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3:00 PM
I also noticed another flaw. You wouldn't call it "truncating the 'k'"; it'd be truncating the word, not the part that is removed.
 
@OlegValter Thank you. :)
 
So.. I can't truncate a k to a c by removing the l?
 
No... a "v" on its side is not a "c" :-)
Without the line, what would hold it up there, anyway?
The left-hand point would just fall over.
 
@CodyGray but it's not "v" on its side, the lines are not elongated enough! And the angle is too wide
 
You're just very attached to your favorite font. I like curly k's with a rounded shape, just like my granny used to write them.
 
3:03 PM
Can I edit file name in GitHub Gists?
 
She wrote a "k" by drawing a vertical line, then a lower-case "c"?
 
It doesn't seem it have option?
 
@KevinM.Mansour Can you edit the file?
 
No, I don't think you can rename a Gist.
I found this cool website that has some info: stackoverflow.com/q/19896900
 
@Scratte I can't.
 
3:05 PM
@KevinM.Mansour Then.. I don't know. Never created one.
 
@CodyGray Thank you but that mean to edit The Whole Gist name but I have a file in that gist which I want to rename. in my personal account. Thank you. :)
@CodyGray Stack Overflow was always cool . ;)
 
@CodyGray I just like that one last Answer.. and the comment. It serves well to know what not to do :)
 
Err... how can you have a file in a Gist?
A Gist is gist a single file.
 
I dunno, surely no one can edit the filename of the gist :)
 
3:08 PM
Noooo!.. you didn't!
 
You helped persuade me to scroll all the way to the bottom. I hadn't before.
 
@CodyGray A gist is article which it might contains files as my understand.
 
I meant it though. It did serve the purpose quite well. I stopped posting links to posts in chat because I don't like it when they get deleted.
 
@OlegValter Than you. it worked. :)
 
@CodyGray ctrl (cmd?) + end?
 
3:09 PM
@Scratte What purpose did it serve? Knowing what not to do? That's just silly.
 
@CodyGray This is my Gist. which it contains JS file.
 
It's not like they made a common error. It just had nothing to do with anything.
 
@OlegValter What is cmd?
 
I've always thought Gists were a single file.
 
cmd is Command Prompt.
 
3:10 PM
No, cmd is the Command key on the Mac.
 
@KevinM.Mansour ⌘
 
@KevinM.Mansour So, there's no little crayon on the side? Where you can press it and edit?
 
You can try to find that Swedish campground symbol, but... that's too much work.
 
@CodyGray Isn't called Command?
not cmd?
@Scratte Yes.
 
"Cmd" is an abbreviation for "Command", much like "Ctrl" is an abbreviation for "Control".
 
3:11 PM
@OlegValter Thank you. :)
 
@KevinM.Mansour Did you figure it out?
 
We devs do that. We abbrev.
 
@Scratte Yes. I
 
@CodyGray I think you need to run
 
@CodyGray I am not a Mac User. I thought it always was called Command.
 
3:13 PM
I'm with Kevin. cmd is when you want to run the terminal program in windows.
 
^ huh :)
 
@CodyGray It helps to not make that same mistake.
 
@KevinM.Mansour it is a common abbreviation, though. No one can misunderstand what cmd means in a keyboard shortcut
 
@OlegValter I miss it. I am not a macOS user. I have never saw a macOS user that said : cmd means Command they always say Command + Something. :)
 
@CodyGray Ctrl is not an abbreviation. It's just 4 letters. My keyboard has those same 4 letters typed on two separate keys. That's how I know that there's a relation between them.
 
3:17 PM
@Scratte The mistake of not reading the question?
 
So if someone says to press Ctrl and A, I will press those two keys. (No, I'll not press any combination of keys just because I'm told to do so)
 
@OlegValter It is hard to produce the symbol. I do not now where you came from with that?
 
Cmd has been used as an official abbreviation for a long time, going back to the 80s. It was in manuals, books, etc.
 
@double-beep did you figure the question about Mocha while I was away? I am not sure you can do it top-level, but never tried myself to say for sure. I think you still have to wrap everything in a suite-wide describe if you want a suite-wide hook
 
@KevinM.Mansour It's not hard anymore. From now on until the end of time, you can just find it from Oleg's message here and copy'n'paste it :)
 
3:18 PM
@OlegValter I created different files
 
@Scratte Huh? Are you trying to say you're going to hold down the C, T, R, L, and A alphabetic keys?
 
@CodyGray No, there's no t, r or l keys. There's one Ctrl key. And there's T and R and L keys.
 
abbreviation: "a shortened form of a word or phrase.". @Scratte - note the "word" part, it does not need to be an acronym which is a specific form of abbreviation you are referencing right now
 
@Scratte I have never readed User Manual for macOS.
 
I know.. people do it in txtspk :)
@KevinM.Mansour Why am I not surprised?
 
3:21 PM
btw: Stacks v0.66.0 was released (the version with the grid/grid--cell deprecations).
 
I just watch WWDC; Beacause Apple Events are awesome and well made.
 
^ :O let me see if my script breaks.
 
@double-beep how long does it usually take for it to be rolled out? I am not sure I ever bothered to check
@Scratte methinks it will given some class names
and some of mine too
 
@Scratte Beacause Squirrels don't get surprised. ;)
 
It's not rolled out yet.
 
3:23 PM
gosh, can't SE frontenders just use significant ids for important elements?!
 
Or they get surprised when their userscript breaks. ;)
@OlegValter Why grid to flex. Is not a problem? :)
 
@double-beep you mean different spec files?
 
yes
 
@OlegValter Someone told me to use a config object, so it's just a small change for me when it's rolled out :)
 
@double-beep I see, yeah, that's a way to solve the problem
 
3:26 PM
@Scratte I agree. It was brilliant idea. :)
 
@OlegValter no idea... They haven't even synced the production branch
 
hahaha, I just found an eslint plugin rule disabling exactly what you wanted to do [well, as far as I understand it] :) repo
 
@double-beep "Disabled checkboxes, and radios now have full color" Wait, what? The whole point of disabled is supposed to be to change the visual appearance to something greyed-out so you can tell it's disabled...
 
they reduced the opacity
 
Ugh
 
3:27 PM
@CodyGray Little Blur.
 
@CodyGray I use a shaded colour for a disabled toggle..
 
@KevinM.Mansour I do not understand what you mean
 
Example. The lower toggle is on, but it's not in effect since the toggle that it depends on is off.
 
Yeah.
I really feel like changing the opacity is an anti-pattern.
It just screams "hack" to me.
 
3:30 PM
@CodyGray you are not wrong
 
Any element with an opacity less than 1 changes the stacking context. Why should disabling something have a side effect of changing the stacking context?
 
I didn't use the Stack-class for that.
 
usually it is better to grey out (or whatever colour represents disabled in your palette) disabled elements without changing their opacity
 
@OlegValter Changing grid to flex is not a problem.
Speciallyif you using config object.
 
@KevinM.Mansour Just so be clear.. It's Oleg's idea to use a config object :)
 
3:33 PM
@KevinM.Mansour the complexity of the fix is orthogonal to something being a problem
@Scratte config object is not my idea, it is a common pattern old as hell itself (I am aware I am playing with words :)
 
@OlegValter To me.. it is :) You're the one that taught me :)
I think I learned everything I know about JavaScript from you :)
 
@OlegValter I'm usually not. :-)
 
@Scratte You told me earlier.
 
@CodyGray such humility :) Still think you were wrong for overriding the review result (don't worry, I do not intend to debate)
 
The one from like 2 weeks ago that I've apparently completely forgotten about?
 
3:37 PM
I find the config object one of the most useful patterns ever (at least in JS). User settings are a breeze with it
 
I'm using 3 already..
I also think my GUI is going to set some red flags on your linter.. since I don't bother checking for null on element that I've created myself.
 
continuing about config objects: also function parameters, and especially in sharing of common parameters
 
I've used it where the parameters are variable.
So only some of them are set.
 
@Scratte stop calling TypeScript a linter please :) Yeah, probably, but that's not the end of the world
 
@OlegValter Oh. I thought those were two different checks.
 
3:41 PM
@CodyGray Yeah, that one :) I have a long memory. Sometimes...
does not stop me from forgetting the simplest git incantations though
 
Another elephant-reference? :)
That's different. They probably don't upset you.
 
@Scratte you think? They constantly upset me because I have to open my notes :)
 
Different kind of upset? :)
 
@Scratte btw, that's not Cody's decision that upset me. Anyways, I cool down quickly
 
@OlegValter I've been wondering about it.. I've had guesses, but I was afraid to ask.
 
3:46 PM
@OlegValter "I cool down quickly". Yes, I agree about that, I saw that earlier. :)
 
@Scratte don't be :) I bite, but gently
@Scratte yes, those are different, but the one checking for null is the TypeScript checker (ok, the structure is another matter for another time)
 
I understand and I will respect anyone who wants to take a break. It may not show directly, but I've been quite unhappy about the "separation", even if I don't try to push for a return.
 
@OlegValter Gently, you leaved the chat room for a week. :)
 
@OlegValter I'll probably need to run them myself. Then I'll have it sorted out in my head. It'll stop me getting confused about what is what. But I'm slow with the project still. Haven't put everything into GitHub yet :(
@KevinM.Mansour They're allowed to do that.
@OlegValter I'll ask about it later on :) If you don't tell me first.
 
@Scratte well, I mean, it's not wrong of you to think that, linters can do a lot
it's just that TS is not a linter - it will make those checks with or without esLint
 
3:53 PM
@Scratte Yes, but they used to came every day. since I joined room. but yes everyone is free to come and leave. :)
 
Heh.. I suppose the javac compiler isn't a linter either :D
 
@Scratte you bet :)
@Scratte no worries, and no rush
 
I know it may not seem so, but I'm working on this as fast as I can.. I just keep running into walls it seems where I'm not sure what to do.
 
I have found a Userscript created in 2015 for Stack Overflow Chat but it is not maintable in 2021, so I have just edited small things and gived it a name, So can I post it at Stack Apps or I need to be fully who developed the script.
 
@KevinM.Mansour two words: proper attribution
 
3:58 PM
And I will edit and add more features in the future.
@OlegValter Thank you. :)
 
I mean, how would you feel if somebody took what you made, made a couple of changes and published it for themselves?
 
@OlegValter I will add : My Script based on link which is developed by link. Is that fine?
 
even the botched version of the Kantian categorical imperative makes decision making in one's life much easier
 
@OlegValter It is not a good feel. I will add attribution..
 
@KevinM.Mansour depends on the number and significancy of changes made
 
4:02 PM
@OlegValter Small changes and gived it a name. Also it have a bug and I am working to fix bug before release.
 
@KevinM.Mansour something like a "this is a [slightly] modified version of the <script link> developed by <user link> in <year> that is no longer maintained by the author [if it is true]. I made the following changes and fixes:" should suffice
 
Not only "how does it feel if someone take what you make and then publish is as their own" which is probably not good, but if you do not add attribution as required (see the help center), you'll get the post removed. And probably a note on your profile about it that moderators can see.
 
@OlegValter OK, I will add link to his GitHub account.
@Scratte What? Cody Gray will see a note on my profile.
 
@KevinM.Mansour I don't know how it works, but if someone noticed, they'll probably raise a flag on the post. I would expect a note being put on the offenders profile before the post is removed.
 
@Scratte OK, Thank you. :)
@Scratte I will never make that happen.
 
4:07 PM
I don't know where you found the code, but you need to check with the license before you use it. Not all code can be used like this even if you give proper attribution.
If you cannot find any license information, it's under copy-right. And that means you can't take it and reuse it.
 
@Scratte good advice. Although I think it is a safe bet that GH code is licenced with an open-ish license
 
@Scratte In GitHub Gists.
 
@OlegValter I think.. that's a mistake :) The default is no license. See the repository I made. There's no license on that :)
@KevinM.Mansour That probably does not have a license. So unless it's mentioned, you can't use it.
 
@Scratte What? Sadly. :(
 
The gist you posted here does not have a license that I can see.
 
4:14 PM
@Scratte Yes, but everyone is free to edit and use. I don't have any problems.
 
@KevinM.Mansour But that wasn't my point :)
 
@Scratte Huh... I know.
 
Best case scenario: The user just forgot to put a license there. They don't mind.
Worst case scenario: They didn't put a license there on purpose. They're actually selling the product and when they find that someone has copied and distributed it, they'll sue that someone for 15$ per estimated download. Of course their estimated download is 1m :)
Then you can negotiate.. or battle it in court.
 
@Scratte that's true, the default is no permission - I do not say "don't check", just that it's probably a safe bet
 
Yes, I'm just always paranoid.. it keeps me safe from the world, I think :D
Of course I purposely did not add a license to the private repository, because I don't want it released until I'm happy with it.
 
4:24 PM
however, that's not entirely true that no repo license means no derivative work
 
Anyway.
 
> Any User-Generated Content you post publicly, including issues, comments, and contributions to other Users' repositories, may be viewed by others. By setting your repositories to be viewed publicly, you agree to allow others to view and "fork" your repositories (this means that others may make their own copies of Content from your repositories in repositories they control).
 
Is that from docs or Privacy Policy?
 
there is a takedown process, though, so of course it is not safe to use even with the clause
 
Anyway.
 
4:26 PM
@KevinM.Mansour ToS
 
@OlegValter Yes, but that is still inside GitHub. If I took some code there and put it in an Answer on meta.. I might get in trouble :)
 
@Scratte I don't disagree :)
I take licensing a little less into account than you but still think it is important
 
I am just working on big Chat Userscrippt. Which changes the Chat experience and have GUI to change options for sure with Yes/No. ;)
 
With Yes/No.. that kind of looks familiar :D
 
@KevinM.Mansour btw, since you have their GH, why don't you just ask for permission from them? They might still be active, and you can get collaborator access to their repository
 
4:29 PM
@Scratte Yes, A long time ago (From one hour) There was a Java developer that uses Yes/No in his userscript. ;)
@OlegValter How can I ask him as an Issue or Pull Request?
 
@KevinM.Mansour is this the one? Or this?
 
@KevinM.Mansour Then two real JavaScript developers said to use true/false instead :)
 
@OlegValter No. I checked If it is posted on Stack Apps but it is not .
 
Though I quiet like the "Yes"/"No". I need some more convincing that it's a bad choice.
 
@Scratte I mean, it's just common sense: if you are going to have a binary choice, use the data type specifically designed for that
 
4:33 PM
@Scratte I see it is fine.
 
@Scratte I don't think "I like it" is a valid justification in our field :)
 
@OlegValter What I like about it is that "false" would be true for a boolean field.
 
@Scratte that's what I do not understand :)
 
And I'd like for users to edit the userConfig without it doing stuff that they don't expect.
 
@OlegValter How can I ask him as an Issue or Pull Request?
 
4:35 PM
@Scratte I would not let a user who does not understand what a boolean is anywhere near the source
 
@Scratte we could also use "e9xcxwmbqc8" and "38iuja99an4" instead of "Yes" and "No", too
 
His last Contribution was in 5 Months.
 
If I use a boolean, it would make sense to use if (field) {...}, no? What if that field is set to "false", instead of false?
 
@KevinM.Mansour can you answer which one it is, please?
 
@double-beep What does that mean?
 
4:36 PM
@Scratte I ... do not understand. Why a boolean field would be set to a string?
 
@OlegValter Anyone can edit userscripts in their own environment. I do that all the time :)
 
@Scratte then it's their problem they are trying to edit source with no understanding of programming
 
@OlegValter The person that I want to use his userscript, so how can I ask him as an Issue or Pull Request?
 
So the idea is that if a user doesn't want the GUI, they can just play with the settings in the source in their own manager.
 
they are trolling me, are they?
 
4:38 PM
not... convenient, especially if somebody is not familiar with JS/TM
 
@Scratte then the onus is on them to know what they are doing
 
@double-beep Yes, and that would be fine. It would mean that anything other than "e9xcxwmbqc8" is false. But humans understand "Yes" better than "e9xcxwmbqc8" :)
 
@Scratte I understand that you probably do it for the sake of argument right now, but on an off-chance that it is not the case: "what if that field is set to "false", instead of false?" - what does that mean? A boolean field can only be boolean. If you expect it sometimes to be a string, something's wrong with the script
 
@OlegValter So, I fetch the value.. into a local variable. Then I check for it. Since it's a boolean, I'd just go if (myBoolean) {..}. So what happens when the value of it is "maybe" or "false"?
 
@Scratte I do not understand, sorry. Why would it sometimes be a string?
 
4:42 PM
I'll make an example :)
@OlegValter If a user set it wrong :)
 
@Scratte then they can go shoot themselves for all I care
if they set a boolean flag to a string by editing source
it's not like you are building a nuclear reactor
 
Hmm.. I see :) I guess that's where I'd like to guard against them making a mistake.
@OlegValter Can one even do that only with JavaScript code? :)
 
@Scratte that's a useless guard. By your logic, you should guard against any change
the same user can change the selectors, parts of your code, other config options
 
@OlegValter I explicitly mention that only "Yes" will turn a feature on.
 
there are reasonable guards and not reasonable ones. This one is not. Please tell me you are making this argument for the sake of it
@Scratte a statement earlier you said you guard because you do not trust your users. Why would you think they will follow your mention?
 
4:45 PM
@OlegValter True.. but if they do that.. then I'm fine with them being on their own. I put the userConfig on the top and made their names understandable so they'd be easy to change.
I'd rather have only "Yes" turns a feature on, than only false turns a feature off.
 
@Scratte that really does not matter. Document that the field accepts boolean true/false. Anyone stupid enough to put "maybe" there or a string "true" are not worth your time
 
Hmm.. but I know users. And some may even come and ask me why it's not working. And then I'll spend time on it.. and find that they put "false" somewhere in the userConfig :)
 
@Scratte after what you said above, I don't think you do, sorry :)
 
Is I am free to create repository in the Organization?
 
@Scratte that's a bad practice. A field should maintain its data type throughout the duration of the program - you of all people should know the importance of that (it's not like you are a JS developer :))
 
4:49 PM
@OlegValter It does. As of now it's a string :)
 
I just want to create repository for the Chat Userscript. :)
 
They're all strings :) I think you're misunderstanding :) Or I'm not clear enough.
 
@Scratte "I'd rather have only "Yes" turns a feature on, than only false turns a feature off."
 
@OlegValter Yes. If I use a boolean, then false will turn it off, no?
 
in my experience strings are denoted with quotes, booleans are not. So if the false is unquoted, it is assumed to be boolean
 
4:50 PM
And true will turn it on?
But abusing it and putting in a string will also turn it on.
 
@Scratte exactly (or vice versa depending on your logic)
@Scratte then it is just that - an abuse, and they deserve what they get. They don't even deserve a support time
 
I see what you're saying. I should not care if a user doesn't want the GUI and want to edit the fields themselves without it. If they make a mistake, that's just their problem. I just feel differently about it.
 
come on, there is a reasonable amount of precaution one has to take
 
@OlegValter But I will not know until I've already spent the time :)
 
@Scratte put those on the blacklist afterwards :) They are a scourge on humanity
 
4:53 PM
I thought you were so friendly with people :) And that I was the bad guy..
 
@Scratte I am friendly with people :)
 
what is this? upside/down day? :D
 
by my definition being a human involves having some level of reasoning :)
and what you describe is very hard to believe is an actual human being
they are either a troll which I accept as humans but have no patience towards
 
I've been at Stack Overflow for too long. I know that even developers have various levels of common sense and despite popular opinion some challenges when it comes to logical thinking.. which is why I made the design choice to begin with :)
 
@Scratte yeah, it was a severe shock to me at first when I saw that it is generally so hard for developers to actually think :)
 
4:58 PM
I see that my choice isn't very popular with logical and good developers :)
 
Is I am free to create repository in the Organization? Or I need to develop the script first and add it when I have completed most of progress or I must finish first to add as repository. My script is about Chat to make Chat Experience Better I am didn't start in it yet. It will contain features that make chat better.
 
@Scratte well, I just think you are really overthinking this. There is a line one has to draw when guarding
 
@OlegValter Exactly.. I was quite shocked too. So I made the decision: The only way to turn the feature on is by using the letters Y, e and s in that sequence and case and put then into a string :D
 
I mean, you are saying that you do not use a hammer because you think your coworkers are so dumb they will smash it in their heads as soon as they take it in their hands
in the end, the only one you are impairing is yourself (wait until you spend an hour for forgetting that "Yes" should be capitalized properly after making a typo)
 
@OlegValter No :) You know construction workers wear helmets, right? And special safety boots. Doesn't mean they're all stupid. Just that it's safer that way :)
 
5:01 PM
boolean is the tool for the job when it comes to binary. Or use what, I think, @CodyGray mentioned: 1/0
@Scratte exactly what I've been talking about, you missed the point
 
I'll consider changing it.
 
they wear helmets against accident and not because people worry they will fire a nail gun in their head deliberately :)
what I mean is that if you are worried that your users are so dumb that they are closer to primates with a gun that to a person, then you should probably just obfuscate the distributed code
 
Hey.. the boots are also for self-accidents. Like dropping a hammer on your toes. Kind of like accidentally putting "" around false (which I have done more times that I can count already)
 
@Scratte dropping a hammer is an accident of sloppy hands - it can happen with every person of any mental capacity
 
The problem is that I'm that dump too. As I just mentioned.
 
5:05 PM
@Scratte I don't think so
unless you are "an unpleasant or dreary place." :)
 
I have spent at least 3 hours trying to work out why my code wasn't working due to a string in a boolean.
 
@Scratte there is a difference:
you know the difference between a string and a boolean, right?
if you do, that's an accident
 
Chances are.. I'll waste more of my own time by doing this. Because I'll accidentally do it again.
 
and once you have a good IDE running, this will all go away :)
 
If "blah" was false.. then I'd have no issues with it. I have issues with the fact that everything other than 0, undefined and false is true.
 
5:08 PM
Where can I find documentation for Stack Overflow Chat Design System?
 
please, please get to the cleanup of the system - I am worried you spend too much of your time solving what should be caught by an IDE
@KevinM.Mansour I am not sure one even exists
 
@OlegValter Scratte is using Notepad as his IDE.
 
@KevinM.Mansour I know
 
Notepad++ for Java. TamperMonkey's editor for JavaScript.
 
@Scratte you forgot an empty string :) And null
 
5:09 PM
null is true, no?
 
@Scratte I see you are disseminating heresy around here :)
 
@OlegValter I want to study Stack Overflow Chat Design System, then start setup my Classes in the Userscript.
@Scratte You said that you use Notepad. :)
 
@Scratte null is the only falsy object in JS
 
@Scratte Null is empty, no?
 
@KevinM.Mansour null is not empty, it just means the reference does not exist
 
5:11 PM
@OlegValter I see. I try to avoid it :)
 
@Scratte it's probably for the best :)
 
@OlegValter Where can I ask about question like that? Stack Apps?
 
although I find it convenient to return it from functions that can result in either an object or nothing. Kind of like keeping the data type the same.
@KevinM.Mansour mm... Maybe on MSE? I don't know
 
@OlegValter What is MSE? Meta Stack Exchange?
 
it's so abandoned a feature that I am not sure one existed when they first created chat
@KevinM.Mansour of course
 
5:14 PM
@OlegValter I will get downvotes there....
Or I won't?
 
@KevinM.Mansour so what?
 
@OlegValter I am not sure. I am asing.
 
despite what others may think, I am not an omniscient god
neither do I possess clairvoyance
 
@OlegValter But you are userscript developer no? ;)
I will ask there and see what will happen there....
 
there is a school of thought I follow. Called pragmatism. Is your goal to get an answer or to avoid unpleasantness? No one can answer that apart from yourself
 
5:17 PM
Have you tried to search for it on the internet?
 
@KevinM.Mansour can you be more specific?
 
I think you'll either find the source by a search.. or it's not public.
Other than you can check out the code that is fetched in your browser.
 
@Scratte something tells me it is not public, it wasn't that popular (open source) back in the day. But who knows
 
@double-beep I want one like. but for chat design system? And thank you for help. :)
 
although judging from what chat CDN sends, the whole system is enclosed into a single CSS file
 
5:20 PM
@OlegValter Thank you. :)
@OlegValter Useless.
 
@KevinM.Mansour I don't think there's something similar for chat.SO
use devtools or unminify the CSS
 
@double-beep Where can I ask then?
 
I think they fired the last developer working on chat around 2019
 
@KevinM.Mansour nobody will be able to help
(unless they are a developer)
 
@double-beep :(
 
5:22 PM
create your own CSS or copy the classes of other elements
 
@double-beep I think it is not even minified (yeah, it's not)
 
@double-beep So why there is not Stack Documantion for Chat Design System? feature request?
 
It was made before documentation was invented.
 
@double-beep hm, thanks, I think I may have to check my devtools settings
 
5:24 PM
I will create my self elements. Similar to Design in Main.
 
Nice names for some of those .supernovabg{background-color:#fff4de !important}
 
@KevinM.Mansour you mean components?
 
@OlegValter Why? You said it is minified and that is correct. :)
@OlegValter Sorry. :)
 
@KevinM.Mansour still think it will not hurt to ask on MSE - maybe somebody has an idea
 
I will create my self components. Similar to Design in Main.
@OlegValter I will ask..
 
5:25 PM
like Aaron
 
@OlegValter :)
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I want to create userscript which it will change Stack Exchange Chat but since I will need first to study Stack Echange Chat Design first before I start to develop. I have found [Stacks](https://stackoverflow.design) but since Stack Overflow main components is different than Stack Exchange Chat, so Is there Documentation to study Stack Exchange Chat? I will be appreciated.
Question Title:
Is there Documentation for Stack Exchange Chat Design System?
Is that fine so far?
 
you already know the answer to "Is there Documentation to study Stack Exchange Chat"
what's the point in asking?
 
@double-beep Is there Documentation to study Stack Exchange Chat?
 
@double-beep Oleg Valter said I might get Idea from someone.
 
5:38 PM
The general idea is that you search first and ask later..
You can post your Question. It'll probably be closed against this one.
 
I have asked. Hope get answer rather than a downvote. :)
 
@Scratte I think things changed since then - it wasn't customary to make things open source, nowadays such an inquiry make get warmer reception
 
Then you can check out the linked post to those to see if any newer post has been closed against them.
 
but both are good finds of @Scratte's - you'd want to make them your "research"
 
@OlegValter But they didn't help?
 
5:44 PM
Well, my opinion is generally "If you can avoid it, don't ask a Question on the Stack Exchange network".. it's just not worth it.
 
@KevinM.Mansour that's exactly what you need - refer to them and explain why those are not enough. Otherwise, I agree with @Scratte here, it is likely to be closed
 
@OlegValter -1
 
@KevinM.Mansour - don't listen to them, I vehemently disagree with not posting inquiries :)
 
There are several things that needs to be in place when you ask a Question. It should be very well presented. It should come with all the research in it.. it should not ask for something.. it should hmm.. inquire ;) A Question is always a popularity contest and on meta.stackexchange even more so.
 
@OlegValter Thank you. :)
 
5:49 PM
I guess I'm just trying to protect you from the process of asking on the network :)
 
@Scratte don't :) They had a pretty decent run so far on Meta, I doubt they'll get wrecked from the start
with a good enough research notes, lack of history of bad blood, I think it is a relatively safe bet
 
Sure, one can always start to accumulate the "bad blood" ;)
But I like your optimism :)
 
@OlegValter I have added research for both answers @Scratte linked them.
 
@Scratte what can I do, sometimes my optimist avoids the pessimist long enough to make it through :)
 
Are they both in you? Or are you talking about you and someone else? :D
 
5:55 PM
@Scratte I am not in the mood for jokes.
 
Another priceless one:
Let's not do that. Instead we hope that editors remove that. — rene 22 mins ago
 

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