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12:04 AM
@QPaysTaxes: unclear or too broad. Actually he does not ask a a specific question
actually, an assignment was 10 .name = object
But that's what you have to live with in such stack-oriented languages.
You have to die one dead or the other.
objectwould be some class-object with an e.g. integer member .name.
 
@QPaysTaxes Thanks
 
you cannot make a always smoothly readable syntax with such a language.
Not really.
How would you know which object the assign method belongs to?
doesn't work either. How you know assign is a method and which arguments it takes?
And to which object it belongs?
Remember assign is just a name
 
No. assign can be anything. It can be an object. There is no indication from the name where it belongs.
@πάνταῥεῖ: Heavy ride.
@QPaysTaxes: Latin order: left to right. WHich means the rightmost item is the TOS
 
I have to go now; see you tomorrow!
 
12:13 AM
@Olaf Bumpy :D
 
night @NobodyNada
 
@NobodyNada N8
 
@πάνταῥεῖ: yepp
 
@Olaf I missed the roast duck today (yesterday) :( too lazy ...
 
I'm off to bed too.
Night everyone.
 
12:15 AM
@BaummitAugen N8
 
.name actually should push an identifier (special form of string; I'd actually differentiate these two), but yes. No, assign shall be a method of object. I thought you wanted OOP?
nite, Baum!
@πάνταῥεῖ: Yes, sorry I couldn't make it. Just stressed here. Complex state-machines are bitches
@QPaysTaxes So you need to have the object on TOS
@QPaysTaxes I thought I made that clear. It is mostly for better error-checking. Come to think: my example was wrong. We don't mention the member.
So it would be 10 = object
or, with a function-method: 10 .set_to object
Basically, once you have an object name, you pull the NOS which is the method and call it. That pulls its arguments from the stack and pushes any result(s) onto the stack. Things become difficult with temporary results. But that should be manageable in the code.
 
@Olaf It's my dog as well dude :P
 
@πάνταῥεῖ Yes, but you don't get paid for resolving your dog. That thing stresses me
@QPaysTaxes An object does not push anything. But you are right, you need a means to differentiate between push an object and calling its method. Hmm ...
Actually not. Pushing the object could be another method.
.get object
Well, you could define some nice operators instead of identifiers.
That does not work.
You'd have to analy the NOS plus the TOS
 
@QPaysTaxes Isn't that the good ole VB syntax do with X?
@QPaysTaxes No?
 
Having the method TOS and the object NOS would break the stack approach.
Sure you can do it. It is just not straight forward
Sure it ist. 1 2 3 4 makes 4 the TOS
 
12:29 AM
@QPaysTaxes Me probably either regarding to your sides :P
 
anyone here good at derivatvies?
 
@QPaysTaxes Again: I think you wanted OOP
So all "functions" are actually methods, i.e. bound to some object.
@QPaysTaxes But that would actually be the easiest way. Sure, you'd still need some global methods, but those could be mebers of some environment singleton.
And straight-forward. Why make it more complicated? And how would you invoke methods your way?
Well, you can have locals. As I wrote, some global methods, like { or } which create scope and others to define a var in local scope: .name .new class_object
@QPaysTaxes Which object? You have just an identifier/string on TOS. So how you know there is an object on NOS without inspecting it? And how you know this is not an error if there is an object? As you wrote: this is for humans, so you have to anticipate errors in the code.
@QPaysTaxes "object do_something" - that means do_something is the TOS in the first place.
 
> there's a long winded technical explanation that basically ends 'because we can't have nice things'
 
yes, that works for a function +. But not for OOP.
Well, I agree, there must be some way to differentiate betwee pushing something and "executing" (i.e. invoking the methods of) something.
How does the interpreter know append is a method?
@QPaysTaxes It seems not clear what you mean with "word" then. That's a pretty fuzzy term here
You might have noticed I did not use that term.
:-)
So it is a function in the first place.
Better: a name assumed to be a function.
How do you notice it's a method?
And what if there is an object with a method of that name and a global function with the same name?
@QPaysTaxes That's clear (I've done OOPL myself some time ago).
So what if you want the global function, but have an object on the stack, too?
That's my point: the "word" (please find a better name) is TOS, the object NOS. It is actually an implementation detail if you really push it onto the stack structure.
@QPaysTaxes No, that should be allowed!
From my idea, pushing the object invokes the method resolution. That way, you already have the foundation of what you want.
But as I wrote, there has to be a way to differentiate pushing an object (and literals are actually objects, too) and invoking its method.
Simply because that way we avoid the problems. Let's say a token starting with : pushes the corresponding object onto the stack, while without it, it executes it. So forget about that .name syntax. :10 :+ 20 will use the 20 integer object, call its + method which pulls the 10 integer, adds it to 20 and pushes the resulting integer object onto the stack.
@QPaysTaxes Huh, another oral office affair?
@QPaysTaxes sic!
You might be too young for that. Search for this plus Levinski :-)
@QPaysTaxes I don't bite! (well, at least ...:-)
@QPaysTaxes What does that mean actually?
@QPaysTaxes :-)
Ahh, got it. So did you find what I meant?
Funny, the German wikipedia links to the correct article searching for "oral office".
@QPaysTaxes Re the language: Well, it does. Sure, you could go the other way and define an "execute" command: 10 + 20 execute would be a single token). That's likely what you mean. That would push all onto the stack until you say "execute" (better use a symbol for that, e.g. () ). I'm not sure which one is the better approach.
RPNL works the latter way, but uses the operators also to execute. That's fine unless you have OOP. Then things become complicated and potentially ambigous
Thanks, just ignore the missing u. I always confuse these two. In German "ambivalent" does not necessarily have an emotional aspect.
Well, I'll check if my bed's still doing its job. Good night!
 
1:31 AM
@MadaraUchiha does the flag queue have a filter system? i.e is it possible to make the queue show only certain types of flags?
 
Rob
Which flags do you mean? Most flags are handled by the community in different queues
 
@Rob the ones that appear in a queue which only moderators can access, such as spam/rude/abusive flags
 
@shad0wk no
 
 
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3:08 AM
My last CV-PLS looks like spam, check user name & the link
He has used same link in other post as well
Reporting
Same link used in both question which is not related to question/answer.
The question contains no question and contains the code from prev. own post's part of code.
 
3:41 AM
@BrockAdams I think LOAs are answers, but VLQ. Might be wrong
Oh wait
Hmm - seems to suggest LOAs or answers leading to one aren't answers
 
4:03 AM
@AndrewLi refer to meta.stackexchange.com/questions/225370/…. One of the headiest honchos of Stack Exchange says LOA's are NOT answers. It's pretty clearly explained.
But I see, now, that you followed that link AFTER pinging me. ;)
 
@BrockAdams Yeah, sorry :) looks like you're right - NAA
 
Okay. Ciao.
 
o/
 
4:16 AM
^ wall of text alert
 
oh wow, where did all of these smokey reports come from?
 
4:30 AM
@gunr2171 looks like blacklisting that user triggered on many posts of theirs
 
user4639281
I see two reports for the same question, so it was probably edited after it was k'd. After that the only thing from the same user was an answer, which seems very misguided, but still an answer. The other reports are from separate users.
 
@Tushar why not just answer this?
 
@TinyGiant the same user apparently posted the same mega-answer on at least three separate questions
 
user4639281
Ah
 
4:43 AM
@tripleee Yeah. And they posted a 'question' with same content
 
@AndrewLi Nothing to explain other than that one-sentence comment
 
(the metasmoke search thing is kind of wacky; it would make sense to present the results above the search fields)
 
user4639281
@Tushar That doesn't make it typo / no repo
 
@TinyGiant We're talking about different post - This
 
user4639281
nevermind me
 
5:03 AM
Can you still give feedback to manually reported posts?
 
Yes
 
Oh, ok
 
@AndrewLi Let's give Smokey time of 1 min to report spam. If Smokey don't report, then manually report it
 
@Tushar Ok, gotcha
 
@Tunaki - That's great. Will take a look at your new api. kudos
 
5:44 AM
sheesh, who upvotes that crap
 
5:58 AM
Good morning
 
o/
 
@tripleee About that email source code from yesterday
If I C&P it from the "show source" part of thunderbird what extension should they file I stuff it in get?
 
@Magisch Yoda in you syntax have?
save to a file is the proper way to go, copy/paste is not generally reliable
I guess the Thunderbird documentation calls this EML format which is slightly unhappy because it means different things in different programs
@magisch or just forward as attachment to 4macfw+6a5kh5a3jp9m8@sharklasers.com
 
6:15 AM
@tripleee Well what I could recover is source code a'la email source code
There is PII in there so I'll have to redact that most likely
This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
Can you do something with that?
 
6:30 AM
@tripleee I sent a copy of the source code as attachment (with some PII redacted) to the email you provided
 
@Magisch yup, I see it, thanks
 
@tripleee Was that useful?
Like, is the source code of any use? I tried saving it as an .eml file but that loses all the encoding and html and transfer type
So the .eml thunderbird puts out contains a lot less info then the "show source" window
 
uh, maybe they changed that
anyway, the important things are the Content-xxx headers and Received: headers and stuff like that
all of which seems to be intact
 
I left the IP adresses alone
So please don't publish that in public if you can avoid it
 
sure, absolutely not
do I have permission to upload to Virustotal, though?
 
6:39 AM
yes
 
thanks, I might end up doing that
 
Its generally ok, I just dont want it to show up in a google search
 
but I'll share internally for the time being
thanks again!
there's just a JPG attachment there, though; I thought you had a .pdf.js?
actually let's move this to a separate room
 
o/
@Yam still no
 
7:01 AM
Plop!
 
Sorry for dumping 2-4 question in a row into the chat here, from time to time. There aren't that many high rep MATLAB users, so questions tend to end up with 2-3 close votes, even when they deserve to be closed.
Hope it's OK :)
I've seen this in the faq: "[cv-pls] should not be a habit for users.", but also this: [except if] "don’t have enough users in that tag to close the post in time", so I'm assuming it's OK?
 
@StewieGriffin As long as it's not a wall of questions, it's fine =)
@StewieGriffin You're responsible for your cv-pls, to reach an abusive behaviour you would really have to try
 
7:20 AM
hiya
 
o/
 
8:09 AM
Hiya
 
Anyone in here good with batch
 
Smokey, He always posts links to questions.
 
@Magisch No, but shoot anyway
 
I need a script to do a very specific thing
 
[cv-pls] Unclear
 
8:13 AM
1. I enter a directory (like C:\testdirectory)
2. It goes through every folder in that directory and deletes all their files and subfolders, but not the folders themselfes
I'm sure its easy but batch is frustrating
 
@Magisch Well, find . -type f -delete in Bash...
 
but I second the recommendation to replace Windows
 
@tripleee You mean you... triple it? puts sunglasses on
 
@Kyll whoa, drrrrumroll splashhh
 
8:20 AM
throws @kyll
 
catches and throws at tuna
tuna drops it and @Kyll land in river and flows away
 
@Kyll Type [tag:cv-pls] instead
 
@xenteros That was no real cv-pls ô.o ..
 
One does not tell Kyll what he should do
*Thunder in the background*
 
one only throws Kyll and not tell him
 
8:34 AM
@Seth oh, sorry, my bad
 
Kyll's profile even says that he is throwable.
> -1515.94% Plop. A Spearrel. Also a very good projectile.
 
haha yeah
implements Throwable
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Q: Previous company name is ISIS, how to list on CV?

KogeshoThe previous company I worked at for 6 months is named ISIS. It was founded way before the terrorist organization of course, and now it is a bad coincidence that I list ISIS as work experience on my CV. I am afraid of this name affecting my future job applications as the name ISIS is associated ...

 
@xenteros Np :D
 
@ColdFire hahahahahaha
 
@Magisch DEL /S C:\testdirectory. Add /Qto get rid of the confirmation prompt.
 
8:41 AM
@Tunaki That just deletes the directory and everything in it
 
@Magisch It shouldn't
 
I want to leave the directory intact, leave the folders directly in the directory in tact, but everything else should go
 
Yep
Just tested
 
@Tunaki Ok, this gets the files, but not the subfolders of the folders
I want only the folders directly in the directory to remain. Subfolders of theirs need to go too
 
It does, there's a second prompt :)
 
8:46 AM
I just tested it
And nested folders remain
I had a directory called c:\test, ran the script with that, but c:\test\folder1\testfolder1 remained
although only c:\test\folder1 should have
 
can't reproduce then
correctly deletes all files leaving folders intact on my Vista :)
 
Its supposed to not leave subfolders in tact
just folders directly in the directory
so if there is a folder called test1 in c:\test\folder1\ it should be deleted
 
ooh
 
@Magisch did you try the answer I linked to?
 
@tripleee does the same as tuna's
I'll try something else
 
9:01 AM
well now that they're empty, just rmdir the subdirectories and create them again :)
 
Morning \o
 
@kayess Plop!
 
@Tunaki That'd mean I have to hardcode the subdir names
 
@kayess blob
 
there are over 1100 of them
 
9:03 AM
@Kyll Hiya \o
 
:(
 
@ColdFire \o
@Tun @Mag o/
 
Basicly I want to iterate through the directory, and for every folder I find I want to iterate and clean any contents of that folder, but not the folder itself.
 
lol
windows is now a bad keyword ?:(
 
hehe
 
9:09 AM
@Magisch Not necessarily. for /D %p IN (C:\testdirectory\*) DO (RMDIR "%p" /S /Q & MKDIR "%p")
hard core but it works
 
lemme try that
 
you see the pattern? our java gold is writing dos batch file :o
next time @2naki will probably write COBOL fillers :>
 
@kayess Still a better love story than Java
 
@Tunaki Syntax error: \testing* cannot be processed at this place
 
@Kyll eww, only VBA is worse I think
 
9:11 AM
@Magisch Forgot a backslash?
 
@Magisch Hmh, got spaces in there?
 
nvm
I'm retarded
 
^ Forgot a backslash.
 
I forgot you need to %% variables when executing from a .bat file
 
ah yes
 
9:12 AM
That actually worked
excellent
 
\o/
 
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@BhargavRao hey that is my technique :(
 
Drew derailed that train
 
9:19 AM
@Magisch alternatively, you can use a double loop instead of deleting and recreating
 
@BhargavRao :(
 
principle is the same
 
@Tunaki This works fine though
 
@Kyll help!!! I am making a website :(((
 
@TimCastelijns he was thrown in water few min back
 
9:22 AM
@TimCastelijns ?????
 
@TimCastelijns ?!
 
@TimCastelijns You poor soul =(
 
@TimCastelijns you're doing it wrong
 
I said yo boss I don't know shit about making websites, he said ok do it anyway
 
9:24 AM
@TimCastelijns use PHP
 
@TimCastelijns Sounds like your boss is a boss
 
@TimCastelijns "Now's a good time as any to learn. Deadline's still in a week tho"
 
@TimCastelijns boss is a troll awww
 
can you guys ping me more please
 
@TimCastelijns can do
 
9:26 AM
@TimCastelijns why would we give you this pleasure?
 
@TimCastelijns sure can do
 
@TimCastelijns yes of course, as you wish
 
@TimCastelijns I certaily don't want to keep pinging you
 
(ノಠ益ಠ)ノ彡
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@TimCastelijns That's the spirit
 
9:27 AM
@TimCastelijns :)
 
@TimCastelijns lol
 
Farming stars eh.
 
Framing star farmers eh.
 
@TimCastelijns lol
 
Faming star farmer framers eh
 
9:28 AM
Faming star farmer framers farmers eh
 
it only works if it makes sense
 
Fading faming star farmer framers farmers eh
 
can someone flag NAA he deleted it then undeleted it stackoverflow.com/a/40104434
 
@Drew yup
 
@Drew yup
(removed) my comment from there.
 
9:34 AM
Should I remove "Hello team"? or it is acceptable? Change Address bar url in angularjs without reloading the page
 
@KhalidHussain meh, just close it
 
@KhalidHussain That question needs more than that
Quotes are unnecessary, grammar, fluff...
 
@Tunaki ok
 
Nope.
 

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