I don't know this one, checking...
 
1:09 PM
I have no clue how much time I've spent playing Minecraft
 
@Kyll Build a colony, you don't have direct control over your units, you get an empty JS function that runs every tick, and you need to write code that controls everything.
 
"MMO strategy sandbox game for programmers"
 
I imagine it's probably somewhere in the 500 to 1,000 hours range
 
I've got like 720 hours on TF2
 
I've got like 7 hours on TF2
 
1:10 PM
@MadaraUchiha 900 here. Probably more than 2k hours in Minecraft. More than a thousand on M&B Warband
 
I know someone who has 3 years and 46 days raw playtime in WoW
 
@Kyll I never really understood how people can spend hours and hours on Minecraft.
 
JAL
There's only one game for programmers: Uplink: Hacker Elite
 
I got super bored after 2 hours of trying really REALLY hard.
 
NERDS!!!
 
1:11 PM
Bukkit stopped development because 1 of the developers was claiming that craftbukkit was not redistributed with the full source code, something required by the GPL, but craftbukkit could not be released under the GPL because it contained edited minecraft code. Hence the product develoment could not continue
 
@gunr2171 Says the 400 hours on TF2 dude
 
yeah, you're double the nerd I am
 
400 hours
 
morning.
 
thats a normal month for me
 
1:12 PM
Plop @ryanyuyu!
 
morning.
 
casuals
 
@ryanyuyu Morning
 
in The Ministry of Silly Hats, Mar 18 at 16:15, by gunr2171
life is just about wasting time in the correct locations
 
@Ferrybig Mojang was being a little troublesome as well.
 
1:12 PM
I tryhard everything I do
 
@MadaraUchiha building stuff
 
batch197 count=18 cv4 is in the beehive
 
part of why im messing around on SO so much is that my company insists that I do a "apprentice amount" of projects
which means like one every other week
which I then spend a day or two on
 
@TylerH Have you ever tried drawing a picture pixel by pixel?
Because that's exactly what Minecraft is
 
You can get to the point where you are "strong enough" to kill the ender dragon in a couple hours
 
1:13 PM
@Cerbrus Mojang could not allow craftbukkit to continue because that would mean giving their source for the server away
 
Basically, yea
 
@MadaraUchiha Yes, I spent most of my keyboarding class in middle school doing that
 
@MadaraUchiha but lava.
 
@TylerH Speedrunners have done it in 19 minutes
 
and no that's not what Minecraft is ;-)
 
1:14 PM
@TylerH "Keyboarding" class?
 
@Magisch speedrunners are also stupid and redundant :-)
 
wuzzat?
 
digital legos is an apt description
 
@MadaraUchiha learn how to type on a keyboard
 
@TylerH I can 1-shot the ender dragon :D
 
1:14 PM
@TylerH rofl
 
@Cerbrus In infinity I dont think there's a tool for that
 
Totes flagging as abusive on-- ah damnit
 
I know of Rotarycraft high powered gravel gun to do it
 
I mean, you asked what it was...
 
1:15 PM
but IIRC the best you can do in infinity evolved is signalum - signalum - fiery bowstring crossbow w/ 200 haste and luck and enderium bolts with maxed out sharpness
 
you literally fire up a typing program that has you type words and sentences and stuff
complete some exercises
 
The quick brown fox jumped over the lazy dog
 
@TylerH You should really try out Factorio, it's incredibly fun in MP
 
which, with str IV from BM caps you out at hitting for 112 hearts, which is less then the 150 the dragon has
 
@Kyll Have you done any of the mods yet?
 
1:16 PM
@MadaraUchiha *jumps
 
Of course I already knew how to type so I would finish my work every day in like 10 minutes and spend the other 40 minutes making a pixel-perfect checkerboard in MS Paint
 
Unpack my five dozen brown liquor jugs
 
@MadaraUchiha Yeah, a bit of Bobs. Didn't get all the way through.
 
no s in there otherwise, right?
 
The best minecraft mod is computer craft, where you get a computer that you can program in minecraft, and you can start a program for a text adventure where you can craft a computer in
 
1:16 PM
@MadaraUchiha You calling JonC lazy?
 
aka digital glue-sniffing
 
@Kyll I did Bob's a little while ago under DeathWorld settings
(with friends)
Was extremely satisfying
 
And yes, I am totally obsessed with minmaxing in minecraft
 
@Ferrybig I grew up with the dude who got famous for building the 16-bit ALU in minecraft
 
I'd really like a more challenging experience in Factorio. With a lot of very strong aliens to defend against!
 
1:17 PM
Have you guys played Undertale yet?
 
This one google.com/… cc @Ferrybig
 
@TylerH I seen that video in the past already, it was a nice project
 
Someone already built a computer in Factorio (using the relatively new logic combinators)
 
@tuna this is the hardest job of a room owner, getting the topic back on track
 
@MadaraUchiha I never tried those, I'd really like to try them out
 
1:21 PM
@MadaraUchiha I did
 
@Tuna Btw, I'm fine with you asking us to move all that in the Ministry
 
Meh.
 
We thus have RO approval. Who's up for TF2 Tuesday tonight?
 
It hasn't crossed my spamming threshold yet :)
 
1:22 PM
@Tunaki even though it was a lot of messages in very little time
 
@Magisch Enderium crossbow.
Eh, signallum
 
With Strenght IV and maxed signalum crossbow and maxed bolts you can at best get to 112 hearts
 
Don't have sharpness on my bolts, iirc
 
dragon has 150
 
Hm
I'm pretty sure I one-shot him
 
1:25 PM
@Magisch Throw a weakness potion on the dragon before the finishing blow
 
@Cerbrus Sometimes the dragon gets hit twice by tinkers projectiles
because they bounce from time to time, and his hitbox is so ridiculously large
 
I'll have to check the exact composition of the crossbow
Maybe that's it
 
Im pretty sure you can't get a better crossbow then signalum-signalum-signalum-fiery bowstring
 
The bolts are full enderium with 2 moss.
 
Ms Yvette ǝʇʇǝʌʎ sW passed a audit!
 
1:31 PM
I only ever play Vanilla MC
except a few server-type mods like deadbolt
and environment damage from creepers is turned off
 
And another quick termination of a offensive post
 
Madara needs his daily user termination fix.
 
Hi o/
 
Hiya o/
 
1:34 PM
hOi
 
Ms Yvette ǝʇʇǝʌʎ sW passed a audit!
 
@BhargavRao gone
 
... right when I was about to vote to delete. Whew I saved one then.
 
@MadaraUchiha Guess something needs to be done to prevent such stuff 1 2
 
No more flags to be gotten here with all those mods traipsing about
 
1:36 PM
@BhargavRao Not the required 3 delete I guess. Still.
 
@BhargavRao Well, mod deletes are irreversible by normal users
 
there was a post on meta about using recommend deletion rather than proper delete votes for LQP
 
So just custom flag/ping a mod
 
OK, your responses are telling me I'm missing something
 
@MadaraUchiha Awesome, I'll choose CF. Danke :)
 
1:38 PM
@BhargavRao Bitte
 
@AndrasDeak i.stack.imgur.com/cAYea.png ... Intelligent OP undeletes his deleted ans twice.
 
@AndrasDeak I think you're missing the fact that "Recommend Deletion" in the queue allows the OP to undelete, where as 3 "Delete" won't allow that.
 
oh, pooh
thanks:)
 
@Tunaki and yes, I was definitely missing that
thank you both
 
1:40 PM
^forgot to ask a question
 
@Tunaki 3 delete still will, I think.
 
@MadaraUchiha "normal users" - wait... does that mean we're not "normal"? That could explain a lot :p
 
I think only mods' deletions are locked in.
 
@MadaraUchiha They can still cast an undelete vote (if 10k+) but they can't single handedly undelete it
 
@MadaraUchiha I got that info from here meta.stackexchange.com/a/5222
 
1:41 PM
@JonClements huh
TIL
 
> An exception: if an answer is deleted from Low Quality review queue by "Recommend Deletion" votes, without three trusted users voting to delete, then it can be undeleted by the author.
By the way, does this make sense?
 
@MadaraUchiha But yeah... mod deletions basically disable undelete for non-mods
 
@JonClements Are you suggesting that we are?
 
One day I shall run for mod
The tyranny of the glorious smiley with headset "Make Stackoverflow great again"
 
We get a notif while undeleting.
 
1:43 PM
@Tunaki I'm guessing robo-reviewer countermeasures.
 
Huh.
 
@TylerH was a joke :)
 
@Tunaki Usually the OP will get the message that the post isn't adequate as was... so they can choose to edit and undelete... Mods get a custom flag that the OP has undeleted something deleted from review anyway - so if they haven't improved it and it warrants deletion, we can nuke it anyway
 
Ha there's an auto-flag? I don't remember reading that in the FAQ proposed.
 
@MadaraUchiha "Game.creeps is not iterable" Oh yeah? Object.keys(Game.creeps).forEach(key => farm(Game.creeps[key])) it is then.
 
1:45 PM
@JonClements Does that mean, we don't need to CusFlag?
7 mins ago, by Madara Uchiha
So just custom flag/ping a mod
 
@Tunaki it causes a disputed review auto-flag with a note underneath that says "Undeleted by OP"...
 
I was under the impression we're not allowed to ping mods in cases where custom flags would be appropiate
 
@Magisch I don't mind being pinged (nor do most) but the correct way is to custom flag - that way you know it's in the queue and will be gotten around to - rather than sitting around thinking we've seen it in chat
 
@Magisch That was shog9 indications, asking him... don't circumvent the normal channels.
 
@NATO Out of flags.
 
1:47 PM
@Tunaki I'm there
 
@Tunaki I don't think it does
 
60 left
 
at least re-deletion after a self-undelete should have severe repercussions
I know, need some time for editing etc...
ah OK, auto mod-flag is cool
 
Link is 404
 
link is example from question
 
1:49 PM
LoL. Edited by 404
 
@JonClements Ping.
 
@MartinJames You're the grumpy old thoroughly british cynic of SO, aren't you?
 
resisting the urge to ping Jon
 
I'll not ping Jon, as I don't have a stock of Scooby Snacks
 
1:52 PM
@TimCastelijns huh?
 
@Sam Grand-dad's been missing since that snowstorm in '75... Nice to see him again!
 
Sam
Lol
 
@Tunaki are you up for deleting this? stackoverflow.com/questions/35815689
 
yes
 
oh wait I was gonna vote but not two days old sorry
 
1:55 PM
two days old?
 
Users below 20k have to wait for a question to be closed for two days
 
I mean I cant vtd for another day
 
@TylerH about user 1 being the hardcoded admin
 
before they can delete vote
 
Ahh just checking to make sure I'm not imagining things... "disputed low quality review (auto) - Post was undeleted by the author" - so yeah... we do get a flag :p
 
1:56 PM
@TimCastelijns ohh I misread what you said. I saw "what a joke" instead
 
@LinusKleen I've noticed you've started reviewing! I'll update your session record.
 
@JonClements Thanks for digging :) @BhargavRao -------------------------------------------^
 
@Tunaki Thanks for pinging :) @MadaraUchiha -----------------------------------------------------------------------^
 
Can you see your own deleted posts as lower than 10k person?
 
Shall I report?
 
2:00 PM
@Ferrybig there was a meta about it... I think, yes
 
@JonClements Good boy! ` ε==3 ⊂゚U┬────┬~`
 
@Ferrybig Yes - if you click the "show deleted recent posts" on your rep tab - you can see the last 60 days
 
Linus Kleen passed a audit!
 
@BhargavRao Thats most definately report worthy
 
Spam edited out
Just NAA
 
2:01 PM
It was naa, not spam
 
No need to bring out the laser blaster.
 
@Tunaki Why do you edit out spam from a question?
 
in Charcoal HQ on The Stack Exchange Network Chat, 41 secs ago, by 404
@SmokeDetector grr why edit out spam?
 
that's what Jon said, just with a link
 
2:02 PM
@Ferrybig If you're 10k though, you can run "user:me deleted:1" as a search to show all of your own deleted posts
 
@JonClements I am still 4k, slowly growing up
 
I am at 3.7k, not growing all that much
because I suck
as a coder
 
iirc it had a bug for a few days that enabled any 10k users to actually put any user id in and see others' deleted posts, but that was fixed quite quickly :p
@Ferrybig Hey... if you end up in a situation where you really need to find a delete post, ping one of us if you know we're around and active, and we can tell you what they are anyway
 
That is 100% spam :)
 
By "Deez nuts"
>_>
 
2:07 PM
From someone with 42 rep: "I don't have enough rep to comment, so I'm putting this in answer..." AAAARRRRGGGGHHH!
 
JAL
the worst
 
"I know your rules, but screw them anyways"
How about no and we ban you instead
 
@Mogsdad leading to someone with 32 rep doing the same
 
JAL
I never knew something so trivial could attract so much attention: How to write for-loop in Swift 2.2? (DISCLAIMER: I have an upvoted answer)
 
@JAL bike-shedding ftw (judging by the title)
 
JAL
2:08 PM
Again, more reasons why people hate mobile devs, they can't write a freaking for loop -_-
 
@MsYvetteǝʇʇǝʌʎsW You've reviewed 60 posts today (of which 3 were audits), thanks! The time between your first and last review today was 7 hours, 28 minutes, and 54 seconds, averaging to a review every 7 minutes and 28 seconds.
 
@Closey room effectiveness
 
@PetterFriberg 11 members (0% of this room's able reviewers) have processed 343 review items today, which accounts for 15.56% of all CV reviews today.
 
== unable
 
2:11 PM
that's the new thing
 
@Ferrybig I've noticed you've started reviewing! I'll update your session record.
 
@Andris \o
 
Lets try to see if the reviews go better for me this day
 
@Ferrybig Install some nice script : )
 
@PetterFriberg I know that script, but isn't it cheating?
 
2:13 PM
only if you get caught;)
besides, audits should be easy
the numbers are all wrong
 
Thanks to [close] and [turtle] being removed, I can now watch the delete Q
 
user3956566
how come I had more close votes than the 60 for review?
 
@MsYvetteǝʇʇǝʌʎsW ?
 
@MsYvetteǝʇʇǝʌʎsW You clicked left open, those don't consume close votes
 
user3956566
I had 3 left over close votes.. but I didn't vote to leave open 3 posts hm
 
2:16 PM
@LinusKleen You've reviewed 60 posts today (of which 4 were audits), thanks! The time between your first and last review today was 18 minutes and 55 seconds, averaging to a review every 18 seconds.
 
@MsYvetteǝʇʇǝʌʎsW Maybe the audits consumed the review, but not the close votes
 
user3956566
@Ferrybig ah yes, I had 3 audits. thanks
 
user3956566
night all.
 
@MsYvetteǝʇʇǝʌʎsW Night
 
Is this NAA ?
 
2:19 PM
@MsYvetteǝʇʇǝʌʎsW Night
 
@JAL it's a basic question, not surprising :-)
lots of people are gonna hit that over time
 
@Bhar @Msy @Tyl \o
 
@kay o/
 
JAL
@kayess We should just delete the question
 
@JAL Alright
 
@BhargavRao Yes.
I also edited out the key already
 
yikes waz up in Belgium
 
Oh @Andy the autoflagger here! Hi \o
 
Chaos
 
o/
 
2:24 PM
If not, then Broad.
 
not spam
 
@TylerH I see you have commented, I will remove mine
 
<3
 
Done, content is getting worse by edits:(
 
Ferrybig passed a audit!
 
JAL
2:28 PM
Just a heads up: there were some StoreKit-breaking changes in the iOS 9.3 SDK/Xcode 7.3 update that went out yesterday. If you guys see any questions that contain "Use of unresolved identifier" and "StoreKit", feel free to direct them to my canonical: Use of unresolved identifier when using StoreKit constants with iOS 9.3/Xcode 7.3
also feel free to give me feedback on that post
 
We should have some gist or transcript containiing the usefule canonical dupes
 
Dat advertising tho
 
Plop!
 
@JAL I am not sure if its needed, but can you add a example how to do a check for one of those constants?
 
JAL
cc @EricD.
@Ferrybig added
 
2:35 PM
i.stack.imgur.com/18P6q.png Found rene's brother today
 
no flower, sheesh
 
@kayess That'd be a really big list
 
Camouflaged flower
 
@JAL I've just seen your post. It's a good one, and a good idea to do this. Makes selecting target for dupe easier.
 
@kayess sopython.com/canon [python] people are intelligent :P
 
2:37 PM
@BhargavRao René Artois? Who happens to be the twin brother of René Artois?
 
JAL
@BhargavRao that's awesome
"Going to vote to close now though as this is not really an ideal question for SO." so don't answer it! — JAL 6 secs ago
some people...
 
@Cerbrus Twin brother of rene the flower :D
 
@BhargavRao Yeah, wth, Rene? Posting a "partially finished" answer?!
 
@Cerbrus can you please hammer stackoverflow.com/questions/36157245/…
Out of votes :(
 
2:39 PM
@BhargavRao Getting a little frustrated, are you? stackoverflow.com/questions/31112461/…
 
@TylerH np. we have enough guys here :p
 
@JAL Yep, few of the dupes closed in Python are within 30secs. My personal best is 19 :P
 
@gunr2171 Lol, That look's perfect.
 
JAL
@BhargavRao should I save my flag in case it doesn't get deleted through the review?
 
2:41 PM
@kayess In some tags, the tag wiki contains a canonical question list. VBA is one example.
 
@Mogsdad Nice! I haven't saw that
 
@Mogsdad Nope, One of my flags were declined when the part now in bold was in normal font. So I just made it bold; Has been my auto-comment ever since then.
 
@Tushar Done
 
@JAL For which one?
 
2:42 PM
@JAL Nah, It'll be deleted. :D
 
@Fred-ii- Trainwreck? sees , oh, that's why.
 
your answer will fail in so many ways ... too funny
 
Flagged this as VLQ; But on closer look, It might be spam stackoverflow.com/a/36157403/4099593
 
@Drew yeah and he deleted his answer. what a mess (facepalm)
 
Anyone good in here?
 
2:47 PM
@Fred-ii- Chris is thrown on the altar
 
ahah
 
JAL
@Magisch Nathan and Mogs
ah nice!
 
@gunr2171 depends on which side of the track one likes to look at the scenery ;-)
 
JAL
lol Eric
 
:)
 
JAL
2:48 PM
@EricD. those questions are a breeding ground for crap
 
Can anyone decent with C take a crack at my answer and see if the coding in there really is terrible like the comments say? stackoverflow.com/questions/36148712/…
 
@JAL that's the problem indeed
 
@Drew Chris missed a lot of things with OP's code. I pretty much summed it all up in comments.
 
@Magisch your 2nd for loop ain't so hot
I love PHP. The comedy of it all
 
@Drew Missing sanity checking?
 
2:51 PM
@Magisch Use quote blocks if your quoting someone's code, it helps quickly seaing what part comes from the question, and what post you typed
 
@Magisch it won't please the C gods even if their fcn implementation (alternative) performs poorly
 
The problem with the sprintf implementation is that its a mess to implement for variable lenght string prefixes
while with mine you can just have some more space padding
 
@Drew That is the only attitude that can keep you sane when wading in there!
 
I go there just to read Fred and Dagon comments
 
;) yeah Dagon's a hoot :)
 
2:54 PM
and of course OP in that question totally jumped ship without accepting any answer
or voting on any, for that matter
 
@Magisch Ahoy matey, welcome aboard ;-) I feel your pain, too many times that I can shake a stick at. Many "fly by night" travellers like to "jump ship".
 
Always the same when I answer c questions: "You might think this is a good idea, but here are all these unlikely corner cases where it could maybe not work so no, downvote"
>_>
I realise im not very good at c but its quite disheartening
 
do it for the humor
 
...that's the spirit
 
If I want to burn free time for humor I go play a game
 
2:57 PM
speaking of ship, I have a few decks to swab. Later mateys
 
Later Fred
 

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