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9:00 PM
@Drew Why is that goofy?
You are answering a question
 
@Tiny go go go, I'm having a lot of fun,...
 
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lol
 
This is the logic given by those who decline NAA flags on answers that don't answer the question asked above
 
So, yesterday was burninated. It had two relevant meta questions: We should rename outsourcing to something more easily discoverable and Clean up on aisles.... The first one looks like it's done, and the second one has other tags we can look into
 
I'd rather retrain the flag deniers to stop mistakenly rejecting these flags, but that's a much bigger task
The NAA flag should really be retitled from "Not an answer" to "Not an answer to the question above"
 
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9:01 PM
@TylerH No context: questions are not shown in the queue; No domain knowledge: the mod may not be as smart as you, so where is the line of it does not answer the question?
 
I am saying it can't be any question, it has to be a question or the question asked
 
For me (poor 3k) when user answer hisown question I never flag.... if answer is bad you can't bet question is bad.... The answer in meta "ooh typo", actually help us to flag.... so ok you answer typo.... good answer! bye bye.... so I'm actually with the moderators.... sorry
 
@TinyGiant I am of the opinion that questions should be shown as part of the queue for answer flags
 
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If the second change you suggested was made, there would be a massive amount of flags that no mod could handle.
 
@Drew I think you used the wrong word at some point in this sentence; it doesn't make sense to me
 
9:03 PM
thinking that wordsmithing the dialogue box does squat
 
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@TylerH it can't be an answer to any question**
 
@TylerH it reads fine to me
 
@Drew "It can't be any question, it has to be a question" is grammatically paradoxical
 
not really, read it slowly
 
@KevinBrown Some of the questons with are very blatantly off-topic (there are only 12 in total!). I'm going to throw some close-votes on some of them, and I would encourage others to do the same.
 
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9:04 PM
@Drew a !== the
 
read my what's for dinner question way above
 
the speed at which I read does not affect the grammar of the sentence
 
a meaning there are several questions, the meaning there is 1
any means the Q is not even asked
 
you're making up assumptions
no one else makes those assumptions
 
you are making up a bad idea for a dialog box chg :P
 
9:06 PM
You think it's a good idea to continue rejecting flags that actually adhere to the flag's description?
 
I don't need to make them up. I read upwards of 1000 answers a day
 
user4639281
@Drew Well it has been established that if you look at it like the answer must answer the question, your flags will be declined. It has to be an attempt to answer a question
 
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Q: A minor change to the description of the "not an answer" flag

Ilmari KaronenEvery once in a while, which some regularity, somebody on SO completely misreads a question (or is just generally confused or insane or on drugs, or whatever) and posts an answer that has absolutely nothing to do with the question. If you've been on SO for a while, you've probably seen something...

 
right Tiny so I am not sure at all what you were addressing in the other answer on Meta about domain knowledge
the logic is contradictory. Should I walk thru that with a sentence or two ?
 
user4639281
Because everyone is arguing that it is the opposite of what it is, yet again
 
9:09 PM
I better get back to answer reviewing where peeps are answering a question (even if not asked) :P
 
user4639281
It's not that the answers are good answers, its that they should be downvoted and delete voted instead of being flagged.
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oh H I am all for that ! Delete voting answers would be rad
 
user4639281
The real problem is that there isn't enough 20kers engaging in such moderation activity.
 
user4639281
brb
 
found this by shog9 "and why we notify flaggers of declined flags - so that they can develop a better understanding of how these things are perceived and learn to use the system more effectively.
As usual he explain why you should not flag these answer, according to me....
 
9:23 PM
I have already suggested in this room we need a few community-elected Terminators
no voting or flagging required. They roam, they Terminate.
But, I think those comments were, well, terminated by someone
 
@TinyGiant So, Shog said he wanted to see a change, but... that change was never implemented?
He has the power to single-handedly update things like that, from what I've seen in the past
@Drew those are called moderators
 
yeah right
if that is the case, I guess their inbox is too full to be the roaming Terminators
 
9:47 PM
Later guys
 
@rene I've noticed you've started reviewing! I'll update your session record.
 
10:01 PM
Rene passed a audit!
 
user4639281
@TylerH yeah never did
 
user4639281
Maybe someone should post something explicitly asking for that
 
@Mogsdad @TinyGiant Goodmorning mates! can you add that to the toolkit if that happens often enough...
 
user4639281
It should, except for there's no space between good and morning
 
user4639281
Should be a simple fix, @Mogsdad's jurisdiction though cause it's regex
 
10:11 PM
OK
 
@rene You've completed 40 CV review item(s) today (1 of which was an audit), thanks! The time between your first and last review today was 23 minutes, averaging to a review every 35 seconds.
 
@TinyGiant See his recent response to my comment on that answer
It's planned, but there's stuff blocking it atm
 
user4639281
Ahh k
 
namely, moderator flagging UI overhaul
 
user4639281
> JavaScript XML API - GET | Google Apps Script
 
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10:21 PM
That title...
 
user4639281
found it
 
Plop morning!
 
user4639281
Ello
 
10:37 PM
@TinyGiant do we have a post saying not "how" but "why" we should write good titles?
 
user4639281
Not "why" that I can find
 
would an answer on a question thats not specifically about writing good titles do?
 
user4639281
Depends on the question I guess
 
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A: Are DRY questions on topic?

George StockerDRY questions (as normally stated) are not on topic for Stack Overflow. We're a site dedicated to useful programming knowledge. While DRY questions typically embody 'programming' and 'knowledge', they're far less useful than they need to be to a wider internet audience. Here's why: "DRY" qu...

 
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Not the greatest for general reference
 
10:50 PM
no, but it illustrates the point rather well
 
user4639281
Yeah
 
Plop waffles!
 
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Q: Titles matter in Questions: Edit those First

George StockerWe've been having an interesting debate over whether some of the flagged answers to this really popular question should be deleted since they don't answer the premise of the question. Taking a step back, I started to look at how it was that an answer was upvoted over 100 times when it doesn't m...

 
One-box, one-box everywhere.
 
user4639281
if it is relevant to the current discussion it is OK
 
10:52 PM
 
user4639281
@cimmanon that's a good one
 
However, I'm imagining another world. Let's say, if bots can instead humans, everyone no need work anymore...what'll happen?
 
user4639281
something like 70% of the jobs done right now can be done by robots
 
that is already happening Kevin
 
user4639281
The problem with that is that no one would have money to buy the goods created by robots. The monetary system being the entire problem.
 
10:56 PM
we would just find different things to do. this has been an issue since the industrial revolution began :p
 
user4639281
We could focus more on research and development
 
we would defend our corn fields with shotties, waiting for the bots to come and say they need corn too
 
i dont think we are at the point yet where AI can do creative works
 
user4639281
AI can do that, it's just that it hasn't gotten to the point where the majority of the stuff they come up with is useful
 
user4639281
back in a bit
 
10:59 PM
The bots will succumb to ultimate depression and self-destruction, realizing they cannot pro-create
 
@Drew Not waffles? :P
 
waffles, maybe
 
Seems so, but if robots can do everything, then what can we do?
 
well, protect John Connor what else
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11:12 PM
and Skeet, it's him controlling them....
 
11:53 PM
the next cut and paste stackoverflow.com/a/34733271
 

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