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2:00 PM
 
Now we're cooking
...meth
 
@ChristianJuth In Chrome it just says the apostrophe is an illegal character.
 
I'm working on a project whose name shortens to "meth"
so I find a lot of meth files in the codebase
which is nice
 
Florida is giving out web contracts to EU now?
 
2:02 PM
@Hypersapien I pasted your code into the chrome console and it works. Saves it as a string
 
In my college software engineering III class, the book always shortened method names to "meth" and I always laughed bc meth
 
Into the javascript console
 
@SterlingArcher Lol, I have a nice slow cooker. But thanks.
 
@Trasiva a crock pot or a pressure cooker?
 
@SterlingArcher OP "but he uses jQuery, adding another library isn't bad"
 
2:03 PM
This one is a pressure cooker that doubles as a stove top
 
Oh, wait. That's fucking IE
 
Speaking of meth, look what my mom sent me home with
Spoiler alert: it's not actually meth
 
diced onions?
 
It's magnesium actually
It's super healthy to rub on your skin
 
Right. It works find in Chrome.
 
2:04 PM
flagger is literally the worst.
 
read the context flaggers, it's not meth
 
doesn't matter, flagger is already the worst
 
@Hypersapien does that answer your question?
 
even if it was meth, meth is not offensive.....is it?
perhaps the fact that it's not blue
 
I need the list...
 
2:05 PM
@SterlingArcher for consumption? I take magnesium pills. never seen it in rock form
 
@AndrasDeak lol "wow that's some low quality meth fam"
@rlemon so you make it into an oil for your skin
 
@SterlingArcher hints of egg and cinnamon?
 
@AndrasDeak I think your getting too much of your info on drugs from breaking bad
 
@SterlingArcher Crock pot. I'd never fit the meals I put in a crock pot into a pressure cooker, lol. Also, that just seems so over the top for someone like me.
 
My mom rubbed some on my back for my pinched nerve, and it actually is a slightly pain reliever
 
2:06 PM
magnesium can be as addicting as meth.. once you have that really horrible cramp somewhere
 
> It rubs the Mg on its skin
 
@jAndy wat
 
@SterlingArcher I take MSM for sore muscles and joints.
 
Love it :-)
(or maybe I am on my own)
 
2:07 PM
@SterlingArcher try MSM
 
I like function composition
 
@ChristianJuth I cannot confirm nor deny that claim
 
@SterlingArcher it just "insta cures" cramps... at least for me. I remember I had that cramp in my calve and I couldn't stand up
one shot of magnesium... miracle healing :P
 
magnesium for me is a miracle cure for "day after heavy lifting"
 
Did you mean addicting like literally or "it works so good you'll use it again next time"
 
2:08 PM
take one pill after the workout, and one before bed
next day I'm 100%
MSM is like if I pull something or something is inflamed.
 
My mom recommends Mg to everybody
 
no... of course not, I was joking about the great muscular help it can provide especially in such situations (cramps)
 
Ah ok!
 
A healthy dose of cocaine also helps against all kinds of pain
 
About a minute after she rubbed it on my back, i was all tingly and shit, and I could just feel my back loosen up
 
2:09 PM
Especially sadness :'(
 
:(
 
Given my history with painkillers, being able to alleviate pain without medicine is incredible
 
so a bag of fake meth gets flagged, advocating cocaine gets a star.
this room is outstanding
 
should also work as great pre-workout booster @OliverSalzburg
 
@rlemon People only care about the pictures
Like in a porno
 
2:10 PM
@rlemon didn't you know? cocaine > meth
 
I also have a picture of a guy who got a penis tattooed on his thigh and I want to post it but I'd be so banned lol
 
Why would you want to post that here ?
I'm sure it's off topic
 
for the lulz I guess
 
because it's hilarious
 
@SterlingArcher * scratches my hair * I'm skeptical about that
also, is that from the same dude that has his own tattooing set and drew a penis on his tight himself when he was drunk ?
 
2:13 PM
went up this yesterday to get to a client meeting
sometimes I really dig this country
 
Your client lives in Gran Turismo 3?
 
I don't even know where "up" is in that image
 
The left
 
hehe
 
what kind of client? Can't have possibly anything to do with the interwebz in that area.. :P
 
2:15 PM
@KarelG I actually did some research, most people have a magnesium deficiency in your body. Taking Mg pills is the easiest way to balance that, but rubbing it on your skin actually has an added benefit of reducing acne (or preventing), boosts cellular growth, and less chance you take too much and end up with diarrhea
Basically that's the only downside, you can take too much and there's a risk of pooping yourself
Otherwise, Mg is natural in the body, and it's good to have a great Mg balance
 
I just lick a chunk of magnesium.
 
lol
 
@jAndy I sell therapeutic guidance for people in remote locations on the side
 
the horse style.. I love it @Luggage
that really looks like remote
 
@GNi33 that looks beautiful
 
2:17 PM
it somewhat is. Switzerland and Italy aren't far, but it's a huge skiing area
 
 
hence the client meeting
 
@SterlingArcher funny story - in Ruby Falls they wanted to introduce some fish to the pools in the cave, but the fish kept dying. Then they finally bothered with a geologist who inspected the water and found incredibly high concentrations of magnesium, and also lots of poop - the fish were literally shitting themselves to death
 
That's how I want to go. That'll really stick it to whoever finds my body.
 
> it's good to have a great Mg balance
 
2:19 PM
@SterlingArcher it's a mountain pass street in the alps. They have a dam on 2000m above sea level there. Really nice landscape
 
Welcome to Tautologies 101
 
well worth the 9h+ drive back and forth :D
 
obvious pedant is obvious
 
obviously
 
So one thing I haven't found -- is the magnesium I have in my baggie the same magnesium that burns super hot?
 
2:20 PM
you could try it
 
for... science
 
@SterlingArcher yes
 
LMAO about that top comment
 
being that magnesium is an element
so you could ignite thermite with it
 
2:21 PM
They selling a jump-rope for 60 bucks... calling it "limited edition" :P guy wrote...
 
@SterlingArcher There's only one kind of magnesium. I think the stuff you have is a compound though
 
"60$ ? I will have to sell one of my limited edition internal organs first to buy it. I bought a jump rope from a local store for 4$ I will call it a limited edition and It shall do the job just fine"
 
I'm gonna take my bag and melt an engine block with it
 
it's a valid question. When people talk about potassium supplements they don't mean elemental potassium.
 
Again, I think you have a compound of magnesium, not pure
 
2:22 PM
unless they like exploding
 
@SterlingArcher if you have a balanced meals through the days, then you wouldn't have Mg shortages
frankly, Belgians eats too little vegetables/fruit
 
Does my fat ass look like I balance my meals
 
it got researched and while we should eat about 300g vegetables per day (excluding potatoes / pasta / ... ) but we only reach 145g per citizen. I was o.O because there are also vegetarians and vegans here
 
wait pasta is a vegetable?
that's my life set
 
I kill the stats with about 1,5 - 2kg of vegetables daily
I'm like... "it's okay people... eat your 150g or 50g of veggys each day... I'll save the stats no problem!"
 
2:25 PM
@KarelG well, considering vegans only ever eat cheese, that probably makes sense
 
@KendallFrey it got categorized as cereal and cereal / potatoes have their own segment in the food triangle
hence they excluded it
 
Wait, isn't cheese one of the things vegans don't eat?
 
it's the only thing they eat
 
^^
 
vegans doesn't eat cheese because it comes from cows
 
2:26 PM
Yeah because it's cheese is cruel to nipples
#freethenipple
am i doing social justice right
 
that, and cheez-its, obviously
 
@KarelG not all cheese
 
of course we don' eat cheese... dragging baby cows away from their mothers just to let humans dring their breastmilk... uhhh who can't say no to that
 
how can you get a cheese without milk ?
 
I wonder if human cheese would be any good
 
2:27 PM
oh ...
 
@KarelG how can you get milk without cows?
 
and of course... slaughtering the babies instantly if they happen to be "boys"
 
s/cheese/meat
 
k <_<
 
@jAndy I don't think that's how it works
 
2:27 PM
that is exactly how it works
at least for 98%
 
sadly, that is how it works in a lot of places, yes
 
I live in a dairy farming area. I've never heard of that being common.
 
cows bred for milk may not be the same as those bred for meat
 
@KendallFrey what do you think how we pull out enough milk for billions of people
 
hormones
 
2:28 PM
Usually if they want cows (females) they can use sexed semen
 
you can't allow the "actual" consumers (babies) to drink up the milk
 
Kendall is literally Pam
 
@jAndy Oh that part I know about
@SterlingArcher What?
 
I recommend: cowspiracy and 'what the health'
 
Pam grew up on a dairy farm
 
2:29 PM
@jAndy I was just referring to the slaughtering of bull calves
 
I don't think veal is as common as people think it is
 
20 hours ago, by Kendall Frey
If I want something to smell like shit, it's gonna be cow shit.
 
most bull calves are killed after birth
in instrustrial production
 
@jAndy Implying that few are killed before birth?
 
no implying that they only need very few to fertilize
 
2:31 PM
I know
 
@SterlingArcher It's practically on every italian restaurant menu here in Iowa because it's locally grown, lol.
 
The rest are indeed grown for meat
 
really?
I've never seen veal on a menu in VA
And I've been to some fancy ass restaurants
 
thats actually exactly the reason why vegetarians the greatest hypocrites of all time
 
@Trasiva Most Italian restaurants in Italy also serve veal
 
2:32 PM
@SterlingArcher ...it's Iowa.
 
updateField = (field: string) => ({ target: { value } }) => {
  this.setState({ [field]: value });
};
is this a bad idea?
 
@jAndy suuuure
 
to be used like <input onChange={this.updateField('name')} />
 
@KendallFrey classic af
 
2:33 PM
@KendallFrey a farm in roseville I pass on the regular uses human shit
omg the smell..
 
yep. I can forgive a meat-head for being completely ignorant about reality by just being dumb and informed, but a vegetarian to some extend has knowledge about that and he fails to see the cruelty in dairy industries, which exceeds the cruelty of slauhterhouses even
 
it's a 2km stretch I do not look forward too
 
human shit is a strange beast
some people's is god awful
 
it works for them, they've got the best crops around.
 
I guess I've gotten used to mine
 
2:35 PM
the smell is like the bathrooms at the end of a bluejays game
 
@jAndy I went on a school trip with my cousin to the slaughter house. Most the kids couldn't even eat a hotdog after.
 
most sane people couldn't I guess
 
Now you're just being a dick
 
I visited it all, slaughterhouses, dairy farms... its a battlefield
I really would recommend any vegetarian to listen to the cries of a mother and her baby when they drag it away right after birth.
 
Love is a battlefield - Pat Benatar
 
2:37 PM
So long as I get my 2% for my cereal im good
 
skim4lyfe
 
@rlemon why not just use water?
 
When do they ever send a newborn calf to the slaughterhouse? I've never heard of that.
 
dude..
 
@Shmiddty grew up on skim. anything else feels like I'm drinking heavy cream
 
2:38 PM
veal is sold by the hundreds of millions
 
@jAndy Yes. But veal doesn't necessarily come from newborn calves
 
Lamb is yummy
 
when i was little and my dad told me veal was calves, i didn't know what a calve was, so I thought it was human leg meat
6
 
ahem? excuse me, but unless they found a way to create baby cows in a star-trek holodeck, how do you think they get all those million tons of veal?
 
I haven't had Indian food in ages
 
2:40 PM
@Shmiddty gyros are dope af
 
> a calve
 
gyros isn't Indian
 
@SterlingArcher that's the most Jodan thing you've said all week
 
I was 5 lol
 
@jAndy By growing calves for meat
 
2:41 PM
reformed lamb < lamb
and I like shwarma better
 
reformed? did these lambs use to be felons?
 
yeah man
that's why they died
 
that's deep man
 
death row lamb
 
@KendallFrey yea.. baby cow=calve.
 
2:41 PM
they served the better purpose
 
@Shmiddty precursor to lamb of god
 
@jAndy calf !== newborn calf
 
nailed it
 
@KendallFrey yeah, they have to chain them to the ground so they don't move and fatten them up
 
@KendallFrey does it make a difference of killing a newborn a day or a week after birth?
 
2:42 PM
dammit im hooked on this song
 
@Shmiddty same with apple trees
think about it..
 
@jAndy it's more humane to kill them young, after all
 
@Shmiddty can you say the new hot diet of 2018!
 
Plumbus
 
@jAndy Do you know how old veal calves normally grow to?
 
2:43 PM
It's not just a week, more like 20 to 40 weeks
 
@Shmiddty I fail to see any correlation between "killing" and "humane"
 
@jAndy Also, I'm not saying it does make a difference
 
@jAndy less suffering if they die young
 
@KendallFrey mostly in between 0.5 and 2% of their natural lifetime they get slaughtered
 
2:44 PM
I have no problem saying there's a valid moral question here but a veal isn't a newborn calf
 
@Shmiddty Because "the cruelty in dairy industries ... exceeds the cruelty of slauhterhouses"
 
nonetheless newborns get dragged about from their mother because they are not meant to drink up your milk @DenysSéguret
 
@DenysSéguret I've been wanting to ask you this for like 5 years. Did you get to keep that monkey on your back?
 
if they get killed a day or 2 weeks after doesn't really make a difference
 
@SterlingArcher he's the monkey, he got to keep the human
 
2:45 PM
@SterlingArcher I had to slaughter it at 20 weeks unfortunately. After that it's much less tasty
 
oh
oh my god
 
@DenysSéguret your humour is dryer than your mustards
 
@jAndy You say that, but...
 
@jAndy It's not 2 weeks, but 20 or 35 weeks
 
2:46 PM
i can't even, that was too savage
 
@DenysSéguret so 20 weeks.. aahhh okkaay... then there isn't any problem of course... sorry, lol :P
 
Cmon jandy
 
@jAndy I'm correcting you. As I said already there is a moral question. But don't base the moral question on wrong facts
 
@MadaraUchiha that is stupidly accurate
 
2:48 PM
21 mins ago, by jAndy
and of course... slaughtering the babies instantly if they happen to be "boys"
 
soo what's going on with veal?
TL;DR?
 
This is just an exaggerated appeal to emotion
 
I went into a meeting to disclose a quick schema change, and that turned into a 2 hour meeting
 
@bitten bbq sauce and onions.. sorry I thought you asked what's going on the veal. carry on.
 
@rlemon ._.
 
2:49 PM
hello
 
you troll
 
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@bitten the suffering of calves is delicious
 
slightly afk, got some JIRA work to do
 
ahh
 
2:49 PM
tl;dr: Andy is in a crowd of unapologetic meat eaters
 
On the same subject did you see I made a game in which you can kill Shaun the sheep ? Or dragons but Shaun the sheep is easier. As is Minnie the mouse.
 
I'm a meat eater that feels bad about it, fyi
 
it just doesn't make a difference after all. First I don't exactly "trust" the official numbers dairy industries give out, but even if that 20 weeks is true, they got dragged away from their mothers right after birth and then they won't be on the green green flower lawn.
 
ahh okay
 
@jAndy they wouldn't be alive otherwise
whats better live and die young, or never live?
 
2:50 PM
@Loktar never live by a lot
 
@Loktar I can buy into that argument for non-factory farming situations
 
@Loktar never live. eggs are delicious.
 
@jAndy And? They also don't have to worry about being circled by coyotes and mauled to death in the circle of life. Give and take my dude.
 
SOME farm life can be decent.
 
@Loktar That's not as simple as you make it out to be
 
2:50 PM
It'd be great if I never lived
 
and then again, look at what happens to baby chickens if they are "boys". They got shredded right after births (literally)
 
@rlemon true.
 
so... the moral standards in that industry isn't exactly high
 
@KendallFrey no it's this simple, people eat meat, and companies need a way to produce that meat at high levels
 
for a lot of people the issue is that people eat this much meat though
 
2:52 PM
ehh tricky subject
 
@Loktar That's a different subject you numpty
 
Obviously, they should be making synthetic meat product; like KFC.
 
@jAndy morals are very personal, I understand that to you, it's morally horrid, but it's too apples to oranges to compare and expect others to have the exact same IMO
 
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2:52 PM
i'm a vegan but i don't think people should stop eating meat because of moral reasons
kinda like the last thing on the list imo
 
Yeah like people who don't eat meat yet support abortion, it's really tricky morally.
/me throws a bomb and walks away
 
ouch
 
lol
that's easy though
 
@SterlingArcher Actually I do expect people to share morals, for the most part.
 
@Quinten This isn't about the meat industry. Get on topic
 
2:53 PM
I'm not a vegan, and I don't care if people are vegans. live your life, I'll live mine, and we'll meet up some day for a salad at pizza hut
 
^ aye
 
@Shmiddty Maybe synthetic meat will be a solution to a moral problem but do you realize it being a solution would mean the end of the cow specie ?
 
@rlemon *meat
 
If people want to be vegans that's cool with me
 
@bitten that is like the dumbest thing I've ever heard.
 
2:53 PM
but don't push your salad god on me in the process
 
@SterlingArcher ayyy lmao
 
@rlemon Unfortunately, for many individuals, that is not applicable, your consumption of meat fuels the regime they stand against. Ergo, you are an enemy.
 
@Shmiddty, for me i don't eat red meat for environmental and health reasons
 
@jAndy i'm saying it's easy to separate abortion and meat eating
 
@Loktar even if they want to lobby the meat industry. cool. that's not me.
attacking meat eaters is literally the stupidest thing you could do to stop the bad shit
 
2:54 PM
@bitten morals is the last on the list? So you're fine with the massacre of over 50 billion sentient beings each year?
without any real need
 
"sentinel" or "sentient" ?
 
but there is a need.. people want to eat it?
 
the ethical reasons are trickier. peter singer is probably the most persuasive on the veg side
 
@jAndy Absolutely. Steak is delicious.
 
@rlemon yeah, attacking won't solve anything. I do think that the over the top consumption levels we're at and the implications of those are something that people should be made aware of. At least it doesn't hurt to get people thinking about it
 
2:55 PM
It's crazy we live in a time where we can debate if we "should" eat meat or not, because we have an option not to
 
@bitten that is not a "need", that is just acquired
 
@hilli_micha and cheap this week. $8/kg on sale.
 
@GNi33 yeah but that could be same about any natural resource imo
the western world consumes a lot period
 
sure, and it should
 
@jAndy for me yeah.. i think there are better reasons to stop eating meat
 
2:55 PM
the east consumes a buttload of fish.
someone think of the fish.
 
@Loktar I really want to mention abortion to you at this point, but I probably shouldn't.
 
I can buy that some guy living in the antarctica needs to eat meat, he really "needs" to because he has no choice
 
@KendallFrey haha
 
but that is not our fate nor for like 3,6 billion humans on the planet
 
the "not my problem" approach still isn't ideal
 
2:56 PM
in a way to lower consumption levels?
 
vegans support killing plants. Plants are a form of life. It's inhumane. (because plants aren't Human)
 
I currently do think that raising the norms on calves production would be a very important first step
 
@GNi33 eh for meat I don't see it as a problem, so I truly do believe that
 
(and maybe in the future we should think about forbidding unnatural short lives like the ones of veals)
 
@Shmiddty and your great "argument" dies in the second you realize that in order you get to eat meat, 20 times more plants have to die to feed the animals
veganism has always been about reducing suffering
 
2:57 PM
@jAndy he's trelling
:3
well not just that
 
^
 
@Loktar especially growing cows at the industrial level we are is using up a shitload of resources, first and foremost water
 
some people just do it for health reasons, some people only do it for environmental reasons, and some people just don't like the idea of eating meat
 
I'm all for people making industries better, but again, shaming/attacking/insinuating motives of meat eaters is why people don't like vegans. pick your battles, and talk to the people who matter. telling a bunch of your peers they must be okay with killing millions of animals a year as they eat a burger make them not invite you to lunch anymore.
 
There's a lot of things humans dont "need"
 
2:58 PM
if everyone ate beans and nuts for their protein, what impact would that have on the environment?
 
and the greatest thing about wasting resources and water? They import water from areas where water is limited. Most industrial animals get feed with soy and that is mostly imported from south africa and south america
 
@Shmiddty more gas in the environnment probably
 
@SterlingArcher like the things we're typing on right now
 
@Shmiddty you should be getting protein from the source anyway
 
@Shmiddty methane production would be at an all-time high, and methane is a worse greenhouse gas than carbon dioxide
 
2:59 PM
@Loktar if we stopped wearing clothing I'm convinced we'd just get harrier in a few generations.
 
(Yes, I know livestock produce way more methane)
 
I'm all for dat fur suit
 
@KendallFrey are you talking about farts?
 
^ That is some truth, methane levels get too high at home when I eat chili. My wife threatens sanctions.
 
@rlemon A few generations? That seems absurdly quick
 

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