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user3956566
3:00 PM
wow we are opposite Thaillie
 
That difference should be part of the answer @IvanChau so you should make that clear by including the outcome of the two playground links you shared here and explain a bit why the subtle difference between your answer and that other answer is very relevant, possibly explain why the result is different after all.
You can edit your deleted answer
 
Just got back from coffee - it's 10 am.
 
So... a hour-long coffee?
 
@Tunaki That would be nice... but no. A 3-minute walk to the coffee room to make a fresh cup.
 
sd remove- this is VLQ
 
3:02 PM
@rene Got it. Thanks.
 
What should be done with this? Based on the OP's accepted self-answer, it's a typo. But the question was upvoted & there are upvoted answers. That could be FGITW gaming, but let's assume not. Should it be closed?
 
@Mogsdad If it were up to me, I'd hammer this to "What is a NPE". Okay with it?
 
that ^
 
@Tunaki Yep!
 
Also: flag the answer there as "NAA"
 
3:10 PM
trainwreckers
 
user3956566
@Mogsdad it was a typo
 
user3956566
@Mogsdad I just love it when Ops waste people's time and accept their own answer.
 
@Mogsdad 10am here too :)
 
@MsYvette Me too - I try to salvage that effort if possible.
 
3:13 PM
You're East Coast?
 
user3956566
@Mogsdad yep
 
@LynnCrumbling (I felt left out of the "what time is it there" conversation!)
 
I'm west coast (europe's west coast)
 
@TimCastelijns nice :)
 
I'm more west coast than you
 
3:13 PM
@LynnCrumbling No, but same TZ. Ottawa, Ontario, Chosen Land.
 
user3956566
I'm East Coast, Australia's East Coast
 
@Mogsdad laugh
 
... or Frozen land, today.
 
@Mogsdad Let it go!
 
AAAAAAHHHHHHHH!
 
3:15 PM
Oh dear
 
@Mogsdad can't hold it back, any more?
 
Isn't this very much "primarily opinion based" or "recommendation": stackoverflow.com/questions/34724272/… ?
 
user3956566
@Adriaan recommend
 
@Cerbrus .·´¯(>▂<)´¯·.
 
I'm so sorry xD
 
user3956566
3:18 PM
are you guys arguing over the cold?
 
I think I just got a certain song stuck in @Mogsdad's head
 
Not only his
 
Can't let it go :p
 
Victory! xD
 
I'm enjoying this
 
user3956566
3:19 PM
I don't think I want to ask any more.... O<O O>O
 
I almost can't believe you don't get the reference
 
Indeed.
But we're never gonna give you up, @MsYvette.
 
Since we all enjoy the song, this isn't Rick Astley
 
user3956566
oh no!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!‌​!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!‌​!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
user3956566
dastardly so and so
 
3:21 PM
See. Welcome to hell.
 
user3956566
sob
 
That first comment
> Who remembers when this did not exist?
 
user3956566
much open itunes emergency resuscitation
 
Interesting. This answer is a dup of an already-deleted answer from a different user. I can't believe they just accidentally typed in the exact same thing.
Now listening to The Lonely Island to purge aural memory.
 
user3956566
listening to Fleetwood Mac on repeat, this requires heavy duty cleaning
 
3:23 PM
@MsYvette are you going your own way?
 
rumours of my demise were greatly exaggerated!
 
@Mogsdad Flag for plagiarism?
 
user3956566
Rhiaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaannon
 
user3956566
@DavidG! hi!
 
Plop @DavidG!
 
3:24 PM
hello everyone!
 
@NathanOliver I flagged that for spam & a mod flag as it's plagiarism...
 
Hi o/
 
@NathanOliver Maybe... but need to find a source first.
 
And for good measure I downvoted and delete voted it.
 
@Mogsie \o
 
3:25 PM
@DavidG ehhh.. you saw that eh? Welcome back
 
user3956566
@TimCastelijns that Rhiaannon singing was in defence of you!
 
Well even when the serial up voting that I received gets wiped out I will still be a trusted user :) Just broke 20K rep
 
user3956566
@kayess you sure?
 
David :D o/
 
@DavidG I have prepared something for you, are you paying attention?
 
3:26 PM
....
 
user3956566
@NathanOliver well done!
 
@NathanOliver Yay o/
 
user3956566
David, I think it must be a super poem
 
Today, we feast.
David returns from Budapest.
He was on holiday in the East.
So he will no longer be stressed.

David, while you were away to rest,
many new bad questions were released.
We will again need you at your best,
because they all need to be policed.
3
 
3:26 PM
@NathanOliver Now go delete!!!!!!!!!!
 
@MsYvette what with?
 
Yes, love it!
 
user3956566
@kayess the dupe, as OP is getting an error
 
@DavidG shame on you, you were here and we didn't personally plop... I'm sad.
 
3:27 PM
@Tunaki Just did. I cast my first delete vote on an answer
 
plop is how I feel today too, ugh!
 
@MsYvette yes, he needs to use HttpContext, which he receives as parameter.
 
user3956566
@kayess yeh I understand, but it's a particular issue, just unsure is all
 
@MsYvette maybe, I'm not going to answer it, there are tons of such answers already.
 
user3956566
ok my friends, I must away back into php woocommerce, Rick Astley washed clean hell
 
3:29 PM
@MsYvette woo!
I mean boo!
 
user3956566
@kayess I don't see a prob with you answering it, I am not regarding it as a dup, so you may as well put the OP out of their misery :)
 
boo
 
user3956566
@DavidG hahaha woo to you too!
 
user3956566
and
 
s/woo/boo/
 
3:30 PM
@TimCastelijns Wasn't just Budapest, I saw Stephen Hawking on Thursday too!
 
user3956566
s/woo/boo-boo/
 
@DavidG please, I had to rhyme
 
user3956566
@TimCastelijns hey too is easy to rhyme with
 
OK OK
 
@TimCastelijns Hawking/Gawking/Floor king...
 
3:31 PM
Addendum
 
@TimCastelijns - Good one.. I've got one "totally out of the context" :P
 
David went to see Stephen Hawking, too.
He is criticising my poem, boo!
 
user3956566
@TimCastelijns and the fact I work on woo!
 
Stephen Hawking in Budapest?
 
@kayess In London but I was in Budapest for new year
 
user3956566
3:33 PM
@TheLostMind hey Ajit is having trouble finding the bug. Can you talk to him please? :D
 
@MsYvette - Tell him I've got a poem for himm.
 
user3956566
@DavidG nice to have you back :D
 
user3956566
@TheLostMind ok thanks bud :D
 
What flag to use when the user basically asks us to write code for him?
 
Depends
 
3:34 PM
@Ferrybig - Just close it and DV it
 
@Ferrybig
 
If he shows no effort, then it will probably get deleted
 
He is asking what close reason applies
 
@MsYvette - I talked to Ajit.. He says that "You" introduced that bug .. Duh
 
"asking for code" in-itself is not a close reason, but it usually leads to valid options.
 
3:35 PM
@Ferrybig I usually go with "Too Broad" in such a case.
 
user3956566
@TheLostMind so typical! rolls eyes :D
 
^ or unclear if you don't even know what he wants
 
Thx, I downvoted the question. I can post the question here, but I don't want to create the meta effect
 
@TimCastelijns - I am new to this thing.. So, you will have to forgive me for asking such questions.. But wouldn't a custom flag - "ASking for code" be a "more specific / better close reason"?
 
user3956566
@Ferrybig we are impervious to the meta effect here, we undergo advance training techniques, @TinyGiant beats us if we fail.
 
3:38 PM
When to use Custom close reasons: see meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/314307/…
 
@TheLostMind Custom moderator flags are only handled by moderators, while normal close votes/flags are handled by the community, making the load on moderators higher if we do flag them for "write code for me"
 
@NathanOliver well done on 20k :) only just noticed
 
thanks
 
@Ferrybig custom close reasons on questions do not go into the mod queue
Thanks you may have saved my life
 
if they ask for the code to be written for them, soften them up with some verbiage
 
3:40 PM
Always the Dutch ...
 
@TimCastelijns Did not know you where talking about custom vote closure reasons, I dont have that feature yet
 
@rene It's free advice, every Dutch person wants that :p
 
Ahh. I see.. There's another thing I didn't know.. Thank you ..
 
user3956566
A Dutch man once told me that the Dutch were strong headed.
 
@Tim how about pretend your German ?
 
3:41 PM
Waffle!
 
user3956566
Do you think this is true?
 
Yes
 
Ah I made a mistake.. sorry for my last message
 
going to retract a message? write "Waffle"! Sure, that's what we do...
 
user3956566
I have French, German, Dutch and Sri Lankan heritage, so god help my dna
 
3:42 PM
@MsYvette I refuse to admit that I'm stubborn
 
who here doesn't have messed up dna
 
@MsYvette Definitely :p
 
user3956566
@TimCastelijns So do I and then beg for apology!
 
waves
 
@Mogsdad I can't believe that re-post of that deleted answer. jaw dropping
 
3:47 PM
ok, enough jokes about other people. if you are going to say something just to delete it in a moment, you shouldn't be saying it
 
^ what he said
 
you should have the ability to do it yourself
 
@Mogsdad You found something interesting, you should flag for suspected voting fraud here too: stackoverflow.com/q/34615864/1699210
 
Fun... That spammy answer... I'm pretty sure we have a sock puppet, see the overlap here. Flagged for mod attention.
 
3:56 PM
@Mogsdad good
 
@bummi - I'm currently trolling PR's answers on quora for other touch points with Vicky.
 
@Mogsdad ...and that's where you enter the questionable area when looking into users
 
@gunr2171 true. Thanks
 
@KevinBrown Now, I'm waiting outside their apartment, disguised as a homeless unicorn. When they leave, I will go through their garbage. Not for evidence, but for discarded rainbows, 'cause I'm hungry.
 
@Mogsdad maybe just let the mods handle the rest here?
 
4:10 PM
@bummi Already moved on.
 
@Sam I did it myself, as per gunr's orders
 
Tunaki edits a Q faster than I parsed and clicked the link on the report from Smokey.
 
:)
 
I disagree with the close reason but it's closed now
 
@TimCastelijns - Should have been too broad?
 
4:18 PM
In my eyes, yes. Typically that is what I go for when they ask "can you guide me how to do X"
 
OKies
 
@SmokeDetector ignore- edited
 
@SmokeDetector How does a person browse the homepage, sees literally 0 posts with all caps titles, and thinks to themselves "It's a good idea to write an all caps title"
 
Fellow 20K-ers: With delete votes do you get x votes for question and x votes for answers for do we just have x votes to be used on questions and answers?
 
@MadaraUchiha Well, he got some quick visitors on the question :p
 
4:23 PM
@NathanOliver Shared pool, I think.
 
G'night!
 
@NathanOliver shared pool, I confirm.
 
@DavidG There was a change to smokey you may not be aware of. If the post is deleted and the user removed then use gone. If the post is deleted but the user remains then use postgone.
@Tunaki Thanks cc @MadaraUchiha
 
@kayess Nighttime in Hungary already?
@NathanOliver ah ok ty
 
@DavidG nah, just 17:25 around here, but going off, that's why the night!
 
4:25 PM
Later
 
@kayess Aha well go and have a couple of shots of Unicum for me :)
 
@DavidG hehe, you like it don't you ?:p
 
@DavidG Unicum?
 
@Thaillie He meant Unicorn. :-P
 
@NathanOliver Congratulations!
 
4:27 PM
ty
 
@NathanOliver, 20K, great work!!!!!
 
thanks
 
@Thaillie Yeah, it tastes..... nasty
 
The only really valuable 20K perk is the leather (or pleather) jacket.
 
weird. chat would not let me do antoher ty
@Mogsdad Do you really get a jacket?
 
4:29 PM
Yeah, jacket with tassels like a cowboy.
 
Why would I joke about that?
 
idk. I didn't think SO gave anything away until you got 100K
 
It's unicorn leather, so only visible to the pure of heart...
 
@DavidG Sound interesting :D
 
Ah. Okay
@Mogsdad Does it arrive via unicorn express in 6 to 8 weeks?
 
4:30 PM
I can't believe I've been trolling that for this long, and you're the first fish to bite...
 
believe it.
 
@NathanOliver It should have been in your mailbox the moment you passed 20K.
 
Expected different kind of nsfw disappointed
 
<3 robot chicken
 
4:32 PM
@TimCastelijns What kind :p
 
Success.
Do I get a deerstalker hat now?
 
No, the winter bash is over
 
one more nudge
 
@TimCastelijns You forgot to add isclosed:no: stackoverflow.com/…
 
4:47 PM
Hah. I didn't know how to query for that. Thanks
 
@TimCastelijns mods get deletes:yes/no too :P
 
@NathanOliver Shouldn't that just be "closed:no"?
 
np. Don't forget you can always click on the advanced search tips link next to the search button.
 
@PaulRoub yep
 
Ah yeah closed:no not isclosed:no
 
5:02 PM
sd tp- rolled back
 
error happened!
0: The remote server returned an error: (404) Not Found.
 
Yay \o/
 
Man
I was just finished typing a politically correct, constructive comment
 
@TimCastelijns About that Q? Keep it for another time :)
 
user4639281
5:05 PM
BOO!
 
user4639281
Next time I'm going to use some magic and trickery to send that before I enter the room.
 
Hey :)
 
user4639281
How goes it?
 
Very well. You?
 
user4639281
Pretty good
 
5:07 PM
Hey
 
user4639281
The ceiling cat is arguing with me about whether we should be telling new users that we only accept debugging questions or not.
 
user4639281
Hint: I'm on the not side
 
Hint: I'm on the not side
 
Do we flag duplicate chat messages?
 
We accept more that just debugging problems but normally those questions need to narrowly scoped.
 
user4639281
5:10 PM
@TimCastelijns lol
 
user4639281
@bjb568 Contrary to popular belief, we do not only accept debugging style questions, and those are the only questions that explicitly require an MCVE. Some questions may be Too Broad without code, and some questions may still be Too Broad even with code, but it is not a requirement to have code in a question if it isn't a debugging question, and often it is just noise. As long as the question is appropriately scoped, it should not be closed just because it doesn't contain code. Some of the most useful questions on the site have no code at all. — Tiny Giant 23 hours ago
 
user4639281
5:26 PM
And my last vote is now gone.
 
What a speed closer you are
 
user4639281
Event last night
 
Ah, the monkey comes out of the sleeve
 
user4639281
Yeah, we uhh.... cleared the queue.... but it filled right back up again
 
user4639281
5:41 PM
Quiet in here this morning
 
The gift that keeps on giving.
 
user4639281
lol
 
"Gift"
 
Oh nice. I now get a delete button in the LQPRQ. No more recommendations for me :)
 
user4639281
lol
 
user4639281
5:43 PM
To bad it's actually a "vote to delete" button and not actually a "delete" button
 
Yeah.
 
Better make a meta post about confusing UI!
But there is probably one already, knowing meta
 
probably.
 
user4639281
status-bydesign, buttons should only have one word
 
user4639281
Unless you can come up with a single word that means vote to delete, it aint gonna happen
 
user4639281
5:46 PM
I'm trying to get to 10k, but looking at the question lists is just depressing
 
But the button has recommend delete under 20K so we can have buttons with more than one word.
 
user4639281
@NathanOliver hmm you are correct.
 
user4639281
(no cv's left)
 
user4639281
Ahhh these titles....
 
user4639281
5:48 PM
> php mySQLi error
 
user4639281
That's... descriptive.
 
user4639281
6:09 PM
Ha, someone just argued that Node.js is the equivalent of getting all of the users on the internet to download a patch to make PHP run client side.
 
user4639281
Uhm Node.js is widely used, whereas your example of having every user on the internet download a patch to make their browser run on the client side is... outlandish at best. The fact is that JavaScript does run on the server side as well as the client side, so your point is moot. You can choose between them, no one has to use PHP. How do you know that they aren't actually asking whether he should use server-side JavaScript instead of PHP? @kainaw — Tiny Giant 3 mins ago
 
lol
@JonasCz That should be migrated to Pricing.SE ;)
 
How do I get links to questions to show the title instead of just a plain url in chat BTW ? Do I have to copy + paste the title manually ?
 
Ahhhh. The LQPRQ is going to kill how many delete votes I can use on other things.
 
@JonasCz did you see the first coment
 
6:17 PM
@JonasCz we use a userscript for that, but you would need to make a link manually
[title](link)
 
Oh - Will install that userscript - I assume it's on StackApps or Github somewhere ?
 
@JonasCz the userscript is driven by TamperMonkey or GreaseMonkey (download first)
when properly installed, it embeds a new clickable link down by "share edit close flag"
and that link is called "cv-pls"
 
user4639281
6:51 PM
It's also made mostly of magic
 
All out of close votes, running out of flags. I have some Delete votes - any projects need them?
 
user4639281
Awesome, [code-quality] is empty!
 
@Mogsdad Taking a break from the legal cleanup for a bit to focus attention on other tags, so I have nothing for you today
 
That's what it looked like, @tiny & @kevinB... I'm off to the 10K tools, then.
 
user4639281
Now we have and to work on....
 
user4639281
6:58 PM
It's funny how burninating an off-topic tag can turn up other off-topic tags... or is it sad?....
 
Sad. Definitely sad
 
user4639281
lol
 
user4639281
@Mogsdad Custom flag about the duplicate answers.
 
user4639281
7:07 PM
There is disclosure, so not really spam.
 
user4639281
Also qualifies as NaA
 
heavy hand just came down on 1 of 2
 
If you notice a new user whose first few posts all promote their own stuff, you can also remind about the clause in the self-promotion policy that deals with many/all your posts promoting your product being bad.
 
@TinyGiant Did you submit a custom flag for the mark?
 
Please be careful with linking to your own content on different sites, you don't want to be a [spammer](http://$SITEURL$/help/promotion). You should be including the majority of the content here, and use the link only as a reference.
 
7:09 PM
Good idea, @josilber - that was why I was asking about spam. I'll update my comment pile.
 
user4639281
@KevinBrown I did not.
 
user4639281
Though I was going to wait a full day to make sure the tag is removed.
 
I usually work off of [It appears]([][][]) you are affiliated with [][][]. Please note that our [self-promotion policy](http://meta.stackexchange.com/questions/57497) requires you to disclose this information in answers like this one and that you not mention the product in a huge percentage of your posts.
But yeah, I guess that would need to change quite a bit if they do disclose and are just mentioning it in all their posts.
 
user4639281
@KevinBrown oh it has been removed, will flag
 
@TinyGiant Ah, wasn't sure if it had a tag wiki before (usually that's my signal, when the tag wiki is removed)
 
7:12 PM
often irritating comments are left underneath, like rabbit droppings
 
user4639281
@KevinBrown If you hover over the tag and it is removed it will say "invalid tag"
 
user4639281
> The burnination is complete, the tag has been removed by the empty tag script, can I get a status-completed? Pretty please with a cherry on top?
 
@josilber FYI : I handled this earlier today and this was my advice. You handled that answer as a moderator.
 
@rene Thanks
 
np
 
7:22 PM
@rene Cleaned up that post -- thanks for the good advice to Ivan there.
I needed my good friend diffchecker.com to see the differences in the code blocks.
 
user4639281
@josilber I love that tool.
 
You're welcome
 
7:40 PM
@MadaraUchiha I've found that the lion's share of people I come across typing in all caps are those who are 1. not digital natives, and 2. people who have poor near vision
If they were digital natives, or at least digitally adept, they would 1. know or deduce etiquette, and/or 2. learn that you can zoom in rather than typing in all caps
or even set a user-defined font-size
but caps lock does work across different programs...
I've just decided; all browsers should implement some kind of SendToLower() and allow all caps only in situations where an also-implemented ` key encapsulates "code"
 
8:04 PM
not showing expected output or support for Q
 
user4639281
8:26 PM
flame flag war on meta, everyone is invited. The your momma jokes have started.
 
^^ per self-answer, "it was copy paste issue , my bad"
 
@TinyGiant, what's the question?
 
user4639281
 
user4639281
aaaand I'm out of votes everywhere again, dammit
 
@TinyGiant there are so many sites on SE
 
8:38 PM
man I thought I was intense
 
user4639281
What was the children's story about the guy who lived in a rickety old house that kept him up at night? The doctor prescribed a chicken, then a goat, then a horse, etc. After a week the doctor tells the man to get rid of all the farm animals, and the man has a great sleep from then on. I vote to remove the NaA and VLQ flags from the flag dialog for a week, then when they come back everyone would be much more appreciative. — Tiny Giant 16 secs ago
 
user4639281
@bummi Everywhere on (m.)?SO
 
? (m)
 
@TinyGiant I haven't heard of that one.
 
user4639281
@bummi regex for m.SO || SO
 
user4639281
8:43 PM
@NathanOliver I remember reading it a long time ago.
 
Hmm. Maybe it is one of the local-centric fables.
 
user4639281
I don't think so, but it could be. I can't find it through google searching... but that is kind of a hard topic to search for.
 
Google really needs to implement the read my mind feature
 
there was an old woman who swallowed a fly..
 
I know that one though I don't know why ;)
 
8:49 PM
@NathanOliver They already do, they use it to show you more-relevant ads. ;p
 
This answer raises another point. The NAA flag is mistakenly declined a lot for one reason in particular: often, actual answers are posted that don't attempt to answer THE question that was asked. The dialogue for the NAA flag says "this does not attempt to answer the question" (emphasis mine). Answers that don't address the question above are, by this description, NAA, yet they often get declined because the flag is titled "Not An Answer". Since it's not feasible to change the behavior of all flag reviewers, please change "the" in the above sentence to "a" to rectify this problem. — TylerH 55 secs ago
 
@AlexanderO'Mara I thought that was the track me everywhere feature.
 
IMO a bigger problem
 
Good point Tyler
 
Those situations make up the bulk of my declined NAA flags
 
8:53 PM
I wonder how many declined flags you would get flagging all of these
 
tyler that is kinda goofy to go from The to A, as I could be answering the question of "what's for dinner tonite"
 
user4639281
@TylerH I agree that it should be changed, but I do not agree that the flags are incorrectly declined. I can't vote either way because I have none left
 
A decent % of answers are addressing an un-asked question.
 
@PaulRoub I you like you can raise a custom spam flag too he seems to be the author of the book.
 
@bummi Missed that. Will do.
 
8:56 PM
:)
 
user4639281
No one likes my suggestion?
 

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