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12:19 AM
\o
 
user3956566
12:31 AM
most of these have at least a couple of closes
 
user3956566
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Q: Is this the end of [code-quality]?

Tiny Giantcode-quality is basically a honey-pot for overly broad questions, opinion based questions, or tool requests. Questions with one or more close votes: How to draw Robert Martin's Abstraction vs. Instability graph in MVC application How to know when some code needs a design pattern? What's the p...

 
@MsYvette I've noticed you've started reviewing! I'll update your session record.
 
user3956566
There are no items for you to review, matching the filter "[code-quality]"
 
user3956566
@TinyGiant all the remaining questions have at least one close vote on them. It looks like it should be an easy job to close the remaining posts today.
 
@MsYvette Oh, I forgot to review them today, I've just voted to close half of that list since I ran of votes. Reviewing...
 
user3956566
^^ there's a list of all the posts that are not closed
 
1:11 AM
@SmokeDetector After Google Translate, smells like spam
 
user3956566
made this post meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/313992/… feel free to edit it, if you think it can be explained better
 
@MsYvette Do you mean to avoid a lot of downvotes ?
 
user3956566
@KevinGuan yeh probably, I'm not good at wording things in a way that meta likes. You're good at that
 
Seems that's a problem, we should let Community♦ to do it.
@MsYvette But I'm not good at English :P
 
user3956566
@KevinGuan hahaha
 
1:23 AM
However, edited to let it be more clear. Whatever, maybe too minor :P
 
user3956566
in skype call g2g
 
user3956566
@KevinGuan thnx I don't mind you editing my postws
 
Ah, I hope I'm a good editor :).
 
user4639281
2:09 AM
Only two more unclosed questions in
 
user4639281
Hi everybody!
 
user3956566
@TinyGiant did you see my answer to your q?
 
user3956566
easy way to do it for next time
 
user4639281
Yeah, I thought about including that in there a few times.
 
user3956566
answer doesn't even need to be updated
 
user4639281
2:11 AM
But when there is 300+ questions open I would rather focus on 40 specific ones.
 
user4639281
Rather than spread it out across the entire 300+ questions.
 
user4639281
Plus, doing the list allows me to edit the question, which bumps it on the active page.
 
user4639281
(shameless bumper)
 
user3956566
@TinyGiant thanks for your help Yvette, that's ok :)
 
user4639281
Lol, no that's great and thanks for all the help.
 
user4639281
2:13 AM
One more question needs one vote.
 
user3956566
I've voted on all unclosed questions soz tiiny
 
i just closed 2
 
user3956566
hi Drew \o
 
hey there
 
user4639281
Awesome, thanks.
 
2:21 AM
Event?
Oh, the Clear the CVQ day!
@Closey stats
 
6,114 need review
208 reviews today
3,036,000 reviews all-time
 
@Closey next 10 tags
 
Refreshing the tag listing. Please wait...
@KevinGuan The next 10 tags are: 50, 44, 36, 33, 30, 29, 29, 27, 26, 25
 
> 37 votes remaining
 
user4639281
I wish I had 10k, then I could filter by delete votes...
 
2:23 AM
I wish I had 10k, then I could see how does Sam eat his hat...
 
user4639281
Event in 2.5 hours eh?
 
Seems so.
 
user3956566
just got the notice yes sir!
 
user4639281
:)
 
user3956566
@KevinGuan that's very mysterious of you K
 
2:24 AM
lol
 
user3956566
I have 28 left, :'( curse you if you exist curse you *Homer Simpsons style
 
Homer Simpsons style? Isn't ? :P
 
user3956566
don't swear at smokey tiny!
 
user3956566
there's no room for the f word in this room, literally, twice literally
 
!!/blame
 
2:33 AM
@KevinGuan It's Ms Yvette's fault.
 
user3956566
smokey does not tell a lie
 
!!/test you can blank my blank
 
> Would not be caught for title, body, and username.
 
user4639281
Oh snap, I can get delete votes from the API even though I can't see them on the site.
 
2:47 AM
Bug, reporting...
Wait, what??? What's antigravity module in Python? import antigravity gives something...@Kyll I'd suggest you try it. It...don't ask me. @TigerhawkT3 @JonClements I lost my brain.
 
user3956566
> I’m cranky. I complain about a lot of things. There’s a lot in the world of technology I don’t like, and that’s really to be expected—programming is a hilariously young discipline, and none of us have the slightest clue what we’re doing. Combine with Sturgeon’s Law, and I have a lifetime’s worth of stuff to gripe about. eev.ee/blog/2012/04/09/php-a-fractal-of-bad-design
 
user4639281
I've updated the code-quality burnination request. All questions are now closed, the locked question has been unlocked, and I have put up a list of questions with delete votes. If any reviewers with delete votes could take a look and review these to the best of their ability, it would be much appreciated.
2
 
user4639281
Could someone star that? ^^
 
3:03 AM
@TinyGiant When I see a post which has Your help is much appreciated or something like that, I always want to click the edit button and remove them.
:P
 
user4639281
@KevinGuan I'm not thanking people in advance for their help, I'm thanking all of those who helped already.
 
@MsYvette Seems like your answer of Tiny's question now is obsolete :)
 
@TinyGiant Just a few remaining
 
@TinyGiant Yeah, I know :P
 
@TinyGiant 4 remaining from the current list
 
user4639281
3:06 AM
Awesome thanks.
 
@TinyGiant Don't have to thank me :)
Why some questions require only 4 delete votes while some require 10?
 
user3956566
@Tushar votes
 
Votes? Views?
 
user3956566
answers votes
 
Okay
 
user4639281
3:08 AM
IIRC it is about the votes on the post being deleted.
 
@KevinGuan Yeah, changed profile pic
but, it takes 1 day to refresh the info
If you notice the rep. in Flair it's yesterdays
 
Why did you change it?
 
@KevinGuan *Advice may be invalid due to caching That's funny
 
user4639281
@Tushar added to the list, there's now 18 with delete votes on them
 
3:15 AM
@TinyGiant On it
 
user4639281
Thanks, brb
 
user3956566
you ahve a nice face why the dickens don't you use it as a pic, It's not like you're ugly like the rest of us :) @Tushar
 
@TinyGiant Most of them are VLQ
@MsYvette @KevinGuan Changing :)
@MsYvette lie
 
user3956566
clap clap clap
 
user3956566
!!/blame
 
3:18 AM
@MsYvette It's Kevin Guan's fault.
2
 
@KevinGuan ^^^
 
user3956566
@Tushar no such thing!
 
@MsYvette pfft, some of us dont want the kind of attention that comes with posting a picture of themselves :p
 
It's your fault
 
user3956566
@cimmanon hahahahahahahaha Yeh it was to stir up some of the people here ;)
 
user3956566
3:20 AM
yr not going to believe this, I posted a meta question, without community consultation and it has drum roll upvotes!
 
last christmas, my mom wouldnt answer her phone and the only way i could find any way to contact my brother was through a dating site >.>
 
user3956566
wha???
 
user3956566
he was so busy on the dating site?
 
i dont have his phone number or email or anything else
 
user3956566
did you pretend to be someone else?
 
3:23 AM
no, i pretended to be myself and used an actual picture of myself. but it was impossible to contact him that way because we are in different countries.
 
user3956566
lol pretended to be yourself.. yeh they do a location search?
 
got a lot of responses to my profile, though >.>
 
user3956566
hahahaha nice
 
geoip
 
user3956566
except your married
 
user3956566
3:25 AM
yep
 
user3956566
when my kids were little (their dad died years ago) they wanted me to get them a new dad, so I looked at a dating site and they were like, pick him, pick him, like it was shopping lol
 
@MsYvette So the girl in your profile pic is your daughter?
 
haha
 
user3956566
@Tushar yep she's beautiful 14 now. my baby, my boys are both getting big big, one is over 6 foot, and one is almost 6 foot
 
user3956566
@cimmanon still makes me laugh
 
3:27 AM
She's cute
 
user3956566
she was 4 in this pic
 
user3956566
she doesn't like me using it
 
@Tushar lol
 
user3956566
and I'm not allowed to comment on any of their fb posts
 
!!/blame
 
3:28 AM
@KevinGuan It's Closey's fault.
 
@Closey Do you agree? ^
 
@KevinGuan Sorry, I don't understand that. Use commands for a list of commands.
 
@MsYvette Updated answer, feel free to rollback or edit
 
user3956566
@Tushar thnx
 
user4639281
3 more deleted
 
user3956566
3:36 AM
@Tushar breathing, I think it would've been better with, let's suffocate the mongrels! LOLOL
 
:D
I'm bad at writing meta posts, can somebody review and update that
 
user3956566
@Tushar it's perfect I am totally teasing you.
 
user4639281
Well, I doubt that any of them will be migrated to code review, being that they are old and inactive.
 
user3956566
@TinyGiant ...?
 
user4639281
Tushar's addition to your answer.
 
3:40 AM
@TinyGiant That's why I said, if useful can be migrated by Mods
 
user3956566
@TinyGiant ....?
 
@TinyGiant Should I remove that
 
user4639281
That's up to you, but I doubt that any would be. For questions to be successful on code review their authors need to be able to respond to comments and answers.
 
@TinyGiant .....?
:P
 
Off-topic with a rude new user - stackoverflow.com/questions/34603712/… (see his comments)
 
3:44 AM
@TinyGiant Those are already answered, so I guess there'll less chances of that, but yes OP should be active
 
@Trevor Wait, I think that question is fine. And the comment isn't rude...but offensive. Flagged.
Possible it's bad, but shouldn't go to Super User.
 
user3956566
@KevinGuan yes K @TinyGiant ...?
 
lol
 
user3956566
@KevinGuan he hates ...?
 
@KevinGuan. ok. I went on the view it's not about programming or the use of a programming tool
 
user3956566
3:47 AM
@Trevor I left a comment Trevor, that was not on, and as you can see have posted cv request
 
user3956566
also the rude comment is deleted
 
@MsYvette Well, isn't telnet a tool which about programming?
 
@MsYvette thanks.
 
user4639281
It's a question about the usage of a programming tool.
 
If that's off-topic, why do we have tag?
 
3:48 AM
ok.
 
user4639281
It is not off-topic, and it isn't too broad. It isn't a great question, but it isn't off-topic either.
 
user3956566
because there are tenet commands that are used with programming
 
user4639281
I don't know about tenet, but telnet can be used as a programming tool.
 
user3956566
hm tiny I think it's one of those borderline questions
 
user3956566
I've used it
 
user4639281
3:50 AM
You missed the typo I pointed out.
 
user3956566
and I think it's something that can be answered in superuser as it stands.
 
Just checked the tag wiki about telnet, sounds like on Windows.
 
user3956566
what typo...?
 
user4639281
tenet !== telnet
 
@MsYvette because there are tenet commands..
 
user3956566
3:51 AM
oh hahahahaha yeh tenet has nothing to do with it lol google.com.au/…
 
user4639281
Anyways, we don't close questions because they are also on-topic somewhere else, we close them if they are off-topic here.
 
user3956566
@TinyGiant yes, did you see that recent post?
 
user4639281
It would probably be on-topic for su, unix, ubuntu, etc. but it is also on-topic here.
 
user4639281
@MsYvette Which one?
 
user3956566
28
Q: Let's do something about "I'm voting to close this question as off-topic because it belongs on…"

200_successBy Stack Exchange policy, "better fit elsewhere" is not a sufficient justification for closing or migrating a question; there actually needs to be a bona fide reason, stated in the Help Center, for the question to be off-topic. Unfortunately, this kind of abuse of custom close reasons is rampant...

 
user3956566
3:52 AM
51
Q: Dealing with code critique requests — isn't "Too broad" too broad?

200_successAn unhelpful Help Center… Questions asking for open-ended suggestions to improve working pieces of code appear to be unwelcome on Stack Overflow, and many such questions do get closed. However, it's not obvious why such questions would be against by the rules. Some excerpts from the Help Cente...

 
user3956566
I've boxed them as they're both pertinent to this room
 
user4639281
So that's about the CR topic, not about the telnet one right?
 
user3956566
yeh so it is on topic
 
user4639281
What is? I'm confused now.
 
user3956566
can you please remove my cv pls for it
 
user3956566
 
user3956566
is on topic
 
@TinyGiant Suggested-edit: ...?
 
user4639281
Ok, so what were those two meta questions in reference to?
 
user3956566
@TinyGiant stop inviting me to the trash can man google.com.au/…
 
user4639281
Hey @triplee how goes it?
 
3:58 AM
Tiny's changing the subject...
 
user4639281
The subject was confusing me, so I changed it.
 
user3956566
you said closing to vote because it's on topic elsewhere is not a reason to close it here if it's ontopic, and I linked you a meta post citing just that
 
Hey :)
 
@TinyGiant I've noticed you've started reviewing! I'll update your session record.
 
user3956566
also there is another recent and relevant meta post about closing reasons that i think we should be aware of @TinyGiant
 
user3956566
4:00 AM
\o intbool
 
ATM, are there any mods here?
 
user4639281
@intboolstring Not active ATM, but there are a few lurking.
 
"Lurking" :)
@MadaraUchiha or @bluefeet or @JonClements: Can you fix the serial down voting on my account? The script fixed 3/4 of the serial down votes, but one DV was left.
 
@TinyGiant Huh, who still remember that 8 steps?
 
4:03 AM
@intboolstring Please don't ping Mods for this, you can flag the post and explain the situation
 
Alrighty. I flagged it
 
And what if the remaining one vote is not from the serial downvoter, it's from other user
 
user3956566
yep and you pinged 3 mods, not a good idea
 
user3956566
a custom flag is a better idea, i do that if I get worried and it's not reversed after the script is run
 
user4639281
@KevinGuan Which steps, what now?
 
user3956566
4:05 AM
@intboolstring the reversal was corrected
 
user3956566
so there's no need to discuss it
 
?
It hasn't been corrected.
 
user4639281
Well, the script ran, and it did what it is supposed to, but it messed up, like it usually does.
 
user3956566
> +6 1 hour ago reversal Voting corrected (learn more)
 
user4639281
4:07 AM
No need to ping a three mods for one downvote, just flag the downvoted post and explain the situation. Mods are usually on it with that, and you'll probably get a quicker response from a flag than from pinging the mods here.
 
@intboolstring Really? Ping 3 mods because 2 rep? One mod even cost less than 1 rep?
 
Yea. I understand now. @MsYvette. it should be +8
 
user3956566
@intboolstring I doubt it, if it was all the same user, you'd probably have +8. So the 4th may have been a different user
 
user4639281
@KevinGuan 3 for the price of 2, didn'cha know?
 
user4639281
@MsYvette That script screws up pretty regularly.
 
4:08 AM
@TinyGiant Well, I forget. Searching...And I think you possible in 4 step.
 
user3956566
trust me, I've been on the site for years, and I used to have someone downvote one post a day
 
@TinyGiant lol
 
user3956566
@TinyGiant 2 points hardly warrants pinging mods, nor even a custom flag
 
user3956566
I've had several downvotes in less than one min and it was missed and nothing was done about it
 
user3956566
as Madara shown me a screen shot once, he had 499 mod flags pending
 
4:10 AM
You have more than 6x the rep I do @MsYvette. This would be like you losing 12 rep
 
user3956566
so save it for the important stuff. That's my advice
 
user4639281
It is a known issue that sometimes the script will miss downvotes at the end or the beginning of a spree, so that it doesn't invalidate real votes.
 
user3956566
@intboolstring it's irrelevant how much, I have been serial downvoted with a lower rep and hard earned rep is hard earned rep.
 
user4639281
It has been suggested by the mods on meta that if it does miss some, you should flag.
 
user3956566
@TinyGiant I'm trying to give some good advice here
 
user4639281
4:11 AM
I know what you're trying to do
 
Alright guys. I think this discussion should really end as it has become very repetitive. Sorry for not following protocol. I have learned something for next time (if this happens again)
 
user3956566
rather than ping the mods, if you must, create a custom flag, but i recommend doing so wisely, as they're people and it's better to keep on the good side with people
 
user4639281
But what you're saying is going against what the mods suggest, though yes I do not think the mods should be pinged here, a flag is good enough.
 
@TinyGiant Okay, so you're at step 6: Bargaining. chat.stackoverflow.com/transcript/message/27518642#27518642
:P
 
user4639281
Lol
 
user4639281
4:13 AM
 
@TinyGiant lol
 
user4639281
That is pretty hilarious.
 
@TinyGiant good morning, you called?
 
user4639281
Hey, I just noticed you come into the room earlier and thought I'd say hi.
 
user4639281
You in for the event in 40 minutes?
 
4:21 AM
@TinyGiant lol
 
user4639281
Also (since you've got delete votes) if you could take a look at this it would be awesome.
 
@KevinGuan netcat is a generalized version of Telnet, yes. Neither command is particularly a Windows command; netcat was very much developed on Unix, and shows a strong Unix heritage
 
@tripleee Agreed! Unix is the best!
 
@TinyGiant too early here to make such plans, I'm a bit surprised if I entered the room before I brushed my teeth
 
user4639281
lol
 
4:24 AM
@KevinGuan I don't disagree, but I was really just stating a fact
 
Does this belong on Wordpress.SE or is it ok here? stackoverflow.com/questions/34604118/…
 
@tripleee Yeah, I know. And also you have bash gold tag badge...fine.
:P
 
telnet is basically the predecessor to ssh but the telnet command was very specifically designed for interactive use, and does odd things when you try to script it. So netcat filled that gap, with gusto
 
Ohhhhhhhh, I remember now! There's also telnet on Unix. And it's basically the predecessor to ssh....
 
user4639281
@intboolstring Too Broad. Remember that we don't migrate crap.
 
4:28 AM
(Too Broad): That would make more sense.
You got it right before me @tripleee
 
@intboolstring yeah, pardon (-:
 
I found that question when clearing Triage. (Something good came out of triage)
 
sigh, can't access to Facebook right now. Seems the hosts for Facebook is broken...But I can still receive Email from Facebook (should I happy that I can still access to Gmail? THANK YOU, OUR WORST GOVERNMENT IN THE WORLD!!!).
 
user4639281
You may not get many votes on your request at the moment because we're having a reviewing event in less than half an hour.
 
user3956566
@TinyGiant omg it's so true!
 
user4639281
4:33 AM
@MsYvette inorite? How's that wordpress going for you?
 
user3956566
@TinyGiant bahahahahahahahahahahha yeh we have a 'php' expert looking at it.. sigh
 
@TinyGiant What do you do during a reviewing event?
 
"php expert" sounds like "voodoo doctor"
 
user3956566
in fact I should be working on it, but I'm here!
 
user3956566
denial
 
user4639281
4:35 AM
brb
 
user3956566
\o
 
@MsYvette So no worries, I've noted that. But seems my browser can't load the JS and CSS on FB, creating an issue on the hosts project and complain that.
 
@KevinGuan Teh Great fireWall of China
 
user3956566
@KevinGuan huh?
 
@MsYvette Facebook
 
user3956566
4:37 AM
@KevinGuan yeh what about it?
 
user3956566
u canna acksess it frum Chinah?
 
user3956566
man @NisseEngström I'm always doing something stupid whenever you arrive here
 
@Tushar tHaNKs fOR MeNtioN It.
 
user3956566
cos I'm always doing something stupid
 
Most of the useful/popular sites are blocked in China
@KevinGuan How did you live
 
user3956566
4:39 AM
@Tushar breathes through his nose, eats food, drinks water
 
@MsYvette Yeah, it's like a superpower.
 
user3956566
hm Amnesty
 
@MsYvette I hsvr no ieda waht yuo'r tlaking aobut.
 
user3956566
@KevinGuan that's ok dear pats on head
 
user4639281
4:41 AM
back
 
@Tushar I'm fine, we have projects which can help us. Without them I even can't visit Google or Stack Overflow.
@TinyGiant wb
 
user4639281
@intboolstring We review the CVQ in a focused manner in order to make as much of an impact as we can.
 
@KevinGuan a hack?
 
user3956566
my website's blocked from
China
 
@Tushar Nah, no one can hack GFW. But we can try to fly over it.
 
4:43 AM
my wife used a VPN when she visited Beijing a year ago and it worked fine
 
@MsYvette Makes sense.
 
no need to go cold turkey on Facebook
 
user4639281
@KevinGuan VPN?
 
@TinyGiant Nope, I tried VPN so many times, but doesn't work so good.
 
user4639281
Hmm, proxies?
 
user3956566
4:44 AM
@KevinGuan how are you on here?
 
Guess again :P
 
user4639281
I guess it depends on where your VPN is and how reliable it is.
 
user4639281
@MsYvette Stack isn't blocked in China.
 
@TinyGiant Blocked.
 
user4639281
Is it really? I thought it wasn't
 
4:46 AM
Actually only blocked Google jQurey which Stack's using.
 
user3956566
it is according to this viewdns.info/chinesefirewall/…
 
But without it we can't load anything, comments, close dialog, inline edit, etc, etc, etc.
 
user3956566
so how are you here?
 
user3956566
your own personal sripting?
 
user3956566
4:47 AM
hi @RRR we're about to have an event chat.stackoverflow.com/rooms/info/41570/…
 
Rob
there's always ways to avoid firewalls... :)
 
@KevinGuan Come on now!
@Rob like?
 
RRR
@MsYvette yes i got some notification
 
Actually I'm using this tool: github.com/racaljk/hosts
 
user3956566
ah k nice :)
 
4:48 AM
@TinyGiant Hosts ^
 
Rob
@Tushar When I was overseas, I mainly used a VPN
but you can use proxies or a custom DNS server, TOR, your on hosts file
depending on what the firewall does..
 
user3956566
I was right :)
 
Rob
*your own
 
@Rob Wow, you know so much about this :P
 
user4639281
@KevinGuan Nice
 
user3956566
4:49 AM
dns posioning
 
I also tried TOR, that's a good thing.
 
Rob
@KevinGuan Well, I lived in Russia for a bit... they very rarely blocked something I cared about but was good to have a way out
 
user4639281
10 minutes until the event
 
user3956566
ojk what tags tg?
 
I'm voting to close this chat because our event is coming.
 
Rob
4:50 AM
Although I thought github was blocked in China, how do you get the script without already being unblocked? :)
 
user4639281
@MsYvette Closey will let us know when I start the event.
 
user3956566
ok
 
!!/blame
 
@KevinGuan It's Tushar's fault.
 
user3956566
I've voting to close K for being too energetic
 
user4639281
4:51 AM
I'm voting to close Smokey for being unclear.
 
@MsYvette Indeed.
I'm voting to close this room for this room is almost full.
 
user3956566
are you sure you are the age yu told me? You're a genius
 
People are coming.
 
@MsYvette Hey. Any event is starting in 10 minutes?
 
user3956566
@AshishKakkad yes!
 
4:52 AM
@MsYvette No I'm not, @TigerhawkT3 is.
 
user3956566
a close review
 
user4639281
Yes, we're doing a coordinated Close Vote Review event.
 
Give idea about it. @MsYvette
 
in Room for Kevin Guan and TigerhawkT3, 2 days ago, by TigerhawkT3
It would be if I wasn't a genius. :P
 
user3956566
@AshishKakkad @TinyGiant is organzing it
 
4:53 AM
so now is the time to feverishly find questions to vote to close
 
user4639281
@Ashish would you like to join?
 
user3956566
@tripleee they're as rare as dodo bird teeth
 
user4639281
@AshishKakkad You'll want to read this
 
user4639281
4:54 AM
@Closey add user 3202193
 
@TinyGiant Sorry, I don't understand that. Use commands for a list of commands.
 
search
 
@TinyGiant Ok, I added Ashish Kakkad (3202193) to the stalked tracked users list.
 
Ok Thanks. @TinyGiant
 
user4639281
Closey will now track your sessions based on the information that you provide.
 
4:55 AM
Okay so our event is soon. I'M READY!
 
user4639281
This helps us keep track of statistics on reviewing and our impact on the queue.
 
user3956566
@KevinGuan shush you're closed :)
 
@MsYvette Huh? Who closed me? :P
 
user3956566
@KevinGuan you, you agreed with my vote. a self vote is binding ;)
 
user4639281
@Nitin are you in for the event?
 
user3956566
@KevinGuan NOOOOOOOOOOOOO
 
@MsYvette LOL
 
user4639281
One minute to go
 
@TinyGiant i have not much idea just here for know the event
 
user4639281
We do focused reviewing in the Close Vote Queue in order to make as much of a dent as we can.
 

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