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1:01 PM
try{
bait("wafflez");
}catch(Kyll){
Kyll > /dev/null
}
 
@Rizier123 <Formatting Issues>
 
@Rizier123 Sadly you don't have nearly enough memory to even instantiate me
 
Now that he's RO Kyll can no longer participate in our off topic shenanigans
 
:'(
misses old @Kyll
 
bites Praveen
 
1:03 PM
@Magisch no he can. we just have to make sure tunaki and rene aren't around
 
Who wants to de-ro Kyll?
 
shouts in excitement and throws @Kyll somewhere
 
@PraveenKumar Kyll doesn't extend UncheckedException. You can't just throw him around without forewarning us.
 
try {
  inform_members(new KyllThrowerAgent());
  throw Kyll();
} catch (volleyBall) {
  void();
}
 
void PraveenKumar() throws Kyll
 
1:06 PM
isn't it void PraveenKumar(void); ?
 
> Settlement void.
 
@JanDvorak this is C# so there aren't any checked exceptions
 
kyll catchKyll (kyll Kyll) {
return Kyll;
}
 
Kyll is written in C#? o.O
 
@Henders Nope, java. ô.ô
 
1:07 PM
@Seth so his dad is Tunaki, technically
 
@Henders I'm written in KyllScript
Which Magisch will create in 15 years
 
@kayess Sam -> Tuna -> Kyll
Tuna is just another bot of Sam :)
 
@Kyll There's exception handling in that language?
 
and Kyll is a bot created by Tuna
So technically he's a new Gen :o
 
I have come back in time to spread the ultimate solution to world domination: A rebel SOCVR force using the power of the Plop.
@ryanyuyu The language is the exception.
 
1:09 PM
Using the power of the baguette*
 
Plop is now greatly declining so...
 
/define plop
 
@Kyll Like all of Jon Skeet's code?
 
class TrashBag<T> extends UncheckedException{
  private T t;
  public TrashBag(T t){
    this.t = t
  }
}

// Usage example (wrap kyll in a trash bag before throwing him out):
// TrashBag<Kyll> up = new TrashBag(kyll)
// throw up
 
1:10 PM
@ryanyuyu Exactly, except Jon Skeet rises to a new level of existence in the future so he isn't coding much
 
Ah that's our opening.
 
@Kyll wow, I guess that explains that...
Brings up a whole bunch of other questions, though :P
 
@Henders Yep.
 
I thought my brain felt a bit nutty...
 
In case you're wondering, it also tastes like it.
 
1:12 PM
Oh, the humanity...
 
What if I'm not wondering?
 
@Henders spearrality.
 
@JanDvorak Watermelon taste.
 
Ooh I love watermelon. It's out of season now though.
 
@ryanyuyu right - yes, sorry! Oh, the Vogonity!
 
1:14 PM
It's always watermelon season in Jan's brain.
 
What season is it in rene's brain? Or is that ineffable?
 
@ryanyuyu Welcome to globalization, watermelons are in season somewhere in the world.
 
@ryanyuyu Your question doesn't make sense.
 
Enough talking of me. Let's focus on the innards of Kyll's brain. Your darkest imaginations, please.
 
Darkest darkest?
 
1:16 PM
Hmm.
How about moving to the Ministry? :)
 
Sure, there wasn't much moderation going on. Moving along, folks.
 
plop @Kyll
 
@AndyK Plop!
 
How's our newest spearrel RO doing @Kyll? :p
 
Hey Jon
Have scooby snacks been withheld from you recently?
 
1:18 PM
whistles
 
Some of my flags have been sitting for 3 weeks
 
@JonClements He keeps ploping off :(
 
well done @Kyll (fireworks!!!)
 
@Magisch Mine has been over a month. Mod queue must be full.
 
Maybe time for another election
 
1:20 PM
No plans right now per meta
 
How far in advance are they announced?
 
Smoke Detector is invaluable for that kind of post :o
 
@JonClements Not really feeling the change, actually. I guess it'll be highlighted if drama ever goes on =p
@AndyK Thanks =D
 
If I get elected as a moderator, I promise I will look at the state SO is in, realise I still can't do anything about it, weep silently and shoot myself dead.
 
@JanDvorak you probably shouldn't run then.
 
1:21 PM
@Magisch No idea. They evaluate like ever quarter if I remember so I guess you would have a little bit of warning
 
I guess...
 
Let's have some fun with @Yam? :P
 
@Magisch the existing team discuss it with the CMs
 
@JonClements o/
 
I may or may not want to run in the next one, even if just for the experience it will give me :D
 
1:22 PM
@JanDvorak can I risk a lol?
 
we've just had a lot of people off / otherwise busy / other human life things...
 
> They know what is what,
> But they don't know what is plop,
> They just strut.
> What the plop ?
 
@NathanOliver they did have several moderators on vacation but that was during summer
but yes, SO could use another 5 or 6 mods
 
@AndyK Feel free, actually
 
1:23 PM
I guess the mods feel differently.
 
When they feel that they need help, they'll call an election. Until then we'll just have to deal with some longer flag times
 
we need mods in the php and java tags and one or two who are online in UTC+8/UTC+9 timezones
 
But then again, three weeks handling time for any piece of tricky spam is a pretty bad deal
 
Most of my outstanding flags are for sockpuppets
But I have a whole nother list of sockpuppets here that I wanted to flag but have to wait until the current ones clear
 
Why so?
 
1:27 PM
Undo specifically told me not to drown them in sockpuppet flags
:p
 
So, mods know they can't handle their duties, and they think it's okay?
 
I wouldn't say that me digging through old potential sockpuppets constitutes their primary "duty" to handle
 
@JanDvorak some stuff can wait a bit... there's a load handled that you'll never see a result from that sometimes isn't even flagged for intervention...
 
Roger that, thanks.
 
1:29 PM
I'm fine waiting for it, these sockpuppets have survived for more then a year, another few weeks will be okay until they get the boot. I was just curious since all my mod flags usually got handled within an hour to a day.
 
I'd still like spam flags with text input for the tricky cases.
 
if we're not doing our "duty" by letting trash onto the site then yeah, we're failing, but other stuff... well... it can be reversed later
the number of mods is always fine a balance - too few isn't great - too many isn't great either
 
What are the downsides of too many mods?
 
@JanDvorak Dog fights
 
@JonClements Whats a bit though? I mean I have flag out for over a month and it is time sensitive. If it is not caught in 3 weeks then there is nothing a mod can do about it.
 
1:32 PM
@JanDvorak Who will spam then?
 
But then again, SO isn't exactly drowning in spam, I admit.
 
@JonClements What actually slightly miffs me is that I flagged something because someone had posted their credentials on a post. You're supposed to flag that since mods can edit the revision. But now its been more then a day so I doubt it'll be any use.
 
That nothing can be done about closeworthy questions getting bountied is worse.
 
@NathanOliver that's why we're trying to get better tooling/priotisation in place for the mod tools (see Brad's numerous posts on that) and hopefully some other stuff as well...
 
@JonClements Im curious to that. Since we surely have enough capable people on SO to have 50 mods or more, what would be the downside of that?
 
1:34 PM
@JonClements I agree on that front.
One downside I can think of is that more mods = bigger chance one of them goes nuts.
 
@Jan huh!? That's a prerequisite for being a mod anyway... going mad with power however is not :)
 
@JonClements That would help. At least you could handle the things that need to be handled now, and get to the rest as time allows.
 
JAL
Hi everyone, back from Berlin
 
If we just introduce slow mod flags + fast mod flags as a decision for flaggers, expect a lot of outcry about people disagreeing with mods about what can wait and what cannot.
 
@JAL Plop!
 
JAL
1:36 PM
@Kyll Plop! Congrats again on RO
 
Thanks =D
 
@JanDvorak Also - don't forget every mod likes to step away now and then...
 
@JonClements I've been a mod on minecraft forums for over a year and a half in the past
It was ... wearing me down
But I'd imagine you deal with less annoyance and fewer death threats here
 
On the same note, I'm currently taking a break from Charcoal
 
Bye @Jan.
Bye @Jon.
 
1:40 PM
Don't worry, i intend to come back
 
@Magisch oh we've had plenty of those :)
 
Ha ha ha...
 
@JonClements Try at least 3 a day
@JonClements When you're dealing with banning hundreds upon hundreds of petulant children daily you can imagine the amount and the type of backlash you get
 
again plop -_-
 
@Magisch a day!? Sounds like a holiday to me
 
1:41 PM
wasnt rene supposed to kick kyll for saying plop
 
@JonClements Then again, you'd know :p
 
@ColdFire Nope.
 
@PraveenKumar keep comments in English please?
 
@Kyll where is the flower when you need him :(
 
@JonClements Okie.
 
1:43 PM
@PraveenKumar Soon HeatDetector will be equipped with a Language detection algo, So am sure that your comments will be caught if you dont ;)
 
dark incantations @rene from the depths of Helheim I beckon Thee. Bring the petals and put an end to the plop mysterious music and swirling lights in drawn runes
 
@BhargavRao Ha ha ha... :D
That's a nice idea... Lemme start writing the code for that. Starting from my way of analysing posts.
Let it be Mist Detector not Heat Detector. Meanings change.
 
If the worse the new RO @Kyll does is "plop" now and again... I'm not overly worried... but having said that, where's my kick button :p
5
 
@JonClements I'm sure you can kick and ban as mod in chat
 
@Magisch oh wow!? I never knew that :p
 
1:45 PM
@JonClements click the username -> actions
 
@PraveenKumar lol
 
I thought @Kyll is only throwable. Is he kickable too? :P
 
@JonClements Sounds unreasonable to me o.o Why would a mod be able to do that?
 
@JonClements on the right i guess
 
@PraveenKumar Well, I never was
 
1:46 PM
@Kyll You are throwable right? :D
 
@PraveenKumar yes
 
@PraveenKumar That I have been
 
Good. :D
 
@Kyll you feeling the love here?
 
@Kyll You still are o.o
One doesn't simply change a Kyll at runtime.
 
1:47 PM
rewrites and pushes @Kyll code:
extremely_private Kyll extends Throwable, Kickable {
 
@PraveenKumar compiles and run
 
git push -f prod && bundle exec run
 
@JonClements Sure am =D
 
Kyll is so private only he himself has access to his throw functionality
 
morning!
 
1:49 PM
wait then others wont be able to throw kyll, mag
morning gunr
 
@Magisch Since the modifier extremely_private was done by me, I have made it in such a way that all the ROs, Mods, and local Praveen has access. (That's just like our Local @Sam).
 
indeed
 
Hey @gunr :)
 
only kyll can throw kyll
 
he has all method public
throwable and kicakable
 
1:51 PM
Let's extend like this: extremely_private Kyll extends FootBall {
 
@Magisch and jon skeet
 
@Kyll Just didn't kick the poor old puppy :(
 
@JonClements old puppy
InvalidSpeechException
 
coughs, then whistles
 
2:00 PM
thoughts on this question? stackoverflow.com/questions/39875853/… not sure if it's off-topic or not
 
seems on-topic, but other close reasons might still apply
 
by off-topic I mean 'all possible close reasons'
 
@TylerH No MCVE. There's multiple loading strategies in HTML, without code we're just guessing. Commenting.
@TylerH Jon'ed
OP seems motivated, looks like a nice Yam candidate
@TylerH Jon'ed again
 
re-jon'd
new term in the SO vocabulary: ReJondered
when Jon Clements closes a question, then re-opens it only to close it again for a different reason
sightings are very rare and earn you a badge
only robots can get it, so naturally a couple human users will have it by the end of the day
the badge is gold if the question is tagged
 
2:06 PM
I want my badge =(
 
Badger badger badger badger
 
@Magisch Ist Helheim in der nähe von Heidelberg?
 
MUSHROOM MUSHROOM
 
but there's a SNAKE, there's a SNAKE!
 
@rene Its the mystic nordic hell described in World of warcraft
 
2:10 PM
@rene isn't that the zeppelin that blew up
 
Nein, das war die Hindenburg
 
@rene Have you recovered from your nightmare corruption?
 
I haven't even recovered from the Anniversary Update!
 
@rene(setLang("en-us"))
 
@Magisch keine blasse Ahnung
 
2:13 PM
Plop
 
@rene setLang("EN-gb")
2
 
OK
 
:D :D :D
 
not spam but still garbage right, for SD?
so it would be sd f?
 
naa
 
2:14 PM
Dangit Jan!
 
oh yeah forgot about that one :V
 
@JanDvorak sudo setlang "en-us" >:-D
 
@TylerH You are not on the list of sudoers. This event will be logged.
 
spooky
 
Is it soo-doo or soo-doh?
 
2:17 PM
soo-doh
 
@JanDvorak I speak for the trees. I'm not afraid of no stinkin' logs
 
It stands for superuser do... so soo-doo?
 
i prefer sudoh
because it reminds me of sudowoodo :V
 
@AndrewL. substitute user or bust
 
So Duh
 
Soda?
 
Sudowoodo
 
Soodoowoodoh
 
Let's change the topic, shall we?
 
Wh... why?
 
2:19 PM
Waffles and Apples
 
Here, take this new chew toy
 
Idli and Dosa
 
Arf
 
Jigglypuff!
 
@JanDvorak that pending edit tho
high quality
 
2:22 PM
A+
 
reject3d
 
link pls
 
@JanDvorak best js library
 
it was literally changing a lower case to an upper case c.
 
@Seth it was just a suggestion to capitalize code.jquery to Code.jquery in the title and nothing else
 
2:23 PM
Noice.
 
is code.jquery the formal name?
 
no, it's a URL
code.jquery.com
and also even if it were, it was a pending edit on a question with many more problems and a question that was closed
both of which are supercedant reasons to reject an insubstantial edit
 
I know how to solve that issue :V
 
the gnat list (top code block) links on meta, if you scroll up to the question level, many are at close vote 4 now. If someone new can do a sweep
 
see ya
 
2:38 PM
@Drew just did that
 
cool thx
 
@Drew those are answer link? what has to be done flag as VLQ?
 
@ColdFire no, the questions for those answers
 
I said scroll up to question level
 
VTC the questions that are close-worthy is probably what he's asking, since he referenced 4 CVs on them
 
2:46 PM
OHH OK
 
these questions come from a time when i wasnt even a software developer o.O
 
Tuna has a script to auto fix the top and bottom code blocks on meta for a refresh
 
\o/ my robot-badge meta broke +100
 
nice adriaan
 
got the opinion based one
i have one post i am truly proud of on meta
it involves hats
 
2:55 PM
This room seems terribly on-topic right now.
5
May I divert your attention to . . . trump.frost.works
 
Yet another Markov generator based on a trending person relevant only in USA. Booring.
 
what a weird url
 
But yes, the URL is nice.
 
@Compass but it works ...
Huehue :)
 
yeah works
 
2:58 PM
This is far better: quickmediasolutions.com/flack
 
@JanDvorak What wont be boring is when he wins and Armageddon starts.
 
@JanDvorak Trump is very important to me. I would've had 63.5% less laughs for the past few days if it weren't for him.
 
@Liam He wins the "Noticed the Easter Egg" gold badge. — Bhargav Rao 5 hours ago
 
@NathanOliver God doesn't need to wait for Trump to win
 
@NathanOliver Choosing between aids and cholera isn't the easiest choice :| I don't envy the U.S.-american citizen one bit :p
 
3:01 PM
@BhargavRao I'd rather have the T-shirt :p
 
@olaf that was pretty funny. Edited out tags of a deleted question at -22
 
I believe cholera makes you die in great pain and with breathing difficulty. No, thanks.
 
lol
 
@Drew: If that was meant seriously, I don't get the joke. If meant ironic: I don't see where editing was not correct.
 
the sign of a true perfectionist
 
3:06 PM
Or of someone who is a bit slow on the uptake sometimes. (I actually noticed the -22 after my edit ;-)
 
@Adriaan Ask Nick, He may give you :D
 
@BhargavRao hmm. Begging would not help my case I guess. I think I'll just let it be and be surprised when they do send it
 
Err, Asking != Begging. But yeah, Better be surprised than disappointed :D
 
@Drew another one for your hammer ^^
 
@Shadow thx. SOBotics pings us. Heard it there
 
3:21 PM
meta.stackoverflow.com/q/335792/3933332 The irony here is real :p
 
@Rizier123 big fan of meta questions that are subject the the action they discuss :P Duplicate, closed, flagged etc...
 
3:38 PM
@Seth Yeah. It's rough
 
3:55 PM
Bye all.
 
@BhargavRao bye \o
 
bye
 
It's nonsense
 
3:59 PM
Meeh political stuff... "Yes Democratic Party" almost spam? spam nuked
 
I hope they dont stick together as a group
 
4:24 PM
waffles
more waffles
 
@Adriaan YES
 
@Yam Has two reopen votes already
@Yam cc @PraveenKumar What do you think now?
 
@Yam commands
 
Yam
commands       - Prints this beautifully formatted message.
stats          - Displays the number of posts being watched.
opt-in         - You will receive pings for questions you have
                 issued a cv-pls request on or voted to close.
opt-out        - Disables the above feature.
watch <id/url> - Manually adds a (closed) question to the
                 watch list (you can pass the post's ID or URL).
help           - Pretty self-explanatory...
alive          - Checks if I'm still running.
 
4:30 PM
@NathanOliver what does the "cc" in your message mean to yam?
 
something copy, holdover from email
 
@dorukayhan like an email, cc == carbon copy. It was my way to ping praveen but let him know it is linked to the yam report.
 
I always pronounce it in my head as "cardboard copy", then go "no that can't be it"
 
The good old email days :)
 
Aye :P
 
4:32 PM
@Undo Speaking as someone who actually used carbon copies I keep it straight ;)
 
@Tunaki it's funny how much of the first computer terminology is office related. Recycling bin instead of of Trash to communicate that the memory is freed up and reusable. Folders and files. Even "Desktop" which can have a bunch of scattered files and other junk on it. Just like my desk at work.
 
@ryanyuyu Using common terms makes the new experience less frightening.
 
exactly. And friendly icons. Like floppy disks and paperclips.
 
I hated the talking paper clip
 
@NathanOliver It looks like you are trying to slam clippy, would you like some help?
 
4:43 PM
@NathanOliver is it weird that I learned about typical office setups from the icons and terminology on my PC? And not the other way around?
 
@AlexanderO'Mara Feel free to slam clippy.
@ryanyuyu Not sure. Do you think it is weird?
 
Just a bit. Anachronisms usually feel weird. Like "dialing" a phone number.
 
@ryanyuyu Well phones used to have an actual "dial" on them. Ever use a rotary phone?
@Drew The roomba will get it.
 
@NathanOliver only in museums.
 
This was way more annoying than clippy: howtogeek.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/01/…
 
4:47 PM
Really?!? Those were fun to use. Took a little while to dial a number though.
 
Oh and those plastic toys.
Those were fun.
 
What is a "clippy"?
:-))
 
really unhelpful office assistant.
 
@ryanyuyu No, that's Kyll. I have yet to get a cup of coffee I asked for yesterday.
 

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