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2:00 PM
that's more than I usually do :)
then I waste a lot of time trying to understand who was the madman who wrote X
 
@VLAZ Oh. So it's not the actual mapping of every element. It's the mapping of the set?
 
usually turns out to be me
 
I think the bottom line is that functors are hard to explain but are actually simple and we use them all the time. Just don't call them that. As I said Optional in Java is a functor and nobody seems to have a problem with that, you just do Optional.of(value).map(fn1).map(fn2) and that's it. It's what functors do - allow you to chain .map() operations. Different functors will apply the function you give to map() in different ways. E.g. Optional does it null-safe, JS array to all values.
 
Why does the "fail" condition seem to conventionally come first? That seems backwards to me.
 
2:04 PM
@CodyGray because in JS, failure is the default state, duh
 
Right. Got it.
Why did you take out true from location.reload()? Force of habit?
 
because it is deprecated and completely removed from the standard :)
 
Ah.
Man, those SO answers I checked when I wrote that code are so out of date!
 
there is a holy war about it, though
 
Somebody should do something about it!
 
2:06 PM
because it used to work in some circumstances
 
What about this .click(function() { ... }) versus your .fail(() => { ... })? Are those equivalent?
(Other than, you know, the click vs fail method...)
 
dang, I was about to make the joke!
 
You just spell function as =>?
 
no, not only that
it gets lexical binding
 
That sounds fancy. What is it?
 
2:08 PM
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Q: What is lexical scope?

Subba RaoWhat is a brief introduction to lexical scoping?

basically you do not need to worry about variables from outer scope when using a lambda
 
@CodyGray In JS you can use this but for normal functions, it's determined depending on how they are called. In fact, it's best to think of this as just an implicit argument passed to the function. Arrow functions have a set this that never changes once they are created.
 
Was there another candidate that's been deleted/retracted or did Election bot just fail on the non-announcement?
 
there was a hiccup when SO went offline unexpectedly
and the bot managed to finish the rescrape
 
OK. Thanks :)
 
SO didn't go offline...
@VLAZ What does this have to do with anything?
 
2:12 PM
@CodyGray how would you describe it? :)
 
I don't know, your bot freaked out. SO didn't have anything happen to it.
 
the problem is it got 503 from SO :)
> 503 Service Unavailable. The server is currently unable to handle the request due to a temporary overloading or maintenance of the server.
 
So...
 
@CodyGray It's the main difference between an arrow function and a normal function. There are a few others but not that important. If you don't use this in a function, then function(x, y) { return x + y; } converts to (x, y) => { return x + y; }
 
which is exactly what I meant by "when SO went offline unexpectedly"
 
2:14 PM
function() creates a nested function, which inherits everything from the outer scope, whereas => creates a lambda, which doesn't inherit anything from the outer scope except this, which is implicitly passed in?
 
=> will use the this from where it was defined. Other than that, they work the same. Both still have access to anything in the surrounding scope.
 
OK, I'm very confused, then. In the case I described, they were both defined in the same place.
8 mins ago, by Cody Gray
What about this .click(function() { ... }) versus your .fail(() => { ... })? Are those equivalent?
 
yes, they were :)
 
Yes, in this case. But you were asking about the lexical binding.
 
But... if the lexical binding is exactly the same, then it's not a difference?!
 
2:17 PM
this is lexically bound.
 
I've no idea.
this doesn't appear in the code anywhere.
 
ok, ok, let's put jokes aside - I understand what you meant there :) There is, pragmatically, 0 difference in my change to lambdas in those cases
 
Yes, hence the two are equivalent here. Main difference between arrow and normal functions is that for arrow functions, this is lexically bound. I was answering your question about "what is it". That is why I mentioned this - there is mostly a difference in how its value is determined.
 
And how is this determined for function()?
 
^^ Oleg is right, though - no difference in this case. And a lot of others when you use callbacks.
 
2:20 PM
What you're describing for arrow functions seems like... the only way I would ever imagine it to work
 
oh, someone's going to learn the joy of this with "normal" functions in JS :)
 
I find this frustrating. Which I find very telling. Because I always have found, and do still find, learning [new] things about other languages to be fun and interesting, not frustrating.
 
thankfully these things are mostly historical
 
How so?
They don't behave this way anymore?
 
nobody uses function unless they explicitly need this or this is a transpiled code :)
 
2:28 PM
....I see. I use it all of the time, because it is the only thing I know. It is the only thing I know because I see it all of the time in code.
It is not long enough ago in the past to call it "historical", in my experience.
 
well, "nobody" is obviously a generalization - there is still a lot of code written using function
 
@CodyGray Sensibly? Yes. I've got a theory: this is the worst mistake in JavaScript.
 
what is historical about them is problems with this
 
Mostly naming it. It's fine to work as it is but the name leads to a lot of subverted expectations.
 
didn't you hear that subverting expectations is great? :)
 
2:31 PM
The name implicitArg describes it better and probably won't cause as many bugs.
 
so... let's have some fun? :) @CodyGray, what do you think will be logged here:
(() => {
    class A {
        logThis = function () {
            console.log(this);
        }
    }

    (new A).logThis()
})();
 
@OlegValter You put the fun in function...
 
A lot of the problem is that JS uses the same names and syntax as other languages, but... does it differently.
 
yes, that is a prominent problem in JS
 
@OlegValter I cannot even make sense of that code.
 
2:36 PM
@CodyGray well, you can run it instead :)
 
That...
No
That's not how you figure things out
 
I know, I was joking - so, in the first case, this is an instance of class A, pretty simple so far, right?
(() => {
    class A {
        logThis = function () {
            console.log(this);
        }
    }

    const { logThis } = (new A);

    logThis();
})();
^ now this
 
Well, I'm still trying to figure out something more basic than that
You're creating a function object?
 
@CodyGray It's how nuclear scientists found out that detonating an atomic bomb would not set the entire atmosphere on fire and destroy the planet.
 
That... contains a function object?
 
2:38 PM
True story, unfortunately, they weren't quite sure.
 
@VLAZ It's how some of them figured it out. Others were quite certain.
 
@CodyGray hmmm?
 
A function object that contains a function object
I don't know, I can't make sense of it
 
@CodyGray Some scientists were also quite certain that human-made flight is impossible. Sometimes being wrong is good. Other times... could kill the entire planet.
 
The syntax does not make any sense to me at all
It's just a bunch of punctuation marks
 
2:40 PM
wait... are you talking about the immediately-invoked function expression that wraps the examples?
 
I suppose so
 
the (() => {})(), right?
 
Yes
 
ah, well :)
 
I read code left-to-right... that's the first thing
 
2:41 PM
busted! All this time Cody was a tokenizer
 
Also fun fact Fermi, known for his paradox was in charge of the project. He refused to run the tests until people could show that the chance of destroying the planet was not more than one in a million. OK, I can't remember what certainty he set but must have been a tough choice in any case.
 
Yes, of course!
And, yes to the other conversation
 
@CodyGray ok, I see, sorry, it was hard for me to parse the meaning of "function object" as functions in ECMAScript are objects
 
Ah
I struggle with functions being objects
In every world I've ever lived in, functions are not objects.
 
you are not alone in that :)
 
2:43 PM
You can make an object behave as if it were a function. But... it's not a function. It's an object.
 
@CodyGray Does C++ have a way of making executable objects?
 
Yes... functors.
 
Oh, right.
 
A struct with an overloaded operator() so that instances of it can be called as if it was a regular function
I've used one.... once.
 
Well, functions in JS are executable objects. Per spec they are an object with a [[Call]] internal method. And if you do x() JS will search for that on x and run it.
 
2:45 PM
@CodyGray well, you live in JS Wonderland now, where everything is possible
 
Although perhaps that is not entirely fair, because the standard library provides commonly-used ones, like std::less, which is a function object that performs less-than comparisons on objects.
OK, so the functions are implemented as if they were function objects.
Heh, well, you understand that I have enough trouble grasping this type of run-time dispatching.
 
@CodyGray yeah, sorry about that :(
'tis what we got
 
I have been going progressively... down over the past several years.
I started with VB, went to VB.NET and C# simultaneously, then C++, then assembly. Now, I'm mostly down to building the electronic circuits. :-)
With some MATLAB thrown in there as of late, too.
Even in those "high-level" languages, there's not a lot of run-time dispatching and weird magic going on.
 
@CodyGray Time to start building the circuits in JS. I'm sure you can use jQuery for that.
 
2:48 PM
And I've been progressively moving away from that way of thinking. And realizing how much I actively dislike it.
 
oh, but you are still going down, @CodyGray - look how far you've fallen, discussing this with JS guys
 
C++ can, for example, do run-time dispatching. But... that way lies lurking bugs, so I avoid it.
I wasn't kidding when I said earlier that one of the worst things to happen would be a run-time error.
I spend a lot of time moving everything that can possibly be detected at compile time into a static error, so it is specifically not a run-time error.
Works best if the code compilation fails, than if the aircraft's systems crash. :-)
And I'm one of those weird people who looks at C code and sees the underlying assembly. I can do it with C++, too, but I wouldn't say it's natural like it is with C. I have to think about it, think like a compiler.
 
@CodyGray Yes, that's my preference, as well. As somebody who occasionally sits in a plane for a few hours.
 
Heh
I don't do flight systems!
So you won't die if my software crashes!
(Not yet. Maybe some day. :-))
 
I'd still love it if the software on the plane I'm on doesn't crash. Even if it was written by a non-Cody. I'd love it even more if no software on a plane crashes.
 
2:52 PM
so... speaking of IIFE
(() => {})()
() => {} is obviously an arrow function
 
Looks like one of those weird smiley faces.
 
I'm very happy that my script was substantially improved, though. That fixes some irritating bugs that I've been dealing with for a while now.
 
༼ つ ◕_◕ ༽つ
 
Haven't even tested the migration thing, because.... there's never anything to migrate.
 
2:54 PM
How is a function expression different from a function object?
 
oh, you mean from function declaration? :)
 
@CodyGray It returns a function object. No difference here.
 
But aren't functions already objects?
What's special about them when they are made into expressions?
 
But prevents other syntax bugs where () => {}() might not be interpreted as "an arrow function that is immediately executed".
 
fact (a) - expressions are not hoisted
fact (b) is unrelated to arrow functions, but is important for functions declared with function
because they allow for creation of anonymous functions that are, for example, assigned to a variable or used as a callback, etc
 
2:58 PM
@OlegValter I thought this here would be the window object :O
 
Functions are objects. Why aren't they directly assignable to variables?
 
@CodyGray They are..
 
Mmm
OK
 
@CodyGray They are const f = () => {} also const f = function() {}
 
Maybe too late for me to brain.
(early?)
 
2:59 PM
@CodyGray they are :) that was a usage example rather than something intrinsic
 
Thanks VLAZ. An example was clearly much better :)
 
because you can still do:
 
There are just so many damn equal signs and parentheses.
 
function named () {}
var renamed = named;
 
This is also assigning a function to a variable const { logThis } = (new A); The logThis is now a variable that is the function of the same name.
 
3:01 PM
@CodyGray Google tells me the time in Texas is 10AM. And you have been here in chat for the whole day (for me). So, have you slept? Or is that only for the weak?
 
I have not slept
Not for the week :-)
 
Generally it's recommended to sleep.
 
@Scratte why?
@VLAZ not if you are already insane :)
 
It takes so much time
 
agreed
 
3:02 PM
@OlegValter Because as I understood it, if this isn't defined in a scope, it's the window object :(
 
can't get anything done while sleeping
 
@CodyGray Sleep is for the weak sane.
 
@Scratte "this isn't defined in a scope"? :)
 
All of this implicitness...
 
@Scratte You were actually almost right. The value of this is undefined because the code implicitly runs in strict mode. If it was in sloppy mode, it would have been window.
 
3:05 PM
@OlegValter If it's (the code that contains the this) not inside an object.. where this is defined, then I thought it would just be the nearest object up the hierarchy.
@VLAZ Oh!.. OK. Thanks :)
Sorry.. repasting because scrolling is hard:
(() => {
    class A {
        logThis = function () {
            console.log(this);
        }
    }

    const { logThis } = (new A);

    logThis();
})();
 
@Scratte I see - well, just a bit weird to talk about this in terms of "defined"
 
But why is the this no just the IIFE object?
 
why would it be?
 
It's an object that surrounds the function at the time it's called.
OK. Let me ask it a different way. How do I reference the IIFE itself inside the IIFE?
 
@Scratte You cannot.
 
3:08 PM
you don't
 
Because it's not an object? Or.. ?
 
You either need to give it a name or alternatively you can use what's called the Y combinator, which allows an anonymous function to reference itself. But from a language perspective - not possible.
 
And just for clarity: IIFE = Immediately-Invoked Function Expression
 
Correct.
 
So it's not an Object?
 
3:10 PM
I mean...it is. But it hardly matters.
 
I don't understand the this keyword in JavaScript :)
 
In (1 + 2) + 3 the result of (1 + 2) is till a number. But you can never really examine it, as the full expression resolves before you can.
 
I'm used to this being the object that surrounds it. It's just the variable name for the surrounding object.
 
@Scratte You'd find many don't.
 
@Scratte well, welcome to JS
 
3:12 PM
To be honest uses of the this keyword in lambdas in Java throws me off.
Because I don't know which object that it refers to anymore. Especially not when the lambdas gets passed around.
 
so... I was itching to ask about the next examples:
(() => {
    class A {
        logThis = () => {
            console.log(this);
        }
    }

    const { logThis } = (new A);

    logThis();
})();
 
@OlegValter I was expecting it to print the entire IIFE
But it doesn't. It just prints undefined.
 
'scuse me?
 
Oh.. oops.
 
For some people, this information helps, so I'll give it a go: Here is the design problem around this - you have a language with prototypal inheritance. So many object instances can share the same methods. And each method is also an object. You want them to share the methods, because each method also takes up memory itself. You don't want 1000 objects to make 1000 copies of the methods, hence they all use 1. Yet, when that method is called, it has to use this to refer to the instance.
THAT is why this behaves as it does. When you call a function, at that point is the value of this determined. If you do a.foo() then this = a because it was the a object that called it. But b.foo() makes this = b. Remember, they both share only one method.
 
3:16 PM
See, for me, it seems like it's just that entirely different terminology is used for otherwise identical concepts.
 
@OlegValter Hmm.. the () => makes it behave differently :O
 
What the heck is "prototypal inheritance"? How's that different from an interface?
 
@CodyGray And you are correct. As I said, I don't like the name of this.
 
@Scratte and now we backtrack to "lexical scope" :) What is the lexical scope of this arrow function?
 
Well, I don't see the problem with this.
It makes perfect sense in the explanation you just gave.
 
3:18 PM
@Scratte Wait.. so the function definition doesn't get the this attached, but the () => gets it?
 
@CodyGray With prototypal inheritance you have a live object that other object inherit properties and methods from. An interface is not a concrete object.
 
Meh. A concrete base class can provide an interface.
 
@CodyGray Yes, it does. It's just that the name is misleading. And without that explanation, you don't even know how or why would this ever be different.
 
Of course you do... it always refers to the object on which the method is being called.
It is exactly the same as member functions in C++, getting passed an implicit this.
 
@Scratte exactly - because when you call a function extracted from an object, it will get this from its execution context. But the arrow function will get a binding from lexical scope at the time it is defined - thus, you can extract it however you want
 
3:22 PM
So the lambdas are closures..
And functions are not.
 
Yeah
It's the same problem as freaking variable declarations again
The language was designed by someone with no experience whatsoever
 
@Scratte not exactly
 
It would be like if I tried to design my own programming language. Oops!
 
@OlegValter Great.. the plot thickens ;)
 
@CodyGray That's the problem, it's very easy to accidentally loose the caller:
class A {
  constructor(foo) {
    this.foo = foo;
  }

  bar() {
    return this?.foo;
  }
}

function callCallback(cb) {
   return cb();
}

const a = new A("hello");

console.log(a.bar());
console.log(callCallback(() => a.bar()));
console.log(callCallback(a.bar));
Last one logs undefined because it's not a that calls the method.
 
3:25 PM
{
    var i = 5;

    function wrappy () {
        return function () {
            return i;
        }
    }

    console.log( wrappy()() );
}
@Scratte so, what would you expect to get? :)
 
@VLAZ That's because you started playing too many games :-(
 
@Scratte All functions in JS are closures. Which...isn't very helpful perhaps.
 
@CodyGray Sometimes I will read up on how to make compilers.. and suddenly weird rules start to make sense to me. Before I had to memorize them. But finding out how the compiler works removes my confusion.
 
Like, seriously, every language is hard to understand when you write convoluted code!
Yeah, understanding compilers and assembly language makes most everything other than JS start to make a lot of sense.
 
@CodyGray The code I showed is for illustrative purposes but it's a very real problem that many experience: element.addEventListener("click", someObj.someMethod) is a typical example where this is lost when executed. How to access the correct this inside a callback is the fourth most frequent Q on the JS tag.
 
3:30 PM
I don't understand the confusion... Why don't you just pass in a reference to the context or object that you want?
 
@OlegValter 5.. I think.. it's in the scope of the log.
 
@Scratte ok... let me tweak it a little
{
    function wrappy () {
        var i = 5;
        return function () {
            return i;
        }
    }

    console.log( wrappy()() );
}
 
Now.. I expect it to be undefined. Because i is lost in the scope that it's called in.
Ohh! It's 5.. :O
 
that's what happens when somebody assumes functions are not closures [in JS] :)
 
But how is it 5?!?
 
3:34 PM
why not?
 
Is that because the function wasn't "taken out" of the context that it's in?
 
The inner function closes over all the variables in its scope. This includes i.
Hence, a closure.
 
and hence, the availability of an i
 
So if I did const fun = wrappy(); fun(); it would not be 5?
 
It would still be 5.
 
3:35 PM
I think we are going to break @Scratte :(
 
The function does the closing over at creation time. Not at execution.
 
@OlegValter Yes.. I'm feeling a little broken now :)
 
What you describe is called "dynamic scope". But it doesn't happen in JS. Can't remember which language has it (maybe Perl?) but wherever it is, you can do something like i = 42; wrappy()() and you'd get 42 because it will use the i from the place it is executed.
 
@VLAZ Oh.. but.. hmm.. how is this different from i?
 
@CodyGray on an unrelated note - thank you, it is also the most hilarious [in a positive sense] edit summary I've seen in a while :)
 
3:37 PM
this is an argument passed into the function when it runs. It's separate from the scope chain.
 
@OlegValter Which?
 
@Scratte then get a fix! Do you still have your warrantly?
@CodyGray the *-kthxbai one :)
 
@OlegValter That's a catch 22 problem. I may have, but I forgot ;)
 
oh, so you memory is broken too?
 
@OlegValter Oh, that. That was many hours ago...
 
3:40 PM
I just noticed :(
 
Pretty much all shell scripts are dynamically scoped (e.g., Bash)
It is much easier to implement from a parser perspective
But not popular in real languages, because it defeats the purpose of modularity
It certainly isn't the behavior I expect when looking at code :-)
At least there's one way in which JS isn't defying expectations, I suppose.
 
Yes, it makes the variables into implicit parameters, as well. If the function uses x and y, you have to know that in order to define them. It's much more modular to accept x and y as parameters.
 
But I still find it very confusing, frustrating, and not fun.
I also think... wow, no wonder some of those CS interns I've had seemed like they didn't even understand the basics about programming.
They probably had their heads warped by this kind of stuff
 
@CodyGray That's the story of my life every time I need to understand something..
 
@Scratte See, that's horrible. It is not something I've... I want to say ever?... experienced before. Certainly not frequently.
If this were the experience I'd had with programming, I'd never have gotten interested in it.
 
3:45 PM
@CodyGray Unfortunately, it's true. I see many questions in JS from, what seems like, people with programming experience. But all they've learned is JS and they don't have a grasp on fundamentals of programming.
 
Right. It's not as if they have a deep understanding of JS, either.
It's just more the "keep trying until it works" type... So they don't really understand anything.
 
@VLAZ are you sure they've actually learned it? To me, those questions look like they just use it
 
@CodyGray Enough to build the site they need.
 
Is it any wonder that most websites suck, too?
 
@OlegValter Fair distinction. I guess they got through one of those courses that's "here is how to be a programmer" and it's 2-4 weeks long.
 
3:47 PM
@CodyGray oh, for that, blame the PHP guys :)
 
Their language seems a lot less terrible?
 
It...has different issues, I think.
 
Yeah. Not designed. Just happened.
Not a good way to design things.
 
I honestly think I've learned a lot from my year of writing PHP. And a lot of it was what not to do.
 
Everybody gripes about VB, but I don't get it. It's thousands of times clearer, more elegant, more expressive, and less surprising of a language than any of these.
 
3:49 PM
@VLAZ more like "I am using it intuitively" kind of thing since it is so easy to use without thinking. Once you start, though...
 
I mean classic VB, not .NET stuff.
 
@CodyGray It is quite frustrating to me. But I think there's not much to be done, but just try to read more about a subject when I need understand something. "Getting it" never came fast for me.
 
Usually, when I can't get something after this much effort, it means there's something wrong :-)
 
maybe you just need to sleep more than once a week? :)
 
@CodyGray Maybe there is.. maybe I'm just slow. I don't think I can help that.
 
3:53 PM
Yeah
I think I need to sleep now, for sure
 
On the upside, once I understand something.. I can easily teach it to others.
 
I had meant to do that hours ago
@Scratte Wait, why is that an upside?
 
@CodyGray I've met a lot of very bright people that just doesn't know to teach anything. They tend to make a whole lot of assumptions about the knowledge of the learner. And they speak almost in tongues and are very cryptic to anyone that doesn't already understand what they know.
 
@CodyGray I do not disagree. JS is evolving into a better language but the roots of it are very shaky and make any learning effort more difficult than what it should be.
 
@CodyGray Also.. that was a typo ;)
 
3:56 PM
Oh!
Well, that's more clear.
I wondered if it might have been, but decided it wasn't. Usually, your typos are leaving out bits, not adding in extra bits.
 
@Scratte I must admit, I have trouble explaining stuff, as well. Sometimes it goes the opposite direction and I explain a lot more of the background stiff than really needed.
 
I recently installed the typo++ version. It typos in every possible direction.
 
I would love to get into a conversation about teaching, pedagogy, etc., but that would be going in the wrong direction of this "sleep" plan.
 
@Scratte may I suggest upgrading to TypoScript? I heard it is good in ahead of time typo checking
 
@VLAZ I sometimes have trouble understanding what you're trying to say. I don't think there's a lot to be done other than just keep at it :) I can perfectly understand how it's hard to transfer what's inside one's head.
 
4:00 PM
@CodyGray please no - I need to go to sleep badly too :(
 
@CodyGray Don't worry. We'll have a huge transcript waiting for you when you wake up ;P
 
Did you mean "if"?':)
 
@OlegValter I've never failed to wake up. Dunno about Cody. Well, sometimes I fail to wake up at the hour I want, but I do wake up.
 
@VLAZ if you were to fail to wake up, would you be here?
 
No. Thus proving my track record of waking up.
 
4:04 PM
@VLAZ That argument is flawed :)
You could just be the lucky winner of X repetitive wakeups. It only takes one non-wakeups to stop the process entirely, and in the history of human kind, that seems to happen at some point to everyone ;)
 
I don't remember decomposition to be a part of sleeping
 
There is however a jellyfish (I think it's a jellyfish), that can reboot after a non-wakeup.
@OlegValter I think you decompose what you don't need to remember when you sleep.
 
@Scratte Ah, but after thousands and thousands of wake-ups, one failed one would be a miniscule percentage of the total. And any statistician can tell you that this could very well be attributed to a measurement error and therefore, not relevant.
 
@VLAZ Yes, I see. That's a very good point. I suppose from statistics alone, you're immortal :)
 
I am, yes.
I have definitely not died so far.
Thus statistically being immortal.
 
4:09 PM
I knew someone that died several times.. but would still be considered immortal.
And they're dead now.. hmm.
 
Common sense?
 
I think the new black is "uncommon sense"
 
"endangered sense"
2
 
speaking of common sense - I think I am off for the day, cheers!
 
See ya! o/
Oleg also keeps weird hours, right?
 
4:18 PM
I'll stay up and talk to myself ;)
 
I talk to my self also when I'm sitting or lying down. I don't feel like limiting my conversations.
 
But not when upside down? You shouldn't limit yourself.
I'd add in floating and flyting too ;)
 
I've not been to Australia yet, so I had no reason to add that stipulation.
 
Now that Mummy is sleeping, no one is going to cut off our heads ;)
 
4:28 PM
We should take the opportunity to teach Booty something new. Like how to make a cake.
@UserScriptersBot do you want to learn to bake?
 
Booty is scared of everyone but Mummy :)
 
There is nothing to be scared about - it's just using the oven that can kill you and knives which can also kill you. Also other things like flour, sugar, forks, which can also kill you in large enough quantities.
 
And eggs..
 
4:44 PM
And milk, too. All deadly stuff.
 
Actually, I think baking soda is faster ;)
 
A cow falling on your head can kill you very fast.
Stay in school, kids, don't do milk.
 
So can a satellite..
 
Don't do satellites, kids.
 
LOL! I did not see that one coming :)
 
4:57 PM
@Scratte Neither did people who were crushed by cows and/or satellites.
 
It's too late to ask them.
 
May they rest in pieces.
 
 
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6:46 PM
Big colourful theme this year for nominees.
 
Yes.. only Shree is breaking the contract :D
 

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