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1:01 AM
meh, missed the room meeting again, but the summary is really good
thanks whoever compiled that (I'm guessing @gunr2171?)
 
Probably. He moderated the meeting
And Kyll is our new lord and master RO
 
1:47 AM
wouldn't bother reading that ^
take it from someone who wasted 5 plus minutes at it
 
2:05 AM
@tripleee you talking about the one on the socvr.org site? That was tuna
so major props to him
 
@gunr2171 ok, thanks for updating, and props to @Tunaki indeed
 
: )
 
2:21 AM
@Machavity for a second I thought you wanted to close a meta question with 215 upvotes ;)
 
@AndrewL. Edited for clarity. Script just dumps it
 
@Machavity I think the link is fine, maybe say, [tag:cv-pls] [tag:php] see [link to meta], [question]
 
I just removed the link. Was using a canned response
 
Ahh, mk
 
3:03 AM
Anybody used a Raspberry Pi here before?
 
Ehh, not much but a bit?
Also, this is off topic because it's math right?
 
@AndrewL. to power it did you use a mobile power chord or a adapter provided?
 
@AshishAhujaツ I used the provided adapter
Not sure a phone cord is a good idea
 
@Queen that's an exact duplicate of an earlier question by the same OP, should I flag it?
 
@AndrewL. I currently have two books on Raspberry Pi, and both of them say using a mobile chord is alright.
 
3:06 AM
Queen responds to complex sentences like that @tripleee?
@AshishAhujaツ well then go ahead. I've seen some with USB phone chargers, just was never completely sure if it was safe
 
@tripleee Don't flag. CV as dupe. If OP asks same question again, then flag. Also, comment on the post not to ask same question again.
 
@AndrewL. it mentions a micro-usb mobile chord. Just wanted to confirm whether I should buy a adapter or not
 
@AndrewL. no, it's just to get the chat links to work
 
Oh
@AshishAhujaツ It's fine, just check the voltage, make sure it's the same as the provided.
 
yeah, it's 5V and 700mA which is what it is in the book
should be fine I guess then
 
3:12 AM
Yeah
 
3:38 AM
^^^ Also off topic!
 
@AndrewL. IMO yes
 
Looking for recommendations. I should've closed as off topic but I've already CV'd.
Also has a sorta iffy answer
Seems a bit like spam considering promoting their own site...
 
4:22 AM
May be a better Java dupe for that ^
 
4:43 AM
Thanks
^ Literally asks what strings are used for
 
erm, what's the relationship between mathoverflow.net and math.stackexchange.com?
 
I was just about to ask that^
@tripleee Math.SE's site description mentions being a QnA site for math questions of any level. MathOverflow mentions being a forum about researched-based math questions
 
@tripleee @AndrewL.:
in Charcoal HQ on The Stack Exchange Network Chat, Jul 31 at 11:35, by wythagoras
@AshishAhujaツ math.SE is for all math questions (as long as they show proper context). mathoverflow should only be used for research questions. (In other words, homework is off-topic there. Interesting/hard questions from graduates (or even undergraduates) can be on-topic, as long as they are research-level)).
 
I'm not sure why they went with forum when it seems to be the same format
Ahh
 
4:47 AM
So I kind of was right?
Thanks @AshishAhujaツ :)
 
@AndrewL. yup
np :)
a Lost Mind sneaks in
 
Hello @TheLostMind :)
knew it. Someone is running two accounts asking very similar questions
I thought I had deja-vu. The questions are the exact same basically. CV as dupe?
Oh. I can't. A dupe target has to have an upvoted or accepted answer?!
 
@AndrewL. - Yes. You are rightie
:)
 
so, flag?
 
I misclick-cv'd ^
 
4:56 AM
@AndrewL. That's SPAM
 
@TheLostMind is it considered 'legal' or OK to have multiple accounts?
For the purpose of questions?
 
@AndrewL. it's basically okay as long as they don't interact, but posting duplicates of existing questions is abuse in its own right
 
@AndrewL. yes it is, unless the accounts vote on each others posts. I also have another account for my bot
 
@Tushar you may be right, but not completely sure
 
Check user name and profile
 
4:57 AM
@Tushar ahh, I see. I need to check that more often
 
@AndrewL. - Yes. As long as they don't interfere with one another's activity or cross vote
 
@tripleee yeah, thought so. @AshishAhujaツ I mean, as in asking exact dupes because their old question on alternate account did not get a satisfactory answer
 
that is abuse
 
@TheLostMind but in this case it's abuse right?
 
@AndrewL. - Yes
 
5:00 AM
Ok. Mod flag or...?
 
@AndrewL. I raised a mod flag, not sure if it's productive to add more
 
Ok, I won't do another
 
@AndrewL. Went with Gen. Computing
 
@Tushar not sure what nodexl is, but aren't questions regarding IDEs and such on-topic?
 
5:31 AM
Do we need to do !!/report on spam manually or is sd k enough?
 
@AndrewL. I don't understand your question
 
Rob
@AndrewL. !!/report is just manually broadcasting the message
 
Oh.
 
!!/report registers a post with Smokey and thus causes it to be posted here by Smokey
 
Gotcha
smokey also picks up edits?
 
Rob
5:40 AM
I go away for a few months, come back
and wingding is still at it
that's dedication
 
the other deleted answer there from a few minutes back looks like wingding as well -- was the user deleted before the answer, or is the MO changing?
 
@tripleee - Mods took care of it
 
Rob
What does 'bojiter' mean anyway? Google yields no answer
 
@TheLostMind I was looking at the user23409234 name there and thinking this looks exactly like Wingding, but without the trademark user name -- are you saying this happened because mods deleted the user first?
 
I deleted one post and account before smokie posted it here.. The other might have gone the same way
Yes. Martjin took care of the other one
 
5:45 AM
@TheLostMind ack, thanks for checking
 
@Rob "bojite" brings up a mineral and (I think) a Bosnian verb having to do with being frightened (I think)
 
Rob
Hmm, okay
thanks :)
 
@SmokeDetector vandalism reverted
 
@Rob he/she never stops. I actually applaud them for trying so hard
 
5:52 AM
dedication, perseverance . I wish they spent the same time and energy on something constructive
 
Yeah
I'm out for the night, bye!
 
Good morning
Morning @rene
 
ola
 
JAL
6:21 AM
Hey all, sorry I have not been active, been in Germany since Friday. Flying back from Berlin to NY today
going to try to do some damage on the iOS tag, but then I'll hit up Closey's tags
 
@JAL How are you liking berlin?
 
JAL
I am sorry I missed the room meeting
Hey @Magisch, it's a great city. Only been here once before for a day, it was nice to spend some time here
I stayed at Bikini Berlin 25hours hotel. It's a really hip place
 
6:59 AM
@Kyll is the new RO congrats blob kyll
 
Congrats @Kyll .. Lets hope that we will have more spearrels running around in SOCVR
 
no...................................................
 
that ^
 
@rene - but... spearrels love flowers
 
7:15 AM
sure, sure ...
 
Anyway, you are the RO, so you have the prerogative to decide the number of spearrels that can be in this room :)
 
there should be a rule for no of spearrel in room and that should be only one that is kyll the plopper
 
@TheLostMind enough is enough ;)
 
lol
 
Hey
Any CSS guys here?
 
7:35 AM
@Magisch More or less.
 
@Magisch just put your html in a table and set the width on it in pixels and be done with it
 
@rene I have <table width="500px" style="border:1px solid #5ba6cb;" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0">
I have to rewrite that so it doesn't confuse the thunderbird parser
 
you're doomed
 
Basicly I have to find a different way to set the border style of the table
 
wrap it in a div and set the border on that one?
 
7:37 AM
won't work
 
confirmed that you're doomed
 
@rene It somehow decimates style="border:1px solid #5ba6cb;" into style="border:" 1px="" solid="" #5ba6cb;=""
And I have no clue why
 
style="border-width:1px; border-style:solid; border-color=#5ba6cb;"
 
Lemme try that
 
But @PatrickHofman responded with more or less let's see what that means ;)
 
7:41 AM
@rene That gets mangled into style="border-width:1px;" border-style:solid;="" border-color="#5ba6cb;"
 
can you add a style tag in the head?
 
@rene That means that you are probably right and I hate all those render engines...
 
Get rid of the spaces after the semi colons?
 
@rene In theory
 
Ah. ^^^ - That's why I NEVER touch CSS..
 
7:43 AM
@PatrickHofman yeah, once you conformed to the spec, you're left guessing why it doesn't work.
 
Plop!
 
@Magisch try if it holds in reality
 
Hiya
 
Assuming I have table {
background-position: bottom;
}
 
Thanks @TheLostMind @Magisch @ColdFire @πάνταῥεῖ =D
 
7:44 AM
How do I replicate what I have in the table with that? just add: border:1px solid #5ba6cb;?
 
@Kyll wait you said no plopping again in the messages?
 
@Magisch yes
 
@ColdFire Not in italics!
nuances
 
10 hours ago, by Kyll
I will only do this once, ever, I promise:
 
the Plop is immortal
 
7:45 AM
@ColdFire I'll kick him soon
 
oh yes
 
and here i thought the plop virus is coming to an end
next meeting discussion : ban the word "plop" in here
 
@rene Now its working but now all the tables in the mail have that border
Guess now's a good time as any to learn about classes
 
@ColdFire I'll vote for that, including trains
 
@rene Okay so do I get a veto as RO?
 
7:47 AM
@rene nice gonna add that to the discussion
 
@Magisch yes, you can add table.myname in the style and then in then <table class="myname">
 
@Kyll You get half a vote
 
@Adriaan I said it out loud yesterday, let me add this here as a note: Screw you =p
@Tunaki Half a veto?
 
@rene +1
 
@tripleee your name is a letter train
 
7:49 AM
choo choo
 
@rene I solved it by doing .thunderbirdisannoyingandbrokemytablecss { border:1px solid #5ba6cb; }
 
@Magisch that will work
 
@rene Thank you :3
 
\o/ plop getting banned
 
7:52 AM
There is one thing worse then css
It is having to feed css through a broken undocumented parser
 
@Kyll hehe, I knew you would :p
 
Jesus christ thunderbird does awful things to my html
 
@Magisch that is an email reader right?
 
@rene Its an email program we use
Everyone in our company sends and reads mail with it. (Delivered by our mailserver)
 
you might want to use HTML3.02 as a reference
 
7:59 AM
My task is to add some functionality to our main app to automatically compose and adress emails to certain people, so people don't have to do it by hand
 
@Magisch look here and cry 9029 tears
 
@rene I'll just make this work however I can and exorcise myself later
 
@rene can I request Våffeldagen (Waffle Day) to be put in the official SOCVR celebratory calendar?
5
 
@Adriaan we'll have a vote by stars ...
 
@rene fingers crossed
 
8:17 AM
What's wrong with being a robot? — Community ♦ Jan 4 '13 at 22:35
Lol
 
Morning o/
 
o/
 
@Kyll Congrats! :)
 
Hey Seth
 
@Tunaki Hey Tuna :>
 
8:31 AM
would this be on-topic on SF?
 
Waffles and Idli.
 
Hiya Praveen!
 
Questionception ^
Hola Tuna!
Gawd, that's an image posted as a code! :(
 
9:12 AM
What just happened?
 
Chaos.
 
That will do
 
yay 4.7k rep
only 300 needed for 5k
 
and at 5k you get .... privilege to approve tag wiki edits ... yeah
 
@Seth Thanks =D
 
9:18 AM
@rene 5163 now I can ... review more types of suggested edits
How underwhelming :p
 
@Tushar this looks like one of those "don't know enough English to communicate" cases
 
Is this off-topic here or not? stackoverflow.com/q/39848259/993547
 
9:37 AM
@Tunaki Is this a simple NPE-dupe?
 
@Seth hmm could be, but I'd prefer no MCVE her
 
the in stream to load properties is null.
 
The heck is a.a.b.m.d?
 
Someone who does not know how to name packages
 
@Tunaki Something from the depths of the "DO NOT DO THIS"-hell...
Shudders
 
9:42 AM
I'm thinking it's more obfuscated code
 
at a.a.b.m.a(Unknown Source)
Looks like standard obfuscator output to me @Tunaki @Seth
 
yep
 
There is a pattern to that naming, yet nobody would willingly name that way unless it was supposed to be obtuse
 
waffles
 
Now, does the question itself need any treatment from us?
 
10:01 AM
@Sotirios if you have a bit of time, contested dupe closure here stackoverflow.com/q/39848900/1743880 I'd like your opinion
afk
 
...
 
10:22 AM
:33259684 k
 
10:46 AM
Weird question...
Whaat???
I have a Virus which always open a website and that sucks so i want to redirect this to this site which close automaticly.... — Simon B 35 secs ago
This guy starts blabbering...
I already have a tool that redirects but that is also shit cause I were a half hour away from my PC and had 10 new Tabs.... — Simon B 21 secs ago
 
11:00 AM
Morning
 
11:22 AM
@PraveenKumar not really, it is a question in Thai
 
@tripleee Who knows Thai.
 
@PraveenKumar I don't, but it's not spam
 
@tripleee By a 1 rep user.
 
@PraveenKumar definitely NAA-worthy but you left a spam comment there
 
11:25 AM
@tripleee LoL.
 
Morning
 
@NathanOliver Afternoon!
 
Evening
 
Woot
Kyll is now a RO? zomg
 
@kayess The infinite Kyll comes
 
11:37 AM
Wow!!!
throws @Kyll on @Magisch and @kayess!
runs off
 
@PraveenKumar You can't throw kyll anymore
he is your boss now
 
Break the rules!
Break @Kyll!
 
I see I have another minion. :)
 
Congrats @Kyll :O
 
11:44 AM
Do delete/undelete votes age away?
 
@NathanOliver no
 
Kyll making friends with RO's now...
 
\o everyone
 
Hiya first
@kayess nice
 
Hello @FirstStep :)
 
Ey :)
long time no see @AndrewL.
 
12:54 PM
o/
 
o/
 
just 28 difference
 
This is just great
 
soon i will be ahead of you \o/
 
My employer has aquired the notion that employees now need to pass background and drug screens yearly
>_>
 
12:56 PM
@Magisch seems a bit frequent for a background check
though normal for drug screens
 
I'm not taking anything so it will never escalate beyond a minor annoyance, but what business of theirs is it if some dev in IT is high on weekends
 
@Magisch well is it illegal?
and is it damaging to their health?
 
@TylerH Possession of cannabis is illegal. Consuming is not.
And - according to many studies regarding consumption of that substance - it's less damaging than alcohol.
 
I know the laws are different in Germany but it seems reasonable to expect in Germany you also have a right to know if your employees are participating in illegal actions that could cause you difficulty if they were to be arrested for it
 
ô.o
 
1:00 PM
@TylerH Owning above a certain amount is a minor misdeameanor (the german equivalent of it), and owning a massive amount can escalate into a proper misdemeanor, but jail terms are for repeat offenses.
 
does Germany have individual healthcare or single payer?
 
Being high and or smoking itself is not a crime
@TylerH Single payer unless you opt out of it in which case you then have private insurance
But to opt out you're typically paying significantly more
 
@Seth sure but cannabis isn't the only drug tested for
 
Guys lets not have the Illegal substance talk in the room. If you want to debate it please do it in a side room.
 
it's more a law discussion really...
 
1:02 PM
@NathanOliver Is moaning about unreasonable employers ok or should we take that elsewhere too?
 
I suppose rene would not like us talking about burning his distant cousins...
 
@NathanOliver We're basically talking about an employer taking - arguably - unreasonable steps. o.o
@TylerH True. We also dry them before... >.<
 
@Seth That I do not mind but lets not talk about which drugs are better or worse for you.
 
Meh. IANAL, but that has got to be illegal somehow seing as even the central bank wasn't allowed to do a background check until you had a lv.2 security clearance.
 
morning
 
1:03 PM
@Magisch if you think it is illegal, consult a lawyer about lawsuit options :-)
 
I got literally nothing on my record but still
 
they will quickly tell you if it is legal or not
(I'm betting it is)
 
@TylerH I'm ... not in a position to sue my employer at all
Even if I did and won it would end badly for me
 
you don't have to actually sue them
just visit a lawyer and ask
some probably even have free consultations
 
So what do I do then when it turns out it is illegal
They're already doing some certainly not legal stuff and nobody can do anything about it without some unpleasant consequences
 
1:05 PM
Bring it up to your equivalent of the Labor Review Board if management does not listen.
 
@NathanOliver Oh, sorry, that wasn't supposed to be part of the discussion, it was meant as a sidenote. Won't do again :P
 
And then
I'm so hosed
I need them to play nice for another 2 years so I can get my degree
 
@Seth No problem. Just looking out for stuff that might be flagged,
 
@Magisch well in America you could sue your employer with the ACLU or something or probably first talk to your HR department about the legality of it
 
@NathanOliver Ah, I see :)
 
1:07 PM
@Magisch that's a decision you have to make. If you call someone out for breaking the rules they're understandably going to be unhappy about that. It just depends on whether you care more about them playing by the law or about them paying for your education for 2 years
or whatever it is they're doing WRT that
 
@FirstStep :D
 
@Machavity Hmm.. maybe 2 colleagues competing for the fastest question ban? :)
 
@Machavity Hopefully no one dupe closes that.
 
Yeah, just added a comment
 
I can't believe that guy just posted his apple id and password on SO
 
1:19 PM
@Machavity Shouldn't you ping the initial flagger so that he can retract his flag?
 
Just how thoughtless
 
@Magisch Don't think that were his real credentials, eh?
 
@Seth Why don't you go to the link they posted and try
 
@Seth I don't think he flagged (auto-message is different) and mine was the first VTC
 
@Seth And lose some hope in humanity
 
1:20 PM
@Magisch I'll pass :| That's sad.
@Machavity Ahh, okay :] Thx
 
Do we have a moderator in this chat
That can redact the revision
 
Best bet is to flag that @Mag
 
@Tunaki Already did, but the time until the flag goes through is plenty for people to log into his apple account and do nasty stuff
 
True
Good thing we're good people here he says, logging in and starting a million dollars transfer
 
@Tunaki Just to notice that someone else was quicker ...
:-)
 
1:30 PM
A million dollars of apple genius bar appointment store credit
 
1:43 PM
HNQ on the sidebar "How to deal with a very weak student?" I wanna comment "get them to pump some iron"
 
@TylerH Do it!
 
@TylerH Or "Send them to Hans and Franz" ;)
 
@NathanOliver Hans?
 
@NathanOliver Franz?
 
@ColdFire Yep. Hans and Franz
 
1:51 PM
Whaaaat happened?
 
@PraveenKumar deleted by OP
 
RIP @hintjens twitter.com/hintjens/status/783254242052206592 If you guys might know him
 
Ah okay... :D
@kayess What ***** is this?
 
@PraveenKumar Probably realized it was wrong. Edited it to xxxx... and then deleted it.
 
@NathanOliver LoL
 
1:52 PM
@PraveenKumar read up on him..
 
@kayess He's got so many followers... :(
 
@kayess Who is that ô.o
 
Cancer! :( Sheesh!
 
@Seth A really great software mind
This is the best about his IT related life: hintjens.com/blog:125
 

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