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12:01 AM
Oh no!
 
it's going to be the third time a single day where I am going to be put words in my mouth that I did not say, apparently. I classify that as attempted murder :) of my sanity. Also, TIL I learned that when I am trying to align an element by writing code, I am not programming.
 
You can't murder something that's already dead
Your sanity was gone long ago :-)
 
well... that's fair
off to find out why the **** Hugo wraps HTML shortcuts in Markdown in <p> tags after parsing, brb
 
Hugo?
 
1:11 AM
@OlegValteriswithUkraine shortcodes, you hack
 
1:50 AM
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Q: This question appears to have an unremovable tag

Karl KnechtelThe question: The Input Function Doesn't Do Anything When I Click Enter in Python The question shows up for me as being tagged c# python input The c# tag should not be there. When I click to edit tags, however, it disappears from the list, only to show up again upon saving. I can't find any way t...

 
2:02 AM
@NewPosts I suppose C# has an unfinished business here
@NewPosts rest in peace, seems like C# wanted to be replaced before leaving us for the better world.
 
 
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4:44 AM
@CodyGray Legally you can. Let's say you break into somebody's home, then shoot them as they lay in bed. And during this, you didn't realise they had already died. Then you'd be tried for murder, as that is the explicit intention behind your actions. The fact that you shot a corpse does not change the intention, since you thought it wasn't a corpse.
 
Interesting.
What are the damages involved in murdering a corpse?
 
 
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6:06 AM
@VLAZ hmmm, wouldn't that be attempted murder? (not 100% certain, though, you might be right)
 
@RyanM Hmm, actually, maybe you're right.
 
Not googling "what is the penalty for murdering a corpse". It might be considered a political statement
 
Nah, that would require your government to accept that they're already a corpse :-)
 
Well, a zombie is, technically, a corpse :)
 
7:06 AM
Does "until death does us apart" apply if your souse is a zombie? Technically should, right. However, does that make you a widow(-er) or a divorcee?
 
Widower
Divorcee would require a formal divorce process
 
unless you have an established process for divorcing a zombie that is
 
@VLAZ Only if the death actually does part you.
 
Are we talking about the actual manifestation of death? Or if your zombie spouse wanders off, does that also count?
 
7:23 AM
Hmmmm. I'd personally argue for a standard of "but-for" causation. So if your zombie spouse wandered off because they were a zombie, that would count. But if they wandered off because they met another handsome zombie that they want to date, they need to file for divorce.
 
That's entering dangerous territory. We'd have to figure out how much (if any) conscious decision-making are zombies actually capable of.
 
What if finding another handsome zombie that they want to date is considered natural zombie-like behavior? Then, by doing the latter, they would be wandering off because they were a zombie, because that's what zombies do.
 
is dating a zombie necrophilia?
 
"necro-" dead and "-philia" love. So, yes
or was "-philia" more like attraction? Still fits.
 
nah, philia translates to love, yes
not necessarily physical, though
ok, clarification: "not necessarily" is an understatement
which is ironic given how the term does not mean "to feel sincere affection for a corpse"
 
7:32 AM
Same as "necromancer". Linguistics drift
 
Necromancer hasn't drifted...
 
@CodyGray Sounds like we need a complex multi-factor balancing test. Anyone know Justice Breyer?
 
It's one who practices divination rituals for the purposes of communicating with the dead.
 
Nowadays "necromancer" has come to mean "somebody who controls the dead"
 
It...has?
Even in modern occult usages, it's associated with seances and channeling and stuff, and that's all just communication with the dead...
 
7:38 AM
Games use "necromancy" for that all the time. It has seeped into wider culture. Bringing up an old topic, for example, might be described as "necromancy". It's somewhat popular online "thread necromancy" is posting in a "dead" online thread (one that hasn't had activity in a while). There is even a term "necroposting" for that.
 
Yes, but that's (thread necromancy/necroposting) precisely communicating with the dead, not "controlling" them, as you said.
You aren't controlling the thread, just using it to communicate with dead people/topics
 
Controlling, as in bringing them back into a false semblance of life. Like zombies.
 
Yeah honestly I thought it was raising/summoning/controlling the dead for the purpose of controlling them, not to communicate or predict the future, until y'all mentioned it and I looked it up.
 
Hrm.
Granted, my knowledge of this is based almost entirely on medieval and early-modern magical practices, and almost nothing of "modern-day"...
 
@RyanM "-mancy" is suffix for divination magic.
 
7:40 AM
So I guess I missed the shift.
 
Cody is an old soul.
 
It's relatively recent. I'm not sure when but 20th century. "Herbert West–Reanimator" could probably be called "necromancer" by more modern usages.
 
not old enough to communicate with via necromancy, though.
 
I don't think Cody is dead. We don't need necromancy, for that
 
Old, not dead
Not yet.
 
7:47 AM
Why? Do you plan on dying?
 
History major, not zombie. :-D
@VLAZ Eventually, yes.
 
@VLAZ well... one does not need to go far for an example :)
it can be argued that this is communicating with the spirits of the long lost posts, though. Sometimes they even communicate back
 
@CodyGray That seems wasteful. Just don't die and live forever.
 
The question is, @Oleg, an example of what? Bad page layout?
Why is Zoe left-aligned while everyone else is right-aligned?
 
@CodyGray haha, I noticed that too
 
7:48 AM
@VLAZ That seems horrible?
 
The page shows the political leanings?
 
Days since last mod-badge-induced wrapping bug: 0
 
@VLAZ I contemplated that.
I'm guessing that at least two of those people would not be right-aligned if that were the case.
But, of course, I don't know for certain.
@RyanM Has that counter ever been positive?
 
Maybe places the user information based on which their dominant hand is?
 
@CodyGray do you want a technical answer? Because width: calc(100% - 214px);. If you are going to ask why columns are created with this, please don't, I need to wash my eyes first
with gasoline
 
7:50 AM
@CodyGray Probably not. Maybe if you change it to "known", but even then...probably not.
 
@VLAZ lol, it actually does
 
@VLAZ You think she's sinister?
 
@OlegValteriswithUkraine "...then he turned his burning gaze towards me"
@CodyGray Isn't she?
 
I can't remember
 
The UI indicates it. It wouldn't lie to us, would it?
 
7:52 AM
Oh, I get it... she's standing alone, because she's standing with Ukraine.
 
@CodyGray no, not alone
 
Ah yes - Ukrainian supporters go to the left.
 
or Palestine
"all standing with Ukraine, Palestine, Monica please go to the left. You too, Félix"
 
Félix?
 
sorry, you need the context of first 5 pages of the badge to get it :)
joking aside, why is layout?
 
7:56 AM
Uh, yeah, that's about 4 pages more than should be necessary to look at
 
I see what they did now - anyone supporting anything is deemed far left by the UI team
 
@OlegValteriswithUkraine I'm not sure why you still ask this question. At least for me, I figured out there is no rhyme or reason.
 
seriously, though, why is layout? Why would anyone not use at least flexbox to create a row with two items??
 
"why is layout"
I cannot parse this
 
The horse raced past the barn fell
 
8:00 AM
@CodyGray just a sec
@CodyGray ok... so, imagine me saying that with this tone and voice
 
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Q: Does the current moderation harm users and content?

Martin ZeitlerAs an autistic person, I've been suspended the whole "Autism Awareness April", due to a ridiculous argument, which started with me literally being called a jerk. I've already brought this up on meta, but 80% of my question were soon censored, just to make the question appear as a duplicate - and ...

 
@NewPosts wait, did we travel back in time? I have a sense of deja vu
 
@NewPosts ...But why the explicit <br> to make the content text explicitly narrower?
 
oh... that's why it looks narrower than usual
 
Sigh
 
8:14 AM
@NewPosts looks like a landmine
 
@CodyGray because I am a goddess and I god damn get to decide where I align on the page! :p
 
I get it. You're the goddess of Stack Overflow design.
 
@ZoestandswithUkraine Seems fair
 
8:35 AM
@ZoestandswithUkraine if you are a goddess, can you please will us a decent design, oh allmighty? :)
 
I see you've come to accept that divine intervention is the only way to save the site design.
 
@OlegValteriswithUkraine unfortunately, I'm not that almighty. I've tried, but my plans were foiled by git revert
 
The site design - apparently beyond even divine intervention.
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@VLAZ it seems like we might need to resort to summoning the Destroyer. Cleansing with fire might help
 
May Tony have mercy on our souls.
 
8:42 AM
@ZoestandswithUkraine well, not even gods can stand against those weave branches threads of time!
 
@VLAZ me and Tony are good pals actually
I've had to do some XML and HTML parsing with regex, so been visited once or twice :p
Or 84 million times if each line of the comment data dump counts for separate visits/hauntings
... Or ~300 million including failed attempts and a reparse because my laptop died and transferring 20GB to a max 200Mbps bottlenecked USB 2 network shared HDD would've taken too long
Shesh, Cody's been busy writing an entire novel while I barely got out two comments :p
 
That was quite a masterpiece (really, no joke) :)
 
8:58 AM
^
 
haha
Half of it was copy-pasted, in my defense
I wrote it earlier :-)
 
So, you've been plagiarising!
 
No, there's attribution
 
Where do Rust people get so much Iron?
 
Same as everybody else, I though - they extract it from the blood of their fallen enemies.
 
9:05 AM
I heard they attack bridges
And yeah, then extract it from the blood of their enemies
 
So the bridges are where they fell the enemies and spill their blood?
This seems eminently practical.
However, it makes me wonder about Rust claiming to be a "safe" language.
 
Yes. A safe - like the big metal box where you keep things. They are still building it - one human body has around 3-4mg of iron in it, so it takes a while to collect enough for the safe.
 
Ah, I see.
But... doesn't it call their "efficiency" claims into question?
 
Look, if you know of any better method to make a safe - go ahead and try it.
 
@CodyGray yep.
@VLAZ they used vampires for a while, but they went rogue
 
9:15 AM
@CodyGray I am not sure it's practical - imagine how much time is spent in ownership disputes! Oh, I see what they meant know, should've clarifed it was about time-consuming practices of spilling the blood.
 
9:27 AM
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Q: Rep scores are displayed wrong, higher as they should

jay.sfWhen sorting by time, some rep scores appear to be too high (not for my personal taste but for logic), the sum is correct though. Is this a bug?

 
And the award for the worst comment flag goes to...
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No, really, that's the entire message
 
You call that "worst"? I'd say that's one of the clearer ones.
 
Seems pretty clear to me. It's a line. It means the comment crossed it.
 
Too many people believe in a spontaneous generation-style fallacy when it comes to tags.
They appear to think that certain tags create low-quality questions.
 
The same way fire trucks cause fires, right?
 
9:42 AM
Well, yeah
If we got rid of all the fire trucks, then there couldn't be any more fires
 
@VLAZ why is that a question? Have you never seen fire trucks spew fire before?
 
You're thinking of Fahrenheit 451?
 
@ZoestandswithUkraine I don't need to see that happening. When a building is on fire, there are fire trucks around. Correlation!
 
9:59 AM
I see a lot of fires around here, but no fire trucks
 
Better than too many fire trucks clashing with each other
 
@NewPosts funny how at this point literally everyone reproduced this except for SE :)
 
Maybe they're like me: they never look at reputation pages
 
I thought they were supposed to look at logs
 
Why? They're not lumberjacks.
 
10:09 AM
@CodyGray are you sure? When have you last looked at the redesigned pages? :)
 
They certainly seem to design with chainsaws.
 
See? And you say they aren't
and stuff is axed all the time too
 
Woods Underflow.
 
@CodyGray I think certain tags encourage the posting of low-quality questions. e.g., encourages the posting of off-topic questions about how things should be done in that architecture.
Of course, people will probably post many of them anyway. But maybe fewer people would?
 
Can we just burninate [android] already?
 
10:19 AM
Like how encourages the posting of off-topic questions about how things should be done in that language?
 
@ZoestandswithUkraine I've been trying for years!
People keep posting more.
 
Well, we've got our two tag experts right here. I think that meets policy requirements.
 
That tag definitely encourages the posting of low-quality questions ...many of which are tagged instead.
 
@CodyGray Does that qualify me for my own emergency psychologist for the trauma inflicted by years of android dev? :')
 
10:21 AM
 
@ZoestandswithUkraine Didn't you get your certificate with the tag badge?
 
Unfortunately
 
@CodyGray not a tag expert, but a mod on another site. Does that count? :p
 
Also got it long after I stopped android
 
Any question tagged [android-studio][java] or [android-studio][kotlin] should be automatically kicked into a review queue.
 
10:23 AM
Or [Android-studio][android]
 
(there are on-topic, correctly tagged questions with those tags...but it's surely a minority)
@ZoestandswithUkraine I'd have gone the other way. If you tag [android-studio] but not [android], it suggests you didn't know the latter existed and would've been better.
 
I'm considering adding a feature to Dragon to optionally remove android/java/Kotlin or Android-studio with the click of a button
 
since all AS questions are Android questions, but not vice-versa
 
Meh, I'll argue nearly no AS questions are Android questions
 
Is anyone using AS for non-Android dev? Although I see the perspective that if it's about the IDE it's sort of not about the platform.
 
10:26 AM
Waiting for my phone to charge atm, might as well patch dragon for tag wars :p
 
@CodyGray I dunno what that question would be, but I'm closing it.
 
@RyanM the overwhelming majority of the time, AS questions have nothing to do with the Android bit of Android dev
 
How can an Android Studio question not be Android related?
 
Or as I like to put it, questions about code meta aren't actually about code
 
@CodyGray imagine you have a question about highlighting in an IDE: that's IDE related, regardless of what language the highlighting is done on
 
But it's highlighting in Android! /s
I see.
 
And there you've perfectly illustrated the problem
Android studio is just the worst tag of the bunch, because Android attracts so many developers with little to no experience
 
@RyanM to reverse-engineer 3rd-party production APK, though not so effective
 
All IDE tags have this exact problem
People assume they use the IDE makes such a huge difference to their code far too often
 
10:31 AM
@AndrewT. argh, those questions are the worst.
"how do I add X feature to Y app that I just have the APK for?" seriously?
 
10:52 AM
@RyanM unrelated, I recently downloaded the Google apk, how can I change the logo? Tanks in have advanceding
 
@ZoestandswithUkraine Wait until it's a holiday and it should work. Hope that helps! Also please upvote, accept, like, and subscribe to my YouTube channel.
 
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A: Possible loophole in system found by eccentric user behaviour

I don't have a nameLet me tell you why. Long time ago here on main meta, I posted a question, a excellent one which attracted an upvote almost immediately. My response was almost as quick; I deleted their account. Subsequently, 6 minutes later another question was posted about "asking on behalf of a friend". That a...

^ what the hell is this?
 
@RyanM can I also donate to your on apathicreon??
 
@OlegValteriswithUkraine Trolling. Needs flags.
 
@RyanM I see. Just made the connection that they are the user in the screenshot :)
 
11:02 AM
@OlegValteriswithUkraine comments need more flags; MSE mods are asleep
 
@ZoestandswithUkraine I've already pinged them
 
@MetaAndrewT. Yeah, flag it! — I don't have a name 3 mins ago
I always do what I'm told.
 
@ZoestandswithUkraine sure - cast a final R/A nail in the coffin. And a mod flag as per usual
 
Too bad they don't have an SO account
 
"too bad"... I think you are using this phrase incorrectly
 
11:09 AM
I, too, hate not having to deal with eccentric user behavior. Wait, no, the opposite of that.
 
Ooooh, then better not look here, @RyanM....
 
@CodyGray you clearly should have linked /questions, since the more eccentric bits are often only there :-p
 
Downvotes: they work.
 
"Dear user, we kindly ask you to create a Stack Overflow account so we can issue you a well-deserved suspension. Warmest Regards, Stack Overflow moderator team."
 
"Dear user, would you please create an account so that we may destroy it? Tanks in advancement."
 
11:20 AM
The meta room? More like the mod room laughs in diamond majority
 
I see diamonds everywhere - is this terminal?
 
Sounds like you have a bad terminal :p
 
dunno if it's bad if your terminal yields diamonds :)
 
Wouldn't it have been funnier to make a joke about a jewelry store?
Why would there be diamonds in your terminal?
 
Why wouldn't they?
 
11:39 AM
Because diamonds aren't ASCII characters, and terminals should contain only ASCII characters, just as God intended!
 
Ew
You're clearly not a terminal power user :p
 
I have all the power I need
Incidentally... I spend hours a day with a terminal.
 
Well, that's an ugly abomination.
 
Nah, it's great
Aside the part where is on my phone, but still
Desperate times, etc
At least my battery is good to go. Time to semi-automate tag removal
 
12:09 PM
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Q: Good answer gets removed, since its to close to another answer in another question

TigerwareIs it okay that a good answer gets removed, since it is too similar to another answer in a linked question? I have a specific situation, but won't post links to keep this question universal. Context: I was looking for a solution for a problem on StackOverflow and found 2 questions about this, but...

 
 
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7:31 PM
I've once again summoned Tony the Pony
 
 
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8:45 PM
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Q: If a tag wiki excerpt is quoted from another source, is it acceptable to provide attribution in the tag's wiki content?

Bender the GreatestWhen editing tag wikis, the excerpt is limited when compared to the tag's wiki in that: Markdown formatting does not occur, as a result links are not formatted as links, as an example We are limited to the number of characters we can use A tool or technology is often (not always) described best...

 

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