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10:00 PM
that one has been fixed, but phantom has since been discontinued entirely, hasn't it?
 
@danidee if you can create a reproducible version of the issue I will help you further
 
they definitely recommend switching to headless if you can
 
but I don't see how we can help you more from here
@ssube only a few months ago
I don't know if anyone is actively working on phantomjs
 
@ssube ssh -t deploy@123.123.123.123 "exec \$SHELL -l" #This is the actual command I use to ssh in, Ill look into piping the output better.
 
but plenty of people will be using it for a while longer
 
10:01 PM
that's like 4 towc favorite frameworks
 
I'll try to update my karma config to match what @towc posted
 
chrome headless is spanking new
 
@Mosho I think he retired
 
@danidee wut no no no
 
--after headless chrome
 
10:01 PM
that's the example of the default vue config, so people can see what you changed
 
Lol @towc why ?
 
people still heavily use angular 1
I see no reason why everyone would immediately abandon phantomjs and move to chrome headless
 
way more up to date JS runtime?
 
because the error must be somewhere from what you changed, so they don't have to check through what hasn't
 
most people don't even test, so it's not like everyone will run to headless
 
10:02 PM
@ssube on one end of the scale
 
but for anyone who does, the whole "being vaguely up to date" thing is nice
 
Switching to headless chrome might fix the issue....but deep down i really want to know why it's not working
 
on the other, replacing something that "works" with something new
 
it's not entirely new
 
you tell me what companies are more likely to decide
 
10:03 PM
being vaguely up to date should be the JS developer's motto
 
and most of the browser testing frameworks were designed to use many browsers
 
chrome headless is very new
months old
 
and karma already supports it
 
@Mosho Trying to setup a relatively trivial system
So I figured I'd fit in some learning of new stuff into it
 
@KamilSolecki I assume you were referring to this fun factoid: surnamedb.com/Surname/Niemiec
 
10:08 PM
Oh! My name is of Angle Saxon origins
 
{"message":"Surname not found"} thanks guys
 
hah! My surname is of JSON origin!
 
are you terrestrial?
 
@towc I didn't know you were related to Loktar
 
10:09 PM
this database seems incomplete
 
@ShrekOverflow @Loktar is like a father to me
 
Hands off, he's my adoptive father
 
... brother?
 
Flocktar
 
I'll skin you alive and feed you to my pet hamsters
 
10:11 PM
lol
 
yay :D
 
Your intestines will be indistinguishable from Hubba Bubba
 
tell me more! Go deeper!
 
meh
 
what a mood killer :/
 
10:12 PM
you're a minor, don't make it too weird
instead, play Heat Signature
 
everything's been weird since I was born, can't help it
 
oh, I've thought of getting it
 
tons of fun. Lemon and Loktar (I think) were talking about it, Kamil and I got it.
 
wait, so you give someone money so you have considerably less time to make money?
 
really? I asked loktar about it a few days ago, iirc he said it was on his wish list
 
10:13 PM
sure, but you can just get more time if you need it
 
that looks frikkin awesome
 
@Zirak they were just talking about it in general, we've been playing
 
he lied to me
 
they were just carriers
it's FTL and Hotline Miami combined
 
for some reason when you said "carriers" my mind completed "bisons"
 
10:15 PM
with Risk of Rain's equipment
 
so an image popped to my head of a bison with pigeon wings just flying around
 
and a little bit of Space Aliens and Zombies
 
it was funny
now it's not
I reckon you recommend it then
 
Why do Asians have to have holidays while I'm waiting for me keycaps
 
:D
 
10:19 PM
what game is that?
 
Wait, there is flying guards?
 
6 mins ago, by ssube
instead, play Heat Signature
@KamilSolecki not by choice
I lured them into that room and blew up the airlock
 
Aaaaa ok for a moment I thought those were guard ships :P
Nicely done then ^^
 
is that a game
 
!!s/a/the/
 
10:20 PM
 
@jAndy is ththet a game (source)
2
 
@KamilSolecki those ships are super vulnerable
 
ah gnah
 
fail
 
big time
 
10:24 PM
 
no
 
not in the last 3 years at least
 
it's probably how I discovered SO chats
 
they don't put the chat rooms near the front
 
we're the sewer of main
very few venture this far
and if they do, it's by mistake, or because they want the forbidden fruit
 
10:27 PM
@jAndy lol
 
I can't remember the last time I went through the chat room listing page. I've got the url for this room memorized
 
I asked for directions to the JS people
sp I can lurk and learn
 
we are The JS People
 
yes :)
 
s/js/jquery/
 
10:28 PM
we are the JS crew
 
well, honest first advice is to not give advice if you don't know what you're talking about
I should listen to my advice too, but I can't take myself seriously, I don't know what I'm talking about
 
lol where's the fun in that?
 
I think Im smart about a lot of things and my whole shtick is being right ;)
 
I bet you're special too?
 
s/shitck/stick/
 
10:30 PM
The missing "find" guy is back :-)
 
Interesting debugging story from Skeet: codeblog.jonskeet.uk/2017/10/08/…
 
@towc and @Mosho find is available with ChromeHeadless
 
@Webster second piece of advise: you need to stay as fucking away as possible from doing this kind of things: reddit.com/r/iamverysmart
 
Thanks for the help
 
oh
wait
so if you were trying to do that from within phantomjs that would explain it
 
10:31 PM
I was kidding but I do like to teach and share
 
yeah should have thought of that
doesn't matter what node you are using
 
yeah that makes sense
 
I thought phantom was newer than that
but I guess not
 
well
it depends on the phantom version he is using
which I don't think we asked
 
nope
once I found the karma/headless thing, phantom was just a problem imo
 
10:33 PM
for all we know find might not be supported in any version
yeah, if I'm doing anything new that needs a headless browser it's chrome for sure
 
there were two major releases of Phantom that people use, since QtWebkit only got a few updates
 
but we use phantom for pdf generation and it works well and I'm not going to replace it until it doesn't
 
pdfs are garbage anyway, they deserve each other :P
 
Now i have a bigger issue Lol
Not JavaScript related though
My upgrade of NodeJS made me upgrade openSSL
 
i think I have been paying for an EBS volume in tokyo for a few years I created there by accident.
I like PDFs.
 
10:35 PM
They're the devil spawn
 
PDF Unite!
 
it's not even markup
 
Adobe sucks at making file formats
 
it's just a mess
 
pdfs are my bread and butter
 
10:35 PM
They just suuuuuck
 
and somehow that has broken my KDE Linux desktop (Depends on the old openssl that i upgraded)
 
they also suck at documenting those formats
 
swf is pretty ok though, maybe because they didn't create it
 
well, I like that they are a print format that everyone can read. I am not speaking for the implementation.
 
A K
need help with webpack 3
 
10:35 PM
tough luck
 
A K
i'm importing a library but it's not being used, and my file size is still increasing
 
that'll happen
 
the more adobe sucks with their file formats the more genius they are at marketing
 
don't import things you don't use
 
^
 
A K
10:36 PM
which means my webpack 3 is not eliminating dead code
wouldn't webpack be able to tell?
 
well, it doesn't prove all that
 
A K
that the code isn't being used so it ignores it?
 
even if your webpack is set to eliminate dead code, it can only guess
 
A K
oh
so even the latest version of webpack can still only do so much
 
webpack and JS in general are nowhere near as good at that as older compiled languages
 
10:37 PM
@Mosho Do you know the video where Adobe CEO or whatever goes full retard when asked why cloud services offer less for more money?
 
A K
it just takes a guess
that's not very reliable in production..
 
X can't do what X can't do should be pretty obvious
 
objects are dynamic, so you can make some apparently dead code undead
 
@Zirak not sure
 
10:38 PM
@AK well, the point is that instead of making risky guesses, if it's unsure, it keeps things. That means it's very safe for production
 
@AK that's why you always test the file that's going to production
no "development build" and "production build" with QA using the long-form with sourcemaps
you test the binary artifact that will end up in prod to avoid that exact thing
 
and you build ahead of time and deploy a binary, not build on the server, because those tools (and npm) aren't always deterministic
 
I want this. Too 'spensive, though.
 
@Zirak I'm having a harder time understanding the kangaroo accent than the indian accent
 
10:39 PM
Really? His English is fine
 
@Zirak I can't stop staring at the perfect reflection of the light on the forehead
 
@Luggage man, I've never liked SUVs
 
@Zirak yeah ofc it's fine
just saying
 
that's not an suv, it's a wagon
 
They feel/drive too bulky for me
Oh lol I'm retarded
 
10:41 PM
that brown color only comes in the "cross country", which is a bit taller than the normal wagon, though
 
some of volvo's are pretty snappy
 
If I were to choose a car I couldn't afford but one I imagine working towards somehow
Probably a BMW 5 series
 
@Zirak I wouldn't say he went full retard
but he is definitely an android
 
@Mosho yeah I was a bit harsh. He purposefully avoided the question
In a very obvious way
 
if adobe provided good service, support and product there would be way less of a need for SE
 
10:46 PM
photoshop is a great product
tbh
 
Illustrator as well
 
which is part of why it's basically a monopoly
 
I love the product
Illustrator is my environment
there are "bugs/features" which have not been improved in years
 
Is illustrator what you would use for SVGs?
 
same as any other software
 
10:47 PM
when I search for "how do I use the pen tool" I should go to an adobe tutorial, not a community forum
Ilustrator makes .SVGs
 
speaking of illustrator, I want dis: astutegraphics.com/bundles/core
@Luggage yea
 
@Webster meh
easy to complain
but making software like that isn't easy
always room for improvement
but you can do a lot worse
 
@kamil
that looks awesome
 
If you havent, use the trial
Given you access to all features
14 days
 
@mosho they should provide the instruction needed to use their products
 
10:49 PM
All products
 
@Webster as in what instruction are you expecting? They have basic tooling tuts
 
first result
 
What are your thoughts on using Padding instead of width/height on a button code? <button id="playButton2" style="display:block; width: 266px; height: 266px; cursor: pointer;background-image: linear-gradient( to right,#000000 83px,#0059dd 83px, #0059dd 86px, #000000 86px, #000000 174px, #0059dd 174px, #0059dd 177px, #000000 177px ); border: 3px solid #0059dd;"
onclick="
 
Oh I'm pretty comfortable but I provide a lot of basic advice to askers in Graphic Design SE
 
10:51 PM
I was reading that it's better than using w/h.
 
Pen tool not the best example but masks, clipping, the pathfinder panel cause a lot of questions
 
if people looked for existing knowledge before asking in a SE site we wouldn't have SE
 
People will ask basic questions anyways, No matter how Well documented things are
Just go on SO and find jquery questions
 
@svgcoding that wouldnt be responsive
my point is adobe should provide easy to find instruction in all features of its products, and google should serve these instructions
 
@Webster It is here: jsfiddle.net/j1c2sLg1
 
10:54 PM
@Webster and my point is that they are doing a good job compared to other companies
 
@svgcoding when I minimize my browser that button slides off the screen. Not sure what your goal is but if you give fixed sizes like that it will be the same size on phone screens as on desktops
@mosho granted, they try, too many features to explain and instruct in
 
@Webster What should I che it to then?
@Webster change*
 
well you can use media queries to check screen size than display it big, medium or small
I've been using bootstrap which has a lot of responive classes
the responsiveness is a little complicated
lets go in a chat room
 
@Webster You have to take into account that its an advanced tool, and it allows for so many combinations that its hard to even gather them around. Base functions of the tools are documented, and there is SO MANY easily googleable tuts that I dont see the need
 
@Webster how do you do that?
 
10:59 PM
YOu guys are right, I just want immediate gratification and progress when I'm stuck on a tool, and when the only answer is on a community forum it seems there is a lack of official support in these matters
 
@Webster Aren't we in chat?
 
Hi! i have done a json web token, to login, but I don't know how can I send it from client.
 
i made a private room so i wouldnt clutter in here
check your notifications
 
I think one of the things that makes me take a really long time to fall asleep and makes me give up pretty often until I'm way too tired is that I'm scared of spending time with my own thoughts
it almost always ends up in me thinking about a wrong decision or remembering something where I didn't do as well as I could have
 
@Webster What if I'm embedding it on blogger on the sidebar, then what?
 
11:03 PM
and I start screaming internally again
this last try I had to stop trying to sleep when I reached one of the questions in the imperial interview, again :/
is this the kind of thing you need therapy to fix?
 
what question?
 
My headlight burned out mid turn. That was scary
 
document in document.ready refers to the page?
 
11:18 PM
it may
it can also be the iframe you're in, it may not be defined at all for workers or node, etc
 
how do i refer to the actual file name in a href in a div?
of a document
should I put the name in a id and getDocumentByID?
 
document.getElementById("aaa").href;
 
what does the aaa mean in this case?
there are 40 documents
not in a list or array or database
 
what do you pass to getElementById?
the id of the element you want to get
 
well they can all have the same id
 
11:23 PM
they shouldnt though
 
then that would get them all, or the [0] one, should the call load an array?
 
ids should be unique
 
so 40 unique IDs I can do
I'm trying to search the file names
I want to learn, and do it myself, and that seems to mean I should ask a little Y
to do my X
 
@Webster I asked for help with this if you're able to provide any.

Is this something you would be able to help with?

Changing the button to a different background onClick
https://stackoverflow.com/questions/46644841/changing-the-button-to-a-different-background-onclick
 
I don't think I can help with that SVG
I'm basic
it looks right, 3 solid states
I know that changes, and switching classes is something that JavaScript lends itself to nicely
so maybe some of the folks in here can help you with it
 
11:27 PM
@Webster The backgrounds won't change though.
 
:grabs popcorn:
 
@Webster Everything else works in it, except the backgrounds won't switch when you click on them.
 
I'm super noob but I'm looking for event listeners like onClick make it pause...
my dilemma is finishing this search function: jsfiddle.net/ewebster/q913rnzk/6
I have filtering and keyword search and sessionStorage working but not actual title search
I place this before you in humble hopeful help requesting
 
11:51 PM
For anyone who's interested....PhatomJS's issue with Array.prototype.find has been reported for more than a year now
The thread doesn't have a lot of activity....Seems a lot of people have moved on
 
Hi
anyone knows where I can find a pure JS alternative to the jQuery animate value (step)?
I wrote a little plugin, I replaced all jQuery with pure JS, now that part is the only remainig...
more precisely, this:
$({a:0, b:len, c:0}).animate({a:len - perc, b:perc, c:opt.text}, {
    step: function() {
        $('path').css('stroke-dasharray', this.a+' '+this.b);
        text_elem.innerHTML = parseInt(this.c)+ (opt.text == 0 ? 0 : 1);
    },
    duration: opt.animTime
});
 
all done :D
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