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00:00
who here likes linkedin or thinks it's a good idea to have an account there?
meh
couldn't hurt
it's certainly not a bad idea
I don't want to list my skills
first of all, I don't have many
if i was actively looking for a job i'd have mine not hidden
can't say I like it, but I'm a picky bastard
that reminds me, I should add my aws cert
00:01
but it just feels wrong for some reason. I can't pin it down
my gripes with linkedin have nothing to do with the job searching portion of it, it's more that it gets abused as a leads service.
which, to you, wouldn't matter
it feels like a desperate way to do networking
most of the messages are spam, it's like the worse version of SO's developer story
if anything it's just extremely uninteresting
all middle managers and their world-changing articles on how to middle manage more
like me, being in a decision position here, linkedin is used by marketers to get my name and then they cold call the company and ask for me by name
kinda irritating
only way i can stop it would be to delete the account... but i don't want to do that
so you keep it hidden?
oh
00:04
hiding it doesn't fix the problem, paid marketers can still see hidden accounts.
yeah, I get quite a bit of spam through it. Less than to gmail directly, maybe
the offers are more relevant (they are looking at my resume), but still not good
I could apply for any of these, but I'd go for either front or backend ofc: decent.ch/en/careers
but then I don't particularly like react
> Blockchain Software
nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooope
don't get caught up in what libraries/languages you like/don't like
and I never worked as a backend dev in production
00:05
just get a job
you might realize you were wrong
@KevinB well, it also means I don't spend time sharpening it, which means I'm not a great react dev at all
I could just learn to love it
or I could see if I can manage to get into the backend
3
wow
you people
I love you so much
like, i'm all for being picky and finding the right job, but... imo, unless you have one or have the means to get by without one for a while, being picky might not be a great idea.
like, I don't need one immediately
this is the phase where I start thinking about it in more detail
I think I'd enjoy the backend position in the short term
but maybe I'll start getting grumpy and have a ponytail
I much prefer working on backend, but that's mostly because i want to avoid having to do any design work.
it's also easier to impress non-techies with frontend than with backend
or not?
00:10
noone sees the backend work.
the bore slower when there are shapes to look at
if this feels like ranting and not asking for advice, someone please tell me to stop
HAMMERTIME!
@towc not
Get a job as a hiking stalker
00:10
being a developer these days is about as cool as working at a department store
well, demoscene stuff is still cool
ohh a department store. rare.
blockchains and the cloud will get you the confused stares
it's "oooh that thing from a music video"
I remember back when I was a scene girl
00:12
I love demos and graphics in general, but not once have they impressed anyone
well, not in a way that mattered
she didn't sleep with you. got it
well, what job even impresses?
people kinda hate managers
and young CEOs are so mainstream
their own
anything that offers cocaine and a fast car
maybe voluntary jobs for non-profits
00:13
being a young and successful CEO certainly counts
@towc fire fighter
@ssube as long as they don't make a big deal out of it
but just about all the ones I met do
oh, they do, and it works
@Luggage oh, sure
I could become a firefighter
@ssube for golddiggers maybe
but golddiggers aren't people anyway
That’s racist against persians
00:16
everyone is just a little bit golddigger since accumulating money shows you have either ambition or intelligence or some skill
I would never marry a woman who couldn't mine her own gold. How will she plate headphone connectors?
money, especially self-earned, is just such a visible indicator. Also it affects the future. What you'll be arguing about.
where to go for lunch, or how you are going to pay the electric bill
what bridge to sleep under
@Luggage I guess for most people
but not really
who covers the meth tonight
00:18
most/all. But I am with you on not liking actual gold diggers
people that intentionally go for money, instead of just letting it influence them like it naturally will
yeah, no, I would never go for @SterlingArcher's type
I just don't want to think about money. I'd like to think most people don't either
one way to do that is to have a big source of money
so I guess this logic applies to diggers as well
actually, there's some science about that
yea. seek green grass
having enough money cuts stress, but it stops around $60k, iirc
once you can pay your bills, more doesn't make things better
00:19
/yr?
i hear 80k and it is of course, dependent on area
yea, yearly income
basically once you are paste entry-level programmer, ytou can make that amount of money fairly easily.
I'm sure there's a way to calculate it based on the local cost of living or something
So when you tell someone you are a (employed) programmer, you are telling them you have that one big problem/worry mostly checked off the list.
turns out one of my friends was getting paid 45€/hr at his previous company. He's good at his job, but didn't like the workplace, so he's now also moving to this company for like 25€/hr, so he can be with friends and a less toxic workplace
it changes the question from "can I afford this thing I need?" to "can I afford this thing I want?"
00:20
I respect him so much
as long as he's saving for future needs, then I agree.
if he's happer, then it's worth it
seeking money isn't just about greed, but self preservation in the future
he wanted to try out "what corporate work feels like"
went in with that idea, and is going out with the same idea. That's so damn respectable (in this context)
if anything, that's impressive
I ordered the Arroz con Pollo de La Diabla for dinner and this is going to hurt..
The devil chicken?
i don't speak spanish
But it sounds like you're probably going to die
it was not as hot as normal :(
i'll live
00:35
@hilli_micha female-devil
So you're exclusively eating a female chicken? Im so confused.
it's just spicy chicken
is eating roosters a thing?
also why is my audio gone?
I don't know if I want to lose this independent freelancer/consultant/contractor-only gig I have going on
I bet a lot of you have some resources that could really help
i still don't know if i want to work independently or for a company myself, so I certainly can't help you
00:38
but most of the advice is going to be "get a real job"
@Luggage well, your uncertainty helps me with not feeling like i'm too stupid :D
btw, someone made me a "js cheesecake"
Just Succeed
very motivational cake
I legit get scared when my laptop just wakes from sleep without provocation.
@Luggage you think you'll ever find out?
Like I said something that triggered Weeping Angel or some shit and now I'm being spied on.
I don't doubt a lot of people do, but in your case
it's like the burning submarine. I'll find out... too late.
00:42
also, when are you retiring?
you're closer to that end than the starting, right?
just need one more nail for my coffin, yes.
no. more working years ahead than behind :(
i'm only 38
wait really :/
oh, I thought you were 52 for some reason
I thought he was 65
um, thanks?
My real name is an anagram for Dull Old Man.
38 checks out
not sure where I got that from
00:44
he was 52 back in 38
ah that makes sense
also, to fix linux audio: reboot a few times
once doesn't do it
will that fix the fact that I have usb audio?
@Luggage your new nick should just be "DOM"
my USB audio kept working, it was the onboard 3.5 that cut out
not a fucking clue why
00:46
I got monitor speakers that I thought were only powered by usb :(
heh
is USB audio bad?
He's very confident, huh?
(I had logged in to test out a live stream service and then just quit because it was confusing)
I have bad feelings about it from back in the day when some sound cards (the cheaper ones) were half software and slowed your PC down
how do I destroy his confidence?
I don't even know if usb audio is like that, and I notice no issues, so.. it's just a stupid bias
00:48
I miss sound cards that came with sweet demos
SoundBlaster's dungeon tours were the shit
That and sound cards that had cool Media Player software that had a UI that looked like CD trays and stereo-systems
aw yeah
the brief time I was at Wine & co they were working on USB headset support for Dragon
back when cd audio was another connector on the disk drive
that was ugly, usb audio on linux has come a long way in 5 years
ohh, and the monitor itself seems to show up as an audio device, too.
display port audio, i guess
00:51
I'm actually using that and the little Rolls box I linked the other day to mix the linux host and windows guest audio to my speaker
i have no dedicated sound card, but 7 audio devices (in windows)
Steam streaming adds a few
@KamilSolecki wow, nice
not as bad as network adapters
13 of them
wifi 1, wifi 2, wifi 3, vpn 1, vpn 2, vpn 3, etc?
00:52
well, i have two nics on the MB, 1 wifi in USB (not current used, but there). then lots of software ones
sonicwall vpn
two on the mobo? wifi and ethernet or something unusual?
just two wired.
1 intel, 1 qualcom
huh, never had a box with 2 wired
just a gigabybe MB. I wasn't looking for two
cool, my device audio control cut out, but the program audio level works...
00:56
many years old. I may think about new hardware soon. just MB/cpu/ram
i don't know my sockets and cpus enough to know if i even need a new MB for a new cpu
will need to research
you need a new one if you go from skylake to laterlake
why not have separate modules for each component of a computer?
that's part of how my VM upgrade ballooned into a new machine
@Shmiddty with USB 3 (XHCI) and PCIe, that's essentially the case
AI persona core installed. FUCKIN EH
unfortunately you have to keep those parts very close together thanks to things like voltage and electron speed
00:58
electrons get tired
morn
my electrical engineering is bad, but it's DC, so you need higher voltage for longer distance, yeah? Higher voltage means more heat and more leaks when you're at the 10-20nm scale silicon is. Is that even vaguely right?
what I'm thinking is you'd have a self-enclosed CPU module that you could replace without having to take apart the whole system, same for memory, graphics, etc
is that not feasible?
is that not the case today?
01:00
not really
is it me or is this an osx fail?
I replaced my memory the other day, removed nothing else
155.299.533 bytes (155,3 MB on disk)
how can that be correct?
it can be. small PC with thunderbolt 3 ports for external gpu, hard drive
divide that by 1024 twice, I get 148 MB
01:01
155.29... / 1000000
MB vs Mb vs MiB and all that
@jAndy That's MB, not MiB
@Shmiddty I think Razer had a concept for what you're talking about. Where components of the PC were easily swappable as modules as opposed to opening a case and such - www2.razerzone.com/christine
file systems usually use MB, memory uses MiB
you could argue that an open-case/no-case build is equally modular
the 1024 based one is all I care about. the others are fakers
01:02
@hilli_micha yeah, that's basically what I was thinking
^ that
1024 is truth
uhm wut
I thought MB was still a power of 2
2 is truth
1 is a lie
now I'm being told MiB is a power of 2, while MB is a power of 10?
@towc In technical terms yes
01:03
not a joke, and not new
MB still often means either
little known and often ignored, maybe
I thought MiB meant Men in Black
that's MIB and MIIB (for the second movie)
@KendallFrey the ambiguity is making me twitch
01:04
I never even knew that anyone is calculating or displaying the power of 1 / base 10 shit
this is asking for trouble
@jAndy every hard drive box
until now, I was wondering why my own upload calculations for a file were different from osx display
yea, it seemed to start there. made it sound larger.
2 mins ago, by Kendall Frey
file systems usually use MB, memory uses MiB
@jAndy That's why my 1TB drive has 930GB available
01:05
file systems have used 1024-based in my experience
@KendallFrey holy shit
I thought it was stupid OS stuff or hardware
wow, I'm really glad I learnt about this
the FAT has something to do with it, but not as much
@Luggage yeah good point, it's the disk manufacturers that use base 10
@KendallFrey you mean 930 GiB, right?
Cuz disk manufacturers are the biggest jerks
01:06
This could only have been the idea of some marketing genius / idiot... "oh.. let's calculate it by 1000 instead the true 1024, sounds bigger then"
my penis is measured in MB instead of MiB
@jAndy People have been exaggerating the sizes of things since there have been people.
imperial inches
Measuring in Metric in the U.S. is an easy way to impress the ladies.
Ay girl, I'm packin 25.4mm of love
Sounds big when you do it that way
01:07
I re-learned the other day that the inch is actually defined in terms of metric
I think we should have a storage system in base 7
just to fuck with people
but we already have a base that fucks with people
@towc septal. OS/2 used that.
@hilli_micha I only have half a cubit :/
@towc Go back to your Malbolge
@Luggage oh wow
01:08
@towc j/k :)
@Luggage stop playing with my innocence
the most OS/2 I've ever used was the splash screen on XP
7 bit "bytes" are used in some systems, though.. i think
or was that rs-232?
isn't that usually because they reserve/ignore the highest or lowest?
7 bits somewhere.. i can't recall
01:09
well, ASCII is 7 bit
jQuery 4.0 will be written in jQuery. jQueryception.
just 10 more cryptosleep caskets and bye bye :D
@towc yea.. that might be all I am thinking of
damn, so base 7 actually has a pretty useful meaning
I wonder if I can find something with base 17
!!>100..toString( 7 );
01:10
@towc I wouldn't go that far
@jAndy "202"
@KendallFrey well, it's not completely pointless
yea, 7 bit bytes are no the same as 'base 7'
Story of my life
it's not completely pointless
It only becomes properly useful once you have bytes in groups of 7
01:11
if you're codegolfing ascii storage UI for some reason, you'd use base 7
which is a fairly far-fetched scenario
I don't know where that came from
but it makes intuitive sense
you know what, I'm tired
I'm a tired alleged adult
In the U.S. you wouldn't even be a full adult till you're 21
18 here is like a demo for adulthood
I was recently using $http(api,{responseType = "arraybuffer"}).then(res=>pipe into blob whatever) but I noticed that half the data was corrupt, or at least I think half of it is corrupt, the file is 6mb of logs. Would using xhr be more stable and better suited for this task than angulars $http?
there you have it, angular sucks ass, it's so corrupted it even corrupts xhr data
having that said... I highly doubt that this is angulars fault
I wouldn't know how corrupt ass-suckers are, but probably not much
wat?
01:17
I would think someone who sucks ass would be a pretty straight forward person.
like you I agree angular sucks, and I am highly suspicious of its abstractions
you should be
I have never used angular but I feel mostly safe saying that $http didn't corrupt your data.
There is another possibility, maybe half the logs are already corrupt. If the file was corrupted in the transport layer I would not have been able to unzip it correct? it's a tar file.
a tarball or a compressed tarball?
01:24
angular might have unzipped it, corrupted half the contents, rezipped and there we go...
i unzip it once to get the text
These words do not match. I get the general idea that you send a file and 'unpack' in in some way, but you don't unzip tarballs; they aren't compressed at all. Maybe you mean .tar.gz, maybe zip. It's hard to know.
i mean tar.gz sorry, could have been more clear with that
it's possible that there is a bug somewhere dealing with large requests.. but I still think the file is more likely corrupted somewhere else.
01:28
just my gut feeling
Speaking of faith+1 @ssube
you have books? NEEEERRRD
Lol there’s a lot of Ann Rice in there
It might just be that, they say ajax is not meant for file downloads, the file might just be too big. but http is supposedly transfer data reliable
01:47
holy hell this guy's tough
he's gone on two yayo binges without getting addicted
AGAIN ALREADY
he says he's not addicted
fuck
@SterlingArcher nnnnice
02:06
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@Bama Welcome to the JavaScript chat! Please review the room rules. Please don't ask if you can ask or if anyone's around; just ask your question, and if anyone's free and interested they'll help.
I am beyond disappointed that your first message wasn't "Roll Tide."
You're right, It should have been. Not sure if I can lose rep points here though haha, kinda suffering PTSD from all this stackoverflowing
console.log("Roll tide Roll!"); var bama = 1;
Does nodejs offer a way to I hook into a former spawned process?
looking at our gulpfile in es5 compared to the code I write in es6
bleh, so many functions everywhere
02:18
poor guy, with a peg leg and a bad back, the withdrawal knocked him right out
they're having a party without him
02:36
finished the research tree
@jAndy yes there is

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