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12:08 AM
Whew, what a day
 
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!!tell sterlingarcher define day
 
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Oh noes
 
Shame on you
 
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!!do you not love me anymore?
 
@Jhawins Definitely
 
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12:10 AM
Whatever
 
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@SterlingArcher are you just getting off? Isn't it like 8-9
 
I usually get off around 9
 
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I meant work
 
Ish? I got home around 5, played some overwatch and I've been back at it since 7
Got a deliverable due tomorrow and I wanna crush it
 
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Oh. I thought your whew message was indicative of finishing work
 
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12:12 AM
I'm pissed. My mp3 player came but I didn't get home in time to pick up packages
 
.. mp3 player?
Man I remember when those were like MB storages lol
so old
youtube.com/watch?v=RdyExxpd3Pg @Loktar I wish the screamer was the only singer. He needs to shine that growl
Don't get me wrong the singers are great but he's so underused
 
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@SterlingArcher I bought a 4gb one lmfao
 
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The one I used to have cause it's got bomb audio. Takes SD cards so whatever
 
@Jhawins the only thing I'd buy again is an ipod shuffle for runs
I need SD cards for my car. I keep forgetting it was 2 SD slots
 
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12:18 AM
My car has 2 USB ports
 
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My truck has 3 lmao they shipping radios with way too many ports now
 
lmao is that the zune's grandkid
 
The Sansa Clip is honestly a really good MP3 player
 
@Jhawins you got it already?
 
So anyone successfully get 1Gbps~ internet to come in fully via Wi-Fi? Just upgraded at our house and I can get it just fine via Ethernet. But I can only get my Wi-Fi to top out at 80mbps~ on all my devices. Currently running 802.11n minimum on all of them.
But most of them are 802.11ac
just a note I do understand that 802.11n tops out at 450mbps under the right circumstances, I'd just like to get this shit past 80mbps. I'm using a dedicated 8812AU Realtek Wi-Fi adapter on this machine.
 
12:29 AM
@William huh?
does this have something to do with your avatar?
 
@Jhawins what are lmao ports?
 
12:47 AM
@Loktar no I just noticed you didn't use whois privacy on the last domain you posted. I have made a request to link chat.js.org to this chat
@Jhawins is that a VHS?
 
1:09 AM
@hilli_micha good luck. Even with 8 or 16 antenna, that's still right around the theoretical limits (if not still above them).
 
Oddly enough, I was able to get my iPhone to 150mbps over Wi-fi in the same room. But I honestly think I'm just gonna be relegated to dropping ethernet through the entire house.
 
does your wifi AP show what band, channel, and options a client is connected with?
 
Yeah. I've been looking through them. 80mhz band, channel 161, and other options I'm not sure of at this second
 
I'm using an 8814 realtek chipset here and it can push quite a bit, so that should work
was the phone on 5ghz?
 
Are you using windows? Debugging @oboecat's wifi issues it was discovered that the OS was forcing n while the card supported ac
 
1:13 AM
The iPhone was on 5ghz yes, and yes I am using Windows
 
if the wikipedia chart is anything to go by, you're going to need 3+ streams on 5ghz to get gbit
 
@ShrekOverflow Ooo, I'll need to look into that.
 
which is non-trivial hardware
the 1750 chip should do it, though
 
@ssube just curious what do you think will cause 100-400+ ms ping issues pinging 192.168.1.1
I have never seen that 😛 but I can't figure out why oboe's laptop does that and its a PITA in games
it seems every 6-8th ping ends up with a massive ping overhead
any suggestions or debug tools 😀 ?
 
how fast are you running those pings? I assume that's your router?
 
1:17 AM
Windows inbuilt ping utility
 
also what platform are you on (please say one with dmesg)?
oh, boo
 
yeah 😛
She would switch to Linux but can't due to other tools and college crap
 
meh, I just wanted to see what happens if you ping more often
is it time-based, packet-count based, or random?
 
Nice idea!
 
finally got the line to dash
 
1:19 AM
following that, does it happen when you ping loopback (CPU load) or a non-wifi address (noise)?
 
college crap you too sorry!
 
Rusty spoons
 
@oboecat can you arrive 😃 ?
 
@bootace
or aceboot
 
Wow TIL I can't ping faster on windows, hmm 4 terminals then
 
1:22 AM
No ddos plz
 
huh, you can't set the rate on windows
if you can take down a server with 4 terminals, that server needs to stay down
 
it's an arduino
 
If you can take down a router with 4 terminals, you need a refund.
 
but that's literally every consumer router...
 
1:23 AM
a mechanical router
 
Heh, my ISP router can take that very nicely ... whoa
 
A
 
oh man, don't tempt Kendall
I can just imagine a fully mechanical router with firewall rules and port forwarding
although that doesn't involve regex, so maybe not
 
My (not oboe's) router kept up with -i 0.01 , heh!
1x1 802.11ac + Bluetooth 4.0, Intel 3165 Dual Band 2.4&5 GHz
 
🔥
 
1:31 AM
So, funny thing, I updated my Intel Wi-Fi (AC as well) drivers on here and that bumped me from 80mbps cap to 190mbps
 
1x1, hands of wifi?
@hilli_micha do you have multiple NICs enabled and connected?
 
Multiple connected to the machine, but only one connected to a network at a time
At least for now, to diagnose what is going on
 
@ssube I realized whats going on now
didn't read that 1x1 :|
now I feel stupid xD
@oboecat your issue has been resolved
 
Up to now, I kind of ignored the Intel one because I figured that since it's onboard that it was kind of shitty, but it seems like all it needed was a driver update.
 
1:34 AM
@Luggage ?
 
2x2, hands of blue
 
@ShrekOverflow oh? what was it?
 
Cool result dude.
 
@hilli_micha actually, Intel makes some of the best network gear
 
I'm gonna be so hype when I upload shit.
 
1:36 AM
@ssube seems like if bluetooth is enabled it'll cause delays on that card (found it on the dark sides of the internet)
(on the intel forum)
 
what speed test is that?
 
Gonna test it without bluetooth for a day or two and see if that stablizes it
also weird enough she gets more lag spikes on 5Ghz than 2.4 Ghz 😃
 
Speedtest.net
 
eh, that makes sense. 5ghz is touchy
 
> We are glad that you found a workaround for this situation. Please keep in mind that ping spikes are expected and in some cases may go up to 500 ms during background scanning.
- Intel
 
1:38 AM
what is background scanning and why are they doing it?
 
i only get about 15mb/s over my ethernet over powerline adapters that are 10 years old
 
@ssube Do you run Windows with your Realtek NIC? I actually can't find any Windows drivers available for download on these things.
 
but my phone gets 60mb/s from the wifi (same network)
 
@Luggage Yeah I've got a powerline adapter to this machine as well, I can't get it above 40mbps reliably, despite the fact they're rated for 500mbps.
 
@hilli_micha I did briefly and it worked without any extra drivers, PnP
it's a USB adapter with the 8814 chip, though
 
1:39 AM
I can find a ton of Linux drivers.
 
@ssube apparently they scan for "other" networks
in the background
every few seconds
I suspect for Bluetooth Stations / Wifi SSIDs but that just feels stupid
 
makes sense, I guess. Also seems like something you could turn off.
 
this machine has a pair of the ASUS combined wifi/bluetooth cards and I haven't seen that from either, but...
also, you all got me looking at my wifi
most of those claim the same speed on the client side, but not the AP side :D
 
omfg.. For the first time in my life. Device Manager -> Right-Click Device -> Update Drivers -> Automatically update through Windows Update actually updated drivers and improved my situation.
It installed new drivers for the 8812 and bumped from 80mpbs to 121mbps/282mbps
 
1:44 AM
Zoinks!
 
I'm legitimately going to remember this day for the rest of my life.
 
I've had pretty good luck with it since... 7? definitely on 10
although it did install the wrong driver for a virtual device once and brick that VM, so...
 
I've never had good luck with actually managing drivers through Windows Update outside of absolutely basic plug and play.
I know that it uses Windows Update during that process (or tries to). I've just never noticed a positive from it.
I'm honestly perplexed as to why my upload is so much higher than my download. I've got no problem at all getting 300mbps upload.
 
@ssube this is the full explanation of oboe's issues superuser.com/questions/783518/…
I wonder if MSFT and Intel were trolling on purpose when they implemented this 😃
@hilli_micha o/
maybe becuase other devices are also downloading stuff ?
or is your laptop the only device connected on the network?
 
Quite possibly, I may have overlooked that. We've got an Apple TV and Amazon Fire Stick running right now I believe.
@ssube (sorry, double ping) It looks like you're right on this one because the Intel NIC is consistently getting 200Mbps over 802.11ac, the 8812AU flucuates a bit between 100mbps-140mbps.
 
2:00 AM
user image
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As an aside, I haven't had much luck with Killer Ethernet drivers.
They've been a royal thorn in my side.
 
I have used a Killer device once
it was good.
I am on a macbook, never had wifi issues on this shit
 
Me either, funny thing is, Ashley's Macbook Pro is having no problems with wifi. It's been hovering around 150mbps this whole time, which I think is acceptable for the 2015 MBP.
 
vOv
I have the same macbook, it is bloody fast
> The MacBook Pro should be able to reach this 802.11ac wifi Speed of 1 300 Mbit/s, however be aware, that this speed depends on your connection.
 
Only problem that exists with it currently is that the battery only has about half of it's original capacity. So the charger is becoming more and more of a baby sitter, but that's not apples fault, that's just using it for about 3 years.
 
2:06 AM
switch the battery? ... oh wait its soldered?
btw @hilli_micha you can get full ac speed on the MBP
AirDrop uses it
 
No, it's in there with adhesive though, you need to use acetone to get it out.
btw, speaking of batteries, my Dell XPS battery started bloating last week and popped out my track pad lol
Fortunately, even though my laptop is out of warranty, this was actually quite a common issue with the XPS 9550, enough so that Dell has issued a bulletin on it that they'll send you a new battery at no charge, even out of warranty.
 
That is nice!
Am pretty sure a 56 W explosion will kill you
 
84W for the US 4K variants
 
ai yai yai
 
I actually took it out in the yard and stabbed one of the non-bloated cells with a cutter and it immediately expanded and caught fire. Kinda cool I guess
 
2:11 AM
you are an adventure loving person I see
 
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@hilli_micha this just happened to one of my friends dells
 
They send off for a new battery from dell too?
 
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no, he junked it and bought another laptop
 
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he has fuck you money and wanted something new
 
Another MBP test came back at 155mbps download - 650mbps upload. Im havin a laff
via Wi-fi.
 
2:18 AM
Note to self: Not to try custom loops for next 5 years
 
@William oh, I rarely do
 
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does anyone here use the cash.me app by square?
 
2:43 AM
Here is a weird TypeScript issue: I have a file, A.ts, that contains a few objects that are being exported. In another file, B.ts, I import these objects: import { objectA } from "../A.ts". Everything works, but here is the problem: If I use TypeScript's baseUrl and paths property to create an alias (so I can do from @root/A.ts instead of from ../A.ts), then Typescript compiles, but objectA becomes undefined at runtime. What could be going wrong?
 
@Luggage wanna go see Parkway Drive with me in silver spring next month?
 
( Í¡° ͜ʖ Í¡°)
what's "Parkway Drive"?
 
A band D:
 
ohh, whew. I thought it was a movie. That was awkward for a second.
 
2:47 AM
Not really my scene, concerts.
 
Will several beers change your mind
 
no. way too many people in one spot.
 
D:
I wish Gojira was coming near too, but the closest is.. Maine or something
@Loktar fly out for a concert? 😃 You're my runner up xD
 
haha nah I'm good
 
DAMMIT
 
2:54 AM
@DemCodeLines do you provide those same aliases at runtime?
 
@ssube Not quite sure what you mean by that. I set the alias (baseUrl and paths properties) in tsconfig.json, but not in the webpack file itself.
 
iirc you have to set the aliases in both places
 
3:40 AM
GUUYSSS, I will be speaking at PyCon
25
 
\o/ Congrats!
 
Thanks!!!
I want to cry
 
@BadgerCat o/
Congrats!
PyCon where?
 
@BadgerCat congrats that's awesome!
Do you get your own python?
 
3:56 AM
@SterlingArcher Hmm... I think they give you a rat and you have to eat it in front of the audience to prove that you're a real pythonista.
4
 
Ah the ol' Ozzy
Classic, and classy
 
I hope I get a small one.
 
4:42 AM
Wish I was in US 😃, I'd attend it 😀
 
5:11 AM
somehow, one of the GitHub tabs I had opened was using 2GB of memory :|
 
In the MDN page for mouseover event developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/Events/mouseover , pageX and pageY properties are missing even though they are present, who so?
 
I'm not sure, but maybe because those properties are non standard?
 
@Ikari Maybe you are right they are experimental
stackoverflow.com/questions/31398209/… This question is perfectly good, why is it closed
 
5:47 AM
Can someone tell me how does zindex and opacity play out?
I am getting confused about them
 
@FlorianMargaine carrefour is putting chickens on the blockchain: bloomberg.com/news/features/2018-04-09/…
@BadgerCat 😃 nice! ... I mean, traitor!
 
@BadgerCat Congrats! :D
Sucks that it won't be in English :/
Make sure someone records the rat-eating, though!
 
5 track conference? That's new to me
 
@SomeGuy Parcel-tongue, right?
 
6:11 AM
@monners You know it. Delivery's the best in parcel-tongue
 
@BadgerCat Nah, they don't do that. Mice are usually suffficient
@SomeGuy Ba dum tss
 
6:31 AM
@BadgerCat congrats.
I hope that you did not have eaten a rat so far.
 
Hey heyo
 
hai
 
@KarelG Never forget your first, right?
 
7:23 AM
damn, the Your lie in April live action movie was pretty nice
 
@SterlingArcher pay for my flight, convince Trump to let me in to your country and I'll come
@BadgerCat congrats! :)
 
@Jhawins I joined in 2012 bro
 
Now I wonder when I joined
Feb 2012... jesus christ
 
nerds
 
7:42 AM
July 2010, lol
 
in Ayo.js, Aug 23 '17 at 20:21, by Jhoverit
Be back when Madara rage bans me
lol
 
how do you check that ?
tried searching by caprica's welcome message, but I have chat entries from before that period
 
> chat user since 2013-07-28
 
@BadgerCat woooo that's awesome
 
For you
@BadgerCat awesome, what about?
 
7:48 AM
> chat user since 2013-07-30
 
Soon I am "5 years" old here
 
@MadaraUchiha Thanks !
 
Though I wasn't really a regular until like 2014
 
> chat user since 2014-12-29
 
@BadgerCat I don't see you on us.pycon.org/2018/schedule/talks/list :(
 
7:50 AM
> chat user since 2011-08-08
oh boy, it's even earlier
 
haha
 
@FlorianMargaine seems like they don't list the spanish talks there
@SomeGuy have you been 11 at that time?
:P
 
@GNi33 Hahaha allegedly
 
> chat user since 2014-01-07
it's only been 4 years?
 
7:54 AM
@SomeGuy makes me think, you've been a more "grown up" young person than most young persons I've come across
 
it's been 4 years already?
 
it feels like I died and was reborn a couple of times since I came here
 
Some might say I have an old soul
@FlorianMargaine Hahaha the difference one word can make
 
rlemon one-shot kills me almost every time
 
I remember being so excited when I first found this chat
 
7:56 AM
benjamin camps
 
It was like I'd finally found "my people", even though I didn't understand half of what anyone talked about
 
haha
 
dugger is like the noob-troll
 
It's nice having a haven with other like-minded people
It's not often you meet other programmers irl
 
I'm still waiting for the big room meetup
 
7:57 AM
Well for me
 
was about to say, speak for yourself
this last month, I must have met like 3-non programmers
and around 100 programmers
 
@BenFortune I do meet them occasionally, but I have too little among my friends really
 
@GNi33 We're just waiting for @copy to propose, right? :P
 
haha, 17 crashes a wedding?
 
In fact the only person in my friend circle that is a programmer is my colleague
 
7:59 AM
@BenFortune just you wait until I move to Liverpool
 
Yeah, I've got a few programmer friends at college, but only 1-2 of them actually enjoy tech
 
@BenFortune how'd you meet the rest?
 
@GNi33 Are you actually
 
I was strongly considering it
 
I mean I'm like 2 hours drive from Liverpool
 

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