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6:02 PM
@OlegValter I am so sorry. I wanted to approve your edit but Community rejected it.
 
@KevinM.Mansour Community doesn't reject an edit on it's own. It rejects edits when there are conflicts or if author rejects it.
 
@Scratte What?
Two conflicted edits?
@Scratte I didn't reject. i just clicked approve then I see please refresh page since others rejected it.
 
@KevinM.Mansour that's ok, the user with privilege overrode the edits
 
It was rejected by Community because someone made an edit that was instant and submitted after the suggestion.
 
the only problem I have is with SE here
that can't be bothered to change the wording despite multiple requests
 
6:06 PM
They may not even have noticed that there was a suggestion. They very likely could not notice if they started their edit before the suggested edit was submitted.
 
@OlegValter I can't. Moderators only.
 
@KevinM.Mansour I mean that a user with edit privilege made a similar edit that was incompatible with mine, that happens
 
Yes. Now Oleg has one rejected edit. And it makes it look bad. Instead of having a neutral name and it's own category.
 
I have a small bunch of those on main, that's basically the only ones ever rejected from me (+ a couple of edits on no longer existent tag while we were ironing out the tag system in our community)
 
I have one. Then I stopped editing.
In my case the conflicting edit came in much later than my suggestion.
 
6:08 PM
@Scratte I have thick skin :) Surprisingly, though
@Scratte btw, see? They got a reply from Aaron and positive response in general. It's not as bad as you think :)
 
I noticed the response from Aaron. I like Aaron :)
 
@OlegValter I understood now. :)
 
@OlegValter True. So I don't break my own convictions I'll make an exception and say: Kevin just got lucky :D
 
@KevinM.Mansour yeah, I mean I do not like it when it happens, but that's not a big deal. If I were to sweat this stuff, I'd be out of here (SE) long ago. There's bigger bs we have to put up with
@Scratte whatever works for you :) I think it is more than luck, but we can shake hands at that
 
@Scratte Kevin is always lucky no?
@OlegValter Thank you. :)
 
6:15 PM
@OlegValter Let's elbow.. during covid ;)
 
@Scratte ah, sure, sometimes I forget about that - I don't go out much lately
 
Me either.. I open the window though.
I got a vaccine.. :)
 
@Scratte oh, if that counts - I go out a lot :)
@Scratte still stalling on that - no reason in particular, just laziness
and I heard we made a pretty good one (I wish its reputation wasn't botched by usage in political games)
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Q: A simple way to make new answers more discoverable

Hymns For DiscoIn my opinion, one shortcoming of Stack Exchange is the discoverability of new answers on questions. This simple feature proposal would make it more enticing for users to discover new answers, while not being intrusive or changing the default answer order. What the answer section typically looks ...

^ thoughts?
 
@OlegValter I found that stalling is of no use. The vaccine is not going to change anymore, and the lines are only getting longer every day.
 
@Scratte I know - that's why I say - laziness :)
 
6:25 PM
I'm not sure I understand what they want.
 
> The only change is the (3 hours) which indicates (intuitively, I hope) that the most recent answer activity was 3 hours ago.
^ seems like this is the extent of it. Not sure if it's worth it either
 
But don't you get the same by pressing "Active" and then not go lower down the list than 3 hours from now?
I mean if this is to be done with a user script, you'd just have to apply "active" and then remove all the post posted before "3 hours ago". I think.. it's not worth it.
 
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Q: Submit button is truncated on Contact page

αλεχολυτ"Submit" button is truncated at the bottom of the Contact page:

hahahahaha. I can't help it, sorry
 
Is that "truncate"? :D It looks like it's just not centered.
Unless it's suppose to say "Submit ..something"
 
@Scratte no, it just overflows the container height
and the funniest thing is that it's not a rookie mistake this time
 
6:33 PM
So, the button is suppose to be bigger?
 
@Scratte the button is ok
there is just too much stuff in the footer
 
There's a "overflow-hidden" class on the container.
<div class="overflow-hidden px8 mxn8">
 
@Scratte that's correct
another way to solve it is via by changing this:
.gs64 {
    margin: -32px;
}
 
Those negative margins never worked on paper either :D
 
Looks like that button sits in a <div> that is missing the 'grid' class. so <div class="grid"> fixes it. — rene 5 mins ago
 
6:47 PM
Nice. Three fixes already :)
 
@double-beep I am not sure I agree with rene, though
* in a sense that it does not have to be a grid div but the solution is still valid
 
🤦‍♂️
 
because the problem is mostly caused by gutters via negative margins
something like mb8 for the button container is less intrusive IMO
@double-beep is this about FIRE extended userscript?
 
yeah
 
scratch that, I forgot to close devtools :) the name got hidden right under them
 
6:59 PM
why do I need to login to run npm install in the template repo?
 
@double-beep let's add dependabot config to it
 
I will do so, but I'm in the middle of adding the unit tests :)
(for 2 weeks)
 
@double-beep because of the generate headers scoped package :)
I wasn't sure I am ready to put it to NPM so published as a github package
I think there is no easy way to install those without .npmrc tagging along
@double-beep I can do that quickly later today as a PR if you don't mind :)
 
@Scratte in case you're watching the news these days. I remember an excellent Danish documentary from 2006 by Miki Mistrati. I'm rather disappointing that it isn't being mentioned anywhere these days.
 
That link doesn't get me anywhere.
Just to a page that looks like this
Ahh.. how the western world is abusing people for chocolate. I think it's not just chocolate.
I don't eat a lot of chocolate. I don't think I can help anymore than not eating chocolate.
 
7:12 PM
@Scratte can you see this link? I couldn't find the video itself online, only the first 8 minutes translated into Portuguese are on youtube.
I remember watching this, it was a really good documentary the best I've seen of its kind.
 
If it's about abusing people, then I'd rather not see it.
As I said I'm fine with not eating chocolate at all.
 
@Scratte did you actually see the links?
 
I saw the text in the links.
Ah, so the first one I'm not bothered about. Rich people eating drugs to combat the signals that their bodies are sending.. dies of the the drugs. Hmm.. yes, not really what I'd call concerning :)
 
@OlegValter no, you don't have to :)
@OlegValter how can I get read access at least?
 
@double-beep mm, wait, I think I've set everything up to be accessible with no extra work
you are a member of the org, so you should be able to just npm install
do you have more than one account maybe? The install should not be causing trouble
 
7:28 PM
I've logged in to registry.npmjs.org, but it's still complaining
 
@double-beep interesting, .npmrc should've taken precedence
@double-beep can you verify npm whoami --registry=https://npm.pkg.github.com?
I am always logged in to both NPM and GH packages globally - for me the install works just fine
there is a problem that npm can't guess that the registry for the scoped package is GH packages, but this is addressed by the local .npmrc
btw, does anyone know how metasmoke auto flagging process works? I've set up the flagging several days ago but none were used since. If that's nothing to be worried about that's ok, I'll just put my mind at ease - but I am worried I've misconfigured it somehow
 
7:44 PM
I think people in charcoal will know more than here though
 
@Scratte yeah, I am just hesitant to bother the HQ with that if someone here knows (maybe double-beep)
 
I would have thought they wanted to be "bothered" by someone willing to let a bot take over their flags ;)
 
@Scratte probably :) I have ~90 I can spare
 
I like to keep mine ;) I have 100 all days long :P
 
@Scratte I know :) I remember you getting into a brawl for that in March
 
7:55 PM
That reminds me I'd like to have the little blue box back.
@OlegValter Did I? How did it turn out?
 
@Scratte can you remind me what's that about?
@Scratte was it with Cerbrus? I think it was with them. Under one of the posts in the "downvotes are bad" chain
 
@OlegValter I think that was about edits. I'm not sure. They did find some old message of mine from chat. I found it to be quite personal and petty.
 
@Scratte are you sure? I am pretty sure I remember this being about flags
but if I misremembered, sorry - it was a busy weekend on Meta :)
 
@OlegValter Assuming you didn't customize the settings, and are just using the defaults, that's perfectly normal. I haven't checked the exact numbers, but I'd say about 1 autoflag is raised every couple of days.
 
About the little blue box. I made a feature-request in an Answer to Question Close Updates: Phase 1. But it was.. ignored.
 
7:59 PM
@cigien the thing is - I did customize those :) Initially, I followed the 280/1/1, then lowered to 260/1/1, and once even to 250/1/1 that got me turned off for a couple of minutes because the accuracy fell under the threshold
@cigien but I think I am just being paranoid - maybe it just needs some time to pick up
@Scratte - btw, you mentioned something about downvotes rant in the transcript - do you still have the screenshot? :) Or was it a me-bait? :)
 
@OlegValter Ah, I see. I'm afraid I don't know what the numbers should be in that case. Yeah, I wouldn't worry about it. By the way, being paranoid doesn't mean you're wrong ;)
 
@OlegValter I didn't even ping you on that, did I? How did you find that?
 
@cigien doesn't mean I am right either :) But I'll give it a month and then ask in HQ whether something went wrong. After I submit a PR that fixes the "NaN% Invalid" in the dashboard. Thanks anyway!
 
Sure :)
 
I like automating chores - the idea of SD speaks to me (too bad the codebase is in Ruby, though - I know very little about it to substantially participate). The same worldview flares me up like fire when people avoid automation and keep wasting each other's lives because said automation has 0.000001% of false positives.
 
8:07 PM
 
@Scratte much obliged :)
 
Quite a fortunate turnout. I usually boot my system on sundays.
 
@Scratte its nice that I decided to turn up earlier than initially expected :)
 
You set that on a schedule?
 
@Scratte yup
 
8:13 PM
:O Not sure I understand.. what was the schedule?
 
I just wanted to make sure I no longer want to hang a certain user :) So set a deadline to avoid the room while I cool down
 
Ahh.. I see. I'm not sure I want to know who that is.. I like my airways unobstructed :)
 
@Scratte don't worry, yours are in no danger :)
 
I'm still confused though. I expect some of that will keep being blurry.
If you read the transcript.. you'll probably find your username turning up quite a bit during your hiatus.
 
@Scratte I know, I've read it already :) I'd be back earlier if not for the pings, though
really needed to cool down for a while (and thanks for understanding the situation correctly, btw)
 
8:20 PM
lol! That is.. ironic :D I think I did ping you once on something about your new script.
 
@Scratte no, those pings didn't matter :) I think I addressed most but something tells me I missed yours
 
No problem :) I missed you, but I don't believe in force or begging or pestering.
 
@Scratte and that's very appreciated :) I am just passionate about editing
 
My guess was that it was about editing. I think the trigger also kind of grew for a while before the final drop made you leave.
I'm not sure sure which drop that was.. but I'm not going to ask for details.
My ping was about the userscript you posted on meta (with the typo in the link)
 
@Scratte exactly - I also do not like when I am being told that I see white when I see black :) Makes me truly mad
@Scratte ah, I remember it now
yes, I actually agree with you
I am working on that
I wrote today a small shell script for that
 
8:26 PM
I didn't want to push it because I figured I could try to do it myself later when I was done with all the other things.
 
should be up in the template repository tomorrow
 
Oh, that is soon. Will the install script have the name of the script? :)
 
@Scratte no-no, that's fine - it's something that's been on my mind for a while
@Scratte hm? It's just a utils folder with a simple shell script
that relies on the package I already made to generate the headers (although it can use anything named "headers.js")
 
Like "flag-overcharged.user.js" instead of "index.user.js"?
I will usually download the file and look at it before I decide to install it. Others will like an install link directly to the "raw" file for autoinstall.
 
@Scratte ah, that part
yeah, on my mind but unaddressed yet
 
8:30 PM
No rush :)
I know I made it, so I'm probably biased. But the logo is growing on me :)
 
@Scratte nah, it's a good logo indeed, I even got a second opinion - I like it too
 
You asked someone in real life? Or you mean you're the second opinion? :)
 
@Scratte where else :)
 
Lots of people online have opinions about things :D
 
@Scratte if I listened to people online, I'd go mad :)
 
8:35 PM
I guess I shouldn't tell you that they also live in the real world :/
Except me.. I only live online :P
 
@Scratte I thought you are prehistoric, how can you live online? :)
@Scratte no one knows :)
 
I went into hibernation.. and turned up inside a windows computer when it woke up..
Maybe that's why it won't sleep anymore. I broke it sleeping too long.
 
@Scratte what a hellish existence :)
 
I have some good days on chat.. sometimes I'm stuck on meta. That's.. not a good day :D
 
@Scratte what happens when servers go down for maintenance? :)
 
8:52 PM
I just hibernate again :)
As long as I'm close to Nuts, I'll be fine.
 
9:15 PM
3
Q: Contact page - issue with "My logins" description about navigation to the section

ArulkumarIn the Meta Stack Exchange Contact page's, Contact support section, when selecting the option as "I need to add or remove login credentials", there is a popup opened. In that, I see the description as "Open up your user profile page and click “my logins” in the top right", but currently there is...

@Scratte how close are you? :)
 
@OlegValter To my favorite nut? Far.. Scrat got that :(
So.. I expect the other one will light up the checker like a little Christmas tree. Saying some thing "176".. (days to Christmas :-)
 
@Scratte probably :) Not that much, methinks
 
@OlegValter Isn't this about updating the help?
 
@Scratte only if you are fixing an issue a day :)
 
I try to fix more than just one.. But I have more stuff than bugs/issues. There's also stuff I want it to do, that it's not doing.
When you have time, I'd like to ask you about the other one. I tried to make it more automatic with the modalElements object.. but there's still this one function call left before it can just go and create the thing "on it's own". The ones I pass in as extra listeners. Or rather another function to go into the listener.
 
9:23 PM
@Scratte yup :) It seems like "contact us" got a few eyes today :)
@Scratte sure
 
The first part and the last part are just copies from the Rework script.
But I didn't want to merge the two while I'm just working on the GUI. I'd also try to see if I can keep them separate. I'd really prefer the GUI to be an add-on to the other one.
It doesn't actually make any changes to review whatsoever. It does add an entry to your localStorage though with the defaultSettings.
 
@Scratte separate branch for now maybe?
 
@OlegValter Naah.. it's kind of one unit of work, no?
It's two separate files.
It's just two files that doesn't do the same thing. The code is only the same at the very top and the very end because I need that for the GUI to work, and I didn't want to create new logic for it.
One is the the script that changes review. The other is the GUI for the setting to the first.
Try to run the GUI.. you'll see the gear icon appear on the top right.
The copy doesn't start at the end "until" line 2551
 
@Scratte well, two files then? :)
 
True :)
Also only until line 184 there's a copy of the other.
 
9:31 PM
@Scratte that's a lot of lines :)
 
Everything between 184 and 2551 is unique to the GUI.
Yes.. I've been complaining about that, no? :D
Still shorter than the Request Generator.. Ha! :)
If I can find a way to make f.ex. line 965 be automatically generated, then I can create the modal bodies in a loop.
Most of those are just one line. (line 1185 & line 1186 is an exception)
But some of them have two elements as parameters.
 
9:47 PM
@Scratte do you expect me to know what l965 is? :)
 
@OlegValter I think you'll know if you open the file. I uploaded it.. I thought you'd be notified, since you're the master of the userscripters ;)
I think maybe I thought you knew what I was talking about.. which is kind of funny now :D
 
@Scratte I am subscribed, yes, but the default is @-mentions and participation :) I haven't changed those - so I failed to notice
@Scratte now imagine me sitting there and thinking "why is that mad squirrel talking about lines?" :)
 
That's OK :) I assumed you knew when you replied to my Christmas joke :)
 
@Scratte no, I just always reply as if I know everything :)
 
LOL! :) Makes sense :)
 
10:00 PM
@Scratte now you get it :)
 
No worries. If it's too much code, I'll make a minimal example to explain what I'm trying to do :)
Or I can explain the structure.
 
@Scratte no problem, I just won't get to it probably till early morning (have to work till then)
 
There's no rush. It doesn't even have to be this week.
 
@Scratte does it count as "this week" already where you live? :)
 
Yes.. it's 5 minutes past midnight :D
 
10:05 PM
@Scratte phew :)
 
"I need it this week!".. but.. there's only 2 minutes left of this week :( "Better hurry then, huh!" :D
 
@Scratte sounds like a normal customer to me :)
 
Fortunately I'm not a customer. I think I would not be able to afford it :D
 
2794 lines (2334 sloc) - I think that's trimmable
 
what are slocs?
But the top and bottom doesn't count. They're just copies from the other.
 
10:15 PM
@Scratte same as LoC :) most likely GH counts those by subtracting empty lines and comments
 
Standard lines of code? Serious lines of code? Sentient lines of code? Spurious lines of code?
 
@Scratte you'd be surprized :)
Source lines of code (SLOC)
 
Ha! I'd have never guessed that.. I was going to go with Sluggish lines of code :)
But I don't need to trim all of them. Just that part that creates the bodies.
 
@Scratte me too, I was unaware of the term
@Scratte hm, all of them? I think I can easily trim to 0 LoC :) Now, where's my delete button...
 
I like my empty lines though. They make it easy to read it :)
Heh.. that's too funny. Can you make it do the same thing with 0 lines? :D
 
10:23 PM
@Scratte no, I am not a senior dev yet :)
 
That's my line! ;)
 
@Scratte is it one of those 2794 lines? :)
 
Maybe.. in a link to chat :D
I think even one them has your name in it.
line 604 :) ..and 655
 
@Scratte proof or I am coining it :)
 
There are links to chat from those lines, no? :)
 
10:36 PM
@Scratte re:655 - hey, I only made a quick mockup! :)
 
That's all I needed :)
 
@Scratte to "I am not a senior dev yet" being your line? :)
 
Between us, you're the master.. and I'm the kitten :)
 
10:50 PM
@Scratte meaow, I guess? :)
 
I think it's the cats that say meaow, no? And the humans that go "kitty kitty kitty.. " :)
 
@Scratte I think I mentioned before that I am a cat, right? :)
 
Oh.. do you like lasagna? And hate Mondays? :D
 
@Scratte both true :) oh...
 
I know that cat :) It's red and round :)
 
10:56 PM
I am not Garfield, I swear!
 
You're famous! :)
 
@Scratte not as much as I'd like to be :)
 
You'll be "the Oleg, that started userscripters. Sold for a googolplex" :)
 
@Scratte some other life - sure :)
 
The thing about life is that you never know what comes next.
 
11:02 PM
@Scratte that's true
 
I think it's not even that far out.. it's the next thing. "customize your favorite site to your own liking"
Only most people can't do it. But they can download scripts made by others..
It's no different from downloading an app.
 
@Scratte the big corporate conspiracy to strip people of their free will and replace it with branded identity will put us down long before that :)
 
I'd like to be able to customize my youtube experience to set the width of the screen to whatever I want. I don't like that it autosets to some determined width by youtube.
I'm hardly the only one.
 
@Scratte hm, I am not sure I noticed? Maybe that's because I view everything fullscreen...
 
The repository can have a script for that :) Or for anything else that people want.
I never view anything fullscreen. And it really annoys me. Every video has a different width even :(
Some are probably concerned with the height. Why not have a script for that?
Some want to disable that annoying overlay of videos at the end.
 
11:08 PM
@Scratte well, I simply have a dedicated monitor for that :)
 
@OlegValter Right, but you get my point, no? :)
 
@Scratte default height choice is strange, yes
@Scratte of course :)
 
The sites themselves will have less control over how their content is viewed with this.
They can jump through hoops to try to force stuff, but it will not matter :)
It only takes one good developer and a GitHub repository to change the world ;)
 
@Scratte the beauty of JS taking over the web is that no one can now really force how things look without their app stopping working entirely :)
 
@OlegValter Funny, because it seems that youtube actually calculate the width based on the height. I can't really work out how to change it without ruining/cropping the picture.
 
11:18 PM
@Scratte 🤷‍♂️ never tried - but if you'll remind me sometime, I could take a look and advise
 
@OlegValter No rush... now I take out a tab from the other tabs, and just limit tab to the width I want the video to be. It's usually only 1/3 of the normal windows I have.
 

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