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09:00
@Gimby for a family with an infamously poisonous member...
many members of the solanasae family are tasty
@JourneymanGeek Oh I know all about taters. I went to the French Fry museum in Bruges.
No joke, by the way :)
@Gimby I feel guilty for being mean and closing there bad questions.
How is that being mean?
hmmm. good question.
Stop asking for me to explain women's logic. Now i am going to be thinking about it all day.
Well, I'm not sure it's all that related.
Everyone feels it.
09:07
@DaImTo I used to close and delete off topic questions all day
I wished I didn't
I tried to show folks a better way
Just because something is difficult dosen't mean it isn't necessary ;)
@Gimby eggplant is also the same family
Although I guess men are probably better at hindering the signals or immediately rebut the feelings with concise logical statements.
@M.A.R. humans are made of meat
and we're illogical silly creatures, all of us
Wrong.
Even wronger. I'm perfectly logically logic.
@M.A.R. ALL OF YOUR KIDNEYS ARE MADE OF MEAT.
QED.
09:09
Your brain might potentially be jello though
depending on your definition of meat.
More like mush
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Q: Alignment issue in post-menu hyperlinks

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@Sam FYI, your userscript's causing me to run into a rate limit every time I get online.
Kinda worth it, it's pretty neat.
Although the bar is pretty distracting at the moment.
Will probably get used to it
@JourneymanGeek Jello is also an animal product.
Do you guys like the default chat UI of SO?
09:12
@DaImTo Maybe see it as educating them? Scolding a child because they did something bad is not beaing mean. I see it like that at least. It might still be unwelcoming though.
@weegee In the sense that I like my armpits. Got used to them.
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@Autar Treating adults like children rarely goes down well.
Probably not in the best position to judge their awesomeness, as a result.
@Druckles How do we educate college students then? See it this way.
Treating adults like adults also sometimes doesn't go down well.
Basically, don't treat adults.
09:14
@Autar With their consent.
@M.A.R. Doctors be pointless
@M.A.R. :( But Halloween is candy time
Vaccines cause omnipotence.
@M.A.R. Also true, but you have to go from an assumption of good faith.
Ah RIP, on my work screen I'm just Nick A the Popcorn as well, maybe need 4K for full name...
@Autar i normally do but i am at work. I wish i could set up macros for please read how to ask.
09:15
@NickAthePopcornKing Can you scrub the smashed eggs off my windows then, please?
@Druckles Isn't that implicit since they are using the website? Or do we need a checkbox when a user ask a question?
@M.A.R. Sorry we don't do that where I'm from, we're civilised ;)
@NickAthePopcornKing You're "Nick A the" for me <3
@Autar Yeah, my comment was a bit too short/flippant. I meant that adults choose what they learn and to a large degree when and how they learn.
And people complain about ending things with prepositions for under through.
09:16
@M.A.R. Close enough!
This is a flippant comment: (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
@Druckles Yeah I agree that my analogy with the child wasn't the best. But I think the one with college students fits.
Sure, they come to the site to learn, optionally, but they post a question and expect an answer to the question. They expect to learn about the thing they posted, not necessarily how to ask a question or how to format a post.
@M.A.R. sorry, do you know which userscript?
@Autar It won't go well if you stop your lecture and tell everyone how they're all going to take notes. Some people can get away with it; e.g. banning laptops. But try that with a group of adults (making a distinction between people who have graduated, had a job, managed their own life for a few years and those still in university/college) and you'll often get resistance or even hostility.
09:20
@SamuelLiew Chimprovements. There, I even came up with a better name
@Druckles however a slab of jellow is not a jello steak
Wait.
@M.A.R. scrubs with high grit sandpaper
That's such a dog thing to do.
@JourneymanGeek What?
09:20
@M.A.R. did you just install it within the last 6 hours?
@SamuelLiew It's the latest update, if you mean that, but it updated yesterday
I think it was 10 days ago or something that I installed it
Try reinstalling, it's a work in progress
@M.A.R. naw, that's the warm gift on the breaks.
Like greeting the mailman
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09:28
@M.A.R. The DHL Man! We have a teddy bear from him!
How do so many people end up on meta instead of SO?
(ash still recognises the uniform from when he was a puppy at my dad's office and greets those folks enthusiastically)
@Druckles yes
@M.A.R. I believe that's a flip it comment.
@Druckles There are a couple of posts (and a Tavern discussion) on this topic but they aren't that thorough or deep, mostly just what you suspect.
@user58 You're killing me
@M.A.R. They need to do a better job.
09:31
@M.A.R. But it's almost impossible to find meta by accident.
Ooooooh, you mean blatantly OT posts?
There are no links that I could find to MSO.
@M.A.R. Yes, what did you mean? :-p
Well, they just land there by accident, or are poking around because they're Q-banned
Then the question is, how can Q-banned ppl Q on MSO?
@Druckles Well I forgot that we're not people so I assumed you mean why meta regulars hang around meta.
@Druckles If they have more than 5-rep or ask a [specific-question] question
Maybe.
58 is the guy to go to for boring trivia.
@JourneymanGeek I'm watching you ಠ_ಠ
And my back.
At the same time.
I'm a chameleon
Or a rooster
09:35
An owl?
Let's create a list of all the animals!
Owls only turn back to creep people (and animals) out
@Gimby 1. Tom
Oh, I thought it was some sort of evolutionary advantage.
I am being artistic.
Oh, I thought you were being facetious.
09:38
Same diff
Oh, I thought they were different words.
Ok, I'm going to stop now.
@M.A.R. ah, but what you need to watch is your ankle
@Druckles I'd assume that its got different calculations for that. It might just be based on reputation and there's no question ban trigger
where reputation is one of several factors in the black box
@JourneymanGeek Everyone should. I broke an ankle once, that's no joke.
@Gimby I bit an ankle once....
user3956566
omg I turn my back on this room for a few hours and there's no horses! What is wrong with you people?!? :D
09:50
Sorry, we were just horsing around.
user3956566
hay! that's not punny! :p
@Yvette You changed your namee ;o
user3956566
Yeh I pretty much closed up shop on all my other accounts and this is my way of saying I'm not happy
user3956566
I'm expecting to be rejected by the network soon and will just bow out I think
You've lost your charge...
>.> bad joke I know, Colomb -> charge? anyone?
user3956566
09:51
charge? Like for a phone?
user3956566
oh yes!
user3956566
yeh I remember chemistry lessons
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Q: flash message not work in laravel 5.8

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^ What's the best close reason for MSO posts that ought to be SO posts?
@Raedwald The one that was closed as
09:53
@Raedwald The one used is the blatantly OT close reason
Not sure why they're not just automatically moved to SO.
It's something like a "dude, just . . . no"
user3956566
ugh
user3956566
@HugoZink do not take what I am saying out of context. No one is saying that, not even SE inc. This is what I detest about this site. I'm tired of arguing about stuff no one said! — I don't want to participate 26 secs ago
@Druckles Most of them are garbage anyway, and we don't migrate garbage, even from MSO to SO
09:54
@NickAthePopcornKing Makes more sense to close SO-garbage on SO than on MSO.
@Yvette Is that a good ugh, or a bad ugh
user3956566
omg it's such a drag trying to close and delete stuff on here. I went to the review queues and almost threw up. I can't face it
user3956566
@M.A.R. bad
user3956566
Look at my username, it should say enough.
@Yvette well, just have fun in chat!
09:55
@Druckles Nah, it's everywhere garbage
user3956566
None of my flags on that site have been handled. I've retracted them all
That's how I do it.
user3956566
yeh, it's hard to ignore the bushfire
user3956566
where's that comic with the god in the burning room saying it's all good?
@Yvette Yeah, I saw the comment that is a reply to and thought: what do I flag this as? There is no "just wrong" flag reason for comments.
09:56
@Yvette I think you just have to say a word and you're back as a diamond. Well I'm not deciding this obviously, but well...
. . . I legitimately do not consider @Journey as a god
That's be a weird world to live in
@Jean-FrançoisFabre "a word"
am I a diamond now?
Filled with wheelchair stories
user3956566
@Raedwald eh? which comment?I'm confudef for realz
@NickAthePopcornKing not you. And it's a special word. Try "waffles"
09:57
No a word. The Word. You must utter its True Name
@NickAthePopcornKing You have to say it with an Australian accent
Or "I want my mod swag"
@Raedwald Voldemort
Brits have to decide to exit first
user3956566
@Jean-FrançoisFabre I've asked them days ago - Tim is replying to me tomorrow - it can only be bad news.
09:57
@M.A.R. I didn't decide to exit, I was told "We're exiting!"
damn... I don't know.
user3956566
@Jean-FrançoisFabre yeh did you ever get mod swag?
nope... but they replied saying that I will, eventually.
user3956566
@Raedwald oh you mean the comment on MSE?
I suspect that they're hoping for me to resign so they don't have to send it but noooo :)
user3956566
09:58
@Jean-FrançoisFabre lol you poor thing. can I post you some stickers in the meantime?
I accept Kitten stickers only.
user3956566
@Jean-FrançoisFabre lmao!!! imagine if they were truly that broke :D
@Jean-FrançoisFabre After all this, I want them to send me a replacement cap for sticking through it...
user3956566
@Jean-FrançoisFabre so if I draw kittens on my SO sticker in black texta does that count?
I think their provider is not available or things like that.
09:59
@user58 I have a fun thing to work out once all this is sorted out
user3956566
@user58 and a wig for tearing hair out I think!
@Jean-FrançoisFabre they're swapping the provider they used for pretty much the past decade
@Yvette if you iron kittens, with a sufficiently hot iron, on plastic paper, that could work
@JourneymanGeek Oh?
@user58 well
10:00
"how to flatten a list of lists kittens"
user3956566
@Jean-FrançoisFabre like real life kittens or sticker kittens. Jean I don't like where this is headed O.o
@user58 working out if I want my MSE diamond back ;p
user3956566
@JourneymanGeek well, we're waiting - the key word here is "fun"
user3956566
@JourneymanGeek well I think they may need you over there lol
Lesson #1: never ragequit.
10:01
@Jean-FrançoisFabre I did not
I took the course of action I felt was best
you weren't alone.
user3956566
evidence I believe you are needed over there... No pressure, just evidence
but lesson #1 always applies.
10:02
@Jean-FrançoisFabre and honestly
this gives me a chance to act a little more freely
user3956566
@Jean-FrançoisFabre yeh and the rest of are left in front of the closed front shop with photos, flowers and candles holding vigil
At the same time, lets be real here
I probably could not have handled this situation
user3956566
@JourneymanGeek I actually do understand that. It's kinda cool casting votes on SO and they're not binding - no meta post - "why did you close this"
me I just delete bad answers & rude comments.
user3956566
@JourneymanGeek well then it's important to have breathing space
10:03
and also answer meta posts.
@Yvette and yet
this is the sort of hard situations we do need to face
try to relax
user3956566
@Jean-FrançoisFabre I want my diamond back, as I went off here to have a break and clearly that is no longer working - so I may as well be handling flags and being more useful
BTW, I think this is relevant. Gnat loves posting it, but I guess we need some Shog from time to time at least.
in The Comms Room on The Stack Exchange Network Chat, Apr 15 '15 at 4:10, by Shog9
@Wesley if I might offer some advice... If this stuff - the questions, the community - if it starts to get to you that way, take a break. This should be fun; something you do for the love of the topic, of the profession, in hope of building resources that are better than the ones you had to learn from. If it isn't fun any more, stop doing it.
@M.A.R. heh
that's come up a lot
10:04
We're having all the funs
I've had a lot of folks ask off site how I was doing and if I was ok
<3
user3956566
@JourneymanGeek although, to be fair to everyone it's an unprecedented situation. I hope things subside and we have a calm level - although soaked ground from the flooding
@Yvette yup
user3956566
@AndrasDeak you will have the funZ!!! That is an order!
10:05
drops popcorn cause too relaxed
I'm so relaxed I almost look like dead.
user3956566
omg you are dead!
user3956566
your cat is working your account
user3956566
that explains the demand for kitten stickers
I just have a hard time smiling on photos
user3956566
10:06
@NickAthePopcornKing now I'm hungry
user3956566
that is what the cat would say!
the movie was also excellent. Toy Story 4.
in 3D.
user3956566
also what a cat would say
The popcorn wasn't for me too.
10:07
@Jean-FrançoisFabre Say no more
user3956566
crap, how do we fill out a form explaining we concern a mod has been replaced by their cat
@Jean-FrançoisFabre How dare you!
meow. aw shit.
user3956566
^^^ everyone note this!!!
@Jean-FrançoisFabre @NickAthePopcornKing, Jean has your popcorn
user3956566
10:08
hmmm let me get my cat to talk to you (did I say that out loud?)
user3956566
@user58 you're such a dobber.
user3956566
Do you notice how many of us have changed our names lmao
arf Nick the popcorn king reads like "NickThePornKing" if you don't pay attention...
user3956566
@Jean-FrançoisFabre bahahahahahaha too funny
Oooo...kay.
10:09
@Jean-FrançoisFabre I thought it was NickAPornKing
@Jean-FrançoisFabre That doesn't sound so bad
@Jean-FrançoisFabre What has been seen...
user3956566
@user58 this is the kind of mod we're left with now! :p
not sure it's intentional though @NickAthePopcornKing but that's good
Get your mind out of the gutter :P
user3956566
10:09
omg and now my mind wanders back - let me get the link
Well, when I'm relaxed, I'm really relaxed, strange things can happen
@Yvette Yes, well, I got a bit concerned.
user3956566
anyone know where the xdc link is for imperial measurements
@Yvette woah, woah, woah, don't let your mind wander too much
@Jean-FrançoisFabre Note to self: Keep Jean stressed at all times.
10:10
lol. Send me spam flags
user3956566
@NickAthePopcornKing hey! Jean started it.. I'm dobbing... Muuuuumm!!
and meta posts about unfair deletion of dismissed comment flags about failed audits
user3956566
@Jean-FrançoisFabre I'm so tempted to go and flag your posts... but George might see them and get to them first....
@Yvette good luck flagging all my 3500+ answers 😀
@Jean-FrançoisFabre Just gunna star this.... for entertainment purposes....
10:12
@Jean-FrançoisFabre is it appropriate to call you Jean? Or you just got used to it?
I don't mind, if you like to keep it short. My real first name is Jean-François but it's long and includes a special non-ascii character
Some call me JFF. That's okay too.
user3956566
@AndrasDeak I call him Jean or JFF. Not to be confused with JFK. I never gave him a choice, I'm literally too lazy to type or use my keyboard short cuts for accents
as long as it's not "Jean the nazi mod who deleted my post"
JTNMWDMP
user3956566
@Jean-FrançoisFabre but "Jean the nazi mod" is ok?
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10:14
I had to star that.
JFFS.
user3956566
JFFS?
Jean for f***s sake?
JTF?
user3956566
10:15
oh no, I just realised I popped in on a break and forgot I'm working... later - next break! \o
I'm supposed to work too... but since I'm at home I have access to chat. Go figure why they blocked it from work...
@Druckles Isn't that the new compiler architecture made as an alternative to JIT? :P
ahahah jeff dunham, now we're talking
ah now I'm watching a video... damn.
10:17
@Zoethetransgirl That's JWiFL
Java "Just When it Feels Like"
user3956566
@Jean-FrançoisFabre me too! dammit. I g2g
non-compiled languages are evil. Except python.
Can't watch ventriloquists. Spend the entire time watching their faces.
Do like me some Python.
that one is really good
10:19
Python is actually decent for a non-compiled language
python+pycharm+type hinting + compiled libs beats java
<3 for Python
choose the winners languages: C++ and python. (POB, I know)
*Kotlin
Do I have to? It's like choosing a favorite child
10:22
C++ is awesome
I have to support Ada at work... Sad?
@Jean-FrançoisFabre I have to support IE...
(got some points on SO thanks to that on the tag but that doesn't suffice)
arrgghhh IE
@Druckles Kotlin is good, but it's slow
kotlin uses java JIT right?
kotlin could run over python :)
10:24
Kotlin runs on the JVM, so yeah
@Zoethetransgirl People used to say that about Java :-)
@Druckles Now they just say it sucks ;p
With the exception of Kotlin Native and Kotlin.JS. Kotlin Native compiles AOT, Kotlin.JS is transpiled to everyone's favorite language (/s), JavaScript
@NickAthePopcornKing but for other reasons!
@Druckles By slow I mean compared to C++. It's still faster than browser JS
10:26
I remember the days when the only C++ compilers generated C that was then compiled.
And get off my lawn.
that sucked.
now we have 2 or 3 decent C++ compilers.
problem is the IDE with C++. Not easy to find a free one that works properly.
eclipse.... LOL.
@Jean-FrançoisFabre I used to like eclipse.... then I realised I was wrong
Eclipse gives open source a bad rep
Every year or two I see if the Eclipse plugin for C++ (CDT?) is any good. Every time I am disappointed.
@Jean-FrançoisFabre Vim. You're welcome
10:28
that's expected. C++ is hard to parse on-the-fly.
@Zoethetransgirl notepad++...
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Notepad++ is overrated
@Zoethetransgirl Get out of here with that vim stuff ;p
:wq
notepad++ is there when nothing else works.
I like Vim, but the number of times I pressed q: instead of :q is too damn high
nnoremap <leader>q :wq
10:29
:GTG ;)
:set nomodelineexpr, people
@Jean-FrançoisFabre What do you do when your Window Manager isn't working?
@StoryTeller Who wants a macro on :?
@AndrasDeak What exactly does that do?
No one. It's just a mistype that I can't stop doing when typing blindly. So I guess my fingers are trying to tell me something
@Zoethetransgirl prevents arbitrary code execution thehackernews.com/2019/06/linux-vim-vulnerability.html?m=1
10:32
@Druckles Maybe I want to macro on : subconsciously
Oh
Wait, that was patched in a later version
patch == :set nomodelineexpr exists
Hopefully set by default vimrcs
Lemme check
10:34
But I used to have explicit :set modeline to get syntax highlighting on weird extensions
yup, set to 0
Like, .f_orig
:help modelineexpr in edit history
@Raedwald "Other/Groundless FUD spreading"? "Other/Provocative nonsense"? "Other/Fake news"? =/
In any case, as Yvette notes, as things stand right now a flag would probably take a long while to be handled. I have also been retracting flags on MSE...
(Sorry for the untimely reply, BTW -- I saw that discussion half an hour ago but couldn't write back at the time.)
Did anything new happen in the last 12 hours?
10:43
Not that I know of
That being said, it's been two days and we still don't have a reply
Nothing. IIRC, George said SE thought they might put something out yesterday or today.
@Zoethetransgirl "two days"
No, that was on the 30th. Should've been two days ago or yesterday
23 hours ago, by Raedwald
I guess the SE employees are busy trying to coax the new CEO out of his now barricaded office. "Make it stop! Make them all go away!"
Yup, no "A message from the new CEO" post either yet.
10:48
@duplode Is it normal to have posts like that?
As internal communications, yes.
I'm not entirely sure, tbh.
They would have to squeeze the CEO's post in between the spam on the blog
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@Jean-FrançoisFabre You don't like Code::Blocks anymore?
@Gimby I've used it for old projects, but I think it sucks...
I'm using GPS/Gnatstudio (commercial version). It's good but you need to pay. Or wait till the debugged version is made GPL (next year)
in the previous 64 bit versions they supposed that sizeof(long) == sizeof(void *). That didn't end well for the user...
11:08
Hm. Back in the Nintendo DS homebrew programming days you were pretty positive about it :) But times change I guess.
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Q: My flash message view on web page and if do dd its also not get session value in blade page.?

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Q: Add cross-(natural)language migration paths

RuslanSometimes a question is asked in non-English, but still on the topic of programming (example). Such questions attract downvotes, which are most likely due to "can't read/understand" reason. In such a case I tried to simply vote for migration, but it appears that there are no migration paths to e....

11:35
@Gimby oh you remember those ancient times? Well it was not that bad. But for bigger projects when you have a networked architecture (pool of servers vs standalone machine) plus a lot of users that's difficult to use. Plus it's not really maintained. No "back" button, .cbp format is horrible, etc...
@Jean-FrançoisFabre Fair enough. I joined the dark side and installed Visual Studio Express anyway :)
12:06
Visual Studio or IntelliJ IDEA all the way
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Q: Why i was blocked to ask questions?

gugaI recently posted a question about getting help to conver a programming language onto another and was blocked to ask again. Why is that ?

I use a wide variety of tools, Visual Studio Code for web stuff, Visual Studio Express for C# stuff, Netbeans for Java stuff at home and then at the office I use IntelliJ for Java stuff. My toolbelt is quite noisy when I walk around.
Use a hammerspace belt. It's quite cheap these days.
man there should be a way to feed this bot meta.stackoverflow.com/a/255584/1841839
Or use an apron with lots of pockets
12:20
"help vampires" so thats why i feel some questions suck the life out of me.
@DaImTo basically any question which is asked without doing any prior study does that to me really.
Should be able to flag a question as not a question. Didnt we once have a no research flag.
Except for spam/offensive can someone be blocked without first getting a warning message?
I suppose severing the Ethernet cable doesn't count?
@DaImTo not directly, there was a "lacks minimal understanding" flag though.
12:31
@Gimby There was a General Reference trial though
@NickAthePopcornKing Does not compute, "General Reference trial" ?
trial period with a "needs general reference" close reason, perhaps
aaaah
I think I wasn't even aware that the site existed back then
Or maybe I was but I was disregarding it as "just another forum"
Some sites have a GR close reason. Or at least, did. English?
I close as Too Broad or Unclear for GR cases. As a non snarky way of saying "which part of the documentation do you not understand, we don't want to copy it all here ".
12:45
Im serously going to run out of close votes today stackoverflow.com/q/58219404/1841839 Must be something in the air
they can smell the weakened prey from afar
I was going to say they smell the blood in the water...
I've got four or five votes left, myself...
Didn't the site once allow us quite a few more votes? Was that when the CV queue topped 10k or so? Maybe they should turn that on for a lower limit...
Yeah the CV q was huge once.

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