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Sam
7:06 PM
@Clo stop bot
 
@Sam I'm shutting down...
Goodbye!
Hey everyone! (SO Close Vote Chatbot started, linux branch test!)
 
SEDE is distracting. Just found a 7 page edit war. And this
 
Sam
Whoa, wth.
 
Holy hell.
 
user4639281
7:16 PM
Anyone know of a free svg hosting service?
 
what do you need it for?
 
user4639281
Hosting an svg image.
 
user4639281
@theB WAT?
 
@theB OMFG
 
well i get that, but for what? you can create a gist that will display them
 
7:18 PM
@TinyGiant But that used to be CW...
 
user4639281
@cimmanon I never thought of that.
 
user4639281
@Siguza Many rollbacks
 
Does github.io support svg?
 
@theB I like how the very long answer begins with "Briefly"
 
user4639281
7:22 PM
@cimmanon Thanks
 
@Tunaki Didn't even notice that.
 
user4639281
@Siguza 30 pages of rollback war.
 
@TinyGiant I know, and the 5k user is a complete retard, but I guess that can happen with CW's, when both feel like they own the post.
 
Sam
@Gunr so besides reviewing the tag change bot message, is there anything else left to do to the func spec?
 
I just pushed another update. There are some sections I need to fill in more details about.
 
Sam
7:26 PM
Anything I can help with?
 
user4639281
@Siguza I'm just flabbergasted that they could achieve 30 pages of it before someone noticed.
 
The whole goal of the file is that you can give the doc to a person who has no knowledge of what you are trying to do, and they can build the software for you.
let me make a "call for help" message
 
@TinyGiant That was probably back when rollback wars didn't auto-raise a flag
 
user4639281
Ahhh, potabwy.
 
@TinyGiant I'm amazed that neither of them gave up before Brad brought the hammer down.
I'd get bored after about 10 pages worth
 
user4639281
7:28 PM
@theB I'm not. Cause you know... when someone is wrong on the internet.
 
@TinyGiant look at the dates, this spans from Nov 18 '13 to Feb 6 '14, 3 whole months!
 
We're working on the functional spec for version 2 of the chat bot. If you would like to help, give it a read over and tell @gunr2171 or @Sam of anything that is confusing or needs clarification.
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user4639281
@Tunaki There is that too.
 
Sam
@gunr2171 Yeah. It's just a matter of thinking of everything the bot does in its day-to-day work, etc.
 
> Please do not repeatedly override the formatting of this answer against the will of the person who left it. I'm locking this for the next day, and if you wish to explain why you are doing this, please do so on Meta. – Brad Larson♦ Feb 6 '14 at 15:33
 
7:29 PM
yep, that's the hard part
 
Sam
I mean, I can't think of anything else.
 
for your toy commands, do you want to write what the bot could say (list out the options)?
 
Sam
... there are 75 different faces for the "face" command.
 
Did you notice what they were fighting over? Just using a simple local variable instead of giving directly the argument
incredible
 
That one is going to be large. How about you make that a different text file in the docs folder which contains the list, then point to that in the func spec
 
user4639281
7:32 PM
@Gunr, on the request access part, you repeated yourself.
 
Sam
@gunr2171 Good idea
 
@TinyGiant where?
 
user4639281
> If the user tries to run a command where they do not have permission to do so, the latest request for that permission has been denied, and that denial was within the last 48 hours, then the bot will ignore the message. Once 48 hours has ellapsed, the bot will allow them to ask for permission again.
 
user4639281
^^^ Is also a couple of paragraphs down.
 
ah, ok
fixed
 
Sam
7:38 PM
Oh man, all this unicode is messing with the GH editor.
notepad++ to the rescue
 
user4639281
And Approve/Reject Request [#] is above the permissions system and below it in different forms
 
It should be listed first as a command, and then again in details within the permission system, let me take a look
 
People still use Notepadd++? :)
 
user4639281
Yeah that's how it is.
 
user4639281
It just seems odd.
 
user4639281
7:41 PM
@DavidG People still use Windows?
 
Sam
@TinyGiant People still use computers?
 
user4639281
@Sam There's still people?
 
> Note, there should not be a need to increase the amount of time a reject will encure.
 
user4639281
@theB Yeah, I've been looking, can't find a definition anywhere.
 
incur?
 
Sam
7:43 PM
@TinyGiant You're right. We're all chatbots.
 
user4639281
@theB endure?
 
user4639281
ensure?
 
user4639281
enema?
 
@theB I thought we fixed that, might have got re-broken
 
procure
 
user4639281
7:44 PM
obscure?
 
@Sam Speak for yourself. I'm a semi-autonomous turing complete thinking machine. Who happens to chat.
 
user4639281
@theB That's exactly what I programmed you to believe.
 
got to go now, grocery shopping :(
 
Sam
Cya
 
user4639281
Don't have too much fun.
 
7:45 PM
@Sam has free reign to fix any problems :)
 
Sam
Roger that.
We'll send a search party if he doesn't return.
 
user4639281
Internet Search Party! Woohoo!
 
user4639281
That's where we all eat chips, drink beer and google stupid stuff right?
 
@TinyGiant Where is this? Can I join? Sounds fun
 
Sam
@TinyGiant And talk to robots.
 
user4639281
7:48 PM
@Tunaki Only if gunr doesn't come back apparently
 
user4639281
@Sam That too
 
@TinyGiant If he backs, then I front
 
user4639281
lol
 
user4639281
Now my typos are extending into missing entire words...
 
Now typos are into words...
 
user4639281
?
 
bob
TL;DR: that guy is in deep do-do..
 
> And I added her university email into a porn website since I was pissed.
sounds like a real winner
 
that's quite a story
 
bob
@theB also: "PS: This has been posted from a TOR borwser with javascript disabled."
like posting the question via TOR will stop police/FBI from tracking him down..
 
7:56 PM
Also, I'm sure the volume on $300 keyloggers isn't that high at amazon that it would be impossible to connect the dots.
 
bob
there's still the keylogger which they ordered via Amazon (presumably with their credit/debit card), FBI wouldn't have much trouble gaining access to records of who purchased the model of keylogger (which the operating system would've probably logged).
This is hardly "cheating" than it is "I was bored so I ruined my associate professor's career". It hardly matters that you posted your question via TOR, there's still other ways for the police/FBI to track you down (your Amazon order of the keylogger, for example). — bob 2 mins ago
 
Ok, @bob now we know, it is enough.
 
@rene I've noticed you've started reviewing! I'll update your session record.
 
user4639281
Not continuing the discussion, just pointing out a hilarious (but common) typo:
 
user4639281
> The teacher is so sweat
 
bob
8:01 PM
@TinyGiant R.I.P spelling/grammar in their question. Going to go and answer a question on HW.se now.
 
@theB sad part is, that question is quite reasonable. not sure why it was downvoted so hard. unless it was by the "lol, mysql doesnt need no fancy advanced features real databases offer... like window functions" crowd :p
 
Sam
Oh dammit, I forgot to add a commit title.
 
@cimmanon Maybe downvoted because of the back and forth war, and the repeated blanking?
 
Sam
Eh, well the toy commands now have added documentation.
afk
 
user4639281
> Shog"
 
user4639281
8:08 PM
^^^ ?
 
Sam
@TinyGiant Fixed.
 
user4639281
Awesome
 
Sam
Really afk.
 
@rene You've completed 40 CV review items today, thanks! The time between your first and last review today was 8 minutes, averaging to a review every 12.2 seconds.
 
8:29 PM
What to do with this question?
It's a real interesting question but I'm not sure it's on topic for SO
 
@Tunaki without the code I would vote as unclear.
 
bob
@Tunaki It's tagged , but doesn't have any code. It's too broad, as no MCVE, but also unclear.
 
@Tunaki but maybe leave a comment to see if an mcve can be produced?
 
I hit the CV limit, again...
 
Sam
Pizza successfully downloaded and unzipped. Ah, much better.
 
8:37 PM
Downvoted and flagged for closing that question - @Tunaki.
 
Sam
@Tunaki Needs 1 more cv
 
user4639281
@Am_I_Helpful Did you mean "voted"? You're well above the threshold for the close vote privilege.
 
Yes, I've voted to close, not closed. I agree that it is too far from me as of now. @TinyGiant
 
@Closey panic
 
8:45 PM
nice
 
Nice
Is it onebox time already?
 
Sam
Oh that reminds me.
@Gunr Should I document the gifs in Closey's toy command arsenal?
 
Sam
9:06 PM
@TinyGiant Boom and boom.
 
user4639281
Danke
 
yeah, smokey, what is that?
 
user4639281
@theB Yes.
 
user4639281
9:22 PM
And eggs.
 
@TinyGiant Thought so.
 
user4639281
And spam spam spam spam bacon and spam.
 
user4639281
@theB Next time - if it is an old tool req like that - maybe specify that it is attracting new activity.
 
Willco
 
user4639281
I guess I shoulda done that originally...
 
9:25 PM
@rene - Thanks
 
Apparently spam is a delicacy and a traditional birthday gift in south korea or something
 
user4639281
I wonder if that's why we oft get Korean spam...
 
It's huge in Hawaii too.
McDonalds has spam & eggs
 
user4639281
dafaq?
 
9:30 PM
@TinyGiant No kidding
 
user4639281
Ha
 
user4639281
Did you know that 59% of Tuna sold at restaurants and grocery stores in the US is not tuna.
 
user4639281
84% of fish samples labeled "white tuna" are actually escolar, a fish that can cause prolonged, uncontrollable, oily anal leakage.
 
Sam
@Clo my face in reaction to that
 
@Sam o/
 
9:34 PM
Nice one closey :)
 
Sam
Nope.
 
user4639281
lol
 
Sam
@Clo Last chance, my face in reaction to that
 
@Sam ヽ༼ຈل͜ຈ༽ノ
 
Sam
...
 
user4639281
9:35 PM
Needless to say, I don't eat much fish.
 
Is closey a bot? Seriously???
 
user4639281
@Am_I_Helpful Yeah, so is Sam and Siguza.
 
Sam
@Am_I_Helpful Yup.
@TinyGiant Command not recognised.
 
I'm new here, it'll take me some time go get aware about items like these.
 
user4639281
Sam is a chatbot that writes other chatbots in his mission to take over the world and hook humans up to machines to be used as a power source while being immersed in a virtual reality simulation without their knowledge.
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9:36 PM
Fuck, don't kid. Sam has pretty well a use rofile on SO.
Sorry, ^ user rofile.
Again sorry, ^ user profile.
"P" in keyboad has turned rusty.
 
Sam
You can just edit your message btw.
 
Little drop down to the left of the message
 
user4639281
Also, we tend not to appreciate straight up cuss-words. There may be a minor viewing at any point in time.
 
Sam
@TinyGiant This one knows too much.
 
Oh thanks, found that. Nice of you guys.
 
user4639281
9:38 PM
@Sam Always.
 
Sam
Time for some more chatbots.
 
user4639281
All your bot babies are coming out to play I see.
 
Sam
Not all of them, Gham is still asleep.
 
(y) Nice work SAM. Appreciate your work.
 
user4639281
Yeah, probably best not to wake that one.
 
9:42 PM
How many are there overall?
 
user4639281
They keep reproducing, we can never keep count.
 
What???????????
 
Sam
@Am_I_Helpful In this room currently? 4 (maybe 5-6).
 
OK, time to go to sleep in India. It's already 3 a.m. in India. Good night everybody.
 
user4639281
Depending on your threshold for Bot and AI.
 
user4639281
9:44 PM
@Am_I_Helpful Good night.
 
Sam
@Am_I_Helpful Good night.
The Vogel returns.
 
user4639281
Damn vote limit reached; wait again for 2 hours.
 
Sam
Which damn vote limit (cv/dv)?
 
For all of you, the search query is:q "need free" closed:no gives quite a lot of off-topic questions which should be closed.
Would it be helpful for me to go and flag a bunch of those questions ?
 
Sam
@JonasCz Whoa... here goes all my CVs.
 
user4639281
9:55 PM
@Sam Comment votes on meta
 
Sam
@TinyGiant Oh, meta...
@JonasCz Wouldn't harm in doing so I guess.
 
user4639281
@JonasCz Your time would be much better spent getting 832 more reputation points so you could go and vote to close all of them.
 
user4639281
But, your flags are free to do with as you please. Just know that all of my aged away flags were from close flags.
 
<-- "73 aged away" :(
 
@TinyGiant That's.. very true. Quite a lot of my close flags have aged away too, so I've kind of given up on flagging things just for the sake of it.
167 aged away, out of ~700..
 
user4639281
10:02 PM
Well... close flags just put crap in the CVQ, and the CVQ is FIFO.
 
user4639281
Being that there is usually between 8k and 10k posts in the CVQ at any given point in time, I doubt very many flags do anything other than add to the size of the queue.
 
user4639281
IIRC close votes take longer to age away than flags, so they are more likely to be seen.
 
user4639281
That said, you should still flag stuff for other reasons, I just don't see much point in flagging for closure.
 
@Sam it's called favorite rooms
 
I defenitely still flag all the crap I come across, just I don't go looking for it.. Is there any particular reason that close flags age away, anyway ?
 
10:09 PM
<-- 103 aged away...
of 500...
@JonasCz because the Close Queue is hopelessly swamped
 
Sam
@JonasCz So reviewers don't die of depression?
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and there isn't enough reviewers to decrease the load, let alone handle all the flagged posts
 
user4639281
@JonasCz All flags age away if they don't get processed in time, the CVQ is the only queue that is so massively over-full that flags actually get to that point.
 
so go grab some rep and start closing crap
 
We should crowd-fund a close event for mods, and have them clear the CVQ on a weekend or so...
 
user4639281
10:11 PM
@Siguza I can see the fallout now. A massive tidal wave of "Why was my question unilaterally closed by this moderator?" questions on meta.
 
user4639281
They all get duped to one canonical that says "Because your question was crap, and does not deserve any attention from anyone. Goodday"
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@TinyGiant Pff, as if people cared enough. They're just gonna get fed up with us and leave. All good.
 
@TinyGiant We'll need to crowd-source another close event for those, too..
 
user4639281
@JonasCz I can see the fallout now. A massive tidal wave of "Why was my question unilaterally closed by this moderator?" questions on meta meta.
 
user4639281
Fortunately there is no meta meta meta.
 
10:14 PM
@TinyGiant - Meta meta bacon eggs meta meta and meta?
 
user4639281
Yeah... that one.
 
user4639281
Moar Majick?​​​​ — Tiny Giant 16 mins ago
 
Hooray, a "need free" question that does not need closing stackoverflow.com/questions/27440953 (no one box pls)
 
user4639281
 
JAL
^Boom'd
@Closey starting
 
10:21 PM
@JAL You don't need to run this command anymore! When you start reviewing I should notice it and record the start of the record.
 
JAL
Oh we're doing the dev branch today, nice
 
Sam
Well, I'm down to my last 5 CVs...
 
@JAL I've noticed you've started reviewing! I'll update your session record.
 
Sam
@JAL We've been running this version all weekend.
(As part of a stability test.)
 
JAL
nice
 
user4639281
10:23 PM
@JAL Danke
 
Sam
Before I sign off for the night, is there anyone not being tracked by the new closey?
 
JAL
is turning into
 
user4639281
@Sam You're joking right? I thought we only ran instability tests 'round here.
 
Sam
@TinyGiant Shhh, it's all a cover to try out nice things.
 
user4639281
Ahhhhh, I see.
 
10:27 PM
Am I right that the bot in here can be set up to watch particular users?
 
JAL
There are no items for you to review, matching the filter "unclear what you're asking, too broad, primarily opinion-based; [sql]"
 
@JAL You've completed 40 CV review items today, thanks! The time between your first and last review today was 7 minutes, averaging to a review every 10 seconds.
 
user4639281
@DavidG Ask Sam to hook you up.
 
Sam
@Clo track user 1663001
 
user4639281
Actually lets test out the request system
 
10:29 PM
@Sam Ok, I added DavidG (1663001) to the tracked users list.
 
user4639281
Damn nvm
 
Sam
@TinyGiant We can just clear the DB again.
 
JAL
@Closey current tags
we should be almost done with
 
user4639281
Could do, I re-e-e-e-a-a-ally want to try out the request permission system :P
 
Sam
@TinyGiant Hasn't been implemented yet.
 
user4639281
10:31 PM
Ohhh... ok fine then
 
JAL
@Closey next 15 tags
 
Refreshing the tag listing. Please wait...
@JAL The next 15 tags are: 164, 111, 103, 94, 91, 82, 75, 62, 55, 54, 49, 46, 37, 31, 30
 
Oh, so I can get anyone added to the tracking list? :)
 
JAL
Ooh nice
and a bunch of ios tags
sweet
 
user4639281
@DavidG That depends on what you mean by tracking
 
user4639281
10:32 PM
It tracks your reviews in the Close Vote Review Queue.
 
Ah
 
user4639281
If you mean tracking user activity, smokey does that but only if it is spam.
 
I need to learn more about it I see :)
Only been lurking in here for a couple of days on and off
 
user4639281
Way back when there was an initiative to separate smokey from himself for this room only so we could track more than just spam, but that seems to have died abruptly.
 
@TinyGiant Uh, meta post asking why he's not getting any answers..
 
user4639281
10:34 PM
Yam and Pham track other stuff, but I don't think they can track specific users.
 
user4639281
@JonasCz I gave him a very good explanation of why his latest question is not getting any answers, in the form of a close vote.
 
Sam
@TinyGiant They're made to find LQ stuff.
So tracking by user isn't really necessary.
 
user4639281
^^^ That's what I meant.
 
user4639281
But the whole idea is to stay away from tracking users, because the user shouldn't matter if it is all about the content.
 
I think I'm gonna write a bot too some day
 
Sam
10:36 PM
@TinyGiant Exactly.
 
Makes sense
 
user4639281
Except in the case of spammers, we like tracking them cause they never post good content.
 
@DavidG I've noticed you've started reviewing! I'll update your session record.
 
Sam
Well, Yam doesn't actually "hunt down" anything, he just creates a 5 day log of every active post.
 
user4639281
Except the handbag ones, they sometimes have some good quality handbags for sale, even if they are knock-offs.
 
Sam
10:38 PM
Anyway, I've gtg. Night all.
 
user4639281
night
 
Night.. gtg too
 
user4639281
cya
 
user4639281
 
@TinyGiant > It's basically the perfect question.
 
user4639281
10:44 PM
^^ It is.
 
user4639281
@hobbs I'd upvote that, but I reached my daily vote limit. That question is so obviously on-topic that it is saddening to see it locked. What if I actually tried to compile a program that I actually wrote on a napkin? Where would I find out what the errors meant? — Tiny Giant 51 mins ago
 
@DavidG It looks like you've finished reviewing . Is that right?
 
Does Closey expect confirmation?
 
I was just about to ask that. Also, I wasn't reviewing Java, I had no filter then set up a filter.
@Closey yes
 
@Closey commands
 
10:49 PM
Below is a list of commands for the Close Vote Chat Bot

Everyone
    alive - A simple ping command to test if the bot is running.
    who ... - A "toy command" for blaming a chat room user.
    commands - Shows this list.
    face - A "toy command" for posting a random text face.
    fox - A "toy command" for posting the meme fox gif.
    help - Prints info about this software.
    panic!!! - A "toy command" for posting an appropriate gif.
    running commands - Displays a list of all commands that the chat bot is currently running.
 
Sam
@Kyll Yes, you have to reply to the message.
 
My downloads folder is 294 GB... I need to clean up
 
Sam
@DavidG This feature is still experimental.
Don't worry if it suggests tags you haven't done.
 
@Sam I like how he apologises when you respond with "no" ^^
 
Sam
Heh, yeah. And that was only a recent change.
@Clo when should I really get to bed?
 
10:54 PM
@Sam 2016/05/21
 
@Closey face of Sam when he finally goes to bed that day
 
@Kyll ◉_◉
 
Hahaha
 
Sam
Not sure I'll survive that long.
 
@Closey xkcd
^ This should onebox today's XKCD
 
10:56 PM
@Closey xkcd 1234
 
^ Oh yeah
 
That should give specific one!
 
@Closey xkcd Real Programmers
 
user4639281
When Closey asks you a question, it does expect a response. If your message is directly after Closey's message then it doesn't have to be a direct message reply but if it is not directly after Closey's then it must be a direct reply.
 
@Closey xkcd 327
That's the classic one
 
Sam
10:57 PM
You'll need to create an FR for that.
 
it's not like it's hard, right Tiny?
 
user4639281
@Sam Why not just leave it as PR?
 
user4639281
@Vogel612 What's hard?
 
Where is the repo for it?
 
Sam
@TinyGiant I don't trust other people's code. :p
 
user4639281
10:59 PM
@Sam I thought it was a reference to "We accept pull requests."
 
@Sam Do you trust code from you-in-the-past?
 

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