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11:10 AM
when will be the next meeting? (gunr is not invited!)
no magic...
 
No repro.
 
@Braiam aah that makes sense
 
Poorly tagged.
 
11:25 AM
@PraveenKumar I can repro in Chrome
 
@EricAya Oh, I am using Chrome too.
 
@PraveenKumar the img jumps after having clicked one of the buttons in the modal
 
@EricAya Oh...
 
It then quickly goes back to normal - it's easy to miss :)
 
Yes... I can see it now. Shoot, the OP didn't explain it properly, or may be I am dumb.
 
11:27 AM
Happens here too, using MF
 
Anyway, not sure how to fix it.
I have removed my comment.
 
@Braiam room meeting?
 
@Seth Say FF, not MF LoL.
 
MF- Mozilla Firefox
FF?
 
FF = FireFox. Using a wrong capitalization, since it's Firefox
 
11:29 AM
^- :o
 
@Tunaki i was just kidding i knew
 
o: -^
 
(>^.^)>
 
//////o/o/o/o//o/o/o/o/o
 
ò.ó
 
11:31 AM
/o_o/
 
^ Stolen from Seth, without attribution
 
LoL
 
⅃o⅃
 
11:33 AM
 
@Tunaki Ƨʜɒmɘ ᴤµɐwө ɘmɒʜƧ Shame >:(
 
You can never prove I did steal it :p
 
@Tunaki Your message states it though ò.ó
@Tunaki That one :^)
I have outsmarted you!
 
lol
a spearrel outsmarted a fish
sounds fishy
 
@Seth You didn't ò.ó
 
11:40 AM
@Tunaki Yes I did ^-^
Inb4 the Fish with no legs kicks the Spearrel :(
 
@Seth Nope ^-^
 
@Tunaki yup
 
@Braiam Why is gunr not invited :o
 
@Braiam Isn't planned yet. There aren't many items to discuss.
 
Can anyone here give me two interview questions I can ask a medior dev who claims to be an native Android and native iOS developer?
 
11:42 AM
@rene are you native american, too?
 
I encourage you guys to add things in there, btw
 
Asking for interview questions in the SOCVR... Can I ask for an interview in the SOCVR? :)
 
@rene What is an object? What is an interface?
 
@rene what is context? difference between application and activity context?
@Tunaki that is for java
 
@ColdFire sure, I can handle that
 
11:43 AM
@rene that is for android btw
 
@Seth sure, you can always try ...
@ColdFire OK
 
@rene Can I have an interview? :)
 
for IOS ask what is controller?
or UItableView?
 
@rene yes
 
11:44 AM
Ok
 
2nd part is also there
the difference
 
I like how you're going to ask the question, and just googled the answer :D Why are you performing an Android interview to begin with?
 
^
why to use Fragments instead of activity?
 
@Tunaki I want to know if they have actual knowledge ....
 
is NestedFragments supported?
 
11:46 AM
I'm sure you can deduce that 20 seconds in
talking about the weather
 
PITA of Fragments?
 
@rene for iOS "What is (strong) reference cycle?" You would be surprised how many so called devs don't know basics of memory management. You can omit "strong" to make it a tad harder :)
 
What is ARC?
for ios^
 
@ColdFire I know what an ACR is, if that helps...
 
is ARC compile time or Runtime?
@Seth its ARC
 
11:48 AM
Android Apple Recursive Container?
 
its for IOS -_-
 
@DalijaPrasnikar I like that one.
 
Automatic Reference Counting
 
@ColdFire Now that is plain naughty ;-)
 
@DalijaPrasnikar hehe you will be suprised how many people dont know that
@rene :(
 
11:49 AM
Basic questions are the most difficult to answer =/
 
@ColdFire AKA garbage collector apprentice
 
Why would you recommend doing an iOS application instead of other approaches?
 
apprentice?
 
I think I have enough now, thx all
 
Why develop for Ios if you have android?
 
11:50 AM
Congrats Dalija, you made it to the top of rene's list
 
yeah :(
 
@ColdFire Why develop for either one if you have .... WINDOWS?!
ô_ô
 
@Seth because nobody uses windows and each home has a window already
 
@ColdFire I do.
I am not nobody.
@Nobody is nobody.
 
Are you sure?
What is nobody?
 
11:52 AM
@Seth you are spearrel then can do anything
 
@ColdFire I have your suggestions on my list as well, don't worry ;)
 
I have just proven that noone except @Nobody is nobody. By "proven" I mean having said it :) Also, please visit my grave & grief for me when Nobody kyllifies me for the pings....
 
lol
 
Or too broad.
 
@rene :) be sure to not mix Up android and IOS questions
i have given both
 
11:53 AM
@rene Good luck with that interview! :)
 
lol rene is the interviewer
wish the interview giver
 
@ColdFire if it is Android/iOS dev he can first sort questions by OS
 
@ColdFire yeah, I got them apart, trust me, I know what I'm doing ...
 
@DalijaPrasnikar yeah if he is dev of both
@rene ok nice
 
@ColdFire I know that. Still, having a good, calm, successful interview is a lot more enjoyable for both sides, than having a bad, disappointing one :) ....
@ColdFire No need to wish for the dead.
 
11:55 AM
i knew was just kidding..
 
@rene name one thing that's hard in Android development and easy in iOS development, and vice versa.
 
@Seth lol atleast we can wish for their souls
@Glorfindel yeah nice one
 
@ColdFire =D
 
layouts, more flexibility solid api
 
@Glorfindel Hey, look! Another thing that I have no clue about! :|
 
11:56 AM
no 1000000 of devices to test
and no bugs and no fragmentation
 
no storyboards
 
naah i hate storyboard
 
OK, wish them luck, thanks
 
android xml editor is fine
 
@rene How many are you interviewing?
 
11:59 AM
@ColdFire that is what I meant... what needs minutes in Android takes hours in iOS and merge conflicts and no reusability...
 
@DalijaPrasnikar you can avoid merging issues by making different storyboard
reusability is a issue
 
@ColdFire that is what I am doing... still... every once in a while...
 
@DalijaPrasnikar yeah you cant completely skip it
 
You're not forced to use storyboards, if this is a real issue for you plain old XIB files work as well.
 
aah so many mobile devs today here
@Glorfindel i have only heard of it but i dont know what that is
 
12:03 PM
Storyboards are basically XIB files 2.0
I still use them, e.g. for custom table view cells which need to be reused in different screens.
 
i see i am not a IOS dev so dont know much about it
 
I didn't remembered posting this stackoverflow.com/a/31652869/792066, until I saw that I actually did meta.stackoverflow.com/a/300289/792066
In case someone forgot The Backstroke of the west
 
@Glorfindel I should probably give XIB's another chance... I was probably too green when I decided they are worse than storyboards...
 
Another LQ answer without any explanation. Worse than the previous two answers. — Praveen Kumar 18 secs ago
 
@PraveenKumar no downvotes on the question, though
 
12:14 PM
@Braiam There's now, apparently.
 
@Drew another one for you ^^
 
@PraveenKumar Has one of yours as well ;)
 
@Tunaki Er... Okay. I'll remove.
 
user6820627
14 hours ago, by Tiny Giant
Updated Rule #15: Do not request action on a post that you have asked or answered.
 
@LearnHowToBeTransparent Didn't see the updated rule. LoL.
 
12:21 PM
o/
 
Hiya o/
 
how's it goin
 
Just saw that Praveen re-opened this after it was closed so he could get the rep points... — Craig 1 min ago
 
@epascarello Reopening because it is clear now. — Praveen Kumar 48 secs ago
 
user6820627
@PraveenKumar hey, that's bad.
 
user6820627
12:30 PM
that Q is clear but leave it closed
 
user6820627
i don't want to see How to iterate JSON object with jQuery in my life i saw lots of similar questions and i hate them @PraveenKumar
 
@Craig If that's the case, if you suspect, I am very well happy to vote to delete this question. But the OP has lot more questions, that's been discussed below. Check. — Praveen Kumar 45 secs ago
I know I know...
 
user6820627
@PraveenKumar still dupe.
 
Alright.
 
@PraveenKumar "The OP has more questions" is not a good argument because it does not distinguish the OP's duplicate question from the one against which it was closed. This question was a duplicate and still is a duplicate even after the edit.
 
12:37 PM
@Louis I am planning to close it and delete it now.
Some AH is serially downvoting me. LoL.
Not sure whom to report it to.
 
Morning
 
@PraveenKumar no-one
 
LoL. Okay.
 
@seth what was the ping a reply to?
 
@PraveenKumar Closed now.
 
user6820627
12:39 PM
and need 6 del votes
 
Oh nice... Del-vs please.
@LearnHowToBeTransparent 3
 
I've got no idea what you're doing there Praveen
But rule #15 still applies...
 
@Tunaki Gaargh... Rule #15 is overridden because of so much calamity happened now. Tuna...
Delete the question and move my message to trash can. :)
Rules are meant only for a guidance, when something happens, they have to be flexible. Agree?
Hey, let's not argue over that stupid question. Thanks. :) Let's keep moving on.
 
@PraveenKumar you're better off just dropping it :)
 
No. Some rules you just don't break.
 
12:43 PM
@JonClements Yea, that's what I just said. :)
 
Like the eat waffle rule
 
@NathanOliver Done. From next time.
 
That one, you cannot break.
 
@Tunaki Idli!!!
 
12:44 PM
@Tunaki Change the rule to Idli. :D
@PatsyIssa Wow. Nice. Will have a read on it soon.
 
@PatsyIssa have some waffles...
 
mmm waffles
 
Idlies?
Can I haz some idliz plz?
 
"icy conditions caused a pileup involving two thousand walruses on Interstate 65" Welcome to my world.
 
I had to google walruses to make sure I was translating it correctly, something looked wrong, but nope :).
 
12:49 PM
hahahaha
 
My hearing is easily thrown off by ambient noise. My brain did hear it as "walruses".
 
@PraveenKumar come to india for that
 
@ColdFire Uh, not now... It's 2.5 lakhs to fly.
Eh what?
 
@PraveenKumar wow that is costly
 
@ColdFire I know! :( Christmas time dude. Not the right time.
Last time I came like 35000.. :D Both onward and return together.
Lunch time for kittens. Bye!
 
12:54 PM
@PraveenKumar oh yeah that sounds like a fair price
 
@ColdFire Actually cheaper. :) :)
@Shadow Done.
 
@PraveenKumar how many gold badges you have
 
user6820627
@ColdFire about 30. that's not many. no, but more than last time (source)
 
@PraveenKumar dup hammers*
@LearnHowToBeTransparent -_-
 
user6820627
@ColdFire what do you mean?
 
1:01 PM
i have no clue what do you mean?
 
@Seth just one
 
@Tunaki Thanks for looking. I figured you'd be the person who knew NPE best
 
@Machavity yes not a NPE dup
 
1:20 PM
@ColdFire 17
@ColdFire 5
 
@PraveenKumar yes that is wanted to know and wow
 
I found a C++ rene
 
but he is not a flower^
 
@ColdFire He is, actually. rene is blurry, but this guy has been sharpened too many times in Photoshop
 
@ColdFire How can you tell? Maybe he is shy
 
1:22 PM
lol
@NathanOliver well the same way you can tell he is shy
@Machavity i see photoshop has degraded over time
 
@Closey what to do when a RO links to user a profile? :(
 
yeah against the rules
@NathanOliver we do not moderate users
 
@Queen k
 
:)
 
@Tunaki I thought it was okay if we just wanted to show off a flower.
 
1:27 PM
@NathanOliver :)
 
1:46 PM
afk
 
Please reject above edit. Spam.
 
@ColdFire :)
 
@Kyll done
 
morning!
 
2:03 PM
morning!
 
hey
 
woot friday!
also, I like how it was 1°F / -17°C last night...
 
@gunr2171 Physically where ?
 
north east US
 
Oh, overseas
 
2:06 PM
Wrong side of the Atlantic, poor gunr.
 
: (
 
Should we flag him for migration ?:p
 
: )
 
: |
 
: (
 
2:08 PM
: )
 
Four cabin trains... nothing's the same old.
Possible edit candidate: stackoverflow.com/questions/41186180/… shouldn't some of the automatisms had to catch this using that word?
 
Please stop mollycoddling this answer by editing it, its phrased to precisely convey my emotions.!!! — Mohd Abdul Mujib 9 mins ago
What does mollycoddling mean ?
 
no idea
 
> treat (someone) in an indulgent or overprotective way.
thanks Google
 
Wow. Way to go google
btw, Hiya pro
 
hiya
 
2:49 PM
@kayess It means to treat like a child
 
Hiya
Anyone free to go to patrol the NATO? There's 7-8 unflagged NAAs there.
 
@BhargavRao I'm on it
 
Danke.
 
Happy Russia SOCVR day. In Russia, mods ask you for flags
 
2:59 PM
@gunr2171 oh, and I just got this email. Glad I'm working from home today.
> We are aware that there are some concerns with the heat not working this morning. Facilities is working with CP Management to get this taken care of.
 
3:17 PM
@Machavity I see now thanks. However should that post be in that form??? Along with chatty comments ?:p
 
@BhargavRao You really want that reported after you nuking it? :o
 
I left it for a full 10 secs. You all were too slow. Can't help.
 
#ModAbuse
 
@BhargavRao Good.
I am gonna follow up for !!/report as well...
Where's that guy... @Ferrybig???
You've got a work to do mate.
 
3:40 PM
@Queen f
target is good otherwise but does not address OP's specific issue
 
3:55 PM
I mean, technically it answers the question
 
Flagged as "Not sure if this is spam. But this should not be here."
 
yeah... I will not flag it but...
 
VLQ
and poofed
 
alright then... that was easy
 
@Queen k
 
3:59 PM
Hover over the gold badge in the "this is closed as duplicate" box. Does the font look weird to you guys?
 
Yeah
It's a reported bug since ages I think. jQuery update
 
ah
 
@NathanOliver @Tunaki said that it was you who stole the maple syrup =(
 
@Seth Oh. guilty as charged, I love that stuff
 
@rene How did it go? :o
@NathanOliver same here ^-^
So delicious.
 
All his answers are spam.
Is there an sd k equivalent for the user?
 
@PraveenKumar k blacklists the user
 
I mean, is there a command to... report all the users' posts?
 
Not any more. We do not target users.
 
@NathanOliver Okay.
 
4:11 PM
!!/allspam
 
^-- Technically, there is, but we're not allowing its use here.
 
Oh...
Spam???
 
looks NAA to me
 
meh. delete the Q.
 
4:19 PM
@EricAya those will get declined, because it's the question's fault.
 
question is no more
 
@Glorfindel I just deleted the Q anyway. :)
 
4:30 PM
plop!
 
Hi o/
 
Ha ha ha...
!!/blame
 
@PraveenKumar It's NathanOliver's fault.
 
Let's see... LoL. NO!
 
!!/blame
 
4:35 PM
@ColdFire It's Eric Aya's fault.
 
@dorukayhan blob!
 
well at least the people who have answered so far so not have cv privs.
 
@SotiriosDelimanolis stackoverflow.com/questions/4706696 (closed as not a real q)
 
@Tunaki If you want to take that ^^^
 
@SotiriosDelimanolis did you already vtc with a non-duplicate reason?
 
4:40 PM
I did.
 
Many people don't understand how tags work. :/
@SmokeDetector Always.
 
@approxiblue With 6 del votes, ah
 
@Tunaki unfortunate, I think we could leave it as a useful dupe target
 
4:47 PM
@JAL die Java.
 
@approxiblue Agree. C++ has one
Should we reopen it?
 
Reopen round?
 
@JAL they are after android ofcourse
 
user4639281
People still use Java?
 
Damn you ninja :(
 
4:50 PM
reopen or delete?
 
@TinyGiant nope
 
I'm trigger happy
 
I use Java apps
 
Long live JavaScript! Write once, run anywhere!
 
Wait
 
4:50 PM
@Tunaki How doyou feel as links in comments here for dupe?
 
@AlexanderO'Mara Sure... Long live JavaScript!
 
Dupe targets can live just as fine closed
 
@JanDvorak Yeah but this one is attracting delete votes
 
@NathanOliver cant it be kept closed and use as dupe target?
 
4:51 PM
@NathanOliver @Tunaki this has the better answer from Skeet
 
ha, he answered both
 
user4639281
4:52 PM
lOl
 
IoI
 
lol
 
user4639281
:P
 
4:52 PM
crash
 
crash
 
user4639281
 
@TinyGiant new SpeechStream(People.TINY_GIANT).say("of course");
 
4:53 PM
Feel good.
 
Hammer away
 
user4639281
:P
 
@Tunaki Shouldn't it be the other way?
 
user4639281
@Tunaki hammer time
 
user4639281
@PraveenKumar the target has the better answer
 
4:55 PM
@TinyGiant Okay.
 
"Java SE is free but Java SE Advanced Desktop, Advanced and Suite are not. Java SE Suite, for example, costs $300 per named user with a support bill of $66; there’s a per-processor option of $15,000 with a $3,300 support bill."
 
Today's questions are worst and I am giving up.
:(
 
Who would ever use Java SE Advanced Desktop though
 
Actually, OPs are worst.
 
Advanced Desktop TO THE MAX
ok brb
 
4:59 PM
@SotiriosDelimanolis does anyone actually buy that
 

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