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1:00 PM
sleeping wasn't the best I've had, but I'm glad I get another day to use
 
that's optimistic but the point was, I was awake and working while you slept the whole time :D
 
true
 
wait what.
 
now I'll work for another ~17 hours and you'll sleep some of that time
 
you NEED grunt to use bootstrap?
 
1:02 PM
@Purify no
 
@Purify no
 
lemme rephrase.
the LESS version of bootstrap.
apparently can't compile otherwise.
 
oh, looks like it does, never used the LESS version btw
 
wow fail.
 
1:04 PM
LESS is inferior to Sass
 
because now I have to download/install/config it.
 
@cimmanon I know...
 
@Purify I m pretty sure you can use any build tool you want
 
gotta work with a theme that's built using LESS.
 
1:04 PM
just need a less preprocessor
 
@PatsyIssa exactly
 
@PatsyIssa I tried codekit, it won't build them though.
 
we used to extend bootstrap and usedd .LESS to compile it in .NET
 
Not sure about codekit
 
doesn't matter what you compile it with
just reference the compiled css file
it's normal html
 
@Purify ALSO you can put normal CSS inside LESS code and it will still work
so you are doing it wrong
 
@PatsyIssa the issue is more that bootstraps LESS is built in a modular way.
 
either way
 
so when you compile, it won't compile into one file. it'll compile seperately.
 
@Purify just add @import in the bootstrap main less file where it imports all modules
and you can create whatever custom module you want to have
and it will compile
 
1:08 PM
yeah i did.
:P
it doesn't.
 
I did custom color templating that way and it worked 100%
 
that's why you need a build tool to concat it all
 
gonna do some googlin'
 
@Purify do a lot of googling considering your questions :D
String.fromCharCode()
just got the idea for a Matrix oriented pen :P
 
posted on October 22, 2014 by Cathy O' Connor

    When you browse your favorite website or check the latest version of your product on your device of choice, take a moment to look at it differently. Step back from the screen. Close your eyes slightly so that your vision is a bit clouded by your eyelashes. Can you still see and use the website? Are you able to read the labels, fields, buttons, navigation and small footer text?

 
1:18 PM
@mikedidthis hi o/
 
1:31 PM
\o
@cimmanon call bs.
 
@mikedidthis thanks mike but i actually figured it out. ;D
 
user652649
@PeeHaa @SecondRikudo programmers.stackexchange.com/questions/137344 not sure what i should think of this. answers are very contradicting
 
@ZachSaucier you so handsome. <3
 
@WesleyCrushed It's a collision of two programming paradigms.
OOP by defintion cannot be immutable.
The whole point of objects is that they can change their state based on behavior.
Immutable works great in functional programming
Where everything is expected to not have side effects.
 
@mikedidthis the only reason LESS is popular now is because of TB. the only reason they used it is because they were friends with someone who works on LESS.
 
1:35 PM
bootstrap aren't a reference for code quality
 
Does width="auto" exist in HTML (meaning, not via CSS)?
 
user652649
@SecondRikudo that's a great point
 
My research wasn't conclusive, but suggests no
 
@WesleyCrushed Which is the reason I feel DateTimeImmutable is a pile of horse droppings.
 
1:37 PM
@mikedidthis are you familiar with wordpress? or am I misremembering
 
lol
> That is insanely stupid code. I am not going to dumb down JSMin for this case.
 
user652649
@SecondRikudo yea
 
@TylerH I think it was @K111ky who isn't here
 
@TylerH kinda, whats up?
@cimmanon again, calling bs.
 
@SecondRikudo FP is perfectly capable of having side effects, its just not preferred
 
1:39 PM
@cimmanon Of course, but the ideal is that they don't.
 
@PatsyIssa I remember it well.
 
user652649
i kicked him for joke @SecondRikudo and he felt offended, so he left since then
 
He left the internet.
 
@mikedidthis well a coworker has a picture slider (I think it's called jSlider) in WP and the pictures aren't responsive when viewed on a mobile device; they're still full-size as if he was on a desktop
 
@WesleyCrushed Seriously?
 
user652649
1:40 PM
@mikedidthis it's my fault
 
and I have zero experience with WordPress so I didn't know if there was a setting for that or if you had to go into the code somewhere
 
@TylerH define responsive? As in they aren't swapped, or they don't fill the element?
Its either a functions.php or css issue.
 
user652649
@SecondRikudo yes. i mean he was a monumental cock. but i didn't intended to send him away
 
@WesleyCrushed no, he seriously quit the internet.
 
but he's a developer :P
Also he's the type of asshole we like
@asko come back you asshole :(
4
 
1:42 PM
Yep, I liked him.
 
user652649
@mikedidthis last online few days ago: stackoverflow.com/users/3729461/asko
 
i got my internet working after exact 28hours 5min 6 sec :(
 
Yeah, he is still on Skype.
 
@mikedidthis they don't resize to be smaller
 
1:44 PM
@cimmanon I wasn't trying to be rude. I just don't find popular to equal better.
 
AFAIK he doesn't have smaller versions of the images unfortunately
 
@TylerH css issue then. If you can link me to the site, I will take a look.
 
he just happened to stop by my desk since I helped with one web design issue in the past
one sec let me look in my history
 
user652649
@cimmanon one suggestion coming from experience: never argue with @mikedidthis, or you going to have bad times. not that one is wrong and the other isn't. he's just very conservative about his ideas
 
@mikedidthis no, popular does not always mean better, but what features does LESS have that Sass doesn't? being able to have if/else constructs and user defined functions is a big deal for me.
 
1:46 PM
@mikedidthis within <div id="jcyclemain">
 
and if you say "being able to use less.js", i am going to reach through the internet and punch you in the face
 
@cimmanon LESS uses JS whereas SCSS uses Ruby, correct? So maybe less of a learning curve for front-end devs. JS seems more commonplace/popular to learn than Ruby (these days)
 
@cimmanon I would say they are on par. Less looks at guarded mixins rather than if / else.
 
@WesleyCrushed made a wickless coil
just boil the juice. fuck cotton.
 
@TylerH who says you need to learn Ruby to use Sass? i certainly dont know Ruby and only have it installed on my VM for the sole purpose of using Sass
 
user652649
1:49 PM
@rlemon stfu. i don't vape anymore
 
@cimmanon I mean the syntax would be more familiar
 
@TylerH the syntax for what, Sass? the scss syntax is just like CSS
 
@WesleyCrushed Link?
 
@cimmanon eh, I'm just going off of what I've heard. I don't use either :-P
 
user652649
@SecondRikudo eh. we were joking... will try a search
 
1:51 PM
 
@mikedidthis @cimmanon reason why Bootstrap used LESS instead of SASS: quora.com/…
 
@TylerH it's a theme. the theme itself is in LESS :p
 
@Purify oh, bummer
 
@TylerH no idea. I thought background-size: cover would work, but it didn't.
Tell them to get a new plugin.
 
hi all
 
1:52 PM
yeah, was thinking of converting it but it's utilizing too much. :/
 
@PatsyIssa I'm finally getting around to watching Trainspotting!
 
@cimmanon found one. LESS compiles a shit tonne faster than sass. :D
 
@WesleyCrushed Did anyone speak to him since?
 
@cimmanon anyway, its preference. Use either, as long as you use something :D
 
user652649
1:54 PM
@SecondRikudo afaik, no
 
@mikedidthis I prefer LESS to SASS for that reason
 
shit don't do vaping
 
@WesleyCrushed fu.
 
user652649
@mikedidthis ahhahahahaha
 
I only use them for nesting and compressing anyway
 
1:55 PM
variable all the things.
 
If you have logic in your CSS, you shouldn't have logic in your CSS.
@mikedidthis Yeah, that too.
 
@WesleyCrushed you made him to go ...fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu
 
user652649
i will left too, for solidarity
 
@WesleyCrushed <3
I have ideas. Usually dumb ideas :D
 
@WesleyCrushed we can not take risk of losing one more asshole :)
 
user652649
1:58 PM
@obiNullPoiиteяkenobi don't worry there's plenty in this room
5
 
\o/
 
user652649
:D
 
minimum requirement: don't ask to ask, be an asshole.
7
 
user652649
@SecondRikudo thanks for the help about immutability, makes absolutely sense
 
2:01 PM
posted on October 22, 2014 by kbironneau

/* by el_curtismo */

 
user652649
i always feel like i'm missing the theory of (oop) programming... i should read some book maybe
 
i do feel same
though i have started reading
 
@SomeGuy nice lemme know what you think of it
 
user652649
i started to read it @PeeHaa then i started to search for a version which i heard of that contains java examples (which is more familiar to me) but i failed and gave up
 
user652649
2:04 PM
maybe p2p
 
@PatsyIssa Watched a bit. Changed my mind; not in the mood for this sort of movie
 
x.x
 
@mikedidthis hah, thanks
 
I really love the amount of manlove in this room whether #nohomo or just #homo
 
2:10 PM
it's like football players
 
mostly #homo
 
:-)
I mean <3
 
luckly we are all remote - else there would be touching
 
O.o
 
2:10 PM
#nohomo
 
@WesleyCrushed OOP is overrated. ive been using Haskell for 3 years now, and i havent missed it. havent had much need for mutable variables either.
 
@ZachSaucier true story bro!
 
user652649
@easwee yea, touching with knuckles
 
@WesleyCrushed the only kinda man love you know!
 
2:14 PM
@ZachSaucier @Mr.Alien I should have L4D downloaded today, shall we?
 
I can't until tomorrow (or very late tonight my time)
 
seems legit
 
Tuesdays and Wednesdays are very busy for me
 
aight no worries max we ll play during the weekend
 
get killing floor :D it's more chaotic
 
2:15 PM
I'll be busy this weekend too xD
@easwee I like L4D more :P
 
user652649
@cimmanon syntax is terrible :| /me only likes javay languages
 
@ZachSaucier I like both, but prefer more chaotic games so Killing Floor is better for me
 
man shadow of mordor is such a well made game x.x
 
is that Lotr related?
 
yup
 
2:17 PM
@mikedidthis excited for tonight?
 
Middle Earth: Shadow of Mordor
 
@GNi33 BUZZING!
 
nice
Lotro was good
 
I'm a little scared
 
@easwee chaotic is a choice word :D
 
2:17 PM
tried to play first 40 levels
 
@easwee bundlestars.com 33% off there get it
@GNi33 @mikedidthis first time anal ?
 
@PatsyIssa may well be!
 
user652649
@PatsyIssa ahahah
 
Wutcha guys up 2
 
@mikedidthis don't blame me for words - I try my best with english
 
2:18 PM
we could get r*ped, yeah
 
@easwee no it was a good word. I found it a little grim after a while. Also the shop lady!
 
code in the dark thingy?
 
No
Liverpool vs Real Madrid.
 
@mikedidthis ah yeah :D
 
ahhh football
 
user652649
2:19 PM
supermario will score at least two
 
Stevie will have our backs
 
but the most annoying thing of all
fleshpound!
yayayaya
 
@mikedidthis thanks, he will be disappointed :-P
 
user652649
btw @mikedidthis i heard balotelli is doing shit now
 
He is :(
 
2:21 PM
@WesleyCrushed nah, he is doing fine.
 
if this guy would get back into his form, he could do so good
 
He isn't a solo striker.
Being played as a solo striker.
 
but right now he's shit to be honest
he looks totally uninterested in his game
 
user652649
@GNi33 that's balotelli
 
@easwee that is like the witch from L4D or golaith from Borderlands.
 
2:23 PM
@WesleyCrushed nah, I've been following him quite a bit
 
not a witch
 
user652649
but he can be effective even if he looks (or he is) totally uninterested
 
not the same right now
we'll see, maybe he will be great tonight, given the vast challenge Liverpool is facing
he could do it, everybody knows that
but, no matter what kind of crazy psycho Suarez is, I miss him :(
 
user652649
what role plays in liverpool now?
 
user652649
center forward?
 
user652649
2:27 PM
or as second striker
 
at the moment center forward.
@GNi33 +1
 
user652649
fail
 
center forward, yeah
because Sturridge is out
 
user652649
he left milan because milan needed a center forward, which balotelli isn't
 
Exactly. He is best played with another striker.
 
2:28 PM
@WesleyCrushed "javay" languages? goddamn kids. the correct expression is "c-style". haskell can be written using curly braces and semicolons, but almost nobody does it
 
Sterling is freaking pissing me off this season, I like Lallana though
but come on
 
tbh our defence is the issue.
 
put me in on defense
 
^ that's freaking ridiculous
 
One more random pen: codepen.io/easwee/full/eCkqi
2
 
user652649
2:29 PM
@cimmanon c-style != java-style to me xD also, i'm probably older than you, but i put all my effort to not look an old fart
 
and I'm off for home
laters
 
Wes is 57
 
user652649
@TylerH next year i'll be
 
@GNi33 over thinking it. Take away the own goals and he would have scored two and maybe that would have been his hat trick.
 
@WesleyCrushed oh man I totally pulled that number out of thin air
TIL I'm a magician
 
user652649
2:31 PM
LOL
 
user652649
i'm 28 bitch @TylerH
 
;-)
 
user652649
how can you think i'm 57?
 
user652649
ahahaha
 
hahhaa
 
2:31 PM
I think he just needs to get a few goals in, lucky or not, I don't care, that will burst his bubble
put in 2 against Real tonight would be a good start in my book ;)
 
@GNi33 yep. Look at Torres at Chelsea.
 
I just had a terrible day of football yesterday, I hope this one will turn out better
 
user652649
@easwee now turn it into crosswords!
 
@WesleyCrushed I'm a magician because I can crush all my hopes and dreams by doing nothing
7
 
@mikedidthis to be honest, all I'm hoping for is a good game of the team.
 
user652649
2:33 PM
@TylerH i am my worst enemy too
 
If they lose but put up a good fight and a good performance, that's okay for me
Just no terrible games anymore, please
 
@GNi33 from experience, we have never ever not put up a good fight in Europe.
Even if we go 3 down before half time.
 
Ludogorets
@mikedidthis hehe, yeah
 
Shh
 
Ludogorets was a horrible game. Basel was slightly better, but still infuriating
 
2:35 PM
If there is a time this season to sort the mess out, it is tonight.
I will need to get drunk.
 
i want to see the good old fighting spirit of LFC back, all I'm asking for
@mikedidthis exactly! I'll head over to the pub to watch the game, so we'll be drinking together, mate ;)
 
@GNi33 awesome, we can cry together too!
 
I'm watching the game this time too!
 
@PatsyIssa am out for buying a cable, will brb in an hour, can play after that ;)
 
@mikedidthis ssshhh... we'll cheer together ;)
 
2:36 PM
I don't usually get the chance because they're literally at midnight for me
I hope it goes well
 
Roma's defeat yesterday was enough horrible football for some time, it'll be a better game tonight. FFS! :D
 
Just watched the last time we played Madrid with Torres
God a miss that oke when he was on form
Top top fucking striker
 
yeah, he was great
what I miss a lot more is Stevie G in his best form
 
Stevie G when he took those ranged shots
and scored
the incredible hype you got from that was insane
 
yeah, incredible
and let's not forget Xabi Alonso.
I will never, ever forget this goal
 
2:44 PM
Dude Xabi Alonso :(
 
just watched it again. Man, what a brilliant player that guy is
 
@skibbi_bizzle yep, Torres ruined it for himself.
 
looking back on that 2005 squad alone, wow
Riise, legend
 
yep, so much win.
Dumb question, how do you make two cached jquery collections into one?
seems like it is .add()
 
yep, that should do the trick
 
2:50 PM
@mikedidthis where's my biz.
 
wat
 
halloween beauty.
 
one hour per day, one a day.
yours will be first though.
 
they take one hour? o.o
 
@Mr.Alien I ll still be at work :P
 
2:51 PM
that's what I call commitment.
 
@Purify probably longer, but I need to get a limit.
 
you're a legend.
 
I would wait until you see them first :D
 
also something interesting happened in the past 32 hours.
for some reason there's been an influx of people asking me where i'm from.
i've had 5 so far.
each time i've said 'guess'.
and so far people have said Scotland, Ireland, Australia, Canada and America.
waddafak
I said to one of them "you don't think England?"
he was like "naw."
 
@mikedidthis i needs you to summon caprica to room 63494
plz
 
2:58 PM
@easwee you've inspired me
forgot to add space chars
 
Or the mighty lemon
 

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