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15:00
@bitten maybe "some people" should finally realize that we have no right to slaughter 60 billion beings each year just for the sake of "fake taste".
@KendallFrey a lot of humans are already hairy. they would be the alphas in the new generation and therefore breed more
@GNi33 Yeah, although IIRC most methane from cattle is burps
a few generations is all you'd need
@rlemon I don't think that would happen without eugenics
okay, I wasn't 100% if that was a joke or not
15:00
@jAndy The only rights that exist for anything are rights that individuals can establish and defend.
Yesterday I went to workout, I enjoy instructor led workouts, anyway it was all females (attractive) and just me, one dude. One exercise she kept saying do it like you're ripping your shirt off, "Rip your shirt off!"
I couldn't stop laughing for a few mins, was like yes please do!
just had to share that
there are moral standards and social contracts, like foremost, don't harm any other sentient being or don't do anything you would not like done to you @hilli_micha
and thank you for doing so
15:01
my gym is a healthy mix of old people and 'gym bros' and the few girls who do competitions and come into the gym to work on their poses.
it's kinda interesting.
yeah I just go to the classes they have
@jAndy I wouldn't mind someone eating my meat 😉 😉
but otherwise it looks like the same mix in the gym area
lots of gym bros, and attractive girls + some old people
@Loktar lmfao, did they look at you?
if you're in the changing room between 3-5 tho you're seeing old man balls.
15:02
I feel weird af being the only dude in the classes
@SterlingArcher lol I didn't yell that or anything, she was, but she looked at me laughing a few times
You should have ripped your shirt off and been like "sorry i thought that was literal"
@jAndy Morals are a beneficial societal construct to us as a species such as not killing each other, etc; however, killing animals for food benefits us and we are able to do it. Ergo, it is done.
prob didn't know why I was though
I would have totally hulked out just for the lols
LOL well I wanted them to, I liked my shirt
15:03
rip the shirt off, stomp around, growl a bit
actually i have done that
try really hard not to slip out a fart.
I remember one time when I was young this one kid was walking around the locker room with a giant boner. It was weird
@SterlingArcher And probably gotten kicked out like a midgetnapper
15:03
@Shmiddty LOL
@hilli_micha " benefits us " hmm..
@hilli_micha what kind of absurd and cruel species would that describe? Just killing others to the billions "because they can"? We should raise above this neanderthal mindset
@jAndy then should we go after exterminators next?
@KendallFrey dude. One time.
15:04
Like seriously not trying to be a dick, but we kill things all the time just because.
Animals we eat are just "bigger"
Well it's not "just because"
@jAndy It is not done 'just because we can'. As I stated, it is done for food. Your moral jumping of the shark doesn't convert anyone to your viewpoints, it just makes me hungry for a hamburger.
We kill pigs and cows because they're yummy
hunting for sport I'm 100% against, if you eat it, cool.
@KendallFrey actually in some cases it is, crushing an ant hill?
oh right, I meant insects on the just because part
15:04
Humans have been killing animals for food for a long time
@KendallFrey we kill boars because they fuck everything up and their meat isn't pleasant
We kill insects because they're bitey
some don't even bite, we just don't like them
there are a BUNCH of reasons we, as the smarter species, cull others.
I kill flies, but I take spiders outside
15:05
@hilli_micha i think it's actually done for business.. i mean the minority kill their own animals for food
@Loktar I don't get the argument really. Unintended killing of insects or whatever cannot justify the deliberately killing of billions of sentient beings. That is a dicks argument tho
yeah I mean most flies don't even bite, yet we setup torture devices they get their bodies stuck to
@Shmiddty that's a tricky claim too though
@jAndy I mean intentional
It's because and when we need it. Most mammals are friendly to other mammals until they're hungry. Trying to avoid unnecessary kills of other sentient creatures, probably the ones we feel most semblable to, is natural in my opinion. It's always a balance.
15:05
its about reducing suffering, as simple as that
like spraying a house for pests
or a business, whatever
@jAndy How do you know insects aren't sentient?
@bitten source?
Roaches are pretty smart
they maybe, but I don't kill them on purpose either
15:06
@jAndy What about my suffering of wanting bacon and not having any?
lol
@KendallFrey That is a true hell.
:P
I just hope one day we find a planet of Alien animals we can kill, it's ok because they are "aliens" right?? 😋
@Loktar haha
15:07
Fuck, now my stomach feel like a vacuum chamber
lol, all this talk of slaughter made kendall hungry.
Absolutely, can I get a planet of mutant, GMO-pumped cows/pigs? That wouldn't even be a planet, that'd be paradise.
@Loktar I mean, if we don't, they'll take all the good jobs and our women
@Loktar Let's not hope that one day Aliens find US and because they are way smarter than us, they decide to kill us for eating
that would be a better analogy
@jAndy gahh yeah that would suck
15:07
@jAndy If they do, then if we can't stop them, that's reality.
and the alien vs of you would be our savior
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@hilli_micha if they could, and were technologically advanced enough to get here, I don't think we'd have any idea.
I can say one thing man, you are definitely someone doing it right @jAndy
@Shmiddty well i don't have a source to debunk that specific claim.. but i think humans are foragers
15:08
@MohanSrinivas ask.. the c# room?
Most people I see who say they are vegan look frail and weak
I'd just assume that a species which has so much knowledge to travel the universe, wouldn't kill other beings for no reason
you sir do not.
@rlemon Yeah, I remember reading a few things theorizing that if aliens were ever to find us, they'd outclass us so bad that we'd never see it coming.
we could take this conversation into Determinism and suggest that we eat meat because we were always going to eat meat. The choice to eat meat is an illusion
15:09
Dammit, I sent mail with the mailchimp api
@jAndy well it's good business
@hilli_micha or it could be bacteria on an asteroid
@Loktar I won't be wiped out by no sissy bacteria, I'm a meat eating American damn it! I have vaccines!
haha
@Shmiddty Note that determinism and free will can both be false
15:10
The convo didn't deteriorate into something terrible
@Shmiddty i would argue that humans scavenged most meat that was already killed by some predator
we should step back and acknowledge that and be happy
But even if Aliens wouldn't kill us for eating... it never was fun in history to be the "one who is discovered".
@bitten Given how susceptible we are to bacteria in dying flesh, that seems unlikely.
Yeah good point @jAndy
15:11
@KendallFrey suggesting that cause and effect could be false on some level?
We can hope that they'd study us instead of eating us
Well except for the Chinese I guess?
@KendallFrey or breed with us
and mainly had a diet similar to the chimpanzee which is plants and insects, or any other apes which are all vegetarian
Looking to get probed? @KendallFrey
15:11
look at what white people did to my people
Or Japanese maybe, they had pretty good civilizations on their own
@rlemon wants that alien D
@Loktar they certainly didn't like being discovered by the Mongols
@rlemon There's 99.9999999%+ chance that's impossible
sure do
15:12
@GNi33 lol yea
@hilli_micha look into curing.. also organs go bad slower than flesh
@KendallFrey there's a 99.99999999999999999%+ chance that if they can get here we have no fucking clue about what technology they have
@Shmiddty I don't think cause and effect come into this, or at least I don't see cause and effect as a well-defined thing.
obviously aliens have already been here. Look at the Pyramids
@bitten Ah yes, dry aging, essentially, I see your point.
15:12
@rlemon But hopefully we could learn
don't cause and effect and Determinism go hand in hand?
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@KendallFrey hopefully, after a little coitus 😉
@Shmiddty What is "cause and effect", precisely?
also basic spices preserve meat..
15:13
wait.. what is that... an actually line about JAVASCRIPT in between
have to star that
i mean also they most likely rarely eat meat. a 1-2 day old carcass wasn't an every day find
@rlemon What makes you think aliens would have coitus?
They teach us something, we teach them something
We could teach them our screams as they eat us.
@jAndy thanks buddy but I would prefer some insight
15:14
i think meat was a very small part of early human's diets from looking at our body and our fellow apes and all that stuff
Mostly the former
@KendallFrey Particle / Energy wave A interacts with Particle / Energy wave B, and some effect results from the interaction
@Shmiddty That's basically just what time is
@KendallFrey hopefully we are intelligent enough not to be treated as random pollution
So cause and effect is just the passage of time?
15:15
sure
@KamilSolecki But we are random, and we are pollution.
@KamilSolecki remember, they'll get our TV signals first. We're doomed
humans are the worst invasive species the world has ever seen
There is no hope for Humanity
who knows
we may be lucky and be the first
15:16
eh there is definitely hope, we just need to get to another planet
and that too ^^
hehe
to fuck that one up too?
But it would really be interesting to see an superior species judge about humans.. if they get here and see us how we treat "lesser lifeforms" (in most humans mind) by killing them more or less just for fun to the billions
@Shmiddty The fact that time exists doesn't imply determinism. Actually the question of determinism only applies in time.
Take the smart people to another planet and leave the normies here?
15:16
If RTS games have taught me anything you mine all the resources and move on to get more otherwise you can't build your war machines.
but yeah idc about random rocks in the sky
if we have the means to extract resources we should
why does it always have to be about war :(
otherwise it's like having billions in a bank account you will never use.
@rlemon hopefully aliens won't receive that history channel.
"just for fun" that's absurd. Most animal death isn't due to sport
@bitten because non war RTS games would be boring
15:17
@Loktar orly
@Loktar :p
first person pinata
I mean I can't think of one that doesn't involve conflict @KendallFrey I bet one exists and I'd try it! 😛
sounds quite fun
@Loktar RTS get into bed drunk without waking up your wife/girlfriend
15:18
You must construct additional Pylons
@KamilSolecki I'm so fucking bad at this
Starcraft remastered is out in like 2 weeks just fyi
@KamilSolecki if you fail, there will be war
@Loktar Factorio is real-time, and strategy, and works without conflict
And need I say more about it being fun
@KendallFrey until you get to the biters
15:19
@KendallFrey eh it does, but it still has conflict in it
@Loktar the Anno series comes to mind
and it's a bit more of a simulation than an RTS
> works without conflict
there is conflict in factorio, just not very hard conflict.
but it definitely has RTS elements
@GNi33 that's a city builder
15:19
I played without biters just fine
how did you get purple science?
you need to kill biters or have a mod
not really
bah
that's changing the game
15:19
well... not only
My current map is peaceful mode too
A K
A K
guys, i finally got an offer
@rlemon It's still real-time, and still strategy, and even more fun.
A K
A K
it took years
@GNi33 the older annos have war
15:20
but you're raping Mother Earth to build your pollution machines
it's just super basic, like 1707
!!s/changing/losing/
@jAndy that's losing the game (source)
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if you're a fan of an unforgiving RNG, try starship theory. it's FTL + rimworld.
last one I played was the one before the newest... it didn't have war iirc but it had espionage
but yeah I still wouldn't call it an RTS, it does have RTS elements
15:21
FTL is already an unforgiving RNG
yeah, it's a mix
@KendallFrey starship theory is worse :D
@KendallFrey screw FTLs rng
then fuck that
I haven't been able to make it past 30 minutes of play without save scumming
15:21
I don't think it's all RNG, I think some is I'm just going to eff you up NG.
it's very early access, updates almost daily.
I installed the infinite mod for FTL
so I'm hopeful it'll balance out
still can't get very far
15:22
I've beat it, can't remember if I beat it on hard though
!!phrasing
definitely the other difficulty though
FTL is fine until the end boss
I've beat the game as well
I think
15:22
I've fought the final ship like ten times, can't remember if I even killed him
you ever try convoy?
nope
That's another pretty fun game, similar to FTL but different enough to be good in it's own right
it's a song, and a movie, and now a game too?
really good ratings/reviews too
well some negatives at the top, but idk I still enjoyed it
FTL is definitely better though
15:24
that game looks addicting
ever play Dungeon of the Endless? It's not like FTL
@Shmiddty y eah I couldn't get into it
I just didn't like it for some reason idk
I only ever play Factorio
recently I've been playing rimworld and a poker game
I've been mostly playing an online CCG lately
15:25
@rlemon hah that looks interesting
I've been playing my ps vita lately
bought a new one as well.. so now i have 2 yay..
@Loktar like worms but with better physics
can't really go wrong.
Worms Armageddon was my jam
Grand Kingdom is fucking awesome. (PS4 /PSVita strategy game)
Worms 2 was my jam, that's the one I played the most by far
the box is fucking amazing too
I want someone to make another rimworld, but with the art style of Banished.
I want to get back into TF2
15:26
those two games mixed would be bad ass
Worms 2 had a more exploitable ninja rope
the euro one is boring, that;'s the US one
@Shmiddty yeah it did, I was a master haha
same
could defy gravity and do the craziest shit
store.steampowered.com/app/242920/Banished if you like rimworld, check out banished @everyone
15:27
shoot straight down, move straight up, go from there
@rlemon eh I couldn't get into that one too much
I mean it's decent, but there is like no end game
I have 100 hours on banished.
@Loktar yea that's why I'd like a bit more rimworld event type triggers.
@Loktar Have you ever heard of Kerbal Space Program? :P
> Then I figured out what to do first and what to do later, and my city trhived, and...that's it. No additional gameplay emerges. Every building and construction is unlocked from the start. Houses have exactly two levels of development- wood and stone. Every building has exactly one state, no growth whatsoever.
but the art style of banished I like way better than rimworld.
15:28
^ that dudes review nails it for me
oh yeah the art is great, it was all done by one dev as well
Whenever I played worms as a kid, I would role play bases. One team would build a base, other would attack it
there are mods. dunno when you played it
the mods make the game last a bit longer.
I was following it for a while before it was released, I bought it day one
the dev is incredibly smart
but yea I agree. once you build your colony it's done.
@KendallFrey I need to play that more/again 😋
@rlemon yeah I mean it's a good game, just Rimworld has SO MUCH more to it
15:29
@rlemon is that one any good?
store.steampowered.com/app/403190/Planetbase if you can get this on a sale, it's also pretty fun. not worth the price now, but totally worth $5 (again, no real endgame)
even though personally I don't love rimworld, but I can recognize that for sure
yea rimworld is way deeper than either I've mentioned. but sometimes you don't want such an involved game.
yea
planetbase is pretty slow with a few events that make you action.
15:30
I never got planet base, I didn't know it was out of EA either
Infinifactory is fun
can anyone that uses sublime help me
GREAT for watching TV while playing
though I haven't beaten it yet
Yeah, rimworld is like programming in VB, but actually enjoyable.
15:30
Dis my steam lib
I got sublime3 on OSX. I can't view the top menu bar for the life of me
@Shmiddty I only saw "boring puzzle game" from that
*shrug* I like puzzle games
@SterlingArcher Dis your steam lib? K? "Ooo, look at me, I bought TF Classic on sale so I can tell the scrubs on TF2 how cool I am for playing the original"
@SterlingArcher The... whole thing?
15:32
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anyone?
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c/p your text from here into google.
Wait I lied, it was on Mac sort
@Loktar You need to teach this guy how to Steam ^^
@hilli_micha pretty sure all that came in a package
15:33
Time Gentlemen, Please! ?
inb4 Loke posts 10000000 games.
1,753 hrs on record jesus lemon
you seen civ players?
Yeah idk how people have so much free time
those guys have like 10,000 hours logged
15:34
This is me: steamdb.info/calculator/76561197993020588/?cc=us <---- add me if you wanna. I'm also on the JS steam group.
@SterlingArcher That's over half of my entire time spent on steam
> $238
Current account value
> $3561
Current account value
@rlemon I saw that, just because it's been asked before doesn't mean that it's what I'm looking for
@edsheeran lol, what?
15:38
What ^
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Anyone familiar with C# MVC and Javascript? I have this Input (button) which is should upload something. <input type="file" onclick='@Url.Action("HandleFileUpload")'>
@edsheeran that means it's either not your problem or you titled your problem wrong.
But when I click it, i am getting this error: Uncaught SyntaxError: Invalid regular expression flags
@KamilSolecki nahh, it's the same problem, just not what he's looking for
@SpedoDeLaRossa does MVC translate that action to actual js?
if so, can we see the output, and not the input
15:44
@rlemon Hi The output is that the File is uploaded into the database? Or to be more clearly: When I click onto it, the file browser opens, you select a file, click on ok and the "HandleFileUpload" should store it in the database.
not what I was looking for
@KendallFrey does MVC transform @Url.Action("HandleFileUpload") into something else? or does it just parse that on the client.
> Profile created 13 years ago
that kind of saddens me
@rlemon Not a fucking clue
well what good are you
Wait, you mean whether that code gets sent to the client?
15:46
yes
No, MVC is server-side
okay, @SpedoDeLaRossa show us what the client gets instead of <input type="file" onclick='@Url.Action("HandleFileUpload")'>
Okay, well thats it...
@GNi33 I only have 10 :/
<input type="file" onclick='/Home/HandleFileUpload'>
Cant work ;)
So call a function and use AJAX should be the way.
@rlemon
15:49
onclick executes the string you pass it
so right now you're trying to execute a regexp literal that has invalid flags.
/home/ <- literal
/handlefileupload <- flags
@SterlingArcher On league alone I have over 2,500 :D
I have far too many hours on League..
!!afk lunchin
All for that sweet Silver III I'm rocking, dank.
15:52
@Feeds Fun fact: There will be scientific planes flying in the eclipse shadow studying it.
@hilli_micha if you care anything about improving, do watch your games.
Replays*
At this point, its a combination of recovering from previous seasons where I didn't care and time. The champs I care about I've got 70% win rates on now. I'm climbing consistently*, just slowly.
^^ this guy games
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15:58
Silver is the worst. There is so much chaos going on, that coordinating people is almost impossible
Gold is much better to carry in
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