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Q: Users that answer questions and down-vote all other answers

DexygenFirst apologies if this is a duplicate but I searched including on Google. In any case, myself and another user were the first to answer the following question and both got up-voted twice: How to execute setInterval at a later time in the code inside conditional statements in javascript? Then a ...

 
 
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3:54 AM
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Q: How to link together these web-api question posts about getting the dimensions of base64-encoded images?

userI just encountered this question and thought- there's gotta be a dup target for this: How to get the dimensions of Base64 encoded image in JavaScript. I did a google search (get dimensions of dataurl image site:stackoverflow.com), and found a lot of related-looking Q&A- ones with similar question...

 
 
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7:12 AM
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Q: Why StackOverflow's code snippet show a different result compare with normal editor

Han HanToday, when I was answering a question, I observed that the result from the code snippet StackOverflow give us is different from other editors. For example, This and This both shows the right result, while StackOverflow's result is incorrect. I have already check the website code but it is just a...

 
 
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8:23 AM
pet peeves:
Title: "How do I X?" Body: <detailed description of a task that is **not X**>
Title: "How do I X?" Body: <huge code block of failed attempt at X> "where is the bug?"
Title: "How do I X?" <X is not possible>
Title: "Is it possible to X?" Body: <short code that shows the correct way to X, but it's stymied by an unrelated bug>
 
8:36 AM
@KarlKnechtel Please stop reading my mind. It's illegal.
Also quite annoying "X does not work as desired" where the question author just made up how an existing feature should work and is surprised it doesn't actually work that way.
 
Sorry. Also: probably not by next Tuesday.
 
9:13 AM
> I’m voting to close this question because the user avatar promotes terrorism ("Z" symbol is equivalent to a swastika).
Umm, what?
I get the problem of the Z. But why close the question?
Also, no - I don't have a link to the post. I saw that in the 10k tools close statistics.
> The question is Answered by comment
10/10 close reason there
 
> No results found for site:stackoverflow.com "The question is Answered by comment".
ugh.
let it not be said that I didn't try to find that person to mod-message them
 
IIRC, comments are not indexed. SE do some trickery to present a different page for bots.
 
oh, interesting. I could've sworn this had worked at some point.
 
Well "trickery" might be a strong word. There are ways to detect webcrawlers and just hide some content for them. It's a known thing. I think I saw it mentioned once that SE were doing this
Or it might just be that the comment is not indexed.
It's showing up in the last 30 days summary.
It should be searchable with SEDE. Although, maybe it would be next week.
> Requests for improvement on working code are better asked on Code Review. SO is for non-working code.
News to me.
 
lmao. I mean...sort of?
like as a general matter that's wrong
but I could see it being mostly correct as applied to a specific question
 
9:22 AM
Again - no link, so I can't judge.
 
(specifically, if the specific question were "how can I make this [working] code better?")
 
But even in general, SO is for programming questions. Not for working or non-working code. In fact, there is a lot of questions that are asking about working code "How does this work" or "What does this do"
 
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Q: Any way to fit a reference/canonical for techniques for a category of homework questions within the focus guidelines?

Karl KnechtelI've noticed that a lot of homework questions asked about on Stack Overflow, particularly in the Python tag, task students with "drawing" some sort of "shape" or pattern at the command line by outputting asterisks, digits or other such symbols according to a mathematical rule. Now, I want to stre...

 
Yeah, agreed - it's a bad way of phrasing that advice because it is wrong generally and will give people the wrong idea when they apply that wrong advice elsewhere.
 
And one can most definitely post "I have <code> but it performs suboptimally when I use "banana" for input. I need it to be O(n) for that case, not O(n^2)"
Or something less silly but with defined specific goals.
 
9:24 AM
Same issue as "not a code-writing service." Most of the questions that's posted on are terrible! Usually they lack focus. But SO is a code-writing service; the issue is that it's not an application design and development service.
 
> Furthermore, many of them are incorrectly tagged design-patterns which I'm sure is annoying a few people.
lol, first thing that came to my mind when I started reading
I saw one recently tagged
 
There are no questions tagged . I'm disappointed.
I kind of want to ask one.
Unclear whether the fact that I don't remember anything about Scheme would be helpful or harmful to this endeavor.
 
But then you need to get two more people to ask questions. And each of them needs to find more people to ask questions.
 
ha
 
@RyanM As a general matter, any comment on SO linking to Code Review is wrong.
 
9:30 AM
I encountered some kind of formatting glitch on a 12-year-old question
part of the code wasn't incorporated into the code block; making a trivial edit and then an opposite edit (so the history now shows "edit removed during grace period") fixed it
I'm guessing this is because stuff gets pre-rendered, and the renderer at the time had an issue the current one doesn't
 
@VLAZ oh I'm dumb, CR.SE has a chatroom of every SO comment linking their site... here's the post.
@KarlKnechtel While I can't speak to any specific issue, your description of how (or rather, when) post rendering occurs is accurate.
@CodyGray it is, at least, an open-ended request for improvements to working code, which I understand to be within CR's wheelhouse.
(the comment's description is...more wrong, but...)
 
That specific question would be unsuitable for Code Review. It contains insufficient explanation and/or problem description. It provides no sample inputs. It's just... bad.
(They don't want bad stuff, either.)
 
@CodyGray unsuitable, you mean?
It does have sample input/output though
it's even runnable
 
Yes, why do you ask?
 
@VLAZ do you want to know the best part
@mirekphd, I just used a picture casually and didn't know it represented terrorism. OK, I changed it. — zhjrcc Jan 9 at 3:32
 
9:43 AM
Oh...well, the username starts with Z
 
I just...come on.
 
...I don't that's really "terroristic" in nature.
If it is, should I also change my username? It has a Z in it.
 
Great, thanks! (I'm not a lawyer, but in general it's good to know things, "ignorantia iuris nocet":) Retracted closing requests. — mirekphd Jan 10 at 11:04
 
@RyanM I guess it's not worth mentioning on Meta, then.
@VLAZ while you're at it, please refrain from discussing frogs, making the "ok" hand gesture, or drinking milk.
 
I don't get the drinking milk thing. I know the others.
 
9:46 AM
@RyanM I would swear a user account with that exact same profile picture was already flagged and discussed by the mods, but there's no indication of that on that user account.
 
@KarlKnechtel yeah, unless it's, like, a problem that should be solved by rerendering a bunch of specific posts or something. The general concept of "rerenders produce different renderings" is well-known, and intentionally used by the site to avoid some CommonMark incompatibilities (and thus re-rendering en masse would be bad)
 
Sigh, I don't get the frog thing, either.
 
@CodyGray the flag is on that very post
 
....Why is there no flag showing up on the user page?
 
@CodyGray frogs being turned gay conspiracy from Alex Jones
 
9:47 AM
because it was declined for being obviously frivolous
@VLAZ I think it's the pepe thing?
 
Only helpful flags show up? I never knew that!
 
@CodyGray no, it's actually sillier than that. All flags show up, but only helpful flags affect the counter, and so if the counter is zero, the link doesn't show up, but the page still exists and shows the flag.
 
You're right; that's much sillier.
 
The OK gesture I found really funny. For the unitiated: It's supposedly symbolises "white power". The hand is shaped like a W and a P. If you think that's pretty dumb and nobody actually uses it that way - congrats, you're right. Well, sort of.
4chan trolled some news source with reports of the "white power" usage. The reporters ran the news article of this issue that (totally didn't) plague society. Well, after the news coverage, white supremacists actually started using the sign. Other white supremacists were using it - it was in the news! So, the 4chan trolling was successful way beyond what it was initially intended as.
@RyanM It says page not found.
 
@VLAZ have you tried running for moderator?
 
9:52 AM
No. I heard it breaks the pristine and flawless site design.
 
It doesn't, actually. It doesn't make it any worse.
 
(at least, now that Teams doesn't affect the main site)
 
Oh, that would be great. I enjoy the high quality product that is served to non-moderators.
 
it does add a few new features that only half work, but those are on their own pages
 
Surely nothing that gets in the way of moderating, right?
 
9:56 AM
To their credit they have fixed most of the mod-only bugs that get in the way of moderating.
there's some functionality that would be nice to have that's not there though
also the reputation page is horrible, and does have some mod-specific bugs, but most of the issues everyone gets to experience.
 
The per-user comments page and the user info lookup page are both broken.
 
the user search page does time out if you use it in a particular way, though at least it was fixed to allow the common cases to not time out. still gets in the way sometimes though.
oh the all-time stats page is broken too, that also times out reliably
 
I must always use the uncommon cases in the user search page, then...
 
10:11 AM
I should have said "to allow the common use cases to be possible without timeouts"
you do have to select the options that aren't "anywhere"
 
10:30 AM
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Q: I think the question I closed as a duplicate shouldn't have been reopened

Karl KnechtelThe question is here: Double Iteration in List Comprehension I had hammered it with what I consider canonical: Comprehension on a nested iterables? The question seems to have been reopened a few days after my closure. I wasn't notified about the reopening (as I'm sure is normally the case). I thi...

 
@NewPosts You know, I also come across this a lot in JS. There are many questions that ask for, essentially, "I want to do something with each item in an array". And the responses are almost exclusively a variation of "Make write code does the thing with one item from the array. Now just repeat for each item". With either a regular loop or applying it with .map(). But the approach is the same.
I've been putting off writing a canonical for many reasons. Partly because I'm lazy. But also partly because I would have to tackle all, or at least, a lot of the existing questions and hammer them to the new question. Yet, that would seem like I'm trying to "win easy rep". And without doing that, I'm almost certain the question would get close votes. It'd also be tricky to balance it so it's useful and not too broad.
 
11:20 AM
@VLAZ as I noted in the question there, we sort-of have that for Python. I'd like to edit it to improve and then write a really nice answer, but there are authorial intent concerns
 
Another problem in the JS sphere of SO is that, to be honest, it's rare that somebody directly asks "I want to transform each item of an array". Usually the questions are "I have <data> I want <other data>". And I'm not even oversimplifying much. A lot of the question show "before" and "after", don't really bother explaining what and how needs to be changed and expect users to figure it out and write the code.
Most of the time it is simple transformations. But not necessarily just "transform each item" which is what a mapping would do. Some times it's filtering. Or grouping. Or combing two things - mapping and filtering, perhaps.
All of these should have canonicals. But they don't.
And writing one of the canonicals probably isn't enough, either.
Ideally, I want to write a "How to work with arrays. 1. for filtering <see question> 2. For mapping <see question> 3. For grouping <see question>" etc. With one canonical for most usual array manipulations which point to other canonicals. But its a lot of work.
And I genuinely fear the response any of this would get.
 
On today's list of reasons I never imagined boson going down for: my router spontaneously resetting at 2 in the morning, and then blocking wifi access until the default admin password is changed :facedesk:
 
11:35 AM
First time I've seen that. But I believe you. Routers can be weird.
 
I've never seen this before either
And it hasn't happened in the like 2.5 years I've lived here
 
Mine occasionally decides to just move to another IP. I don't know why. It's easy to notice when it does because it also refuses to produce any Internet traffic. And also trying to access the admin panel on it usually times out. The way to fix it is with "turn it off and on again".
 
Isn't that more of an ISP thing?
 
Well, restarting the router fixes it, so I'd say it's a router thing.
 
Sure, but the ISP could change the router's IP, and the router could then have no idea how to cope with that
... which, tbf, would make it a router thing
 
11:38 AM
Dunno. Doubt it.
I mean, instead of 192.168.1.1 it's suddenly 192.168.1.167 for example. That's what I mean by IP change. Just in the internal LAN.
 
And the change is to a random unused IP in the range. Not always the same one.
 
I assumed you meant external IP, but LAN IP is definitely a router thing
 
It does also mean that anything trying to use 192.168.1.1 as a gateway cannot because there is now nothing there.
Routers be weird.
I had one that was a combined router/repeater. Used it as a repeater. Worked for about a week and then it just didn't. I couldn't find anything useful to do to make it work again. Resetting it would report that it works but it really didn't. Just refused all connections. It turned into an expensive paperweight. With blinking lights. I returned it.
 
What really annoys me is that I have to re-enable port forwarding
 
11:48 AM
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Q: Is it possible to increase the Stack Overflow edit queue

carl verbiestLately, e.g last Sunday and today, I'm experiencing "The edit queue is full at the moment - try again in a few minutes!" on Stack Overflow. Trying minutes or even half an hour later does not help. In the end, I give up and don't make the edit. I'm aware of Increase the default edit queue size (cu...

 
on the bright side, it looks like my IP designations have remained
both my servers are where they should be
 
 
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Q: 2022: a year in closing

Nicolas ChabanovskyLet’s take a look at how last year looks in terms of closing across the network. Please welcome stats that highlight how many questions were closed on different Stack Exchange sites in 2022. The same data in CSV format. Data for 2021. Site Asked AskedAndClosed PercentAskedAndClosed All Closed...

 
1:19 PM
wow. stack overflow really gets nearly 16 times as many questions as any other site on the network.
 
Yep.
You can see more stats here, FYI: stackexchange.com/sites#questionsperday
Just in case you weren't aware.
I'm actually more surprised that Mathematics gets 300 questions a day.
 
Yeah, Maths.SE is the 2nd-most active, including its child meta.
 
do we have any say WRT the Roomba rules?
 
1:35 PM
I mean, technically yes. You could post a FR. Whether anything would be done is another matter.
I'm not sure if or when was the last time Roomba rules were changed, though.
 
There was a change back in 2013.
 
So - a while ago. Almost a decade.
 
1:54 PM
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Q: block post new question after edit old post

latexfortiI edited my old post remove duplicate from URL-string with php but now i can not create new post when click "ask question" Please help Thank you

 
2:12 PM
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Q: Edit war removing meta-commentary

OmnifariousSomeone is removing meta commentary in my question that points out that answers to the question are version specific. I think this meta commentary is actually important to the understanding the answers, and that without it people might make assumptions about what will or won't work for their vers...

 
@NewPosts Mod help: In Python argparse, is it possible to have paired --no-something/--something arguments? quote from edit reason by OP: "If this question is edited again, I will delete it. Nobody needs to know the answer."
FWIW, I think the information is useful, but it probably makes more sense in the answer. It's certainly not part of your question as it doesn't help to define the problem. Is there a reason that "This solution is for python < 3.9" couldn't go at the top of the answer? — Henry Ecker ♦ 1 min ago
I basically had the same question. The meta commentary says that some answers are only relevant for Python < 3.9, others for above it. Yet, (at a very brief glance) I didn't see the answers identify which version of Python they would be for. And with me not knowing Python, I don't even know how to find out.
 
2:55 PM
site died?
 
He has risen!
 
Hallelujah!
 
JeSOs
 
3:12 PM
@NewPosts I'm voting to close this question because it is not in English
 
@NewPosts So, I mentioned unhelpful edits being accepted there. But there is also helpful edits being rejected.
 
do we have strikethrough markdown at all?
 
 
@KarlKnechtel For chat or post? I think it work both way last time I tried it, so ---test--- work I think
 
Really? "No improvement"? The edit is quite a huge improvement. Yes, there were few other minor tweaks to be done but IMO, the code update was desperately needed.
@NordineLotfi Yes
 
3:27 PM
@NewPosts the ongoing comment chat here is making me think we need to bring back some acceptable-in-2023 form of "what stack overflow is not"
that, plus a lot of other encounters recently
 
3:39 PM
@KarlKnechtel that could help a lot, but knowing the back and forth with the chatgpt ban on meta, I wouldn't be surprised if this would happen then too :/
 
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Q: What should I do with a question that has a workaround, but no direct answer?

user120675I have an open question that is unsolved, but I have come up with an alternate approach that avoids the original problem. I posted my workaround as an edit to my question, because I think it might be helpful to someone else facing the same problem. I didn't post it as an answer because it doesn't...

 
@KarlKnechtel I agree almost entirely with your stance on approving minor edits with one small caveat: the edit should make a meaningful improvement. Your example of removing excessive indentation is a good one: as you note, making code more readable is meaningfully improving it.
An example of a suggested edit that fails to make a meaningful improvement would be one that does nothing more than capitalize all instances of the word "i", or "android studio" - it leads to absolutely no meaningful improvement. The post is no more readable than it was before. It is only "better" in some technical grammatical sense with no real-world implications.
 
^ agreed with Ryan
 
I wonder, is putting backticks considered a minor edit? I did that quite a bit on SE, and a couple times on SO I think (where the post didn't have them, and the code wouldn't be correctly separated from the rest of the post, etc)
I guess it improves the readability, but you could argue it's a minor edit? I'm not sure
 
as in adding a code block where there was previously just unformatted code? Definitely a meaningful improvement to readability in my book.
 
3:51 PM
In that review the editor updated the code to remove extranious whitespace, and indent it properly. Which is good. They didn't capitalise the start of every sentence, which would have also been good but it's honestly a minor improvement. There was also a typo in one word.
@NordineLotfi Don't swap indentation for code fences. Not if that's the only edit. Also, try to avoid it if it doesn't have any meaningful change.
However, if the question is tagged, say, [java] and there is an HTML snippet, you need to add a code fence with a code hint, otherwise it will likely have the wrong syntax highlight.
So, for situations like these (fixing the highlighting in general) - yes, go ahead and swap to a code fence.
 
@VLAZ only half-joking: the system should automatically suspend anyone from suggesting edits for a week who submits a suggestion that would result in no change to the rendered HTML.
 
And if you're adding a code block where there wasn't any - there is no restrictions what to use. I personally prefer code fences, so that's what I use in those cases.
@RyanM That can work, TBH.
 
@RyanM I meant that mostly for small code blocks, where it could be considered a minor edit. But I get what you mean :)
@VLAZ so you mean like, when you do an indentation and it automatically format it as a code block without code fences?
 
If we're more serious about it - then perhaps the infractions can be shown somewhere for review. Just to avoid too much automation.
 
@VLAZ but, and this is important: also remove the indentation if you do that
this may seem obvious but people screw it up constantly
it is one of the most common reasons I reject edits
 
3:56 PM
@RyanM True. Another trick (that I almost never use, TBH) is to indent the code fence at the same level as the code.
 
@VLAZ In that case, I wouldn't replace it with a code fence, unless as you mentioned, it would fix the syntax highlighting. Also, what do you mean by "Not if that's the only edit"? Did you mean that as in, "don't swap indentation for code fences if that's the only edit"?
 
@VLAZ ah, yeah, I do that sometimes when there's a weird number of spaces.
since the SO editor can only remove multiples of 4 spaces
(yes, I could use an external editor, but...meh, effort)
 
@NordineLotfi There are two ways to make something a code block - indent each line with four spaces or use a code fence. Both are valid styles. IMO, the code fence is much better but still - don't just swap one for the other. Well, with the caveats above.
 
yeah, I agree
I prefer code fences too, but if the result is the same, I wouldn't change it
 
@NordineLotfi You could "slip in" code fences if you're doing other edits on a post. It's honestly easier for me to edit the code without having to constantly try and keep it indented for the code block to work. So I'd some times do a code fence and make further changes. Those usually include both to the code and to the surrounding text.
 
4:01 PM
ah, yeah that's a good way to do it.
I did that once on unix.SE but I don't always do it.
 
@RyanM I doubt I can say any more to convince you about the rest of my stance.
 
@KarlKnechtel since I just found it: meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/371796/… this might be directly related to what you mentioned
 
brilliant, thank you
 
@KarlKnechtel Just to clarify - would you consider my example of just fixing minor capitalization issues that do not impact readability to be worthy of approval? Does that hinge on whether there are other, material issues with the post?
 
I think "minor capitalization issues" do, in fact, impact readability.
When I'm reading a canonical on Stack Overflow, I don't want to be subconciously goaded into thinking about the OP's English or writing skills.
It's a distraction from the actual reading process.
to me, "no improvement" really means "no improvement", as in, we could go back and forth on the change. There's value to avoiding bikeshedding, yeah.
but if something looks like a step in the right direction, I'll accept and improve. In almost every case, it will be less work for me than reject and edit.
 
4:20 PM
To pick the worst real-world example I can find quickly: stackoverflow.com/review/suggested-edits/33004380
it's slightly better! the link is now clickable!
but the quote formatting makes no sense and they left some of the inexplicable code block formatting for entirely unclear reasons
 
I'd consider a user fixing half the capitalisations to be a "no improvement" and would probably Reject and Edit it. But if the changes they make overall fulfil one category of changes and don't omit other worse problems (e.g., fixing all "i" to capitals in the text, not fixing the unformatted code), then I'd generally accept and maybe Improve Edit.
@RyanM That one introduces one of those not-a-quote-formatted-as-quote things I hate. I'd have rejected for sure.
 
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Q: quote only answers

Mehdi CharifeAre answers that only include (formatted) citations from other sources allowed in StackOverflow? For example, can I write that "I found the following explanation from source X to be helpful" and then proceed to quote the explanation?

 
Wait, did I summon this post with my hate of non-quotes?
 
@VLAZ yeah, it takes it from horribly incorrect formatting to badly incorrect formatting
 
No. Non-quotes -> always worse.
 
4:25 PM
is that an improvement? ehhhhh.....
is it a meaningful improvement? definitely not
 
It didn't even remove all the text from a code block. What's the point of only making 2/3rds of the non-code into code?
@NewPosts Would be really funny if I answered and my entire answer was to quote Cody.
Well, very funny but for a very brief time.
 
@VLAZ Okay, I endorse this
@VLAZ the editor might simply have overlooked it.
 
4:45 PM
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Q: Accessibility Update: Colors

PiperAs you may already know, we were working on accessibility last year. We took a break about a few months ago to assess how we were approaching the problem and rethink that approach. We never want to sacrifice usability for accessibility. Both are very important at Stack Overflow. With that in mind...

 
> Ensure colors that pass contrast in light mode also pass in dark mode
 
@RyanM I'm sure there's a code formatting API that you could POST to and replace the text with the response. I'd be surprised if someone didn't already have a UserScript to that effect.
 
yeah there are definitely some userscripts that automate editing tasks, but it's not something I do enough to have investigated
 
You haven't searched for Stack Snippets and pressed the tidy button on all of them for free rep? It's all the rage I hear
@AndrewT. "Both are very important at Stack Overflow." is that "Stack Overflow" the company or are we just ignoring the rest of the network?
Ah. Nevermind, I didn't realise the accessibility changes initially only affected SO. (I didn't click the links)
 
@HenryEcker well, uh, they were targeted at SO...they did, naturally, affect other sites. Often by breaking them.
which did make it somewhat unfortunate that it was only announced on MSO
 
4:56 PM
Yeah. Because they were updating Stacks directly which is a core dependency of all the sites so...
I remember seeing the bug reports on MSE about things breaking, which is why I forgot it was "SO-only"
 
anyway they seem to have learned their lesson in re: announcing such changes
so props there
plus, easy rep unless you completely ruin everything :-)
(which is hard)
> Create brighter, accessible friendly colors instead of all colors simply being dark and mundane
I want to take some credit for that one :-)
 
on an unrelated note, did anyone know that Sound Design also supports Dark Mode unofficially?
 
(to be clear I have no idea if they actually were directly inspired by my post, but I'm claiming credit anyway)
 
I am not sure if this is the place to say this...
The SO review queue is full.
 
suggested edits is always full
 
5:09 PM
T_T
I don't have rep to clean it up, so it's up to you fine people.
 
Here's a good example of minor-ish grammar improvements that I approved: stackoverflow.com/review/suggested-edits/33707184
 
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Q: Outdated solutoin on XDebug on MAC

theking2The solution on Building/Installing XDebug on Mac OSX with MAMP is outdated and I love to combine my answer reflecting current affairs in the marked for answer. Yet it apparentely is hold up in edit queue. How can i release it from this lock to provide the answer that might help quite some users ...

 
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Q: 2022: a year in moderation

JNat As we say goodbye to the old year and welcome the new one, we have a tradition of sharing moderation stats for the preceding calendar year. As most of you here are aware, sites on the Stack Exchange network are moderated somewhat differently to other sites on the web: We designed the Stack Exch...

 
> EDIT:

> Edited the question for the non anglosaxons

:/
 
6:18 PM
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Q: SPAM Questions with toll-free tech support numbers of known companies

PM 77-1From time to time I see obvious SPAM messages that consist of repeated string like Toll-free support number for XYZ - 1-866-xxx-xxxx. What is not obvious to me is the actual purpose of such posts. Are these numbers truly for support or phishing attempts? Is it an attempt to flood company with c...

 
> Comments deleted⁷ 521,593
Now we're talking
It is just a 120k increase though
 
>users destroyed 10k
that's the spammers, yeah? more than I would have thought
in particular, surprised that they outnumber people eating suspensions
 
> Comments deleted⁷ 3,172 (2022)
> Comments deleted⁷ 3,356 (2021)
Close enough... (Android.SE)
 
also wow, questions still get merged
 
@KarlKnechtel AFAIR, SO was hit hard by multiple spam waves in 2022
 
6:26 PM
@KarlKnechtel Throwaway accounts are fairly common. In the majority of cases the spam post is that user's only contribution making the ration spam post : spammer account fairly close to 1:1
 
6:42 PM
@AndrewT. Oh yeah. Tons and tons and tons of help support spam
 
SO: helping support spam since 2022
 
May 2022, Nov/Dec 2021, according to my flag history
 
6:56 PM
only 1.2mil posts deleted
 
7:24 PM
I don't think this has been shared here...?
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Q: A/B testing the separation of The Overflow Blog from the Community Bulletin

Salmon_of_WisdomBackground As part of the Content Discovery initiative, we’re announcing the next experiment. In this test, we will separate the Overflow Blog posts from the Community Bulletin into its own dedicated section. In this year’s Developer Survey, more than 70,000 developers told us how they learn, whi...

 
@ZoestandswithUkraine I seem to be 2.2 % of that total, nice.
 
75% of people use blogs to learn? :facepalm:
majority of these writers are just regurgitating things they've read
 
IIRC, I did pick "blogs" on the survey. Mostly because there are individual articles that have been useful.
It's also not the primary thing I'd say I use for learning. But it's one of the things that made the most sense in the survey. So, depending on how you get the statistic, I might be one of those 75%.
 
@JamesRisner I assume you mean the community total, right? :p
 
7:41 PM
@ZoestandswithUkraine yes
 
it's gotten to the point that articles aren't any more trustworthy than your avg reddit post
they're almost all copied from some other source that isn't provided
 
 
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9:15 PM
@JamesRisner If you're counting based on helpful comment flags, my understanding is that this would only count self-deleted comments or comments deleted as a direct result of casting a flag.
 
9:36 PM
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Q: A/B testing the separation of The Overflow Blog from the Community Bulletin

Salmon_of_WisdomBackground As part of the Content Discovery initiative, we’re announcing the next experiment. In this test, we will separate the Overflow Blog posts from the Community Bulletin into its own dedicated section. This will happen on Stack Overflow and not on the rest of the Exchange. In this year’s D...

 
@NewPosts oh, oops, apparently they planned to also post it on MSO :X
... never mind, the MSE one was self-deleted for mysterious reason...
 
@RyanM I may be confused. But I took my comment flags marked helpful for 2022 / 521k = 2.2% (11800/521000)
 
@JamesRisner That doesn't count as you deleting the comment, unless it was deleted immediately when you flagged it (i.e., not sent to moderators)
 
all these AI articles SO has been pushing recently seem pretty poorly timed, with the mess chatgpt has been causing across the network
 
There's a separate "comments flagged" category for that
 
9:42 PM
@RyanM some where immediate but far from all. So is it more fair to say I flagged 2% of the subsequently deleted then?
 
yeah
 
@RyanM oh right, lot of lines in that report
so looked up my late December count: 8871/383400 =
.023 - so I’m 2.3% of comment flags in 2022.
 
I had like 250-300k deletions, so like
2
around half
 
Much better than I ;-)
 
eh, i think it's fair to say some of the articles are of high quality, but you can't tell them apart from the rest. Few of them indicate where they were originally posted, how long ago, or what qualifications the author even has to speak about the topic.
 
10:00 PM
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa.
stackoverflow.com/questions/17050132 According to the post feedback tool, this question is somehow underrated
i.e. anonymous viewers find it very helpful
but actually, I guess that's a common type of simple logical error, one that can be succinctly described
 
@JamesRisner :p
There's also a chance the community deletions only count direct deletions, so there's a chance very few of your flags actually went to the count, at least if you didn't primarily flag regex-matched stuff
 
actually hmm
the way that this 'underrated' algorithm works is rather inscrutable to me
 
just a wild guess, but maybe it uses the view count, bookmark, as well as the upvote to know if it's underrated or not
 
@ZoestandswithUkraine wouldn’t mine count for comments flagged tho? The 383 thousand number?
 
if it has more views and bookmarks than upvotes, it might just be labeled as underrated, I think. Not that I really know tbh
 
10:06 PM
@JamesRisner It would. I wasn't paying attention ^^"
 
10:28 PM
The tooltip for "underrated" is "No votes in the last year, helpful"...? Anyway, it compares how many anonymous upvotes to anonymous downvotes.
 
I see :o
 
Ah, right, it only lists highly anonymous upvoted questions that didn't receive any registered (or, borrowing Twitter's term, "Verified"?) votes in 1 year.
 
right, it's looking for discrepancies between anonymous votes and actual votes
 
@AndrewT. also correction: all posts including answers, not only questions. and it's sorted ascending by post creation date, not the total number of anonymous votes :x
 
> We will consider this experiment a success if a variant does not perform worse than the current engagement.
i mean
what's the goal then, if no improvement whatsoever is a success?
> The goal of this experiment is to determine whether creating a new dedicated section for blog content will result in any incremental engagement to blog posts.
aren't these two statements opposed?
 
10:39 PM
double negative with neutral value :(
 
@AndrewT. where is that discussion?
 
@JamesRisner it's a 10k mod tool
 

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