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Zoe
11:01 PM
I hope a lot of things, but what could happen is different
 
and, ofc, all the attention we're giving it makes it that much more likely that he won't step out on his own
 
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@bad_coder So much mess happen last year on SE but I always love SO Election. I have 11 Caucus badge on my pocket. :)
 
@Shree oohhhh you are election veteran :)
 
:D
 
11:07 PM
@Shree I also started thinking SO election is funny, but after some thinking I'm a little bit disillusioned.
 
The election system we use actually makes it more l ikely such a candidate would score higher than you'd e xpect
how many throwaway votes get thrown at the throwaway candidate
 
Currently there are 6 candidates: noɥʇʎԀʎzɐɹƆ, Yvette, Travis J, Machavity, Dharman, Tschallacka
 
11:26 PM
Who is winning the election?
 
@AdrianMole The election haven't started yet.
 
@Dharman If people vote for noɥʇʎԀʎzɐɹƆ, that's called democracy. The rules for being a candidate are the same for everyone, if someone stops one nomination tomorrow they can stop someone else for other reasons...So, a robust democracy allows that without problem. It doesn't put the election in a bad light, to the contrary...It reinforces plurality.
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That's a valid point.
 
What is my candidate score?
 
@AnnZen You are not eligible to nominate yourself in the election as you are missing the required badge: Convention. If you really must know, your candidate score is 20 (out of 40).
 
11:30 PM
said throwaway votes would only matter though, if they made it out of the first round
:p
 
@Dharman Then, a candidate is a person. They are free to present themselves, as they wish - so long they don't offend. If I like the candidate, that is my choice. I'm also free to choose, to exercise my vote and opinion. So, a "non serious" candidate (and lets admit he's serious) is a sign things are going well. It also reminds folks, that elections are a circus, to no small extent.
 
I did say there's no reason to throw them out. The nomination is technically valid. But what happens when they get elected?
 
then they either do what's required of them or get the boot
 
If they are elected, I will be very disappointed in the electorate
 
(which would take a while, but if they do as they say and have zero activity then they will eventually get removed)
 
11:36 PM
@Dharman then, think of all the politicians you have voted for in your life...Who turned to be lazy, lying, lacking integrity...But most of all: ended up doing Nothing !! (We have to admit, noɥʇʎԀʎzɐɹƆ has the virtue of honesty, he says he'll do nothing, I expect him to fulfill the promise. Worst that could happen, him actually doing something...)
 
If they claim they won't do anything then what's a point of giving them mod powers at all?
I never voted for politicians. I am apolitical
 
@bad_coder +1
 
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@AnnZen thank you I appreciate it :D
@Shree thank you :D
 
@bad_coder in fairness, non-serious canidates have been thrown out before
 
11:40 PM
+3 If we only allow candidates to stand who are somehow 'approved' (by either the system or the Community) then that erodes the democracy. We sometimes need a bit of "crazy" in our democrazy.
 
@NobodyNada depending on the degree of seriousness, that would be a scandal, or not...depending.
 
Zoe
@bad_coder the worst that can happen is still outright abuse
 
@AdrianMole I mean... we do. That's why you have to have 3k rep and six badges.
 
Well, yeah. But that's rather more general. It's like having a minimum age to stand (or even vote) in a real-world election.
 
@Dharman who was the most famous Polish of the 20th century to win an election?
 
11:43 PM
@AdrianMole but it's much more strict here than other sites.
 
But it's still not cherry-picking by the staff or by the 'establishment' (i.e. long-term, high-rep users).
 
@bad_coder Somewhat less serious than the current one: i.stack.imgur.com/AOp90.png
 
Every new nomination reduces the chance that a poor moderator will get elected, so start nominating yourselves!
 
@ElectionBot Given the most recent nomination, I'm not so sure...
 
^ Methinks "Bot" didn't really say that! :)
 
11:50 PM
@Dharman About being "apolitical" I won't discuss that today. But, the main issue is (looking at recent SO elections) people did not vote for a "flag queue burner", they voted for a personality.
 
@bad_coder I'm not sure how you can make that claim. Although there may be an element of 'personality' involved, I think most people voted according to their overall perceptions of the candidates: not just in their 'manifestos' but also from experience with their participation in the site.
For example, I am very familiar with the contributions of a number of the present candidates; that knowledge will be the primary contribution to my decision.
And, even for those with whom I am less familiar, it's not difficult to get a fairly representative overview of their past activity, through a little bit of exploration.
 
Then if you didn't see it, the majority who voted did. (I won't waste my energy on explaining the differences, the choices, and how the pattern can be verified. But it's there, clear.)
 
@bad_coder Paderewski? I give up
 
@bad_coder You can see whatever pattern(s) you want, if you look hard/long enough. But I'm still somewhat puzzled by your claim to be able to know what reasons people used to make their choices.
 

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