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5:00 PM
in govcon if you get audited for mislabled time management it's very very bad
 
and people worked hard
 
time has to be to the decimal precise here
 
I worked well over "full-time"
 
@Mosho mgmt still came from other companies
probably some that used a time card
 
naturally it was something like that
I didn't mean I didn't get why it was there
I just didn't see why I needed to do it
 
5:01 PM
how many startups get fucked by hiring a manager from classical enterprise who comes in and starts implementing all kinds of stupid processes?
 
and it turns out, I didn't :p
 
same way you don't want to hire that java developer who eats only fast food and talks about mailing lists, you probably don't want the managerial equivalent.
 
what the fuck
> Is there any scenario in which we should use promises over async-await?
 
it's... complicated
 
he should probably say "Promise API" rather than "promises"
> don’t transpile code unless you absolutely need to
lol gtfo
transpile all the things
 
5:04 PM
yeah, that needs specified
"don't transpile async/await/generators/expensive stuff," sure
 
you know.. because ES7 is so highly supported atm
 
are you being sarcastic
 
indeed
 
@SterlingArcher but it is
 
5:07 PM
wow ff 100% support
nice
 
btw you can use import in stable browsers right now, without a loader
 
es7 was an operator and a function anyways
 
well, first of all, es7 doesn't even exist
 
you don't exist
 
you don't exist
 
5:08 PM
you don't exist
 
poof
 
user2620028
@luggage i got it working, thank you so much
 
we're free
 
poof to the poof king!
 
lol
I'm imagining a cotton ball version of rayman sitting on the iron throne on a hill of other cotton balls
or maybe a hill of qtips
 
5:10 PM
s/cotton//g
 
those are like the skulls of cotton balls
 
user2620028
@luggage it was doing some horrid things to me earlier, and some of the decorators were working intermittently and others weren't. I just thought it was a horrid lib. But in the end babelrc config was confused as fuck.
 
here's an example of poof:
 
Met SomeKittens two days ago, was fun
Wish I could do a round and meet @Loktar - Arizona isn't really a part of my trip and it's wife-oriented-planning
 
my guitar is cleeaaaannn
liiick
 
5:12 PM
@BenjaminGruenbaum what about me
 
and now it ain't
 
shit
 
@SterlingArcher are you in NY?
 
Sorry :(
 
5:12 PM
a few days ago a friend and I went to wash his car. On the way back a random batch of sprinklers rained sadness upon us
 
i hope you get pregnant
 
it was funny
 
We should totally all coordinate some JS conference and all attend and get drunk and high coding together
 
why not both all of the above?
 
drunk and pregnant?
 
5:13 PM
classic
 
that's on you
 
I always forget where <s> and --- works in markdown
 
here it's ---, sometimes it's ~~~
 
A K
that would be pretty awesome
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum We tried to plan it in Canada this year. It didn't happen.
 
5:14 PM
one time in college i blacked out and when I woke up my connect four java program was finished
 
@SterlingArcher Oh, the post office finally admitted they lost my passport, lol.
 
Shocking!
It only took half a year
 
@Trasiva nobody really tried to plan that one. dugger was going to and then bailed.
 
@Trasiva I'd rather see someplace that's in the middle between Europe and US, like England or something
 
ireland would be fun
 
5:15 PM
@BenjaminGruenbaum Read that again. Slowly.
Oh wait
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum "or something" being Atlantis?
 
I'm the idiot here.
 
Canada isn't in the middle
 
England wouldn't be bad.
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum oohhh, how is he?
 
5:16 PM
@SterlingArcher how do you think I write message queuing observable driven multi node service discovery stuff in typescript. I sure as shit have to go back through my notes the next day.
 
@SterlingArcher We both know you wouldn't survive that trip.
 
why are you buzzwording at me ssube
@Trasiva I would, but it would hurt bad
y'all wouldn't survive me lol
wild me is back
 
to impress on you that nobody knows how it works, we all just get messed up and slap stuff together
 
@SterlingArcher They'd have to have a spare liver on standby for when the trip was over.
 
I got shitfaced at the capitals home opener and yelled at another beer guy
 
5:17 PM
is there a resource that defines standards/best practices for structuring items in a react/redux solution?
 
You're gonna get your beer belly back you keep that shit up.
 
eg. directories for reducers? actions? components? containers? pages?
 
there are always opinions, but best practices are elusive
 
A K
different companies have different standards for structuring react/redux projects
it varies
 
especially for something like redux
 
5:18 PM
that's fair
 
react, most of the practices are in the docs/method names
 
@Trasiva you need a globe?
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum I admitted I was dumb.
 
@Zirak IDK, there's a bunch of stuff like Ireland and Greenland
 
I read England as Europe. My reading comprehension is down today.
 
5:19 PM
England is part of Europe
 
@Zirak very well, still at Netflix, having fun, living in the bay area, just got a new Model S
 
is Ben around? should I duck?
 
@ssube Not for much longer. Mommy and Daddy are getting a divorce.
 
Anything interesting in Iceland :D?
 
if we do an overseas conference, Iceland would be the place to go
it's incredibly cheap to get there from here
 
5:21 PM
I'll host you all in a wooden cabin
And definitely not drug and sexually abuse anyone
Definitely
 
oh, you won't?
 
@Zirak aww :(
 
well, I'm out
 
@Zirak You can't abuse the willing, and @SterlingArcher is always willing.
 
winks furiously
 
5:21 PM
but what's winking
 
how's the penthouse and blow situation in iceland?
 
It's the opposite of your eyelids going "viola!"
 
Using D3.js; Generating many SVGs with 'click' events attached to each element.

CURrently using the d3.selectAll(svg).on('click', function(){}) method to attach events. But now figuring this is bad for performance when amount of SVGs generated climbs higher.

Wondering if anyone knew of best practices way people attach event to parent of SVG instead of on each SVG element individually.
 
Yeah, Iceland is about $500 from Tel Aviv, we can all go in April
We can all do 2018.jsconf.is although it will probably be very cold
 
I see ads for planes to iceland super cheap out of reagan national
like $200 round trip
 
5:25 PM
Ah wow that's cheap
 
the catch: no heat.
 
We can all do JSConf iceland together
 
we'll cuddle
I'll bring my guitar lube
it's the best thing you'll all feel waxy and smooth
 
lube is for rookies
 
oh they have a CFP
 
5:26 PM
downside is we won't be able to get even a little high and it looks very very cold
 
I'll apply
 
all i need is a pillow and a park bench
@BenjaminGruenbaum you disappoint me
Drugs are bad mmkay
except heroin. heroin is great
 
7.5 miles on the bike today, I reckon I can make it 10 next week
 
you've clearly been using heroin, Sterling
 
5:30 PM
I only exclusively mainline the purest 'roin into my ball veins
 
Whoah no drug talk, please refer to heroin as crushed mints
 
!!s/'roin/crushed mints/
 
@SterlingArcher I only exclusively mainline the purest crushed mints into my ball veins (source)
 
Better?
 
thin mints, line mints, party mints, crushed mints, etc?
 
5:31 PM
wow
 
interesting definition of better
 
user1596138
@BenFortune I bet you can do 20 rn
 
user1596138
If you wanted to
 
I'm physically unable to do 20
 
user1596138
You sure?
 
user1596138
5:35 PM
That really isn't that much exertion lol
 
It is with the uphill simulator
 
user1596138
Ohhh haha
 
user1596138
I thought you said you rode a bike 7.5 miles not you simulated :P
 
Excercise bike
 
it's a real bike, only the hills are simulated
 
user1596138
5:36 PM
My lil bro does 80 mile days. Is up to some 2,800 miles for the year
 
Does he weigh 270 and have a BMI of 32?
 
does it have hilariously bad graphics of a bicycle riding around a track, @BenFortune?
 
user1596138
The guy in your avatar doesn't look like he does lol
 
there are so many different bikes and they all have terrible animations
 
@Zirak are you submitting a CFP?
 
5:37 PM
it was my favorite part of going to the gym
 
@ssube Haha, it's no Black Mirror
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum yeah, writing it now
The talk I did some time back, and I may also propose one I'm working on right now
 
I'll submit one too then
 
cool, which one?
 
I'll go for one that's a really long shot (they'll love it or hate it)
 
5:38 PM
"redux is bad here's why?"
 
A K
There's so many things to consider when building a redux project
 
"Every Medium article"
 
"medium articles are bad, here's why"
but that's not interesting, just facts
@AK yeah, deciding what to use instead of redux is hard
 
A K
you have too many situations where you need specialized approach
Netflix for instance built redux observables because they had an issue with api cancellation
 
@towc
I think we're staying in Bratislava
not Vienna
 
A K
5:42 PM
You're going to be adding tons and tons of additional layers which makes maintenance a headache; keeping up with updates
 
@Zirak no, I only ever submit new talks
 
For a week
 
@Zirak "Multithreading in Node.js"
 
neat
 
@BadgerCat oh, great :)
 
5:43 PM
But you're going to be away, right?
 
What are you submitting?
 
Only for the week you're going :P
 
A K
Redux is pretty much the standard with many companies/startups in Bay Area. Almost all React devs know it here
 
I was just in the bay area, a lot of devs I spoke to hate redux
 
A K
But there's a lot of stubborn devs who gets pissed off easily if you point out something or questioned on something that they don't know
 
5:45 PM
Also, this is for a conference in about half a year, and n Ireland
 
@BenFortune eeek
 
@BadgerCat if you're not in vienna, we can most definitely do something before I leave :)
how long are you staying?
 
But when are you coming back?
 
24th
 
8 days, from the 18th to the 26th
 
5:46 PM
oh, plenty of time then!
why'd you pick bratislava in the end? Cheaper?
 
yeah, we're going the 26th to Vienna
 
A nickel!
 
Then back to Germany
 
I'll open my own hotel!
 
Then back to Mexico
 
5:47 PM
can you take me with you?
give me a new identity and stuff
be a copy jr
 
I've heard that it's possible to come from Mexico into the US and get a job
but that might just be a rumor
 
This is our adopted son, we call him Medium Rare Chicken
 
about that
 
user1596138
@ssube Yea you just wait at the hardware store. Someone will come by in a pickup truck and take you to work
 
 
5:49 PM
I think you just need a passport, no new identity needed
 
@SterlingArcher one day he will learn his true name, Salmonella: Destroyer of Basil
 
just put this in the oven. Potatoes and garlic. No saucy thing like a chicken. Should I add butter or something?
190C for ~1hr
that's my dinner
 
At least you won't die
 
@towc no aluminium foil in oven. please.
 
lol
 
5:50 PM
Are those entire gloves of garlic
oh those are onions
 
a few months ago I might have believed that
eighths of onions, yup
 
@towc You should have broken the onions apart.
 
towc butter and salt
 
@Teomanshipahi That was a dumb comment. Foil is fine in the oven.
Yea, that needs some oil or butter.
 
I'm fine with adding butter
 
5:51 PM
the natural sugar from the onion and potato will do good things with butter and a bit of salt to soak up the water
 
also wait trasiva, I'll give you a pic of what I kind of want the end result to be
 
coconut oil is super good
 
salt is very important in cooking
 
Salt is huge in cooking
 
@Trasiva take it at your own risk, enjoy ;)
 
5:51 PM
I insisted on going without it for a long time, but you just can't
 
Spices in general
 
it fuels some very important reactions
 
salt is also huge in this chatroom
 
@Teomanshipahi foil is totally safe in the oven
 
@MadaraUchiha sent me this a few hours ago: imgur.com/gallery/kZRhF
 
5:52 PM
Black pepper, oregano, other assorted plants
 
it says so on the box
 
@Teomanshipahi Have you never cooked before?
 
trying to practice not screwing up the bottom bit
 
@Zirak you should see my spice rack
 
@Teomanshipahi I'm not sure what kind of backwoods logic you're using, but foil does nothing in the oven. Microwave is a different story. It's non-reactive just from pure heat.
 
5:52 PM
You guys are stupid. Foil is fine in the microwave, it's the oven that makes it combust
 
Which reminds me I still haven't eaten
 
jeez learn to kitchen
 
!!s/spice//
 
@ssube ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
 
@BenFortune @Zirak you should see my rack (source)
 
5:52 PM
oh god, those onions look super different :/
 
@SterlingArcher Hope you're joking
 
Submitted a threads CFP which is a nice way to roll the dice @Zirak
 
@MadaraUchiha I only joke about Hitler
 
@MadaraUchiha you should submit one too cfp.jsconf.is/events/jsconf-iceland-2018
 
5:53 PM
lmao no but really im joking
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum I'm writiiinggg iiittt
 
@towc They used red onions, white are fine
 
Trying to find a picture of me which isn't 90% yellow
 
@Trasiva so I should still cut them up further?
 
@towc No, they're fine at that size.
 
5:54 PM
I really love that crispy thing at the end. But I guess it doesn't work with this kind of onions
oh, great :)
so, butter
 
They'll still crisp if you put them under the broiler
 
wait that's a kid
 
@SterlingArcher love you too
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum Hmm, maybe my TypeScript inference talk? After a tiny bit of polishing?
 
I'd give something new, but you can try the TS one
 
5:55 PM
@towc Make sure after like half an hour that you move the veggies around so they don't burn on the bottom.
 
i.imgur.com/IjA7sKI.mp4 do you want heart attacks?
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that font though
 
US Military in a nutshell
 

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