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12:01 AM
Plop!
@Pham held
 
@KevinGuan Sorry, I don't understand that. Did you mean help?
 
@Pham yes
 
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@Pham stat
 
@KevinGuan Sorry, I don't understand that. Did you mean stats?
 
12:02 AM
@Pham yep
 
7,255 need review
6 reviews today
3,023,216 reviews all-time
 
user4639281
Liar! You're a cyborg!
 
No, I'm a real human bot.
@ProgramFOX I wasn't here last night, so what's new commands of Smokey?
 
12:10 AM
@TinyGiant This webpage is not available
 
user4639281
@KevinGuan using postgone removes the question link from the message, while leaving the user and the reference to their profile.
 
user4639281
brb
 
Later
@ProgramFOX Oh, also please update the commands wiki: github.com/Charcoal-SE/SmokeDetector/wiki/Commands
 
nice answer out there Rene
 
tnx
I better call it a night ... I'll set the alarm clock but don't count on me being at the event. Have fun all!
 
12:26 AM
Ohhhhh, thanks rene. Forgot that we have an event which start in 5 hours.
 
@Closey starting
 
@Undo Good luck!
 
@JarrodRoberson Your last comment is useless
 
user177800
@Kyll not really it satisfied me, but if you want to report it as not constructive that might be satisfying to yo :-)
 
user4639281
@JarrodRoberson Your last comment there isn't very constructive, and it is rather inflammatory.
 
user4639281
12:40 AM
 
> Thank you for reviewing 40 close votes today; come back in 23 hours to continue reviewing.
 
@Undo Thanks for reviewing! To see more information use the command last session stats.
 
user4639281
@Drew That is blatantly asking for opinions.
 
user177800
@TinyGiant thanks for the confirmation! :-)
 
Greetings!
 
12:49 AM
Plop!
 
Can someone with a Python hammer reopen this and then immediately rehammer with this target? The dup I marked wasn't dup enough for the asker.
 
No other Python hammers here, I lack a gold Python badge.
 
Or possibly this as a dup.
 
Except Bhargav but he isn't here atm.
 
That slacker.
 
12:54 AM
:P
 
:)
Thinking of dupehammering this with the good ol' "how do I pass by reference."
 
@TigerhawkT3 Oh, be careful. He has more rep tan you.
@TigerhawkT3 Hmm...no idea.
 
He's only 2(k) levels higher. I can take him.
And upon reading the answers and discussion around that question, it's basically a copy of the pass by reference question.
A shallow copy.
 
@TigerhawkT3 Huh, seems so.
yesterday, by Tim Castelijns
Get to work then instead of chatting here all day
 
Yes, boss.
If all you have is a hammer then everything is a nail, but if everything is a nail it's really good to have a hammer.
 
1:05 AM
16 hours ago, by TigerhawkT3
See, dupe messages.
 
Closes Kevin's chat as dup
 
<Kevin's chat>
 
Asks meta question complaining about Kevin's dup chat
Meta question gets DVed
 
Flagged it for mods as: Please delete this useless post.
 
Locked and preserved for historical purposes
 
user4639281
1:09 AM
declined by mods: flags are for situations that the community cannot handle themselves
 
Talking about that in SOCVR
 
user4639281
infinite circular recursion joke
 
 
user4639281
Look at all those one-boxes
 
1:13 AM
Rich Web 2.0 Content
 
@TinyGiant Wow
 
@KevinGuan does that hammer have php's name on it? as in you intend to use it to smash up php?
 
@cimmanon No, that's PHP hammer. :P
 
user4639281
Seriously? Six out of eight of the messages on the starboard are mine...
 
oh i see. i wasnt aware they even had a hammer :p
 
user4639281
1:14 AM
And only two of them are remotely relevant.
 
user4639281
@cimmanon It's a useless hammer, it isn't good for anything, perfectly fitting for the language.
 
Oh, it's very useful. You can use it to pull out nails, and maybe use the side to pound them in. It can even be a sort of screwdriver with one of the claw tips, if you have a slotted screw with a wide enough slot.
 
user4639281
PHP: Very useful, if you have nothing else available.
 
@TinyGiant You could unstar them.
 
user4639281
@KevinGuan Bah, what's the fun in that?
 
1:17 AM
Hmm...no idea :P
 
user4639281
@TigerhawkT3 are you in for the event tonight?
 
If you mean a voting/etc. event, probably not. I prefer the manual transmission.
 
@TinyGiant No it's afternoon.
 
user4639281
Just our weekly reviewing event.
 
@Closey stats
 
1:21 AM
6,798 need review
99 reviews today
3,023,309 reviews all-time
 
user4639281
@KevinGuan @ 5 UTC!
 
Oops, then it's morning :P
 
user4639281
lulz
 
1:39 AM
Would you consider this question about neural networks to be POB?
 
user4639281
@KevinBrown Yes
 
@TinyGiant Is that the reason my answer on that question randomly received 2 anonymous downvotes?
 
user4639281
I have no idea what the cause of the downvotes on your answer and that question is.
 
user4639281
I do know that the question does not contain anything that resembles a Minimal Complete and Verifiable Example, and neither does your answer.
 
lol.. whatever.
 
1:50 AM
Dinnertime for me; be back in a couple kiloseconds.
 
Not sure this is off-topic here. Seems like a valid question which would benefit someone wanting to post on SO. — Undo 4 mins ago
 
its a poorly asked question then
 
user4639281
I see what it is asking now.
 
user4639281
1 message moved to Trash can
 
2:20 AM
@JarrodRoberson does the dupe actually answer the question? or is that guy just having a hissy fit?
 
user3956566
Can I flag my own post as NAA, if it is the accepted answer (as I can't delete it)?
 
user4639281
@MsYvette Probably be best to custom flag it.
 
user3956566
@TinyGiant it doesn't really warrant mod attention.
 
user4639281
@MsYvette That does not qualify as NaA.
 
user4639281
2:27 AM
If you flag any accepted answer a mod will see it, no matter what.
 
user3956566
@TinyGiant ah good to know
 
user3956566
@TinyGiant it's just links
 
user4639281
@MsYvette Your answer without the links and anything else is "Yes it is possible" which is absolutely an answer to the question.
 
user3956566
and the question is a yes or no, which is not too broad, but then the OP asks for guidance in the comments.
 
user3956566
@TinyGiant ah k, won't custom flag it
 
user4639281
2:30 AM
Tell them to go on and ask more specific questions. That question is answered.
 
user3956566
I am talking about the Q though, it is a yes or no, which is not too broad, but the OP wanted more.
 
user3956566
@TinyGiant yes next time.
 
user4639281
344
Q: Exit strategies for "chameleon questions"

AarobotI'm not sure if there's already an existing term for this, so I'm inventing my own. (tl;dr: I call them "chameleon questions" because they change every time you submit or edit an answer. If you're already intimately familiar with the phenomenon, please skip past the first set of bullet points t...

 
user3956566
@TinyGiant yep nice post
 
user4639281
Basically, the question is on-topic and answered acceptably. If the user has more questions, they should pose those in the form of actual questions.
 
user4639281
2:34 AM
From the comments it looks like you have it handled.
 
user4639281
I would flag one of the comments with a custom reason saying that the question is answered and all of the comments are now obsolete.
 
user3956566
@TinyGiant thanks Tiny
 
user4639281
You in for the event at 5?
 
its pretty safe to assume that if the question is "is it possible to do X?", what they really want to know is "how do i do X?"
 
user3956566
@TinyGiant oh ok! didn't know there was one
 
user4639281
2:36 AM
@cimmanon But in the case where it is answered and accepted and otherwise not causing harm, it is fine.
 
user3956566
@cimmanon totally that is the issue.. so it makes them difficult to deal with
 
because when you answer with "yes", their next question will almost always be "how?"
 
i often gauge tag IQ on the tag count ratios of the OP
 
@TinyGiant in that particular question though, if you interpret it as "how do i do it", the question is too broad and should have been closed
 
user4639281
@cimmanon It should have been yes, but the op accepted the "Yes it is possible" answer.
 
2:39 AM
OPs accept bad answers all the time :p
 
user4639281
Yeah, but the answer they accept does show the intent of the question.
 
user4639281
While they may have wanted to know how, they were satisfied with a "yes it is possible" answer.
 
or they feel obligated to because its the only answer they got
 
user4639281
It isn't actively causing harm, and closing it as too broad now wouldn't make much sense considering the answer they accepted.
 
user4639281
I mean, whatever, if you guys want to waste your close votes on it, go ahead, but it won't be automatically deleted anyways.
 
2:53 AM
i wish i could delete some of my crappy answers on equally crappy questions. sucks to have a high answer/accept ratio sometimes ><
 
I'm back.
 
user3956566
\o
 
user4639281
@TigerhawkT3 Meh, zero score aint that horrible.
 
user3956566
@cimmanon that's good, I have a heap of nothing answers, no votes, no acceptances. I wait until the community then decides if they are useful, as I don't want to delete too many of my posts
 
user3956566
3:00 AM
by wait for the community, they will sometimes end up with an up or down vote, and then I either leave it or delete it if I think it's no good
 
user4639281
 
without going crazy on research, what again is a user, new that day, that is (unregistered) ? Is it a "let's use old cookies on a thumbdrive" scenario ?
 
@TinyGiant Look at the vote count; I'm the only person who thought that that question didn't show research effort.
@Drew Not sure what you mean.
 
user3956566
@TigerhawkT3 same lol
 
Back
 
3:02 AM
Hiyas.
 
user4639281
@TigerhawkT3 and 43 people didn't think it was remarkable enough to vote on at all.
 
user3956566
\o
 
looking at someone's user profile I mean
 
user4639281
@Drew Voting to close as unclear what you're asking.
 
user3956566
@TinyGiant yeh I need to increase my rep
 
3:04 AM
you have never looked at a user profile and seen (unregistered) ?
 
user3956566
and stars on Tiny's vote count as votes to close the comment, but not delete as it as historical significance in amusing and baffling other chat room members
 
user3956566
@Drew yeh, just confused by whom you talking about
 
user4639281
@Drew Context?
 
Well, you don't have to register to use the site. You can just start making posts, and it'll assign a default numeric username and that's pretty much it.
 
But I'm little busy, so maybe I can't join our event...I'll try, but enjoy it if I can't here :)
@TigerhawkT3 Can you find a better dupe for this? stackoverflow.com/questions/34522295/…
 
3:06 AM
then why are there day 1 users that have and others that do not have (unregistered)
 
@KevinGuan Is the one in the comment no good? Seems okay.
 
user4639281
@Drew Context?
 
Well, I suppose the 1-day users that show as "registered" have taken the time to attach an email and password to their posts.
 
I loathe to link to a user so I will hunt lone wolf style
 
user4639281
@TigerhawkT3 Anonymous users don't have profiles IIRC.
 
3:07 AM
I dunno, then.
 
@TigerhawkT3 Really? Really need that complex function to do that?.
 
user4639281
I could be wrong though, it has happened at least once before.
 
no way
 
user4639281
I know right? It's hard to believe.
 
user3956566
don't believe it Tiny
 
3:10 AM
@TigerhawkT3 Seems we can do it use u''.join(u'\\u%04x'%ord(char) for char in 'string').
No need that char if 32 <= ord(char) <= 126 else part.
 
user4639281
52
Q: What does it mean when someone's an Unregistered User?

Erik BI looked at someone's profile and it said Unregistered User. What does that mean?

 
encoded_symbol.decode('unicode_escape') is too complex?
 
user4639281
Seriously? Long drawn out search? site:meta.stackexchange.com what does unregistered mean?
 
> How do I reverse this? (i.e. I give u'E' and it returns u'\u0045')
That's the question.
And encoded_symbol.decode('unicode_escape') doesn't work in this case.
use .encode instead also doesn't. Tested use Python 2.7.
 
some peeps play with cookies: meta.stackexchange.com/a/74049
get answers, and abandon the day 1 user
 
user4639281
3:13 AM
@Drew I never play with my cookies, I only ever eat them.
 
@TinyGiant Waffles!
 
so much low hanging fruit there
 
Ugh, Unicode.
 
So?
 
user4639281
A: Use Magic™
 
3:16 AM
So I don't know of anyone who enjoys messing with Unicode, bytes, strings, and code pages, except for the people who designed them.
 
user4639281
Ů͆̐̀͂ͭ͘҉̹̹͙͉̞̳͖̠N̛̲͎͊̌͒ͮ̾̀͞I̒͑ͣ͏̲̲̥̠͚͎̬͖C̸̡͙͖͇̻̟̟̲̐ͯ̏̑̀̏ͮ̒ͤ͠Ơ̱̳̠̙̌Ḑ͌ͤͦ͋ͧ̎̈́͢҉̙‌​̥̯͓E̴̡͚̮̙̗̥̱̻ͬ̈͑͡ ̡̤̜ͨͨ̄̓ͮͣ̕F̜͍̟̙͎̙̭̎̃̄ͪ̓́̕ͅƠ̵̢̲̰̂̉ͭ̋̈̄Rͭ̀͘҉̺̩̫̭̯̗ͅ ̸̢͎̰͕̹͖͍͗̉͐̋͘Ṱ̫̲ͥ͂͑̃͛͂̑̄̀H̷̢̜̤͕͉̜̤̜̄ͩ͋͗̋ͅÊ̲͔̦̗̩̲̫ͤ̀̽̆ͥ͢ ̵̗̲̳̍Wͮ̂͆̔̋͏̶͇̠̗͚͖͠Ȋ̡̻̫̘̣̻́N̪͈̗͇̩͈̳̫͛ͮ̑̊͆͋ͩ͡!̵̛̬͕͚̦̲̣ͤͩͧ̽ͤͥͦ́
 
another unregistered user who would have thought: stackoverflow.com/a/34522349
 
^ Great tool :P
 
Hang on, lemme put that Unicode into an HTML page and parse it with regex. And PHP.
 
user4639281
 
3:19 AM
ah the famous html regex parse question
 
@TigerhawkT3 <(?:"[^"]*"['"]*|'[^']*'['"]*|[^'">])+(?<!/\s*)>
 
And would converting a character to its Unicode escape sequence just be hex(ord(my_char))?
 
user4639281
<(\w+)[^>]*>[^<]*<\/\1>
 
@KevinGuan Lemme see: less than, non-capturing group, a quote, not a quote, unless it's a kitten, then a man at a mailbox, and then someone dropped the keyboard. And then more than.
 
@TigerhawkT3 No that gives 0x<something>.
 
3:21 AM
Well, that 0x<something> is the same value, just formatted differently.
 
But that isn't OP wants.
 
@Drew should that question be protected?
 
@TigerhawkT3 No again, you should send it as a chat message like I did.
 
the pringles question ?
 
user4639281
I think editing your regex kills the end of the timer on that thing.
 
3:23 AM
"\\u{:0>4}".format(hex(ord('E'))[2:])?
 
user4639281
It's still throwing zalgo
 
user4639281
And now it's done.
 
@cimm I don't know.
 
@TigerhawkT3 Ah, you win.
 
It clearly was confusing from the beginning what the guy even wanted
 
3:28 AM
That question I dupehammered as "pass object by reference"... someone is arguing against the closure. -_- Unsurprisingly, it's someone who answered. Was I really that far off?
 
i guess its not too bad, there is only 1 deleted answer
 
The HTML regex question is protected and locked to preserve an important historical artifact from people who don't know how to look with their eyes rather than with their hands.
 
user4639281
The top... many answers all say the exact same thing.
 
Also, we don't want "helpful" people doing this.
@KevinGuan I double-win? Awesome.
 
@TigerhawkT3 Nope, NetWorkError :P
@TigerhawkT3 So, again: i.imgflip.com/wf2qk.jpg
 
user4639281
Doesn't even bother to omit that from the sample output.
 
"" nope.jpg
 
bunch of trainwreckers i say
 
Where can I DV the Java tag itself? It offends my Pythonista sensibilities.
 
3:35 AM
like the hat and knickers on that little fella
 
user4639281
s/knickers/trousers/
 
user4639281
Unless you are actually saying you like his underwear
 
i think i used the wrong word there
 
user4639281
Hopefully
 
@KevinGuan Oh, I see that .format() line is basically already an answer in the dup, with "\\u%04x" % ord("¥".decode("utf-8")). So the dup is good.
 
3:39 AM
@TigerhawkT3 Oh, see that. Then I'm afking.
 
Same; back in a kilosecond.
 
user4639281
You're late
 
@TinyGiant OMFG. I'm going crazy with some regex weirdness.
 
user4639281
@Mogsdad regex weirdness ftw!
 
user4639281
what are we regexing?
 
user4639281
3:42 AM
@Mogsdad Oh yeah, you've got delete votes! Want to throw one here?
 
I ran into a post that had tags and , and had "Flux and fluxible" at the start of the title. It got changed to "Ible..."
 
user4639281
@Mogsdad lol
 
user4639281
fluxible just needs to be first in the list.
 
user4639281
Order the list from longest to shortest.
 
No problem... add \b around the tag phrase, and all will be good. Works fine here
 
user4639281
3:43 AM
Fine then, be all smart and like that.
 
user4639281
I gotta give my kid a shower. BRB
 
@TinyGiant Fine if you can assume the words are tags, but I can't. Could have another word that starts with the tag bit.
@TinyGiant (when you get back from the bath...) Now the weird... the \b appears to get dropped by the new Regexp( string ) call. Even when escaped using this baby.
 
@Closey starting
 
@Tushar Happy reviewing!
 
^^^ IS it pob?
or custom - non-programming related
 
user4639281
4:10 AM
@Mogsdad give me your current.
 
@TinyGiant Grabbed a machete and hacked my way around it.
 
user4639281
Ahh
 
user4639281
Woot, I'm over 8,000 thanks for the bounty @Mogsdad
 
But... the hack brings up problems with C#... github.com/Tiny-Giant/Stack-Exchange-Editor-Toolkit/blob/…
@TinyGiant NP!
 
user4639281
@Mogsdad test question?
 
4:11 AM
@TinyGiant Corrected... stackoverflow.com/questions/34504306
Like my 'stache?
@TinyGiant I think it's because there isn't a word boundary after #, because it's already NOT a word character. So no match.
 
user4639281
@Mogsdad You run something on every tag right?
 
@TinyGiant escapeTag, at the bottom.
 
user4639281
Hmm, that won't work.
 
You have no more close votes today; come back in 19 hours.
 
@Tushar The review session has been marked as completed. To set the number of items you reviewed use the command last session edit count <new count>
 
user4639281
4:18 AM
\b means that it has to end on a word character
 
@Closey last session stats
 
@Tushar Your last completed review session ended 28 seconds ago and lasted 23 minutes and 18 seconds. However, the number of reviewed items has not been set. Use the command last session edit count <new count> to set the new value.
 
user4639281
try (?:\S|$) instead of \b
 
I respectfully resist the urge not to !!/ ... report
 
user4639281
4:25 AM
oops, meant (?:\s|$)
 
Hi again.
 
@TinyGiant Getting the same result.
Waitaminit. Click the wand again, and it goes.
Oh, crap, what did I break now?
 
user4639281
I don't know, watcha breaking?
 
user4639281
in Charcoal HQ on The Stack Exchange Network Chat, 1 min ago, by Normal Human
I don't consider this spam. Someone writes a plugin to perform a common task. There are multiple questions on SO about doing that task. So them go on an answer. Misguided, but not malicious.
 
user4639281
I linked to all four answers with the same content.
 
4:36 AM
Would anyone like to see R code for an R task, and then its Python equivalent?
 
user4639281
@Drew The duplication of answers is not allowed though, that should be flagged.
 
a mod said full disclosure. We all pick and choose what ref we want
 
@TinyGiant Your fault this time. Changed to (?:\s|\b|$), and that seems to do it.
 
user4639281
@Mogsdad Ahh, k
 
But the hack is now a HACK.
 
user4639281
4:39 AM
Lol
 
/(?:^(?:[(]?(?:(?:\s|\b|$)c#(?:\s|\b|$)|(?:\s|\b|$)mysql(?:\s|\b|$)|(?:\s|\b|$)‌​ado\.net(?:\s|\b|$))(?:and|[ ,.&+\/-])*)+[:. )-]*|(?:[:. (-]|in|with|using)*(?:(?:(?:\s|\b|$)c#(?:\s|\b|$)|(?:\s|\b|$)mysql(?:\s|\b|$)|(?‌​:\s|\b|$)ado\.net(?:\s|\b|$))(?:and|[ ,&+\/)-])*)+([?.! ]*)$)/gi
 
user4639281
well then...
 
One of those pieces of code you get to work, then hope it never breaks...
 
user4639281
Thank god there is a 5 tag maximum.
 
user4639281
That wasn't even a typo, that was a braino
 
user4639281
4:41 AM
You in for the event in 18 minutes?
 
Are we gonna rough up some questions?
 
user4639281
We are going to review hard... to the best of our abilities.
 
Is there a special script or interface?
 
@TinyGiant Yep.
@TinyGiant I'm sharpening up my shanks.
 
user4639281
Nice!
 
user4639281
4:46 AM
@TigerhawkT3 Not for the events no, we just all get together and work on similar tags at the same time to make the most impact as we can in one go.
 
user4639281
I've got lots of other special interfaces for using up all of your close votes for every other time of day though.
 
Will you just post a link to a specific queue for us to dive into?
 
user4639281
No we just do the CVQ, and filter on certain tags using the filter on the review bar for that queue.
 
user4639281
Are you registered with closey?
 
I am not, no.
 
user4639281
4:50 AM
@Closey add user 2617068
 
The robots are revolting.
 
@TinyGiant Ok, I added TigerhawkT3 (2617068) to the stalked tracked users list.
 
Now what will happen to me?
 
user4639281
@TigerhawkT3 Now you read this
 
user4639281
But don't tell it anything till we start the event.
 
4:53 AM
Okay, I'll start reading.
 
user4639281
@Mogsdad although the duplicate target says to use document.getElementsByTagName which is pretty outdated.
 
@TinyGiant Sounds like a good reason to add an updated answer to the old question. Not to ask it again.
 
pre-game jitters
 
user4639281
@Mogsdad Yup, I'm not really worried about splitting hairs over selection of a node list.
 
Quick - bladder check.
 
4:59 AM
Sorry, that's a private variable.
 

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